Will I get a layer of fat?

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mke Member Posts: 584
Will I get a layer of fat?

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  • mke
    mke Member Posts: 584
    edited March 2008

    I really haven't wanted fat before, but I'd like some now.  My chest skin is plastered down, there is no give to it, it's like my bald head was.  Will this be how it will be forever?

  • starzhere
    starzhere Member Posts: 162
    edited March 2008

    My chest was like that when I first had my mastectomy and then it loosened up and was normal.  I'm 5'0 and weigh 105 and my chest looks fine. This was 18 years, ago, so I really don't remember how long it took to look soft and normal, maybe 6 months.

    ~elaine~ 

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited March 2008

    mke,

    I've been wondering that same thing.  I didn't have all that much breast tissue to start with, but once they took it out, my skin and chest muscle seem to be directly attached to my ribs. I thought the stretching exercises might help loosen things up, but maybe at 7-1/2 wks it's still too early?

    otter 

  • nagem
    nagem Member Posts: 353
    edited March 2008

    I went to a physical therapist after my mastectomy to learn lymphedema prevention, and she also taught me scar massage, which helped loosen the skin, so it didn't feel so rigidly attached to my ribs. In the year or so since my surgery, I haven't really developed a layer of fat, but my flesh no longer seems glued to my ribs. You might want to schedule a couple sessions with a qualified PT?

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited March 2008

    I agree with nagem, physical therapy really helped loosen my skin so it doesn't feel attached to my ribs. But my ribs are prominent--not much fat there, especially on the side that was radiated three years earlier.

    I'm a year and a half out and, though my scars are fading nicely, I can't really say I've filled in much, if at all. A year ago, during a checkup with my BS, I asked her hopefully if my chest would fill in over time. She said no, she didn't think so.

    On the plus side, she is a renowned breast surgeon and very proud of her ability to remove as much breast tissue as humanly possible. So, I like to think about that when I look at my bony chest.

    Nagem, I'm wondering if this is an issue for you when you go form-free. I find that when I don't wear forms, I feel somewhat vulnerable with so little padding on my chest. When I want to feel form-free, I wear non-weighted forms, which give me some protection. 

  • nagem
    nagem Member Posts: 353
    edited March 2008

    Hi Barbara, Are you still in Miami? At first I felt very exposed since there was just skin over my ribs and, most alarmingly, over my aorta (I think that's what the pulse is between my ribs). But I've gotten used to it. I'm definitely a comfort seeker, though, so I will do almost anything to avoid clothing that binds. I do sometimes wear an undershirt, though primarily for warmth. And my radiated side is also a bit more concave than the prophylactic side. So true symmetry has eluded me.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited March 2008

    Erica/Barbara,

    Thanks for the forecast about the chest fat not returning.  Ordinarily, I would be thrilled; can we figure out a way to do that for my thighs and butt?  I'm not worried about the fat being gone; I just feel lucky that the shape of my chest on the mast side is flat instead of concave.

    It's funny, how small things can mean so much when you're in the middle of this BC journey.  Last Monday I was at my BC clinic for a recheck with my surgeon.  On the way home, I located a mastectomy/BC-specialty store that was on the list I was given by my surgeon's nurse last month.  All the clerks at this store are BC survivors.

    I had no appointment, and I didn't intend to get fitted or buy anything that day.  No matter, they said--one of the ladies spent over half an hour with me, showing me the tremendous variety of prosthesis options and mast bras, and talking to me about what might work for me. I could not believe how compassionate and funny and patient she was....for free.  And, to top it all off, when I told her I had been using a cut-off piece of pantyhose to fill out my regular bra when I did wear one, she smiled, went out of the room for a minute, and came back with a puffy (puffie?) -which she wrapped in tissue paper, put in a sack, and gave to me for free.

    A pouch of soft fabric stuffed with fiberfill.  I was so happy, you'd think she had given me a gold necklace or something. I didn't get anything at the hospital after my mast/SNB, so this was a seriously good find.

    When I got home, I took out about half the fiberfill and stuffed the puffy into the bra I had just bought at WalMart (the usual cup size, but 1 strap size too big to account for some mild armpit swelling).  It works perfectly, and it is exactly the same size and shape as my "normal" breast on the other side.  The puffy is small and soft (same "feel" as my breast), and it does not move inside the new bra. I wore the combination to a social event yesterday, and I looked absolutely symmetrical.

    So, Monday was a very good day. 

    otter 

  • nagem
    nagem Member Posts: 353
    edited March 2008

    A wonderful example of the power of the "kindness of strangers." There were times when my pharmacist, who never said a word about my situation, though he must have known from filling all the prescriptions, gave me looks of such infinite compassion I almost wept. Then there were the desk people at my gym who rushed to open doors. I could go on and on.

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited March 2008

    nagem,

    I am still in Miami, returning north in May. A friend up north who's naturally flat-chested told me she loves to wear Hanro camis under her tops. They're hideously expensive, but last for ages. It sounds similar to the idea you describe, of wearing undershirts. I would do that, I think, if I went form-free. I actually find that I prefer tight fitting tees over my breast forms--somehow they make me feel more secure and I feel confident the forms won't move around at all. They don't move in looser clothing, either, but I don't feel as secure in looser tops. So it's a paradox--the tight-fitting, more revealing tees make me less self-conscious about my appearance.

    otter,

    I've occasionally wondered about fat injections like some of the reconstructed ladies get to fill in dents in their recons. I'm very averse to anything invasive, so I doubt I'd go there, but if others tried it and it worked, I might be tempted.

    That's so great about the mastectomy shop you found. Where do you live? Every town needs a place like that! I, too, have found people to be very compassionate, but those women sound special. 

  • FrequentFlyer
    FrequentFlyer Member Posts: 15
    edited March 2008

    Otter, maybe you already have this information, but just in case you don't: Your "puffy" sounds very much like those textile prothesis used right after surgery.

    http://www.anita.com/us/en/0,1,105,1491__products-main.htm

    At the hospital they gave me this one http://www.anita.com/us/en/0,1,105,1491,39059__products-detail.htm right after surgery and am very happy with it. Never even wear the silicone one which I had been given at the same time. The textile one works just fine with all my pre-mast clothes/bra tops and I've even used it with my old bikini at the beach recently.

  • nagem
    nagem Member Posts: 353
    edited March 2008

    Barbara, I checked out the Hanro camis. But the only one I found on the website that was padded also had an underwire. Do you know of one without the wire?

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited March 2008

    nagem,

    I think my friend has one called the Hanro Touch Feeling Tank Camisole. I tried to give you a direct link, but it didn't work. So, go to Garnet Hill, click on Women's Fashion, then Intimates, then Camisoles, and you'll find it. It looks very comfy. I'm tempted, myself.

  • nagem
    nagem Member Posts: 353
    edited March 2008

    Hmm, they look comfortable but don't seem to be padded. On the other hand they're on sale ...

  • Isabella4
    Isabella4 Member Posts: 2,166
    edited April 2008

    mke.

    I am 5 years out from double mastectomy, no recon, and I haven't had any fat at all cover my 'chest', though the skin is quite soft, even where it was radiated, I don't think I will ever get used to looking down and seeing ribs !!

    Don't think I will ever get used to looking 8 months pregnant either!!

    If its a layer of fat you're after I will willingly donate a bucketful. Then maybe my stomach will look like it did 5 years ago.

    Isabella.

  • Beatrice
    Beatrice Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2008

    Is there anyone out there that says no way, too bad, im not wearing false anything or do reconstruction. Ive had enough surgery and i am what I am. Everyone tells me to stuff my shirt, oh doesnt it look to flat, Too obvious. I had bilat mast, cancer in both breasts plus pagets disease of the nipple. Yes I sure do miss my breasts, but why do I have to go thru more pain to look "normal". Mad, angry & frustrated

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited May 2008

    Beatrice,

    Many women who visit this forum go flat and are very happy that way. I had a bilateral mastectomy and do wear breast forms, but small, lightweight ones. Women who wear nothing say it's very liberating. I admire them, but so far am too self-conscious to do without.

    You might check my website, breastfree.org. I have a section called Going Form-Free, which is about women who say no to reconstruction and no to breast forms (prostheses). Also, check out the Photographs section. I just added a photo set which documents the "mastectomy journey" of a woman from mastectomy through going flat. There are also photos of women in clothing without breast forms, to show how it looks.  

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited May 2008

    Beatrice, if I'd had a bilateral mast, I'd be going flat (prosthesis-less) almost all the time.  Maybe all the time.  My breasts were so small before surgery that I doubt anyone would notice the difference.  I have never been interested in augmenting my small figure.  OK, maybe when I was 16 I hoped for better ...

    OTOH, I had a left mast with no recon.  And, I'm not quite flat enough on the right side to get away with the prosthesis-less look.  In fact, I used to go braless quite a bit in casual situations, before my surgery.  Now, I clearly look lopsided.  One very flat side, and one side with a mound.  Oh, well.

    I say, go for it!  You'll look like one of those fit, trim female athletes.

    otter 

  • Sassa
    Sassa Member Posts: 1,588
    edited May 2008

    Beatrice,

    I had bilateral mastectomies and no reconstruction.  I have small (A cup) size prostheses to wear when I want some curves but many times I go flat. 

    I live in Florida so I especially enjoy just wearing a tee shirt and no bra in the warmer months.

  • mke
    mke Member Posts: 584
    edited May 2008

    I had a bilateral mast. and said right from the start that there would be no reconstruction.  So far I haven't worn any "false anything"  but I have some dressier clothes that aren't going to fit well without some help, so I will get something.  But for casual wear, which is about 95% of my time, I'm going without breast forms.

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