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  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited March 2008

    Hi....I have a question....I just had my 3rd weekly treatment of taxol on monday.  I am having body pain.  Its not in one particular spot either....I hurt in my lower back, my ribs, legs, ect.  Is this normal?  I heard people say they had leg pain but thats all. 

    Oh and one more thing....my nails....wholey cow do they hurt!  Any suggestions. 

    Thanks so much,

    Teresa

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2008

    Hi Theresa,

    I think these symptoms are pretty normal for Taxol.  The all over body pain is your "bones" trying reproduce you new blood cells, that the chemo is killing off very fast right now. (tx 3 for me it started on Taxotere) I also think it is just plain stress of treatment.  Have you tried walking a little each day...it helped me.  I remember climbing the stairs at work and thinking I just climbed Mt Everest. My legs hurt so bad.

    Important Reminder!  Take your temperature regular.  If it goes up more than 101 and stays there couple of hours you could have a low grade infection, your body maybe trying to fight it off.  If I had body aches and temp doctor would give me antibiotics fast!

    Living in Hope,

    Flalady

  • snowyday
    snowyday Member Posts: 1,478
    edited March 2008

    I had alot of bone pain with Taxols found out later well after treatment to take vitamin D3 and Vit A supposed to help with the bone pain.  Also read that while on taxols always wear sunglasses as taxols are hard on the eyes. About the fingernails just found out about a week ago its a fungus, some women used listerine, I used alot of the hand cleaner with alcohol in it and my nails turned purple brown but the thumbs were the worst still are. So keep them clean and try the listerine.  As Flalady says watch your temp my last onc told me day four to seven were the worst.  Good luck and really hope things go a bit more smoothly for you.

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited March 2008

    Thanks for the advice.  I took a lortab last night and it helped with the aches.  The side effects are more tolerable than the A/C thats for sure. 

    Teresa

  • twink
    twink Member Posts: 1,574
    edited March 2008

    I haven't heard the 'nail fungus' thing before although many of us experience problems with nails while undergoing taxol or taxotere treatment.  My finger nails hurt and I lost a layer of skin around my toes.  After treatment was over, a few finger nails became discolored, rippled/ridged and I lost a couple of toenails.  Not an uncommon SE of a taxane.  Hand Foot syndrome is the name given to these problems I believe and in extreme cases skin cracks, bleeds and can be very painful. 

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited March 2008

    Twink,

    I had hand/foot syndrome with A/C.  My feet hurt so much to just walk, my hands hurt too.  They are now peeling.  My doctor didn't say anything about hand/foot syndrome with taxol in fact he said it should get better on taxol.  Of course he said the nail thing and neuropathy would probably happen.

    Teresa

  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Member Posts: 193
    edited March 2008

    what is hand foot syndrome?

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited March 2008

    Hand/foot syndrome is when chemo leaks out of broken capillaries in your hands and feet.  I can happen with several different chemos (do a search for the list).  Mine was because of Aidramycin, my onc said its not real common but does happen occasionally with this drug.  What would happen is I would have treatment on monday and usually 3 days later my heals, soles and areas around my foot on the bottom would be bright red and painful.  It would get better after a couple days.  Each treatment it got a little worse and by the fourth one my hands were bad too. 

    I had my last A/C on feb 25th and my feet are so much better now, aside from the peeling, which isn't painful or anything. 

    I really hope I am over the hand/foot thing because it was not fun at all.

    Teresa

  • twink
    twink Member Posts: 1,574
    edited March 2008

    My onc said it was not uncommon with Taxotere, so perhaps not all Taxanes (i.e. Taxol)?  In any case, I did fine with AC (other than the hair loss) but had the hand and foot problems with Taxotere.  As you point out Teresa, it happens with AC too.  My friend L also had problems with AC.

  • slonedeb
    slonedeb Member Posts: 562
    edited March 2008

    hi i to am on weekly taxol and also have a lot of bone and joint pain with a few other side effects i started taking one and half of my perocets at a time instead of one its helped some but not much i am usually out of it on days 3 4 and five only gives me 2 good days a week and that scks but ill hang in there to see if this chemo helps my liver mets and bone mets ill be praying for you and remember god loves you  love deb from ky

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    Oh G**, the hand/foot syndrome.  

    I couldn't walk without crying out in pain, I could hardly hold anything without wincing.  My fingers and fingernails HURT and were just bright red and hot.  I got really good at using my pinky fingers to do stuff because those hurt the least. 


    I was ordered NOT to do the dishes, especially with gloves on, because that amplified the condition.  That was pretty cool!  Cool

    I'll be 2 years out of chemo next month (2.5 years past dx.), and I'm sad to say that my toes still hurt like a mo-fo (goodness, excuse my language-I never talk like that, but that is really the best way to describe it!).  My fingers are ok.....all my nails are still disgusting-especially my thumbs and all the toes. 


    Gotta love that chemo.  

    Hope the pain is easing up.  Careful with it-I developed body pain from the first day of chemo, and took the maximum dose of vicodin from that day until this past January.  I still hurt, but just didn't want to have to depend on vicodin any longer.  Scans show now that my body is full of arthritis.  

    I still wonder if the chemo just set off what was already there?!?! 

    I digress......
    Love and prayers, Deb

  • Analemma
    Analemma Member Posts: 1,622
    edited March 2008

    After chemo in 2005  (a/c then taxol) I seemed to have one thing after another, related to joint and tendon issues.  During the next year I tore a knee cartilege (surgery), developed arthritis in my lower back, developed two trigger fingers that had to be released surgically, and got an awful case of tennis elbow that I had to have physical therapy on.  Oh, yes, and two separate ganglion cycsts, one of them had to be removed surgically.  You can't tell me that it was all coincidence!  Also, for the year afterward, I had leg pain when I lay down at night.  It just beat me up! 

    Funny thing was, while I was in chemo, I kept saying that it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  It just seemed to be the gift that kept on giving!

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited April 2008

    "Funny thing was, while I was in chemo, I kept saying that it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  It just seemed to be the gift that kept on giving!"

    BrendaF,

    I think you hit the nail on the head with this...it keeps giving... or should we say taking from "us" are hard earn quality of life?

    Flalady

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited April 2008

    It's been awhile since I've emailed.  Just had my 7th taxol w/avastin.  I think the more taxol that gets into the body the more tired I get. Had tx on Monday. Tuesday felt good.  The rest of the week has been a little rocky.  I am now getting some joint pain and my thumbnails are acting up when I get up in the morning.  As the day progresses my nails are better.  I guess I should just be happy that I actually can get up in the morning (this morning I was late!). Kids almost missed the bus.  I am hoping things get better as the treatments get fewer...I am hanging in there hoping for sunny days!

    CarolynCool

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited April 2008

    So glad to see you post again, Carolyn.  I've been wondering how you have been doing.  I just had my 4th taxol with avastin on monday.  My nails have been very sensitive since my last a/c treatment.  I don't know if you have had this problem but I have been having lots of bone/muscle pain.  Its driving me mad.  On the really bad days I must take 3 hot bathes to just get some relief.  I also am looking forward to some warm weather soon.

    Take care,

    Teresa

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited April 2008

    Carolyn and Teresa,

    Which Taxol are you taking? and how frequent are your shots?

    I have completed my 8th Paclitaxel (weekly) with Avastin (every 3 weeks) and was wondering if either of you have experienced a red rash  on your hands/arms (does not itch)?

    smiles

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2008

    Brena, I'm very done with my taxol (see above), but I very much remember having bright red hands and feet from hand and foot syndrome. 


    Does it hurt?  That may be the culprit. 
    Love and prayers, Deb

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited April 2008

    Deb,

    My feet have some white and raised toenails, think also infected. I am on antibiotics.

    The red rash on the top of both of my hands/wrist/arm feel like a sunburn and hot to the touch. I am rubbing chamomile tea on the rash several times a day and it is drying the rash, nothing else has worked. Rash started after my 4th Taxol and my feet problems 1.5 weeks ago.

    I am trying to determine if both SE are from the paclitaxel or avastin or combo of both.

    thanks for ur help

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited April 2008

    Brena,

    Oh yes I do have a rash on my hands, the tops of them.  It actually has gotten better the last week.  I got hand/foot syndrome with A/C and so far my feet are better since being on taxol (paclitaxel).  My doc also was curious about the rash, if it was being caused by the avastin because he had never seen it with the taxol or A/C, maybe its the combo that does it.  I don't know. 

    So are you doing 12 weekly taxols? 

    I find it so amazing that more and more people are taking this trial.  I hope this stuff (avastin) kicks butt.

    Teresa

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited April 2008

    Teresa,

    Thanks for your input, my onc also suspects that the combo of avastin/paclitaxel is causing the rash for the same reason as your onc. 

    I started a thread for our clinical trial E5103 in the "help me get through treatment" to find more woman in this trial. Hoping we can help each other with SE's and support.

    I will need to complete 12 pactax rounds weekly, missed last week due to feet (toenails infected) and red rash on both hands (pretty bad.) Doc said body needs a week off to recover!

    I have completed 8 pactax rounds, started the week after the trial opened so I am on the front end of this trial.

    Last round of Avastin/placebo scheduled for 04/18 and last pactax 05/02.

  • HeatherBLocklear
    HeatherBLocklear Member Posts: 1,370
    edited April 2008

    Hi all,

    I'm taking Taxotere and Avastin. My oncologist keeps asking if I've got a rash on my hands and feet yet (I don't, but am only halfway through the combo just mentioned so still have plenty of time to get that problem too Undecided). Apparently it's an expected SE of the taxol/Avastin regimen.

    And yes, there are a number of breast cancer clinical trials where Avastin is now being used, especially in triple negative cases. My BS ventured they're hoping Avastin will become at least partially the targeted therapy of choice for triple negatives in the future.

    I hope so too.

    Annie

  • AlaskaDeb
    AlaskaDeb Member Posts: 2,601
    edited April 2008

    I just wanted to pipe up here...I am on Taxol, Avastin Zometa.  The avastin was approved for BC in Feb of this year.  My doc siad it is the "new gold standard" for trip negative BC mets.

    Thank you to all the women who did the trials!!!

    Deb C

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited April 2008

    I can't wait to tell my onc about this....that others have had this rash too.  He called the people over the clinical trial and they weren't sure either but they said they would be noting it as a possible side effect. 

  • HeatherBLocklear
    HeatherBLocklear Member Posts: 1,370
    edited April 2008

    Hi Femme,

    I'm a bit surprised your oncologist didn't know that. As I say above, I am also part of a clinical trial, and they told me from the git-go to expect that SE. Isn't it fun when we can teach our physicians something? :-)

    Hugs,

    Annie

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited April 2008

    Annie,

    The papers I got from the trial itself showing the side effects didn't list it.  I just am relieved that I'm not the only one.  It's an ugly rash but heck its just temp.

     I have my 5 taxol tomorrow....7 more to go...yea!!!!

    Teresa

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited April 2008

    Annie,

    My understanding is that Taxotere is known to give a rash in any cocktail. Teresa and I are taking Paclitaxel which is not know to give a rash. This is where the thought that the combination of Avastin with Paclitaxel is causing the rash. We do not know if we are receiving Avastin as is a double blind study, we can just assume.

    Would be nice if we could hear from more woman participating in this trial to compare symptoms.

    What trial are you participating?

    thxks for your information

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited April 2008

    Teresa,

    Each week that goes by (completed my 8th) the rash gets worse, only applying Chamomile tea on the rash reduces the burn (mild) but continues to stay bright red.

    Missing my shot this past week definitely reduced the rash. The next shot will determine if this was only a temp relief.

    my unblinding is scheduled for May 2nd.

    keep in touch

    Wink

  • HeatherBLocklear
    HeatherBLocklear Member Posts: 1,370
    edited April 2008

    Hi Brena and Teresa,

    I'm in a trial called B-40 (the name is longer, but that's the abbreviated form used on the files). It has six arms, and I was randomized into arm B1 that receives four rounds of Taxotere and Avastin, then rounds of A/C and Avastin. Then surgery and radiation, followed by yet more Avastin for a total of 13 months in all. Skin rash can indeed be associated with Avastin; please see the abstract for an article on that subject below:

    Abstract:
    Bevacizumab (Avastin) in combination with intravenous 5-fluorouracil-based chemotherapy as first-line as well as second-line treatment of metastatic colorectal cancer improves survival. Although skin rash (type unspecified) has been described in some patients following infusion of bevacizumab, it is not a common toxicity of bevacizumab, while acneiform rash occurs in more than 90% of patients who receive cetuximab (Erbitux), the severity of which appears to be predictive of response. We report a patient with colorectal cancer who developed a rash secondary to bevacizumab that correlated with response. A 40-year-old patient with stage IV colorectal cancer received FOLFOX-4 and bevacizumab, which he tolerated very well except for a skin rash related to bevacizumab. The rash cleared every time bevacizumab was eliminated from the chemotherapy regimen. When use of bevacizumab was resumed, similar rash reappeared. Therefore, we believe that this observation of the rash emergence was linked to bevacizumab administration. The most common toxicities associated with bevacizumab include hypertension, hemorrhage, gastrointestinal perforation, arterial thromboembolism, wound healing and proteinuria. Exfoliative dermatitis and a nonspecific rash have been reported with bevacizumab. This case report, we believe, is the first report of a possible correlation between a rash and a positive drug response associated with bevacizumab, and may initiate further investigation of similar observation.

    I just hope we all get through this OK; I'm not feeling very sanguine today for some reason.

    Hugs,

    Annie

  • HeatherBLocklear
    HeatherBLocklear Member Posts: 1,370
    edited April 2008

    Hi Brena and Teresa,

    I'm in a trial called B-40 (the name is longer, but that's the abbreviated form used on the files). It has six arms, and I was randomized into arm B1 that receives four rounds of Taxotere and Avastin, then rounds of A/C and Avastin. Then surgery and radiation, followed by yet more Avastin for a total of 13 months in all. Skin rash can indeed be associated with Avastin; please see the abstract for an article on that subject below:

    Abstract:
    Bevacizumab (Avastin) in combination with intravenous 5-fluorouracil-based chemotherapy as first-line as well as second-line treatment of metastatic colorectal cancer improves survival. Although skin rash (type unspecified) has been described in some patients following infusion of bevacizumab, it is not a common toxicity of bevacizumab, while acneiform rash occurs in more than 90% of patients who receive cetuximab (Erbitux), the severity of which appears to be predictive of response. We report a patient with colorectal cancer who developed a rash secondary to bevacizumab that correlated with response. A 40-year-old patient with stage IV colorectal cancer received FOLFOX-4 and bevacizumab, which he tolerated very well except for a skin rash related to bevacizumab. The rash cleared every time bevacizumab was eliminated from the chemotherapy regimen. When use of bevacizumab was resumed, similar rash reappeared. Therefore, we believe that this observation of the rash emergence was linked to bevacizumab administration. The most common toxicities associated with bevacizumab include hypertension, hemorrhage, gastrointestinal perforation, arterial thromboembolism, wound healing and proteinuria. Exfoliative dermatitis and a nonspecific rash have been reported with bevacizumab. This case report, we believe, is the first report of a possible correlation between a rash and a positive drug response associated with bevacizumab, and may initiate further investigation of similar observation.

    I just hope we all get through this OK; I'm not feeling very sanguine today for some reason.

    Hugs,

    Annie

  • AlaskaDeb
    AlaskaDeb Member Posts: 2,601
    edited April 2008

    Annie - thank you for posting this!  I have a BAD acne rash and I am on Avastin.  It is comforting to think that may be an indication that it is WORKING!!! 

    Hang in there

    Deb C

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