So... what do you think about Mr. Spitzer's escapes?!?!

a high profile politician is caught after having relationships with prostitutes

his wife stands next to him on the stage when he resigns

everyone in the entire world is making judgements about her, her motives, her feelings, her character, when God only knows what she is REALLY thinking or feeling

This is EXACTLY why she is also a victim (along with their kids).

I agree with Shokk, the whole thing is sad. 

I think he is a stupid jerk, regardless of any speculation anywhere that this affair might have been by consent or agreement of his wife, and regardless of what went on in their marriage.

I thought Shokk's analogy was a good one.  If I found out my husband had been cheating on me, the shock would be far greater than finding out I had breast cancer.  It would mean that I had misplaced my trust in the person with whom I am closest in this world.  My entire judgment and beliefs would be called into question.  My breast is just one part of me, and not by a long shot the most important part, and since I'm one of those people who don't believe that we bring on our own illnesses--just luck of the draw (beyond smoking, of course), finding out it was diseased did not totally rock my life.  My husband cheating on me--I don't know how I would survive.  My greatest and deepest sympathy is with Mrs. Spitzer and I would never presume to judge her.

mke,

You make a really good point about "damage control".  Damage control has a huge amount to do with why the wife stands on stage with a political husband who is resigning because of scandal, regardless of what she may really think and feel, or want to do.   That is exactly what political families do in these circumstances, and the real feelings are dealt with in private, as much as possible.  It is unfair that the public judges the wife negatively because she stands on stage with him.  This is all a part of the wife being a victim.   

I really do understand that breast cancer can and has brought all of us to our knees.......but you know as far as I know when my daughters had to go to their teachers and friends and tell them I was sick I really don't think that they were made fun of..........having your dad's personal life plaster all over tv and the joke of late night talk shows must be so humiliating..........especially girls because we all know how we can treat each other.........if those girls had to go to school after their mom had been dx with breast cancer and it had made the news I don't think they would have any thing to be ashame of or having to listen to classmates repeat the late night talk show top ten list......and Marsha having to hear that I had breast cancer was not even comparable to having to sit down with my two girls and tell them I had breast cancer..it is the worse thing I have ever had to do..........imho...........Shokk

Maybe so.........I have had a cheating husband and breast cancer and I think your right as far as I'm concern the breast cancer has been worse over all but maybe that's because my marriage was over and the wound of finding out my husband was cheating (his girlfriend called me on the phone) was a few years old but I still had the same feeling of realizing that everything I thought was true was a lie.......that a person that I trusted and loved had betrayed me........felt exactly the same way about my breast when then found the cancer........Shokk

Marsha you made me smile for the first time today.......thanks..........Shokk

Don't know if anyone saw Dana McGreevy on Larry King Live two nights ago but must admit she appears to be one class act........Naughty I am going to see if I can pick up her book at lunch.............I think as far as the young lady that has been caught up in the sting and living in that expensive apartment I would just chalk that up to immaturity.........if she is making a couple of thousand a hour to lay on her back or stomach or whatever she is thinking she can afford that apartment and probably not thinking she has anything to worry about.........I certainly think that Spitzer is the one that of course will end up paying the biggest price for his own eccentric narcissistic behavior as well he should............if I am not mistaken Mrs. Spitzer is an attorney as well......didn't they meet in law school?...............don't know if her license is current but I think she is capable of returning to practice law if she needs too.........but I have a feeling that she will not stay married...........Shokk

I don't think use of the word ho is ever appropriate-- no matter how much money the prostitute is being paid. It's a degrading word to women. I don't know of the word ever being used for male prostitutes. I don't know if there are a lot of high priced "call guys" like there are call girls, but do know there are a lot of male prostitutes walking the streets. Not my area of expertise . I think there's a double standard for men and women when it comes to promiscuity, guys are often called studs for their sexual conquests and women sluts. I was never said or meant to insinuate that you called Hillary a bitch and I'm sorry if you thought I accused you of that. I was just remarking that some people have used the word and some have called out people for using it.

I have read parts of dina's book as well as Jim's. I read them in the book store-- didn't purchase them-- sometimes I go for a few hrs just to read books I don't want to buy. I am much more turned off by Dina-- the amount of money she requested for child support and how she has tried to keep their daughter from seeing Jim. I imagine she's still hurt. I have a lot more empathy for Jim because he wasn't raised in a family or church where he felt comfortable to come out and the shame that he lived with because of it.

GSG, I'm with you on legalizing prostitution-- it would only benefit the women and men who make their living that way. I visited Holland when I was 8 or 9 and one of my most vivid memories is the prostitutes standing in the store fronts, looking for work. I wasn't allowed to take pictures, even though I wanted to capture the moment.  I didn't even understand what hookers were, just women who got paid to have sex which didn't even make sense to me.

I'm with you althea, I was stunned by the hypocrisy. And I too got the impression that he was just sorry he got caught. I don't feel sorry for him one bit. He's an adult. Since he's been prosecuting prostitution rings all along, he knew what he was getting into. He knew the laws and which ones he was breaking. He knew that it was a federal crime to move a prostitute across a state line--even if the law was on the books from years ago and meant to control organized crime. He knew that by paying with small amounts of money that kept it from looking like he was spending as much as he was on this little evening activity that he was operating surreptitiously.

What a loser.



I think it will take her some time to recover from this. I hope she is able to help her girls get through this horrible ordeal. That he would subject them to this is unbelievable. That he would break his marriage vows and subject his loved ones to this hummiliation is beyond reason.



If he was lonely, or felt his wife didn't understand him, or he needed to talk to someone about his feelings, he could have easily seen a therapist for a lot less money. Perhaps part of what takes place for him, either in the courts or however his wife decides to deal with him, is that he should go to counseling.



Something is seriously wrong inside his little head. Why do some men think with what they got below the waist instead of above?

i agree about the hypocrisy...i felt badly for senator craig and his situation, but was really aggravated that he had been so vocally against gay rights.  i'm also aggravated by the hypocrisy of those on the right who called for spitzer's resignation, but had remained mum when senator vitter was discovered to have used the services of a call girl service.  this should not be a democratic or republican issue.

i don't care what any of them do in their personal lives sexually, as long as the sex is consensual and with someone who is of legal age, but when they hold public office, they do open themselves up to blackmail with this sort of thing and i wonder about their judgment in that regard.

I don't think about Mr. Spitzer at all.  I think about Bear Stearns and the people who lost a lot of money there.  I think about the CEO of Countrywide who walked away from the sinking ship with 150+ million.  And I wonder what the hell is going on. 

But then I wonder that a lot, much of the world doesn't make sense to me.