The Brand New Respectful Presidential Campaign Thread

I don't know how we can expect the candidates to stop taking jabs at each other if we can't do it ourselves.  It is more fun though to get  one in here and there.

Amy,

How is Hillary alienating blacks?  You make statements and don't have a for instance.  Yes, Hillary has the women's vote, and now I'm reading she has the men's vote too.  But not in the black community.  Yes, she would have been the anointed one had Obama not ran.  I don't get your point, Bill captured the black vote twice as I recall in his elections.

Nicki,

They need to give us more of the candidates talking about the issues.  I watched movies today because I'm tired of seeing and  hearing Wright, the I misspoke, and nothing much on McCain because he's not making any gaffes.  If he wants attention from the press, he'll have to go to China and kiss the Premier.  

The PA senator has a bone to pick with the Clinton's.  I don't know if that will hurt her chances there.  I'll have to watch the PA. polls to see if his endorsement means anything.

I turned the channel to ABC news about 10 mins ago, and there they were Obama and Wright side by side again.  Howard Dean said he asked both campaigns to stick to the issues.  Let's see how long that lasts.

Thank you Paulette!   I have ancestors here from before any of the whites, blacks, etc .....  I have lots of Native American ancestors.  I have some pre-Civil War ancestors but my family didn't own slaves nor were rich.  My great grandmother came from Ireland in the late 1800's, another great came from Canada after 1930. 

Not all of us owe something to them.  I am sorry that happened to them but I have not experienced preferential education, job security or wealth because me or my family stepped on anybody else's rights. 

Is there anyone asking Hillary to step aside that is not an Obama supporter???  Talk about chutzba!  This could just backfire on them in Pennsylvania.  No one wants to be disenfranchised.

I don't see where Obama can get the necessary delegates either and there is only 100+ separating the two of them----I wouldn't call that a mandate.

Chutzpah........

Here's the Leahy quote: 

"The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and six-term Vermont lawmaker said there is no way that Clinton is going to win enough pledged delegates to get the nomination. Leahy told Vermont Public Radio, in a show that aired Thursday, that Clinton ought to withdraw and should be backing Sen. Barack Obama. But Leahy said that's obviously a decision only Clinton can make"

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No, she can't win enough pledged delegates and neither can Obama.  Then they should both drop out, per Leahy's reasoning.

The primaries aren't over, have they lost their marbles?  It seems too easy to do this to a woman.  We women need to wake up a bit here and maybe become a little vocal:

http://leahy.senate.gov/contact.cfm

Well Im all for an old fashioned convention.  Remember when we sat on the edges of our seats waiting to see who our nominee would be?  It was fun watching the conventions then.

I heard on the news that Casey had a bone to pick with the Clintons because Bill wouldnt give the dad a speaking spot when he was nominated.  Politics as usual.

I personally dont think either should step down.  And may the best man/woman win.

Does anyone else feel that the media is the message?

Nickster

Amy,

I'm not a Hillary supporter and I strongly believe she should stay in the race. I think all voters should have an  opportunity to make a selection. If she pulls out just think how many people never get to make a choice.

Cherryl

I believe everyone should stay in the race until THEY want to get out..just like Huckabee.  Perhaps Hillary can't catch up with Obama, but like other's mentioned here he won't have enough delegates either.  What Leahy is afraid of is the fighting within the democratic party.

And yes, Nicki, I remember the old fashioned convention.  It was fun not knowing.

Shirley

Anne, I'm Irish and my grands never got a handout even tho they were discriminated against. They farmed, raised pigs, got food from the restaurants in SF and my dad and greatgrandfather took the slops to the pigs.... ate off the slop truck before getting it to the pigs.  They worked when they had chicken pox.  My other great grandmother was Irish who married a Scotsman, and everyone hated the Scotch where they were, so he changed his name. They took in Chinese workers to make ends meet and taught them English.  Never got food stamps, welfare, social assistance at schools or free education.

Tell me why I should want others to have handouts and more social programs or reparations?  Why should I OR MY DAUGHTER have to pay reparations?

Rocktobermom,

I agree with you that the earlier immigrants came her with no expectations of handouts. They were just happy to be here. Nowdays there are screams when they try to enforce citizenship as a requirement for welfare checks. You don't even have to be legally to get government handouts anymore. Heck if you are illegal you can go to college as an in-state resdident while an American citizen who lives in another state has to pay huge out-of-state tuition.

First the liberals scream that we need to be compassionate and give money to anyone :citizen or no citizen. Then they turn around and yell that there is not enough money to help African American communuty.

What irritates me the most they keep talking about government money like it wasn't our money but some special stash of secret money owned by the government. 

Amy,

"Nobody I know is talking about giving money to anyone-- citizen or no citizen. People are talking about helping the poor and underserved, whether white,black, green, purple or blue"

So how are planing to help without giving money exactly ? I would love to hear this plan.

And yes, Amy, someone on this thread spoke of the reparations that Germany paid to the victims of Holocaust and thought that the AA's should be paid out from our coffers as reparations for their slavery.