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* Me vs. "Sperm Donor"*
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  • NaughtybyNature
    NaughtybyNature Member Posts: 1,448
    edited March 2008

    So today is a stress day... Jade's father is taking me to Court via a phone conference (b/c I am out of state and any time now... "I am chained to my chair"!) to lower the child support payments that he does not make!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  He stated in his Motion that MA living is cheaper than in NJ... Ha-ha-ha!!!  (Probably b/c he is banking on the BF's salary...).

    He owes me more than 34K and has been trying to get a job for the past 12 and 1/2 years... and let's not forget that he has never provided her w/ health insurance as the first Court Order mandated.

    As for him contacting her or seeing her... OMG, she is still waiting for his X-mas gift, sleepers... that never came in the mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't prove that he works "under the table"... I just want him out of our lives, plain and simple....

    As for the Court system in Union County, NJ... what a joke.  Jade's rights have been violated over and over again.  The law is w/ the Sperm Donor....

    The BF has been more a father to Jade in three years that we have been together than Sperm Donor ever was... EVER.

    How many of you in the same situation?

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2008

    I was in the same state you are regarding the 'sperm donor'. I left the 'sperm donor' when my son was 3 month old because of abuse that I ignored until then. After that, he would not work at a job long enough to start the garnishing of his wages or he worked for cash. I was getting very little in the way of child support, he paid enough to stay out of jail. When my son was 4 or 5 I had enough of going to court every 6 months and him saying that he had just started a job and not able to catch up the arrears, so my lawyer had me file for termination of parental rights before the next court apperance came up. In NC if they go 6 months without support and or contact I was able to file for the termination. You might want to check out that loophole. I did not hear anything else from him until the year my son turned 17 and he thought that my son needed to hear his side of the story (ha,ha,ha). When my son turned 10 I found the wonderful man I am married to now and they consider each other father/son no steps involved. Our son is now 22 and in the Navy.

    Good luck in your quest to get the 'sperm donor' out of your lives.

    Sheila

  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited March 2008

    Oh, just what you need, more stress.  I'm surprised, though, that NJ laws are in the SD's favor, though, as in MA and CT I know it is just the opposite. 

    I hope things work out for you and he just goes away.  Sounds pretty useless anyway.

    Tina

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    Sent you a pm!

    Courts in California say child support is based on ability to earn not what you are earning.  There was a man in court who was a dr or therapist for over 20 years, supported the family on that for over 20 years.  After the divorce, suddenly he was a bartender earning minimum wage and didn't want to have his child support based on his previous employment.  The judge told him he better get lots of tips because he was basing it on the man's ABILITY to earn that higher wage.  

    I am not saying that hard times don't befall people and that courts won't listen but when a man is trying EVADE support of his children, that's insulting to all involved. Nowadays, the economy is hard and maybe the judge can give some leniency but to totally give in to some of these men who just don't try is terrible.

    Luckily for me, I had a judge who was concerned about my dd not him.  

  • lv2cmp
    lv2cmp Member Posts: 1,363
    edited March 2008

    NBN I feel your pain.  Thinking of you today as you go through this.

    Amy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    NBN-you have gone and done it now!!!!!Laughing

    I have thought about this issue several times when Ive seen smaller threads involving child issues....I think the first thing the mods should do here is pin this thread!!!!!!! It is such a HUGE issue in life....

    When those smaller threads didnt take off and keep going I figured someone would make one like this to address how tough it is to deal with "dead beat parents".....and I for one am happy to see this thread started...

    I NEVER received a dime from my kids dad...I worked 3 jobs most the time they were growing up....I lived with a man that they consider their dad....as a matter of fact this past Nov. when my daughter got married he is the one who walked her down the isle...sperm donor was in the audience with a scowl on his face the entire time and left within minutes of the reception starting.....

    When he and I divorced he had a high paying job working for the railroad....after 2 yrs he quit that job and began working under the table to get out of paying support..he even did this when he re-married and had two kids with that woman.....

    I would certainly check into the laws of termination if I were you.....who knows maybe he would volunteer to do it as a way to get out of paying support.....but keep in mind that at some point in your daughters life she will ask questions about him and potentially want to know him.....I didnt terminate the donor, but might as well have....he lived 20 miles away from us the entire time the kids were growing up but had nothing, zippola to do with them....mind you his parents and several siblings live in the same town as me and the kids, they NEVER dumped the kids, but they were never able to get him to participate with them either...

    When the kids got old enough (teenage years) to start asking questions about him....I dialed his phone number and handed it to them.....he never did answer them when they asked why they werent good enough for him but his new family was!!!!!!

    Needless to say my kids are 29 and 27 and neither one of them view him as their dad....they also keep their children from him unless they are there.....

    and in the end.....who is the "B_tch".......Laughing

    But there is much satisfaction in my life as my kids are very well adjusted and are raising wonderful children themselves!!!!!!

    Hmmmmmm, think I have an issue with "DEAD BEAT SPERM"??????

    Sorry to rant like that, but things like this piss me off....all it does is hurt the child....

    I hope you are able to come to some agreement NBN, and get this over with for both you and your daughter....

    Jule

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2008

    If my lawyer had not mentioned the termination on grounds of abandonment I would not have known about that law. With the termination, my son (JB) would have been able to be legally adopted if and when I remarried without any repercussions from the 'sperm donor', though when I met my dh, my son was 10 and established with his name and he said we don't need a piece of paper to say that we are father/son. Several years later at a scouting function, my hubby was refered to as Mr. B. He calmly stated that I am Mr. A, JB is my step son. In a family portrait we had made in 2004 several people who don't know the story say that JB looks like his dad. I just laugh when they say that because I know the rest of the story.

    Sheila

  • NaughtybyNature
    NaughtybyNature Member Posts: 1,448
    edited March 2008

    Tina, Sheila and Rocktobermom: thanks for your comments/stories/support.... This is so stressful for me and really stupid on his side... I had to send the Court my financial data!!!!  I also sent them Jade's and mine's expenses for the month!!  Who is in default here, me or him?!?!

    Last night we had Spelling B competition, today the second half, Friday and Saturday basketball tournaments... and where has the Sperm Donor been?!?!  No where b/c he was not even there when we lived 10 minutes from each other!

    I want to terminate his rights, but w/ start by changing Jade's last name, it's hyphenated... I want her to have my name, after all I have been the father and the mother!

    I need to talk to Jade further about getting him really out of our lives in exchange for all the $ he owes me now and future wise... but I was told by a Family Judge that even if I do that, the child cannot be denied her own child support....

    I have done some digging, but man, is it stressful!  Lots of paper work.... I already have Full Custody since age 2/3, when SD skipped state and disappeared to Texas (we had split custody w/ residential rights belonging to me). 

    Okay, sorry... just had the phone conference and just hearing his voice was... I can't even explain.

    The Court Officer denied his petition, he objected, we were going later on before a Judge but than I got another call wherein he waived his objection.  My nerves are just on the floor.

    My next step, to calm myself down.  I have to get in touch w/ the attorney back in NJ who did my full custody and inquire about termination of parental rights w/ the incentive for him of not owing me anymore $, just get out of my life.  If he wants to be in touch w/ Jade, that I w/ leave it up to her... I doubt she w/ want that.

  • Emelee26
    Emelee26 Member Posts: 569
    edited March 2008

    I'm sorry Lilia :(

    Hugs

  • NaughtybyNature
    NaughtybyNature Member Posts: 1,448
    edited March 2008

    Jule, girls: I am still crying as when it comes to my Jade her SP is the cancer in me... and I can't do anything about it, to a certain degree.

    Jule, you are like so many mothers, my hero, as we have done and are still doing everything to provide the best for our children. 

    He wanted to decrease the arrears and child support TEMPORARILY... A$$H... a child is never temporary "thing"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Jade is 12 and 1/2 and a very well adjusted girl... but it still eats me alive that he does not want anything to do w/ her, he w/ not move earth the skies, mountains and oceans to get to her regardless of what...

    He makes now $10 per hour, working 30 hours... okay... I heard that MacDonald's is hiring and they have benefits!!!!!!!!!!!!  As a matter of fact, they have been hiring for years...

    Thanks for listening girls... this is such a touchy subject to many of us...

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2008

    The termination that I had done erased all the child support that he owed as well as any future monies. Things may have changes since my judgment (around 1990) regarding what happens during the termination. I never had to give my financial data, just that I was able to support him on my own. I told the judge that I had been doing that for the previous 5 yrs without much help from the 'sperm donor' (they don't even deserve the term father).

    I know where you are coming from just by hearing his voice and getting shook up. When he called in 2002 I was a nervous wreck and I had not heard from him in 10+ yrs. When I get upset, I start shaking so much that my teeth chatter and chin quivers. My current hubby was so understanding he just held me and kept telling me that it would be alright.

    My hubby though is on the opposite side of a similar equasion though he wanted to be a part of his daughter's life. His first wife and daughter live in GA, he paid the monthly child-support faithfully until she turned 18 and since we have been together (12 yrs) I have seen her exactly 5 times. His x-wife would not let their daughter have any contact with him while she was growing up. We were told that paying child support does not guarantee visitation. We would see her on his X's terms. We tried to schedule a visit with her when we went to FL for Christmas 8 yrs ago but his X would not allow us to even see her. 

    Sheila

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    Sorry to hear you are going through, Lilia. I've been where you are and know the stress you are dealing with, unfortunately...

    My son is now 14 and 1/2. His dad was $9K+ in arrears at one point because he supposedly lost his job and did not file for a downward modification. When he finally did file for the downward modification, he was ordered to pay $50 a month, the NYS minimum. But that hearing examiner retired and the new one we got gave him hell at the next hearing.

    My ex is now on disability, which my son gets part of each month, but the hearing examiner ordered my ex-hubby to pay in addition to that based on his earnings from disability. I almost fell over! Of course my ex complained - the $100 a month would just be too much for him. Meanwhile, he moved two counties away and had a house built with his gf, her daughter and their two sons (glad he's happy, just don't keep playing the "I don't have the money" card). He's seen my child four times in the year and a half since he moved because 40 miles is just too far to travel to spend quality time with his kid even once a month, I guess. My offer to discuss drop-off points before the move fell on deaf ears...

    We unfortunately have joint custody, and my biggest fear is that if something happens to me, he will raise my son. I hate going to court so much that I've never even filed for a cost of living adjustment for child support I'm entitled to. He sucks - we both know that - but keeping my son from the fallout is the hardest part about all of this because he wants to spend time with his dad and is just now starting to "get" that his dad isn't necessarily feeling the same way. It breaks my heart...

    I wrote a piece on deadbeat dads and what to do to try to get the money owed that I will pm you. Hope it helps a bit... 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    Lila,

    Im not a hero or someone looking for a pat on the back...Im just a mother who loves her kids!!!!!! 

    When I walked out that door the last thing he said to me was "You will never make it on your own!!!!!"

    Well, check this out A$$hole----I am extremely proud of the fact that I put myself through college, worked full time and was a good mother all at the same time!!!!!!

    Im proud of myself and I think anyone, be it man or woman, who has raised a child on their own and have seen the heart break they go through caused by a parent like my EX completely understands where your at and what your going through....

    Like with breast cancer.........it is doable and you will get through it!!!!!

    Hugs

    Jule

  • pconn03
    pconn03 Member Posts: 643
    edited March 2008

    Lilia:

    Just sending a bunch of love and hugs to you and Jade . . . no personal experience to draw on for advice but I know alot of the other ladies have helped you already!!!  Please just work on calming yourself and being good to yourself - the Lord knows you certainly deserve it!!!

    Love and hugs,

    Pat

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited March 2008

    Lilia....oh how I can relate!!

    I feel for you, because it sounds like Jade is young. My youngest right now is 16, and her father owes me still for her older sister and for her.  He is behind by 11 grand.  He lives at home with his parents, has NO bills, when he does work, it's been under the table.  I haven't recieved hardly a penny since April 2007.  I carry the insurance for all 3 of my daughters.

    There was a warrant out for his arrest since July 07.  He left the country to "work"in Honduras..yeah right!  He came back...I kept waiting for him to start working and paying something!! Well...he didn't, so finally I called the police..and they arrested him.  He spent 2 day's in jail...until he brother bailed him out.  We went to court..but it got postponed, because he was asking for a court appointed lawyer.  He claimed to the court that he found a job and would be starting it the next week.  It's been almost 3 weeks...we will see if any money starts getting deposited into my account.

    Like you...I am a single mom....went through hell last year with my dx...and you would think they would step up to the plate and take care of their children??  Guess not!! I have learned I can't count on anything anymore!

    Well...I see it as his loss.  My daughters do not have anything to do with him.  They have no respect for him.  How could they?

    I hope you and Jade do well....and she finds someone else to be that positive male role model in her life.

    All the best!


    Lisa

  • 2up
    2up Member Posts: 1,358
    edited October 2008

    oh nbn ............ i'm sooo sorry!

    i'm dealing with a sperm donor as well ........... i actually reimbursed him when he was in arrears so that he could avoid bankruptcy ......... i gave him money every year on my birthday so that he could take my dtr shopping to "buy me a present" ............ and the list of my stupidity goes on and on lol!

    ............. he is a waste of skin ............ your dtr will figure it out, mine surely is and i now regret covering up his deplorable behaviour for all these years!

    take care! michelle 

      

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    LOL shel, you are like me .......  When I got cancer, I realized that my dd's dad would probably be taking care of her when I got chemo and I feared he'd break down in his clunker and have the nerve to call me while I was sitting in the chemo chair.

    Well, I paid cash for a car with the promise he's pay me back, he paid 4 payments then abandoned the car when he moved (and was by this time out of our lives) ... thankfully, I registered it in his name and he has the collection on his credit instead of me (they tried to come after me since I held the pink). 

  • NaughtybyNature
    NaughtybyNature Member Posts: 1,448
    edited March 2008

    OMG!

    Girls... once again I am besides myself... just got a call from my daughter that some guy from Texas called my home number stating that SP gave them MY ADD. AND # PHONE AS HIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I called this person from TX and gave him all the info I have on SD!

    A month ago I had received a letter w/ his name and my new address... I went ballistic, but upon goggling his name I did find that there is an individual in MA w/ the same name.... so I let it go.

    I really don't even know what to do right now, to cry some more b/c I can't punch him or laugh... laugh... this must be a really bad joke played on me today.

    I w/ talk to you girls tomorrow.  Thanks so much for everything... but I have to go see Jade hopefully advancing to the final round of Spelling B.

    Thank you from my bottom of my heart and united we stay against BC and SDs!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2008

    Lila,

    What a day!!!!

    Go enjoy Jades spelling B and forget about all this for awhile...

    Dont cry, just enjoy your daughter, this is what life is really about :)....

    Hugs

    Jule

  • NaughtybyNature
    NaughtybyNature Member Posts: 1,448
    edited March 2008

    New day... new beginning... 

    My sweet Pat, Tina, Rocktobermom, Amy, Jule, Marisa, Felicia, Pat, Lisa and Michelle:

    Thank you so much for your support.  Usually I don't have a lot of "drama" going on in my life and if I do, lately I just kind of suck it up or use other ways to vent... but yesterday, it just hit me, left and right!  Thanks for understanding and being there for me.

    Jade made it into the 2ndround yesterday but than stumbled upon the word, Muumuu!  I knew that one but not the one before... LOL

    Man, she was so hard on herself, cried, and all; most of all, if she made it to tonight, she would be able to walk away at least w/ a medal (that's what she was most mad about).  I guess I have to go looking for a medal now and give it to her to make her sad smile brighter!

    Now back to the SD: I spent so far, a good part of my working day on the phone regarding protecting my credit as well as my daughter's credit.  I have not been w/ this person for more than 12 years and here is he... a looser father and now messing w/ me in a different way, including those included in my new life.  (I guess I don't have to stay that on my property he w/ never have the pleasure of putting his feet ever again).

    I first called the Family Court which cannot give me any information on the A$$, so I could give it to the investigator...

    Than I called American Express, where the investigator that wants to repossess his car, obtained my name, address and phone number from.  AE now has double protection on my account in case it is used fraudulently.

    Than I was told to call the Police of the town were the SD lives in NJ.  Well, they don't file Reports of Fraud via phone or E-mail, I would have to go there in person; and since I no longer live in NJ, I should contact my town's Police Department in MA;

    Called that Department and after a ping-pong game ended up w/ a nice Detective that gave me several avenues to protect me and Jade against this A$$'s don'ts...:

    I am to report to TRW, Expedian and Equifax what the SD is doing (again, besides being the SD, we have nothing else in common);

    I can call the NJ State Police and see if they take a Report over the phone since I am now out of state; and

    Register myself w/ those agencies previously mentioned or go Lifeblock.com; I checked the last one and now have to read all the small writing, come up w/ $110 for this year and all years thereafter to have my credit and Jade's credit protected.  (I also just heard that someone that protected his credit that way, one day when he applied for a store credit card, it was denied!)

    So besides being owed more the 34K, now I have to spend money to protect me/Jade against him!

    Moving along... Felicia (how my delicious M guy?  Still cracks himself up w/ his jokes?) made an excellent point about if something happens to us... well, I am the only child, ABSOLUTELY w/ not give Jade to the other side of her family which she barely knows (they never made any efforts to really care for her, and we only lived about 15/20 minutes from each other)... have no cousins or friends right now that care to leave Jade with, my parents are retired and abroad... what do I do?!?!?!  (Amy, you get Arthur, right?)

    I guess live one day at a time, expect the worse and hope for the best...

    I stopped caring about the money he owes me, I don't worry (too much) about if something happens to me, and don't talk good or bad about him to Jade, I am trying to live a stress free life now and BAM... the SOB just comes out of now where and strikes me in a way that I never expected... I guess his drug dependency is really getting the best of him... unfreaking unbelievable...!  We are so unprotected against these losers...

  • lv2cmp
    lv2cmp Member Posts: 1,363
    edited March 2008

    You better believe I got Arthur, no problem. 

    man I feel your pain.  It is hard to believe it cost you good money to protect yourself when you are in the right.  You can put a disclaimer on your credit reports so that when credit is applied for they will call a number that you give them like your cell # to verify it is you applying. 

    Sure wish I could help you more.

    Amy

  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited March 2008

    NBN...hope things get worked out for you and Jade with as little stress as possible.  The satisfaction you get is his loss is the greatest loss of all.  Jade sounds like such a wonderful child....a child any parent would be proud of...and he's missing it all. 

    I'm very sorry for Jade for any stress he's put on her....and you. 

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited March 2008

    Lilia,

    Reading of your recent struggles really took me back a few years.  My son's father was out of our lives when he was 11 months old.  Never paid any support, even though ordered the measly sum of $30 a week.  I raised him myself ... no help from anyone.  After a few years of this, I decided to take him to court to RAISE the non-existent support.  Geez .. the judge almost allowed him to quit paying what he wasn't paying in the first place.  I just gave up.  I won't go into the pain he caused my son all those years.

    Fast forward to his second ex-wife.  They had 2 kids, well she divorced his drunken ass too and he never paid her the court ordered support either.  Well ... two years ago she won a judgement for $100,000 for back support.  He had to take a lien out on his house with wife number three and child number four!!

    At least one of us got some support out of him.  My son just turned 32.  He decided a few years ago to have a relationship with his father.  I kept my mouth shut all those years.  He suffered enough pain and hurt from him as it was. I did my best and loved him more than any mom ever could .. just like you, Amy, Roctober, Jules, Sheila and the other gals have written.

    Our kids will always know who loved them and took care of them, who went to all their games, rehearsals, concerts, doctors appts, and took care of them when they were sick, who made their birthdays and holidays special. 

    Keeping you in my thoughts,

    Bren

  • NaughtybyNature
    NaughtybyNature Member Posts: 1,448
    edited March 2008

    Hi Bren, Patrice...

    I hear you Bren... I hear you. 

    I am just extremely frustrated about the Court system... and any all systems that fail our children and us.

  • mailman
    mailman Member Posts: 81
    edited March 2008

    To terminate a parents right's ?  Wow,  seems to me to be a bit extreme.  I know a little about raising kids and so before any of you gals get upset let me give you some history.  I was a father of two great kids by the time I was 20 years old.  My ex and I were great friends post separation until she started to date another man.  Needless to say this man had a sexual appetite for little girls.  I ended up with custody of my little girl.  During the two years my head was fck up while keeping myself from committing a crimminal offense I paid no child support.  I repeat nothing.........I had a hard time keeping my mind focused as I kept searching for my kids........as my ex would move as to avoid me confronting the offender who lived with my ex.  So,  I ended up getting custody after my daughter was victimized.  I am a sperm donor per this groups definition.  Would you think that my parental rights should be stripped?  My daughter is now 27 years old  She just recently 3 years ago re-established a relationship with her mother whom abandoned her for  a man.........Her mother had a son with me and two other kids with the offender to boot.  So  the point I am making is that  had I stripped my ex of her parental rights than my daughter would have yet another  hurdle to over come in terms of reconnecting with her mother.  Yes,  it's unfair that single parents are often the sole provider as the absent parent usually removes themselves from the picture.  That said,  you have all  of the memories to look back upon in the latter years of life.  The memories of our children will be truthful,  sometimes maturity brings out the real light, but if we as single parents move towards the termination options I feel that it would and could back fire on some of those that don't think it through.  Is it fair that men and women don't pay support?  Hell no.  In the end though it does catch up to the absent parents whom avoid the support payments.  I have seen it come back big time on those guys I know whom thought they were getting away with it.  This isn't to minimize what you all are going through,  I did as well,  but I think it could be a mistake.  Only in extreme cases do I believe that severing a parents rights to be  justified.  I can only hope that states begin to deny drivers licenses, etc to dead beat parents.  yes most are men but there are dead beat mom's as well.  In terms of  men.  Some men simply can't deal with the control that women force upon them post divorce custody issues.  My ex got away with a lot before I got custody.  What did I learn from all of the hell my daughter and  I went through?  I stayed away from women for twelve years because of  the baggage I got from my exp with divorce courts and the unfair application of a double standard.  Men vs women in custody issues.  My ex never paid me a dime in child  support..................Nothing.............she wasn't ordered by the court either. ................so what's the lesson here?  If you have custody then assume your going to be the sole provider and live accordingly.  I know its not going to be the opinion most here agree with but its mine after my own personal exp of being a single parent.  I am also free from hatred as I forgave my ex many years ago. The act of forgiving her was by for the best thing I ever did formyself..........................

  • smithlme
    smithlme Member Posts: 1,322
    edited March 2008

    I'll add my story to the pot. Short story: divorced 13 years, three kids now 24, 21 & 17. Child support was set 13 years ago as a lump sum, not per child. As the kids turned 18, SD wanted me to pay him back what I owed HIM! He even went so far as to send me a spread sheet of what I owed him for the two oldest. In January I received court papers that he's taking me back to court to lower the child support. Mind you, our daughter is 17 and a senior in high school and he sees her 3.78% of the time. Did I mention he lives 15 minutes away?? And..I spent 5 months last year on Disability going through surgery and chemo and out again the past 9 weeks for a TRAM flap that failed?? Such a compassionate idiot! Senior year means BIG BUCKS being spent on pictures, announcements, senior ball and all the activities. On the court paper that asks him why he wants to change the support and why it's in the best interest of the child, he writes that the IRS is leveying his wages. Gee, could it be that he messed up him 2002 & 2003 taxes to the amount of $11,000.00 and has a DUI fine to pay back??? He had to provide all documentation of his financial records. How is this in the best interest of our child?

    Years ago he told the kids that he'd only be happy when I die. I'll bet when I was diagnosed he was counting down the days! Needless to say, I'm doing my best to stay alive and keep him miserable!

    My son has grown into a fine young man, proud Marine, and loving husband and father. My oldest daughter is in an excelerated teaching program in college, happily married and they own their own home. Not too shabby for a single Mom!

    Court on April 7th ought to be loads of fun. I'm so glad the SD has our daughters best interests at heart!

    Linda

  • JustOne
    JustOne Member Posts: 226
    edited March 2008

    I have a dead beat mom story for ya...

    A very long story short. My son has had physical custody of my grandson since he was 5mos old, she basically handed him over.  He finally wins full custody in court 2yrs later, after paying HER child support that entire time. She was ordered to pay CS but never has paid a dime, he's 5 now.

    A few months ago, she decides she wants him back after all this time. She claims she's married now and settled down, blahblahblah.

    The custody case begins, the Guardian Ad Litem is hired and finds out that she is a dominatrix and married one of her slaves! I'm not kidding!  Guess what? Our court system is so screwed up, it says it does not matter what goes on in a persons bedroom....may be she's a good mom now!

    The GAL said not to worry...she's a pathological liar too. But you know, the courts still love children to be with the mothers and that is what has our family worried sick.  And about the CS? Oh it's just a few thousand and it doesn't have anything to do with custody....

    yeah, unbelievable.

    Pam

  • NaughtybyNature
    NaughtybyNature Member Posts: 1,448
    edited March 2008

    Okay I guess I have to start w/ mailman (glad to see you are still around)....

    I was hoping that some man would join this conversation because there are men out there that are exactly or have experienced our situation(s);

    It just so seems that the rate of mothers taken the all "burden" of raising children by themselves is way much higher than the fathers. 

    A father that looks out for his child(ren), wants to see them, wants to be part of their life, wants to protect them... and is there for them is NOT IN MY BOOK A SD!!!!!!!!!!!!  So what, things did not work out for the adults... for no reason whatsoever a child should pay the price of being denied the love and care of both parents (regardless of the gender if we want to add that to the fire).

    You did what you had to do to make sure that you did not end up in jail... I commend you for being that sane... I don't know if I could because when it comes to my daughter I will fight anyone...

    Knowing that your child was always in the presence of "danger" and the other parent seemed completely oblivious to the pending danger/crime you did what you had to do, unfortunately at a cost.... Again I commend you.

    My case is that this SD has not cared for Jade in any shape or form EVER... forget about the money... this is not about the $$$$$! 

    This is NOW about emotional distress on the child... it's not enough that he interrupts my working life w/ non-sense, Jade at home is receiving calls from creditors looking for him!!!!!!!!!!!  He is using our address and home number in a fraudulent way.  And I was never married to this guy...!

    Is that fair for her to be put in that position?!?!?!  He is such a selfish MFer that all he cares for is for his habits and whatever else he is into... regardless if he interrupts his daughter's life w/ non-sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

    Do you know that the last time he saw her, was in late August... do you know the last time he called her... X-mas day.  Do you want to hear about the 12 years previous communications and contacts?

    Do you know what the non-present of a father does to a little girl's life???  For years to be the only kid in her school back in NJ that only her mother showed up for everything vs. the other kids w/ both sets of parents.... Do you know how many tears have we both cried... do you know how much "hammering" I have done into Jade's head regarding she was wanted, she is here, it's his loss not ever hers and most of all NEVER her fault for him to be the way he is...?

    I am not mad or lashing out at you mailman, I am just giving you part of what has been my life raising Jade by myself and SD not caring a bit for her.  I, like so many here being the Mother and the Father at the same time, the good and the bad, the praise and the punisher...

    He deserves to have his rights taken away from him, this has not been an abandonment of one year, five years... it has been Jade's entire life so far... and never NEVER have I stopped him of reaching out to Jade... as you can see, I even gave him the address and directions how to get from NJ to MA to see his daughter, her cell. # and our home number....  Does he care?!  NO!

    Regardless what future wise the Judge will decide about his parental rights or not, I w/ never stop Jade from seeing him or being in touch w/ him... I encourage it ... but she is not stupid and naive girl anymore... she knows who is wrong and who is right and later on if she wants to connect again with him... please do... I just hope not to be pulled in again to clean her tears...

    Again, there are here single MOTHERS and FATHERS that do everything and anything to make sure that their children are put before themselves.  Unfortunately it is not the case of all of the cases "exposed" here.

    (((((((((((((Hugs to a FATHER, you mailman)))))))))))))))))

  • NaughtybyNature
    NaughtybyNature Member Posts: 1,448
    edited March 2008

    JustOne/Pam: I am so sorry about your son's situation... just like many fathers out there (mailman).

    My thoughts are with your family.  I hope she does not get the custody.

    ((((((((((Huge Hugs))))))))))))))

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2008

    I pushed for the termination rights as NBN said, the SD did not want anything to do with the child and I also was trying to protect my child from the abuse. While I was pregnant the sd left me for 4 months because he could not deal with the upcoming birth. I let him back in my life 1 month before the birth but when my son was 3 months old, I was at the hospital with fractured bones in my face from a beating that I received from him. It took the fractures to make me see that he was not a good influence on the child's life. My son is now a great man and serving in the military. He thinks of his new dad as his real dad.

    Mailman I am not saying that all absent parents deserve the treatment I gave the sd of my son, My dh wanted to be a part of his daughter's life, paid his child support regulary and has been treated as nothing but a sd before they split.

    Sheila

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