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  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    Annie

    I just had implants put in.  My ps didn't use expanders for my surgery, because he said since I am so small, he could do this implant surgery in "one shot".  It was like breast augmentation, only I didn't have any breasts!  Now I forget...did you have bi-lateral mastectomy, or was it just ONE??  My ps office has a tattoo artist who will tattoo the aureolas on ... I go on Thursday!   My ps will take my nipple off and make two nipples and attach them, but not til May 22nd.

    I don't know if my friends are polite because they tell me things sometimes, and I wonder What are they thinking?

    I will check for the instructions.  My pictures aren't very good... I am very un photogenic!

    Thanks!

    Harley

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    ok...let me try this again...

    Here goes...

    HARLEY

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    WoW!!  That is TOO BiG!  But, I don't know how to make it small!!!

  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited March 2008

    Oh Harley!  What a cute picture!  I love it!  How I wish I had your brown eyes!

    And I did stare at your boob area because I could never wear that top.  My tumor was near the cleavage area and that's where my scar is.  You're just looking pretty darn good, I think!

    Have a good day!  I'm off for the last day of bowling this year!

    Rita

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    Rita,

    You are just TOO nice!  That was a sundress that I bought when my dh and I went on that cruise back in February!  I could never wear anything like that before bc, since I was just TOO small chested!!  lol

    Good Luck with your bowling!!  Have fun!  I guess after this last game, it will be golf for you!

    Harley

  • 3ofus
    3ofus Member Posts: 254
    edited March 2008

    Great to see all the photos of everyone!  What a beautiful group of ladies we have here!

    Wow Harley, amazing! Did you have skin sparing mast with implants?  Looks great!

    Just got caught up on a couple pages of posts...Annie, you are so funny!  I love the "dolphin" comment---nice big belly laugh. Tx.

    Thanks also for the prayers.  I have not seen any hives for a week and am very hopeful that that is the end of them this time around(5th time). I think I had an allergic reaction to a medication. Prior I had them for months, like you.  I also truly believe there is a connection to thyroid autoimmune problems.  I first started getting hives 6 months after being diagnosed with Hyshimotos (sp?) thyroidis (15 years ago).  There is more info on the net regarding this now. There also appears to be a link with thyroid prob and bc---go figure. Anyways, I'm feeling good and thankful they didn't come to stay for longer this time.

    How are you doing Carol?  

    Rita, do you still have snow?  We still do.  This time last year we were talking about cleaning out our gardens!

    Hi to Candie and everyone else.

    ((hugs))Ginny 

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    Ginny,

    Aww... thanks so much!  Yes, I guess that is the kind of mast. I had.  I have all my skin, but for the reconstruction, my ps just shoved some implants in, under the chest muscle, and filled them up... Voila!

    I just went for the tattooing of the aureola today, and OUCH! did it ever hurt!  The tattooist numbed the area, but it took awhile before it took effect. 

    I'm glad the hives seem better...  You know, alot of things are related to auto immune issues!  I also have Hashimotos thyroiditis, as well as Premature Ovarian Failure... 

    Glad you are feeling better!

    Harley

  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited March 2008

    Hey there, Ginny!  I'm so glad that you're feeling better!  YEA!!!!

    Our snow is gone right now.  We've had so much rain that it's all melted and the ground is a wet, soggy mess.  There were a few walkers out on the golf course today but it's too wet for me yet.  The Chicago area is expecting more snow tonight but we are far enough south that we're just supposed to get more rain.  My iris and daffodils are peeking out.  I'm anxious to get out there and get them uncovered but don't want to rush it in case we do get hit with more snow.

    Hello to everyone!  It's been relatively quiet on the thread this week so I'm hoping that everyone is feeling well, tolerating the treatments well and that you're just all busy getting ready for Easter.

    I'll check in later.

    Rita

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited March 2008

    Hi Ladies, sorry I've been mia this week, I tend to spend too much time on the Jan 2008 chemo thread, and sometimes by the time I'm done there I'm pooped out, or need to do something around the house.  This working fulltime is getting in my way!!!

    Anyhow, all is well on the homefront.  I definitely feel that my energy level by the end of my work day is just about shot.  I know that the txt is cumulative and I think not sleeping more than a few hours at a time doesn't help.  I have had a huge problem with a dry mouth throughout the night.  I don't know if I'm sleeping with my mouth open or what.  But the dry mouth leads to more water, and the water leads to peeing, yada, yada, yada!  I swish with biotene, have tried putting a humidifier in our bedroom, but so far no great success.  Feeling like thats not much to complain about, so life is good!

    Harley, thanks for sharing the great pic, and I must admit I did have to examine the new hoots.  Your looking mighty fine there gal!  I let out an ouch on your behalf when I read about your tatooing!  Heck I don't even want the dots tatooed before for rads!  Couldn't imagine what you went through.  With the smile you have on your face, I'm sure your very happy.

    Rita, bowling too huh?  Havn't league bowled since I was too big to bend when I was preggo now 16 yrs ago.   We used to have a great time!  So with today being the first day of spring, I say its time for this crappy weather to go away, and lets dust off those clubs!!!

    We're heading to Arizona on Sat, planning on seeing a spring training game, golfing ourselves, relaxing at the pool, meeting Jill at her home, and also watching the LPGA tour, the lady golfers are in the valley next week.  Can't wait!!!  

    Ginny, glad that you seemed to be feeling better, and I appreciate you asking how I'm also doing.  You gals all told me that this txt is tolerable, and you have not sent me astray! 

    The ol' hair is pretty thin, just got it cut real short, I don't even have to dry it out of the shower, just a lil gel and the spikey look is it for now! 

    Had a great treat this week, my bf of 38 yrs owns a salon and spa, and she gave me a massage/facial as a birthday gift.  Went in Monday, and felt like mush when I left!  I think I need to treat myself to another in a few months (I'd love more often but there's a pretty hefty price tag attached).  I left feeling rejuvinated and I know my bf felt equally as good with the gift she was able to provide. 

    Annie, hope all is well with you, I don't have much input on the boob surgery stuff, I just decide in the morning if I want to wear my boob or not.  I've got my swim boob packed for vacation, hope I don't bob to one side in the water Laughing !!!

    Jill, Hope that your txt went well today, and the se's stay at a minimum.  So looking forward to meeting you on Weds., and can't wait to get some warmth on my bones, its raining and about 45 here today, and the weather report looks pretty darn good for the next week your way. 

    Off to clean out my golf bag, take out the cold weather gear, and get geared up for some sun!

    Take care ladies, and thanks for keeping this post going when some of us go mia!!!

    Carol

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    carol,

    Do you have to take steroids before and after your tx?  I didn't get CMF, because my onc wanted to use taxotere & cytoxan...I didn't have a choice.  I took Decadron the night before and the day after (at night) my tx.  It made me very hungry, and also affected my sleep... I didn't sleep much more than 2 or 3 hours at a time.

    Yep, the tattoos HURT!  OUCH!!  the tattooist put some numbing stuff on them, but only AFTER she did some of it, without anything.  Then she said, "My, you ARE sensitive!"  I couldn't help thinking that just because these are not REAL, they are my skin, so YES I will feel everything!! 

    I can't wait for warmer weather!!  Today is the first day of Spring!  Yea!! 

    Happy Easter!


    Harley

  • Annabella58
    Annabella58 Member Posts: 2,466
    edited March 2008

    Hi girls, sorry if I post this twice, just got back from getting my daughter at college in PA, a bit tired.

    Harley you are beautiful!  I love your curly 'do and I can't see anything at all on your chest to even show you ever had bc...you look amazing!  I could never wear that top, those pretty little things would not cover the "lakefront property"..nor all the scars!  But you look fabulous, lucky girl.

    Carol, I am glad you are feeling better and even more glad you get to go on vacation and golf!  that's going to be wonderful, get some sun for us all!  I love the swim boob comment.  You have a great attitude, I hope your vacation is terrific.

    re: my surgery, Harley, I had one boob off with skin sparing..they went in thru the nipple and did like an apple coring procedure, most of which I probably do not need to share, huh.

    Now ladies, I too, had hashimotos, and the hives came before diagnosis.  there seems to be an autoimmune link here, we prob. should all mention to our oncs...

    Anyway, glad to read everybodys posts and hear all the news and know we all are getting along.

    Treatment #3 for me on Tuesday.  Oh well, 3 down, 5 to go.  I still feel great, but have been using exercise bike 20 mins. daily when i have energy and I do notice it helps alot with energy levels.  I wonder if your body can process the chemo better that way or something.

    xoxo

    annie

  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited March 2008

    Annie,  I think that any type of activity you can do during treatments and rads helps with your energy level.  I think it's wonderful that you are doing the 20 min. per day.  I tried to keep up all the activities that I did before bc.....golfing, bowling, walking and I think it really helped my fatigue level.  It also helped my morale and positive thinking.

    Hang in there....you're almost to pass the half way mark.

    Rita

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited March 2008

    Harley, I get the steriods in a drip prior to my infusion, I havn't had to take any pill form prior to or after.  Thank goodness as I have a hard time sleeping on txt day as it is, even with a lorazepam.

    So your a little sensitive, "ya think", what a goofy thing for the tatooist to say... so do you get this procedure done at a medical office or what?  I'm a little ignorant on the subject but kinda curious.

    Annie, bottoms up to you on Tuesday.  Hope that your txt goes smoothly for you.  I'm a firm believer that keeping your body moving has got to be good.  I took what Rita and others said and went with it ... although at times I have over did just a bit.  Between the mass quantity of water and lots of activity, those chemicals have to be working through our bodies.

    I'll be checking in occassionally on vacation and I hope you all have a nice Easter holiday.

    Carol

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    Carol,  I got Decadron on the night before and the next day/night after chemo, but the day of chemo, it was in the little plastic bag of those oh, so wonderful pre-chemo drugs, that helped me to get through it without hardly any se's.  I didn't get any nausea, and only the first time, I had diarrhea!!  EEK!  But, I had trouble sleeping, since it kind of keeps you up at night.

    Yep, I wondered how this tattooing would go.  I have never had any kind of tattoos, either.  Last month, when I had a "patch test" done to see if I would have a reaction to the pigment, the tattooist asked me if I could feel it... I said... YES.  I guess since they aren't "REAL", she thought I couldn't feel anything.  She mentioned that some women are kind of numb after the surgery, but my surgery was .... last year!   HELLO?  BTW, this was a medical facility, at my ps office.  The tattooist has all kinds of diplomas and certificates on the wall...

    Hope you have a great vacation and a wonderful Easter!

    Harley

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited March 2008

    Harley, thanks for sharing, I continue to learn on a daily basis ... I was assuming that the tatooing wasn't done at the local parlor!  I still think I would need atleast a couple shots of whiskey to get through it, (and I don't like whiskey!). 

    Off to my Jan 2008 post, its a chatty group!

    Night to you all, Carol

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    Annie,

    Yes, I agree with Rita... any kind of physical activity definitely helps to keep any se's from the chemo at bay.  I tried to go for walks throughout my tx, even walking nearly every day, especially right after I got out of the hospital, after my bi-lateral mast.  I had those stupid drain tubes around me, and they were so uncomfortable! 

    Aw... thanks for the nice comments...my scars are all the way across my chest, so I guess I should be glad that they are not visible. 

    Today, I had the tattoos (aureolas)  put on... OUCH!  They hurt!    I felt like I had to be brave, and after all that I have been through so far, these last finishing touches are really what is hurting the most, I think.  I am curious about the skin or nipple sparing mast... did you keep the nipple, too?  No, I don't think it is TMI!!  

    Harley

  • Annabella58
    Annabella58 Member Posts: 2,466
    edited March 2008

    Hiya ladies!

    Rita:  Thank you so much for your encouragement...I am modelling my treatment regime (mod. exercise as fatigue permits) on you, Carol and Harley, as I subscribe to the same beliefs as you guys re: exercise and keeping moving to move those drugs through.  And all three of you seem to have done so well!!

    Carol: Have such a great time!!! Hope for lots of sunshine and fun and great golf for you! I bet your spikey 'do looks fabulous, you have such a beautiful face!

    Harley:

    Good lord, I think that tatoo artist must be mentally challenged...I can't even imagine how that must have hurt.  Ow, I hurt on your behalf!!

    Nope, nipple was gone, kind of like a face without an eye, I try not to dwell on it, only to say, "well, they can make a new one if I need it".  The skin sparing thing was kind of like leaving a hollow shell, how's that for weird...I so felt like a science experiment.  

    I had those bags of stuff hanging off me too, and once they got rid of those, so much better.  I think it's part of the whole "experience" for us all pretty much, not with lumpectomy I had tho.  Perhaps it's where the cancer is?

    Anyway, thanks for input ladies!!   Carol, have a blast, and I hope everyone has a beautiful, blessed Easter.

    love to all,

    annie

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

     Carol, I didn't think that you thought I went to a tattoo parlor!Laughing  But, my dh and I joked about it at first.  I kept saying "I may end up at a tattoo parlor, if we can't find someone to do it."  I pictured a bunch of bikers, standing around, watching...

    Annie, the boobs feel lots better today, thanks!  I sometimes still feel a sharp pain, if I move a certain way.  Yep, that tattoo woman wasn't too bright... I am guessing that she thought I just had my mast., and reconstruction only a few weeks ago?....

    Yes, it really helps to keep moving. 

    Happy Easter!

    Harley

  • Annabella58
    Annabella58 Member Posts: 2,466
    edited March 2008

    Hi all:

    Happy Easter!  Carol, happy vacation!!!

    Harley, I'm glad the boobs feel better.......another step in this seemingly endless (feels like) process, right?

    I too, had the tatoo parlour thought.  And I also, was thinking Kat Von Dam, LA Ink, tough types hanging out.....silly, but I went there as well.  I did see a tatoo artist advert in the ps's office, so I knew that rationally, of course they have good people, but you know how it is.  None of this stuff has anything to do with rationale.

    I always had a sharp pain in different spots after the lumpectomy and now after mastectomy (sort of mastectomy I guess) again.  It is more really tight, like you are wearing an 8 year old's bra.  So annoying, cuz you really want to take the bra off and can't.  Lots and lots of stretching for us!

    My "leftie" doesn't seem to want to be bigger than a B but as my stripper days are behind me as well, that's ok

    Everyone hang in, thanx for all the good wishes on tuesday!  I'm scared of SEs but will just put my head down and muddle thru!

    love to all

    annie

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited March 2008

    Happy Easter Sunday,

    Just a quickie from Arizona, day one was fabulous, golfed nine holes, watched our Mariner's getting beat by the Angels, and now relaxing in the 80+ degree weather.

    Rita, gotta love a 20 to 30 yard roll on a awesome fairway.  My chipping could really use some help though.  Had a great time today, so nice to get away from lifes realities for a short time.  I havn't looked at your weather in Ill, hoping that you'll be hitting the links on a regular basis real soon.

    Jill, hoping that your txt se's are staying at bay, so looking forward to our trip to Chandler on Weds.  Trying to watch my sun in-take, never have worn 45 sunscreen, so much for that spring tan to take home to Wash.  I'll give you a buzz in the next night or two, hoping that your feeling pretty good.

    To my other CMF friends, just sneaking some peaks throughout the week, enjoying life without work this week.  Getting ready to enjoy a ham dinner with our dear friends, hope you all are enjoying your Easter with family and friends as well.

    Take care friends,

    Carol

  • Annabella58
    Annabella58 Member Posts: 2,466
    edited March 2008

    p.s to Rita

    Somehow, you always find the most encouraging things to say and I really appreciate it....writing that I am almost half way there.......what a positive spin that puts on it.  Thank you!!

    I appreciate all you ladies and all your input..

    love

    annie

  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited March 2008

    Hi everyone!  I hope you all had a nice Easter.  I had lots of fun with my grandsons and was amazed by all the GREEN grass in Kentucky.  Yea!  That has to mean that spring is also on the way to Illinois.

    Temperatures are still cool here today but it's expected to warm up this week so I hope to get on the course (which is officially open to carts now) later this week.  Unfortunately, Carol, the ground is still pretty soggy here from all the rain so I won't get that wonderful "roll" that you're getting in sunny AZ.  I'm so glad that you're having fun, hitting the links, doing things you like to do, and just GETTING AWAY from the routine.  It will do you a "world of good!"

    Annie...Tomorrow's the day and you'll be able to mark off another treatment and put it behind you.  Just when you're feeling your ol' spunky self again, the next treatment seems to roll around.  Besides worrying about any side effects, I always had to worry about getting the one nurse who needed a refresher course on IV insertion, too.  I thought I'd been given a pound of chocolate if I escaped being put in her area.  I didn't have a port and really didn't need it unless I got her.  I did notice that she wasn't pictured in the latest onc nurses' photo in the cancer center newsletter.  Maybe somebody got smart out there!  LOL    Anyway, I did find that my side effects were different after each treatment and as scary as the thought of them is.......I never knew what to expect and sometimes got a pleasant surprise!  So hang in there tomorrow and the few days that follow.  You can do it!  It's always "doable" but just isn't something that we wish to do.  I wish I lived closer.  I'd bob over tonight and give you a big hug.  They work LOTS better than positive words so be sure to get a few of those between now and tomorrow, and let us know how it's going!

    Hope you're doing well after your treatment, Jill!

    Hi Ginny, Candie, Susan, SoCal Lisa, and everybody else that I missed on this quick "run by."  I'll be back when I have more time to get caught up on the posts!

    Have a good Monday!  Just chip one in for me this week, Carol!  LOL

    Rita

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited March 2008

    Rita, just a quick note, had my best round ever today, shot a 87, albeit on a pretty short course from the reds, 4800 yds.  Had a blast, must be having a numb underarm and fake boob on the right thats helped.  Hey, whatever it takes ... although not recommended to others!!!

    I'll be lurking throughout the week, kinda nice to be in another world if even for a short time ...

    Carol

  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited March 2008

    Wow, Carol...the only place I have ever had an 87 was in my dreams!  Congratulations and just keep them coming!  That's super!

    Enjoy the rest of your vacation!

    Rita

  • Annabella58
    Annabella58 Member Posts: 2,466
    edited March 2008

    Hi ladies...

    Oh wow, Rita, you have read my thoughts..each treatment has been so very different, I thought today I did not know what to expect.  Haven't been all that thrilled about going, but as you put it so very well, another one to mark off!  Your cyber hug helped so much...my husband is wonderful but men can't get it, would rather not discuss it, and my family is too freaked out by the whole thing, I end up having to reassure every one else.  Kind of draining, I'm sure you guys have all felt that way.  Other than this wonderful message board and all my new friends here, felt kind of alone.  You guys make all the difference, you really truly do.

    I am keeping that thought in my head tomorrow...."almost halfway there"..I just love that.  When I look at my "barbie boob" in the mirror I tell myself "this too will pass, think ahead six months!"

    And then, inevitably come the "oh god, more tests, blah blah"  ....what on earth do they do for mammograms with reconstructed boobs?  MRIs instead?  If they try to get a mammogram won't the damn thing pop?

    And knowing me, I'd probably laugh if it did except for all the expense and the pain of it.  Some days I kind of wish I'd gone the au naturel route and just said the hell with it and gotten me a pop on and off pair........easier I think in the end.  However...before I get completely off track, thank you again for your kindness and helping all of us here to keep on hanging in there.

    It really helps so much!!

    I am so happy you had a great time with those adorable grandbabies of yours!

    Carol, you sound great!  You so deserve this vacation and I hope it is sunshine for you all week long and that you have a great time!

    I so admire your can do attitude and positive outlook.  The fact that you work full time, keep a smile on your face and your home life intact is awesome.  And all while undergoing chemo on a pretty tough schedule, too.  Some people can't handle all that w/out chemo on top of it! You are an inspiration, you truly are.

    Jill, I hope you are feeling OK, what number is this for you?

    Harley, how are you doing today lady?  I hope the boobs are better!

    Oh well, better sign off, took daughter back to college today and kind of sleepy. (and sad, cuz I loved having her home and miss her already)  However......it's better when they aren't here to witness chemo crapola!  Easier, I think than last time when she was 12, and keeping the upbeat stuff going, and the schedule of all the activites you have to drive them to, etc. was rough.  Carol, again, my hat's off to you!

    love to all, hang in there everybody!

    annie

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited March 2008

    Annie, I'm with you, this is the place to express your true feelings, although so many of us have family and friends to count on and help us along this rocky road, having others in the same boat, or having recently been among us, helps so much.  We're all going to get through this and be here to help others along in the future.  Lets hope with out the fever pitch of the past years, there's gotta be a link to finding a cure for this crappy disease.

    Love you gals, off to bed,

    Carol

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    Annie,

    Yes, the boobs feel better, Thanks!  Although, I am frustrated, because...the little pasty pads that cover the tattoos keep shifting, and I have ruined TWO bras!  They are now discolored!!

    Just remember... "Keep your eye on the prize!"  You are almost halfway?  WOW!!   I remember when I reached that point in my tx!  I only had 4 tx of Taxotere & Cytoxan, but when I finished, we took some friends out for dinner, and I had a glass of champagne to celebrate!!

    It WILL get better!!

    Hugs

    Harley

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited March 2008

    Hey everyone,

    Will I ever stop freaking out at every pain?  I flipped my mattress over, and it's a queen-size!!  My dh helped, but he dropped it mid way...  oh, it hurt when the mattress fell on me!  But, I didn't think about it again, until 1 1/2 - 2 weeks later, when just a few days ago, I started having that lower back pain, only it was worse this time!  I was so scared!!  But, last night when I couldn't sleep, I remembered the mattress exercise!! 

    Hope everyone have a great day!

    Harley

  • Annabella58
    Annabella58 Member Posts: 2,466
    edited March 2008

    Hi all:

    Well, treatment #3 crossed off, I am almost halfway!  Yay!

    Hope no ses, but will think positive.

    Thanks everyone for keeping my vibe positive and upbeat....it really helps.

    Harley, you had champagne?  Is that OK to do?  Cuz this girl could soooo use a drink!  I thought I couldn't.

    Maybe it's excused if it's champagne :)

    It should be!  medicinal you know.

    Good to know about the tatoos!  I ruined many many bras when they were still marking with blue market for radiation sites.

    Let me know how the nip sharing goes, you too, are almost there, and just tying "bows" on the finished product.

    Here's a weird aside..........girls, I don't want my husband to see "it" til it looks OK...he wants to make love and I am just too self conscious...how does one approach this issue?  I hope this is OK to ask, if it's too personal don't go there, but if anybody wants to tell me how they get over this hurdle (the lumpectomy one was easy) fire away!

    Carol, thinking of you in the sun, and hope you are having a wonderful time!

    love

    annie

  • Annabella58
    Annabella58 Member Posts: 2,466
    edited March 2008

    p.s. Harley, honey, if you flip a mattress over, and it hurts; well, that sounds like your answer.

    Take it a little easy til your back feels better, it sounds like a muscle spasm, don't worry.

    If it doesnt get better quickly tho do please call your doctor, it wouldn't do to get all this way  to have your back hurting you when you go out for your celebration dinner with your beautiful new boobs!  With highbeams!!! Ta Dahhh!

    Take care

    love

    annie

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