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  • wvgirl
    wvgirl Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2008

    well I ust finished my 4th and final taxotere today.

    I did ask onc to do a ultrasound before I stat the A/C in 3 weeks.

    I told him I want to see the measurement from where I started at. And where I am now. He said we will do that.I am so glad I have such a wounderfull Onc.

    I was ask to do a public speaking at a conference in April. I am waiting on the information. I am a little nervous to do it. I really want to because anything I can do the help others I will..

  • guitarGrl
    guitarGrl Member Posts: 697
    edited March 2008

    mmc - sorry about your news. Can one person have such terrible luck? You bet - every one of us here.



    wvgirl - no need to be nervous. Whenever you do public speaking there'll always be at least one person nodding their head when you say something. You focus on her, and any others if there is more than one. Ignore the people who look like they are falling asleep - there's some in every crowd. It's not you. It's them - they are rude. You'llbe fine as long as you don't just read some prepared text. Now that is boring.

  • ladybugcyndi
    ladybugcyndi Member Posts: 87
    edited March 2008

    I am a triple negative .. which I initially thought was a good thing.  But I guess it turns out is isn't?  This is all still so very confusing for me.  Just when I think I've figured it out, BAM! , I didn't!

  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Member Posts: 193
    edited March 2008

    Good evening lady bug cyndi, sorry you had to join us here but you'll find lots of support, love and a wealth of information on the site. My dx is very similar to yours and now am doing 4 dd ac and then 4 dd taxol and then 16 rads. Triple negs don't respond to hormone tx so it is chemo and rads. Chemo is very effective with triple negs.

    take care

  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Member Posts: 193
    edited March 2008

    Good evening lady bug cyndi, sorry you had to join us here but you'll find lots of support, love and a wealth of information on the site. My dx is very similar to yours and now am doing 4 dd ac and then 4 dd taxol and then 16 rads. Triple negs don't respond to hormone tx so it is chemo and rads. Chemo is very effective with triple negs.

    take care

  • dhettish
    dhettish Member Posts: 501
    edited March 2008

    Hi everybody,

    Another triple neg here. I had a double mast, 4 rounds of AC and 3 rounds of Taxotere. Was to have my 4th round on 3/4/08 but due to severe edema in my upper torso and arms, breathlessness, sever fatigue, and muscle weakness, my onc feels it may be my heart. She says Taxotere does not cause these symptoms but from what I hear, I believe it is the Taxotere. I go for a MUGA on 3/10/08 and then see her on 3/11/08 to see if she will give me my final round. I am not a chemo junkie, but being TN I want all I can get since it is all I have.

    I have to stay off some of the websites because I get so scared about the prognosis of TN BC survivors. I am afraid after the chemo that I will feel like I am freefalling. Just waiting for that other shoe to drop. I know that will pass, but right now it seems like I am fighting and then we just stop????

    Anyway, I have got to get over some of these side effects. I cannot walk through a dept. store, go up a flight of stairs without being extremely winded. I am 49 and was very active before my dx. I have gained 18 lbs (mostly fluid) and am pretty much housebound. But today, I was in very high spirits. I just can't stay down for long. Spring is coming her in Tenn and I am ready to get out in my garden but wonder how much I can really do this year.

    Anyway, wanted to introduce myself and see how everyone else copes with  those "weepy" days.

    Debbie 

  • wvgirl
    wvgirl Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2008

    Debbie- I understand how you feel. I am tn also. I have faith in the lord and my Onc. I was very blessed to have the Onc I have. He is the great ! I ask him last Wed if he would order a ultrasound after my 4th Taxoter. I wanted to know how much my tumor has shrunk before I stat the A/C. He agreed to have it done. I told him it will give me peace of mind. To let me know on record and paper that the chemo is working.

    Pray for strength everyday.  Sending you hugs.

  • suz45
    suz45 Member Posts: 796
    edited March 2008

    Hi, I am also triple neg. Found my lump August 15, lumpectomy Oct 19. Am almost done my chemo 4 X dd A/C then 4 X dd Taxol. I have one more Taxol left then onto radiation. Am being tested for BRCA 1 as two Uncles and two Cousins (that we know of) have it. Will have the results in about 5 weeks. And here continues my journey.

    Love and hugs to all

    Suz

  • dhettish
    dhettish Member Posts: 501
    edited March 2008

    Good Evening Ladies,

    I had a wonderful day. I belive my energy may be coming back! I actually did a little retail therapy today and parked away from the stores and walked and I could walk briskly without tiring too much! Does not sound like much but it is such a big improvement, my spirits soared. My cheekbones are also starting to peek through the puffiness. I had a wonderful talk with a woman pastor I met and it has just been a beautiful day. I have a ball cap that says "One tough chick". I am planning on wearing it when I see my Onc on Tuesday and tell her to bring on the last round. I think I can handle it. Of course, still have to have the MUGA tomorrow but I have no fears.

    It is so wonderful after feeling so bad to feel so good. I feel like I could fly! I hope you ladies had a wonderful day as well!

    Debbie 

  • RN2teach
    RN2teach Member Posts: 312
    edited March 2008

    Hi TN sisters,

    Feeling much better this weekend. Round 4 of AC brought a lot of nausea (thankfully, controlled by drugs). I have a cold again, though... I have had upper respiratory stuff for 6 weeks now--some I think d/t the cytoxan (constant watery eyes and runny nose, REAL attractive).

    MMC- the waiting for the tests is going to be the hardest part, I think. I'll be praying for good news...

    WVgirl- speakers with a personal message are the best kind. And boy, do you have a journey to share with them! You'll be great. Don't forget that I'll be happy to come and lend you my moral support!

    ladybugcyndi- How far are you with your treatment plan? I see you were dx on 1/31--not long ago.

    Debbie- glad you're feeling better this evening. I hope your MUGA is good and you can finish your chemo. Just one more round... that's great!

    I begin 4 rounds of Taxol on Friday. Hope you all have a good day tomorrow.

    Paula

  • ladybugcyndi
    ladybugcyndi Member Posts: 87
    edited March 2008

    Rn.. I have had my lumpectomy and got those results. I go tomorrow for my echocardiogram, since I'll be having chemo.  I finally meet the oncologist this Thursday, so I am hoping to get the ball on the road soon with treatment.  I am ready to get started.  Our son is leaving for Iraq in April, so I am wanting to get this started and over with so when he comes back next year, I'll be as healthy as I can be when we fly into Germany to meet his company for the big welcome home.  My sister and her husband are flying over with Mike (my husband) and I.  I will keep ya'll updated after my visit this week.

  • guitarGrl
    guitarGrl Member Posts: 697
    edited March 2008

    ladybug: good luck to your son. Given our location, we see more than our share of young men and women going into horrible situations. Please let him know he is supported 100%.



    susan

  • RN2teach
    RN2teach Member Posts: 312
    edited March 2008

    ladybug: best wishes to your son. Keep us posted on your treatment plans.

    paula

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2008

    Ladybug,

    Thanking of you...

    Flalady

  • pta0317
    pta0317 Member Posts: 6
    edited March 2008

    OMG 23!!  My daughter is 33, diagnosed also in August of '07.  No family hx on my side, but ovarian, breast in females and prostate cancer in her grandfather on the other side.  She just started radiation last week.  I feel like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.  Stay strong and you're already in my prayers.

  • Indigoblue
    Indigoblue Member Posts: 274
    edited March 2008

    Personally, I don't believe anyone knows anything.  Did anyone else read about all the residule medical watse water which is rarely tested or even discussed among the EPA of the AP?  Discusting information...Insight, not always happy, and knowledge, well what the heck can we do about toxic medicines which will combine with other toxic medicines and disgusting glue in our Drinking Water, crap that will always be there  because it never breaks down, it never resolves, disolves or leaves the water sytems, most of which have never been tested for pharmaceutical poisons and residule leftovers which you are feeding to you children in microwaved plastic bottles every day!  And we wonder, why do we have cancers; how many years has the corpprate chemical establishment been dumping this disgusting combinations of drugs, and who knows what into our water. New York, Cleveland, Houston, Los Angeles, Boston, and think of all the little towns in between; not to mention all the other toxic medical waste flowing from our toilets into the children's milk containers and apples.... you think we are safe?  Please read about water contamination, medical toxic waste and the lacking care or regard for human life.

    Indi

  • dhettish
    dhettish Member Posts: 501
    edited March 2008

    Hello TN Sister,

    Ladybug, I will say a special prayer for your son. My nephew returned safe and sound from Iraq after one year in the Marines there.

    I had my last round of Taxotere! Yeah! Muga was a 73. It was 75 prior to chemo. All my SE (edema, fatigue, breathlessness, and muscle weakness) is getting slightly better! I feel great but I know I still have SE from this round to get through. But that light at the end of the tunnel is getting bright. I cannot believe I have come this far. 3 weeks ago, I swore I would never take another tx and then I was begging to get my last tx. The last 8 months have definity beat any roller coast ride I have ridden.

    Thanks to all who share. I enjoy hearing about survival stories without recurrence. I enjoy the shares about mets and to know that you don't give up and are still able to fight.

    I agree we shouldn't all have to be positive with our shares when we are having a down day. I try to stay positive with all my non cancer friends, but I cry and moan to my cancer friend just as she does to me. Funny our bad days and good days seem to coincide.

    I am not sure what my onc has in store for me. She was out today with the flu, but I plan on asking for pet scan, colonscopy, pelvic u/s (I have ovarian cysts) and every test available just to be sure. I will fight for the tests I want. I am grade III and she has stressed how agressive my cancer was so I think it is necessary. Glad to hear that those who are getting on have less fear. I feel like now that chemo is over, I am kind of free falling. 

    I had recently heard some horror stories about reconstruction but decided not to let them get to me. I just will not rush into it as I had planned. I am going to let my body heal and let it tell me when I am ready. I was hoping to start the process in mid April but it may be more like Aug/Sept. I want to be in optimal health or as best I can be.

    Well, I also had my pre-chemo decadron pills and my IV decadron so I am WIRED and eating. I took a Xanax but am still wide awake. Guess, I'll try to read for awhile. 400 channels and nothing on TV. Too wired to do any crafting. And I don't think my husband would appreciate hearing the washing macine and vacuum cleaner at 12am.

    I hope all  of you have a good day tomorrow. To those having it rough, hang on. I felt like H*ll all last week but great this week. This too shall pass.

    Also, as for survival rates, I don't worry. What are my survival rates everytime I get in car and drive the 65 miles to my onc? Crazy Nashville traffic scares me more than cancer on some days.

    Take care 

    Debbie 

  • RN2teach
    RN2teach Member Posts: 312
    edited March 2008

    Good morning TNs,

    Have a respiratory bug and didn't sleep much last night. Had to go in to onco for blood work yesterday as fever hit 101 and major chills. My WBC were low, but not too low for my chemo on Friday (round 1 of Taxol). Had a chest xray and NP swab (now THAT was fun...NOT!)and started on an anti-infective drug. Feel pretty good this morning, all things considered...

    pta- 33 is too young to have to face BC. I am 46 and my mother has expressed to me how difficult it is for her to see me going thru this. I haven't felt up to making the local BC support group meetings yet, but I plan to bring her with me when I get there. (((HUGS)))

    Indi- you are right--our world is full of toxins. I live in country near a small town. In our little hollow ("holler" for us WV folks) there are so many with cancer... My dh was dx w/ brain cancer in 2006 (so far NED since tx) and now me w/ BC...

    Debbie- congrats on finishing Taxotere!!! Is that your last chemo? I'm with you on pushing for testing after we're finished w/ tx.

    You tickled me w/ your comments about the steroid "high" Guess I'm going to be there soon!

    To all of my TN sisters: hang in there and take care of yourselves.

    Paula

  • dancer51
    dancer51 Member Posts: 47
    edited March 2008

    Hey Everyone, 

    I'm a TN and have had one treatment of AC+T and had a terrible time.  I also disliked the center I was in.  I changed centers and start on Mon.  The Onc is going to change up the regiment and give 3 more AC and then 4 taxol instead of taxatere.  He thinks I'll do better with this.  I sure hope so.  Right now I'm experiencing some stomach problems, like morning sickness.  I'm not coping well with this whole thing.  I found a support group and went last night.  This was a good thing for me and I'm hoping to get involved with Yoga on Sat. mornings.  Notice I said hoping!!!  I congradulate all who have finished their chemo.  I can't wait to get there.  I hate this!  I hate this! I hate this! 

  • wvgirl
    wvgirl Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2008

    Hi there,

    I have been away for about a week. Been real tired. It's all I can do to make it through the work day. Thank God I have a desk job.

    Deb You are so right about survival. God gives you 1 day at a time. You have to make the best out of each and everyday of your life. Cherish each day as a blessing..Don't thing of the negative often.

    Paula I have went to 2 support group meetings. I really enjoyed them. You meet a lot of wonderful people. I finally got in touch with my Clinical Trial Nurse today. She gave me the # to call about the Conference I will pm you as soon as I know more.

    Indi-you are right about toxins. In the past 3 years there has been 4 people dx with cancer within a 2 mile raids of my former home. Two with BC 1 with lymph node and 1 with tumor on kidney. This is not to mention the other 12 to 15 that passed away with cancer.

    At the support group meeting I told someone I will be starting on A/C the 23rd she referred to it as the Red Devil-Oh gee I got 4 of them to go. :-(

  • HeatherBLocklear
    HeatherBLocklear Member Posts: 1,370
    edited March 2008

    Hi all,

    I've been posting just about everywhere (worried, just diagnosed, Stage III, etc.), but felt I needed to come "home" to the triple neg page. Hope I'm welcome.

    I've been reading your posts and am impressed all over again with the courage of everyone here. What a bunch of brave, inspirational women! In some ways it makes me embarrassed because I've been feeling a bit sorry for myself, as well as worried about whether or not I'm getting the best treatment (clinical trials are always fraught with different possiblities).

    WVAgal, I read with interest that you have completed four courses of Taxotere and are getting ready to do A/C. I wonder if you are on the B-40 clinial trial too? I think it's unusual to start off with the Taxotere and then go to the A/C rather than the other way around. Can anyone shed any light on this? Also, how have you managed personally? Are your SEs livable?

    Again, I hope I'm not intruding. I need to find a place where I can connect with others who have the same diagnosis as me. By the way, I'm attaching a link to the abstract for an article about triple negative which gave me great hope after I had read (like many of you) one discouraging study after another. It's two years out of date already, and my oncie says great strides have been made even in that short a period of time.

    http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/295/14/1658

    Hugs to all,

    Annie

  • RN2teach
    RN2teach Member Posts: 312
    edited March 2008

    Hey there, Annie, and welcome! I've seen your pretty pic on other threads (your little girl is a cutie!). Thanks for the link to the abstract. There were several interesting articles referenced as well.

    Dancer- hang in there. My onco and I discussed doing all 3 together, but we ended up choosing AC x 4, then Taxol x 4. I have completed my AC and tolerated them pretty well, I think. Missed work 1/2 day on Friday for treatment and 1/2 day on Monday cause I was feeling a little slow yet. I start my Taxol tomorrow. So far, so good.

    Paula

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2008

    Ok... Ladies here is my latest greatest news....

    The two tumors in my armpits are gone??? Where to... no one knows.  But I just glad their gone.  My doc always shows me my Pet Scans on the computer, so he when slowly through the pictures to show me that they where gone.  YES! (Have not had chemo in 8 mths because of my server neuropathy.)

    OK...now the bad news.  I have a new tumor on my right chest wall deep in my chest next to a rib.  He said that he was speaking without checking, but he would like to take me in front of the tumor board at my clinic and see if they could refer me to another clinic in my state that would use a Gamma Knife and cut it out.  He said he would like to do this quick because the tumor is near my rib and lung. He hope to get it approved again because of my neuropathy, I can not do chemo.

    His meeting is today 3/14 and than he has to get it approved with insurance and fine the best doctor.  I hope we can do this.  He again point blank said, he has NO chemo that can cure my cancer.  Just lovely to hear... He did say that he is using the new chemo Ixempra (sp?) with good results.  Again he got approved to use it outside of a trial.

    Thanks for all the support will let you know what I find out.

    Living in hope,

    FlaLady

  • HollyHopes
    HollyHopes Member Posts: 497
    edited March 2008

    hi everyone...feeling like it's a good sign for me that i am not posting every five minutes on here like i used to do during the worst of things...i do read everything though at least a few times a week. i even had a moment last week when i forgto that i had had breast cancer!  a group at work was sitting around talking about health things and i said - thank goodness i've always been healthy..they all looked at me like i had three heads!  i remembered quickly and said, "oh yeah -except for that pesky breast cancer!"

  • wvgirl
    wvgirl Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2008

    Monday -Flowers were delivered to me at work ! There was 1/2 roses, they were Tye dyed colors. Very beautiful they were from my co workers note said just to brighten your day.

    Then today when I got back from lunch there was a poem in a frame on my desk, It brought tears to my eyes. I was told that someone in the office wrote it and ask this person to type it up for them. Gave them a frame and told them to put in on my desk.

    Ok gals grab a tissue here it is:

    Life on Earth

    Life on earth is a journey that we all must travel....

    For reasons unknown, some are given a road that is paved

    with others are presented one that is gravel

    For those who are traveling the paved

    life on earth seems to be so much smother

    and the ones traveling on the gravel

    seem to have a lot more hills and curves to maneuver

    No matter what road you are dealt, it is all in what you make it

    Paved roads seems to be more easy...and you tend to go too fast..

    Gravel roads are rough as hell at times,but it makes you slow down and enjoy the things that others have passed

    Family and friends are the most important things you will ecounter

    as you go through the years

    Take it slow and enjoy life...with lots of laughs and smiles

    and no so many tears

    Life on Earth is a journey we all must travel

    and its knowing friends like YOU that make me glad to be one on the gavel road.

    I promise to check back in later and check on everyone gf called and invited me over for dinner.

  • wvgirl
    wvgirl Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2008

    Annie

    Yes sounds like the same trial.

    I was randonized into the Standard Group which means I will be treated as any regular bc patient.

    I managed pretty well on the taxotere

    Few se's (thank god)

    I have had several crying spells. The DH says is pouting ! But alot of it has nothing at all to do with the chemo.

    Thanks for the link and the informaton

  • dhettish
    dhettish Member Posts: 501
    edited March 2008

    You know my onc said I had a 30% chance of mets. Freaked me out. But today I was watching the weather. When they say 30% chance of rain, we never get it. So I feel better.

    Debbie 

  • RN2teach
    RN2teach Member Posts: 312
    edited March 2008

    FlaLady- you are in my prayers. Hope things move quickly and you get that tumor gamma knifed outta there! ((HUGS))

    Holly- Good for you! You're living your life. I know we have to be alert and monitor ourselves carefully (dang tri-neg), but I think we all want to get to a place where BC isn't the biggest thing in our lives... glad you're there!

    Debbie- I was given 20% chance... was not happy since most of the BC survivors I know are given around 5% chance of recurrence. I was like a kid who got the "bad" toy for Christmas--I wanna 5% chance... I don't want 20%. LOL

    Finally I put it into perspective a little-- 1 in 5... every woman has a 1 in 8 chance of developing BC... as we age that chance increases to 1 in 6. So my 1 in 5 isn't SO much greater than the average.

    Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

    I'm sidelined a bit today-- not sure how much is from my first dose of Taxol and how much is left over from the virus I have had. I'm sore from head to toe.

    Have a good Sunday, everyone!

    Paula

  • HeatherBLocklear
    HeatherBLocklear Member Posts: 1,370
    edited March 2008

    Dear Paula -- hope you feel better. Take it easy today; have DH take care of you.

    Love,

    Annie

  • lisamed123
    lisamed123 Member Posts: 186
    edited March 2008

    HI, Last Thursday was the first time the drs. used the words "triple negative". I did not even look it up until Saturday.  I am now freaking out.  Since being diagnosed I have corresponded with so many people who had surgery, and treatment and go on to live the rest of their lives, that I just assumed that is what would happen to me.

    I did have a bi-lateral mastectomy on Wed., March 5.  There were two tumors, 1.4 cem and 1.8 cem., but 10 out of 21 nodes were affected.  I am completely befuddled by reading how large other people's tumors were, but no node involvement.  I have not met with an oncologist yet.  I am calling this morning to make an appointment.  The surgeon has indicated I will need chemo and radiation.

    My mammogram in December showed calcifications, I did have a mammogram in June and exam by dr. and nothing was noticed.

    I was borderline hysterical until I started reading stories here of survivors of this type.  I had such a great attitude and outlook until I read abut the low survival rate.

    Does anyone know if being in shape helps with survival?  About 3 years ago a lost 40 lbs and am within normal weight range and have been working out regularly for about a year.  I will probably start working out again next week.  I am 42 years old.

    I guess I am just looking for some hope

    Thanks.  Lisa

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