Herceptin? Good news?
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Hi, I am writing for my mom. Her liver biopsy came back today and it showed her lesions to be ER/PR/Her2+++. She is going to start herceptin next week. Am I under the false impression that this sounds like a miracle drug? From everything I am reading it seems to work for many people. My mom was dx 10/07 with stage 4 bc with mets to lung, bone, and liver. She has been on abraxane/gemzar. Her last scan showed great improvement in the bone and lung but increased tumors in her liver. She will continue with the abraxane and add the herceptin with scans in about 6 weeks to see if that helps. Originally in 10/07 when the mediastinal nodes were biopsied they showed triple negative, her first bc in 2001 was ER/PR+, Her2-. This sounds like good news to me? Her oncologist was happy with the liver biopsy results. I just don't want to have false hope. Any comments greatly appreciated.
Kristi
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Hi Kristi-
I was DX last September. I am on Herceptin. I have not been DX with mets and pray that I wont be. I have an MRI scheduled soon. But, from what I hear Herceptin is supposed to be the miracle drug for those with HER2+ . I lost my mom to bc ten years ago. She had mets to lung and bone. I wish Herceptin was around then. I understand it has helped several women with mets. Hopefully, some will share their experience. Good luck to you and your family.
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Kristi, for some women Herceptin has been a miracle drug. I read an article that one women has been on it for 10 years with liver mets.
If your mom responds well and her heart can tolerate it! YES!! it could be. Also, she can try tykerb. Another similar drug.
Yes, there is a ton of hope for your mom.
Janis
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Kristi,
When my liver mets were at their worst, I had a 9cm tumor, plus numerous 2cm tumors throughout my liver. I went on Gemzar and Herceptin, and in 9 months, or 14 treatments, my liver went into remission. I have continued on Herceptin alone and have been in remission now for over 3 1/2 years. My remission longevity is absolutely because of Herceptin! My heart ejection fraction has actually increased with my last echo-to between 55-60. I will be on Herceptin for life-my miracle.
Denise
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Thanks to each of you for your responses. I appreciate it. I will copy these for my mom.
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Herceptin is a miracle drug for many people. Unfortunately, only three months of Herceptin hurt my heart terribly. I started cancer treatment with an EF of 67% in March '07. When my echo was done in August '07, my EF had taken a huge plunge to 33%. I was taken off Herceptin immediately.
Now, over six months later, my heart is essentially unimproved. So here I sit in a very precarious position. I know if I get any spread, I'll be unable to take Herceptin or Tykerb. I also know that my heart condition is my most serious health issue presently.
Herceptin is a miracle drug, but it's a real heartbreaker to those who need it and cannot tolerate it. I don't mean to be a downer, I just think we all need to be aware of problems to watch for. I truly am thrilled that women with mets live for years and years that previously would have been lost.
Best wishes,
Miss S
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Miss S,
My heart goes out to you. Know that we're all in this together through the hopeful times .and the bummers
Henny -
Thank you, Henny. The wonderful ladies (and occasional brave man hee!) here have been so helpful through all of this. This entire experience has been tenfold easier because of you all. I hold you all dear and hopefully we'll keep helping each other for many years to come!
Miss S
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Miss S,
I have about the same situation that you have. My EF was 61 and dropped to 51. My oncologist encouraged me to take Herceptin . He told me that there are drugs for cardiac failure but cancer can be deadly. But I wanted quality of life not just quantity. So after 12 weeks of Herceptin I opted to stop. I had flu like symptoms and my heart was getting weaker, faster. My oncologist did tell me that the one year of Herceptin dosing is still just a guideline. That there are no long term statistics yet to prove if a year is too long or if 12 weeks would work as well. So I guess we will just have to keep hoping that the Herceptin we got will be enough.
I am sorry your heart is not rebounding. I feel like my heart has improved even without having had another MUGA to know how much. I was diagnosed and treated a little earlier than you were so maybe you will improve more also. I hope so. I finished my Herceptin in late Sept. 06. And don't count Tykerb out just yet. You know it works on the inside the cells instead of the cell wall so maybe it won't be as hard to tolerate as the Herceptin.
Best wishes in beating this
MarciaA.
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Hi Marcia,
Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad you feel like your heart is getting better. I think it is easier for the heart to rebound from a 10 digit drop than a 30 digit drop. I actually had a heart attack, as well, so the entire bottom of my heart is not really doing anything (my cardiologist's words).
I'm going to start swimming soon, so hopefully the exercise will benefit my heart. I have not given up hope.
I am shocked a doctor would tell you not to worry about your heart (essentially). If you die from a heart attack, it's not going to matter if you have cancer.
In the Herceptin trials, I believe they discontinued use if there was a drop of 15 or more, so you still fall into a safe category. It is difficult to know what to do. Of course, my stage was progressed enough that no one really gave me a choice. I would not have refused herceptin, to be sure.
Maybe 12 weeks of Herceptin is enough and we will both be okay. Only the Lord knows.
Best wishes and God Bless,
Miss S
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Those of you having heart trouble with herceptin, have you had a consult with a cardiologist?
I have been taking it for almost 2 years (June 1). I had liver mets.
I pray that I too will be still taking it in 10 years...
Janna
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Janna,
What was your EF when you started herceptin? My mom is 40-50%, from what I am told that is low normal. I am just wondering how long she will be able to tolerate herceptin?
Any comments appreciated. thanks,
Kristi
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My onc says usually the reaction to the heart muscles will be within the first few weeks.
there are always exceptions..
jan
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Janna,
Yes, I have a cardiologist I see regularly. I saw him every month until last time. I think he is discouraged that I am not improving. He left me wait four months to go back this time.
I guess I'll always have a cardiologist now, considering I have serious heart problems.
I'm happy that you are able to tolerate Herceptin. It's truly a wonderful breakthrough for HER2+ bc patients. May you live long and be happy while you're doing it!
I should add that I feel pretty good, go to work every day to a job I love, and live life happily! I may be broken, but you can still play with me!
Love to you all,
Miss S
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