Help me to help my wife....
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Thank you all for your support. Yes, I have screamed and cried with the nurses.
Mailman, I have a story for you...Deb's 8th grade nun, is now a lay chaplain, she has been a great comfort to Deb through all of this. She came to counsel me and asked if I had a plan, I stated out ok and told her my version of how I believe I can get through it. Towards the end of my story to her, I lost it...cried for all I was worth. I then composed myself and said to her, Well, THAT is my plan. I then started to laugh and cry while this former sister huged me for the next 5 minutes. Every time I think about how absurd it was to think I had a handle on this, I laugh to myself.
My two older daughters and I (I have told them everthing) were counseled by hospice today. It was a relief to hear that we were on the right course and I felt a great weight off of my shoulders as I unburdened myself to a very special man. I have never had the benefit of any type of therapy but I received a gift today.
We have stopped all testing for Deb, no more needle sticks for glucose checks and insulin (her sugar went up with the decadron). Her liver continues to deteriorate and we are told she is failing, however, she seemed to have a great day today, she chastised me for getting her the wrong nightgown. She ate cookies and sat up for about an hour total and talked to a room full of her loving neices and nephews and other assorted family and friends, not at all what the doctors told me to expect. I am sure that they will be right soon enough.
Thank you all again for your thoughts and kind words and prayers and hugs. They are all a gift to me and my family and I thank you.
Hopefully you will hear from me again tomorrow.
Floyd
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Gentle hugs to you and Debbie, Floyd, and your dear daughters. I wish I could take this pain away from you all!
Take strength from each other in the days to come...
Hugs
Peggy
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Floyd...blessings to you, Debbie, your family, and all those involved in Debbies' care. In addition to being in remission from st 4 BC, I'm a nurse, and was a visiting nurse for 15 yrs. I've been involved in many such decision making processes, and have cared for many dying patients. I think from what you've described here, that everything is being done for your wife that should and could be done, and that hospice is the perfect partnership to help you all deal with Debbies' parting from life. Hospice will also be there for you and your girls after Debbie is gone. You will have them to lean on, to talk with, and to get support from in the months to come.
I was present with my siblings and my mother at my fathers' death bed. It was a very difficult thing to witness, but I wouldn't have been anywhere else that day, and it was also beautiful. You need to know that when Debbie has made her transition, you naturally will grieve for her, but I believe that because of the decisions that you're making now, and the love and care that you're providing, you'll be comforted in the days and years to follow, knowing that you did everything for your love that she needed, and that she was cherished throughout. Grief work is what is left when we don't honor what we know to be right, don't say what we feel, don't pay the proper attention, or don't care enough. None of those things apply here, and you and your family will one day be able to put some of the pain of her illness and death behind you, and remember her with love and laughter. Consider yourself hugged.
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Floyd,
Thank you for the update. I am sending my very positive thoughts and prayers to Debbie, you, and your family.
-luckywife
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Floyd I just read your story and the tears were flowing for you and your family. I just had my mastectomy 2 weeks ago and this is still so new to me. I'm so glad I've found this site and chat area. I'm glad to hear your wife had a good visit with family and friends. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers to help your family through this journey you are all on. Sending hugs your way...
Sandy/Sunshine : )
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Thank you again for your comments. The days are getting tougher to go through. I have now told my two younger girls, 17 and 12 that their mother is in immenent danger. Needless to say, they didn't take it well. I will live with this day and this decision for the rest of my life. There is so much turbulence related to all of this, I have been pulled in to so much anquish and despair and bickering among all of us who have felt Debs love and who loved her back. I only want to do the best thing for her. I fear that I will loose my focus and let the people who for some reason think that they should have a strong opionion have things their way. I do know what to do. I am just venting. Yesterday was the roughest day of my life. I am sure it will get worse.
After all of the family problems, the nurses were fumbling with her morphine pump. It was obvious that they had no idea what they were doing. I ordered them to leave the room and demanded to see the nurse supervisor. The hospice nurse was with me and I described the problem to her. She said she would call the doctor and left us alone. I thought she would stay and help us resolve the problem. It took two hours to get another device to provide morphine to Deb. It was a nightmare. When I left she was again peaceful. She is more sullen and detached each day.
I hope for a better today.
Please pray for us.
Floyd
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Oh, Floyd! I am so sorry! I am sure Debbie knows you are doing your best and want it to be the best thing for her. I can only imagine how difficult it is for you right now and want you to know that I am still praying for you like crazy!
As for the morphine pump, there is no excuse for how you and Debbie were treated. Can you talk to her oncologist or whoever is the admitting physician and maybe get a direct-line phone number from them in case there are more problems like this one? When I was hospitalized, I found that there was a vast range of abilities in the nursing staff. I am adding prayers that you and Debbie will only have the best from now on. Hopefully, you will get a chance to talk to a nurse who is at the top of her game and she can have some advice for you how to get things done. Having to fight to get proper pain control is something you shouldn't have to be doing. I am angry and outraged for you.
Much love and many prayers,
Diane
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Debbie ... I am praying for peace and pain free times...and I am holding all of you close...xxx
(((Debbbie & Floyd)))... I am so sorry for the recent upset..I hope today is better in terms of pain xxx
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Dear Floyd, my heart goes out to you and your family. I am so glad that you are using hospice and that you have clergy to help you with this. I used hospice for both of my parents. My mother passed away at home from lung and panratic cancer with my dad and a home health nurse. She was 79 and refused additional treatment as she had had cancer 3 previous times with 10 years between each. It broke my heart to see my dad as he fought to hold on to her. They were married 50 years. My dad continued to use Hospice resources after my moms passing as he realized that he had a great deal of anger and pain and Hospice was able to help him deal with it. When he knew he was passing he set up the Hospice for himself so that I would not have to make the decision. I guess it comes down to the quality of life vs the lenght of life. No one can make that decision for you but know that you are in the hearts and prayers of all us.
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Thank you for all the support you have shown my family and me.
Debbie fell into a peaceful sleep to be with god, surrounded by people who truly loved her. The sun was beaming in the window, Billy Joel,her favorite was played softly. The room smelled beautifully from all the flowers sent to her by loving friends and family. A soft breeze came through the open window and I was holding her hand and telling her how much I truly loved her and promised her to be there as she would for our four daughters.
I have heard that this time could be beautiful. It really was. I was amazed I felt that way. I no longer have the stress of her being ill and in pain. I don't worry about her any longer. She will be in my heart forever.
Thanks again for being an extended family for me. I will lurk for awhile to help support others in my position. You all were there for me and I felt the love and support.
Peace and Love
Floyd
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Floyd, I'm so sad. But she's home with the Lord now, where there's no sickness and pain. God bless you and comfort you.
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wishing your family peace and strength, how strong you are to come here to let us know, prayers for you all
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Floyd,
You are an amazing husband and father. I pray for your strength in the time ahead. I pray Debbie rests peacefully. And, I pray for your children. They are lucky to have a father as thoughtful and caring as you.
God be with you.
Hugs, Jackie
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Floyd,
I am so sad that your Debbie is gone.My continued prayers to you and your girls.
(((HUGS)))
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Floyd, so sorry for your loss. Prayers to you and your family.
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Dear Floyd,
My deepest sympathy to you and your family. I am glad that her passing was peaceful and beautiful. I know she now walks with God and will be a guardian angel for you and your daughters.
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Floyd.......may our Lord comfort you and your family at this time and in the days ahead. You've done your best. How beautiful your last moments with her here........till you meet again in God's place.
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Floyd,
So sorry to hear of Debbie's passing. My heart goes out to you and your family. Thoughts and prayers are with you all...
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My heart goes out to your entire family and friends. I'm glad to hear my sunshine rays I sent made it your way
Sandy/Sunshine : )
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Floyd,
Thank you for sharing your difficult journey with us. Debie is with God now and that is a big loss. I am praying for comfort and peace for you and your family.
You mentioned something about leaving bc board now soon. I for one would like to get your feedback on how hospice works, what worked for you and what didn't(never hear much about this) etc. only when you feel upto it. So don't plan on logging off yet. We need your input (no hurry..when you feel upto it).
Take care.
-luckywife
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Luckywife,
It seems that the more I do now and the more I talk about things, I am distracted by the reality and the weight of my life now.
I am happy to tell you what I know if it would give you knowledge about how these things work.
The best part about Hopsice was that the counselor was a gift. He told us that what we were doing and how we were feeling was the right things. He told my daughter who is a junior in college that if there was any excuse to miss school, there is no better one than this. He told my older daughter who half wanted to return to her life in Virginia, that she should go, but to make peace with her mom because she would probably not see her again, he told her how and she did. My daughter is at peace with the way that happened, I would not have been able to give her that. He told me how and when to tell my two youngest, 12 and 17. I did and yesterday they thanked me for not telling them earlier as they would have not been able to handle it. They found out the night before their mom died and it seemed for them, the right time to know. For me, he told me that I would never understand the why's and hows, but to find strength in the children and keep Debbies love in my heart. So far, it has worked and given us the boost we needed to get to this point.
Hospice for Debbie was a bit of a different story. I am sure that in a home setting, Hospice is a godsend. I am not sure that there is a true understanding between the hospital and Hospice exactly what the role of the Hospice nurse in the hospital setting is. I was told that they would review the charts and make recommendations about pain meds. They did. I don't know how much they were able to help as much of that discussion took place away from my sight. A hospice nurse told me that because that there were so many people in Debs room that whe would not let go due to the overstimulation. I told her that Deb and I lived closely with our family and that we would not have it any other way. When the time came, Deb was only with me and two of her favorite people. I was told whe didn't want to pass in front of her kids. They were right. We only had Hospice for about a week so I really don't know all they do. My freind recently lost her mother and she told me how wonderful they were with them during and after her passing.
I called hospice because I didn't know how to do this part. I didn't want to make mistakes and cause more grief than we already have. They have the knowledge and the experience to guide us and I believe that they did that well.
I hope that this helps you in some way. I pray for you and for your family. I hope that you can feel their love as Deb did, and draw stength and hope from that.
I said I will lurk as it gives me a place to go. Thanks for asking.
With love and hope,
Floyd
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Floyd, so sad to hear of your wife's passing. You were there for her and she knew that. Fists up!
Dx 9/20/2005, IDC, 6cm+, Stage IIIa, Grade 2, 2/14 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ -
Floyd, my deepest sympathy to you and your family. Thankyou for sharing such an intimate time in your life. You have displayed such tremendous courage and grace. No regrets dear man. Hugs.
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Floyd, I'd like to add my sympathy as well, and I'm glad you were able to have a peaceful resolution and that Debbie is now free from any discomfort. I hope that you and your daughters will be able to enjoy wonderful memories of her. Thanks so much for sharing this with us - we're all keeping you in our thoughts.
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I am very sorry to hear about your loss. I am not able to relate to losing a loved in such a way but honor the way you and your family handled the situation. God be with you
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Floyd,
I am so sorry to hear your wife passed. My MIL also passed on Sunday, March 9 from advanced breast cancer. Even though we knew it was going to happen (once she got hospice involved), it happened a lot quicker than anyone expected. It was a blessing for her as she had suffered a lot but it's still a very difficult time and we miss her terribly.
My heart goes out to you and you know that Deb is in a better place where there is no pain and suffering.
Hugs and prayers
Linda - PA
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Linda, I am deeply sorry for your loss. For my
Debbie, the last part was relatively quick as well. I hope your family is as supportive as mine. They have all come together and have supported us tremedously.
We made our final goodbyes, as Deb was laid to rest. She was a middle school teacher and as a tribute the district teachers were bused to the funeral. The church was standing room only and the Preist said that it was a record crowd for a funeral. It should have been no other way.
The girls and I are trying to figure out what to do next. I am trying to get them to return to their schools and their lives.
Thank you for your support and prayers.
Floyd
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Floyd,
I am glad that Deb's services were such a statement about how many lives she touched. I hope you received some encouragement. You and your girls continue to be in my thoughts and prayers.
(((((HUGS)))))
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Floyd,
May the comfort of God be with you and family in the coming days.
You will all be in my prayers.
((((((Cody))))))
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Floyd, my deepest sympathy to you and your daughters,
Ann
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