Diet pills yes or no?

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Mary-Lou
Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
edited June 2014 in Life After Breast Cancer
Diet pills yes or no?
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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2008

    With weight being such a problem, would you, or have you taken diet pills?

    My girlfriend thinks I should......because I can't seem to wrap my head around eating well enough to lose weight. And I'm very over weight.

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  • Sandra1957
    Sandra1957 Member Posts: 1,701
    edited February 2008

    I took diet pills in my twenties, so did my mom and aunt.  All have had BC, just a coincidence maybe.  Also, lost a cousin at 46 last year to Phen-Fen related heart issues.  Diet pills and unhealthy eating sound like a bad combo to me.  I vote no.

    Have you tried Weight Watchers??  You can eat or drink anything you want as long as you stay within your points.  That and walking has worked wonders for me.  Good luck on your weight loss journey.

    lini

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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2008

    I believe WW is the best plan ever! I just seem to have so much trouble coping with others around me. (HUSBAND)

    I know it sounds like a cop out, but I really have an addiction, and for the first 6 months need to be free from stressing over this weight.

    I have told my husband that if I were a drunk, or did drugs he wouldn't take me to a crack house or bar....????? Would he?

    It is the very same thing .....I just can't give up food and walk away. I will die.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008

    If you were a drunk, you could drink yourself to death or you could work a 12-step program in AA, if you were a crack addict, you could smoke your life away or go to NA. Since you are a food addict, you can eat yourself into your grave or you'll need to find a lifelong way to live with yur addiction. Maybe OA is the answer for you? The 12-step way has saved my life. Maybe it can help you too. Plus, there is amazing support and comradierie in those rooms.

    Good luck, Mary. I know that you are really, really sick of behaving compulsively and you just want to stop doing it. OA just might be worth a try. Alternatively, you could try a therapist or group that specializes in eating disorders.

    ~Marin

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  • Sandra1957
    Sandra1957 Member Posts: 1,701
    edited February 2008

    That's why I put the whole family on WW and made a bet with my husband that I would hit goal before he did (he's competitive).  He lost about 35 lbs.   Even my 13 year slimmed down.  You don't have to give up anything.  We eat it all, just not as much or as often(ie fast food).  I do understand though Mary, I tried in my 20's, 30's, and 40's, but truly didn't succeed until I turned 50 this past year.  I really, really am trying to stay as healthy as I can without giving it all up.  I love food and wine and munching and grazing, but I love my size 6's even more, so I keep on trying to keep it all in balance. And I don't ever want to see the word "obese" on a medical report ever again!!  You'll do it when you're ready.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008

    Lini, size 6?  That's wonderful!

    Mary, I know how hard it is.  Before bc I was eating differently..less..or whatever.  I was losing weight slowly.  I was DETERMINED which made a difference.  Then the big "C" word hit.  I may have gained about three pounds during chemo.  However, it was after chemo that I gained more.  I can't even blame all of it on the AIs because my self-control has flown out the window.  Oh, I still try to be good..no white sauces..no high fat dressing and if that's all available I do the trick of sticking the fork in the dressing and then stab the salad, and other stuff I can control.  But when someone brings in a sweet food now I want to eat it.  I used to say NO.

    I've got to get that will power back!  It really wasn't hard ONCE my brain was in the right place.  And that doesn't mean you can NEVER have a "treat."  Just less of it.

    Oh, I'm with you Mary.  I'm sick of me.  Fitchik has heard me complain for months...years...

    Shirley

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008

    Lini, my daughter has lost weight on WW.  I don't  think she's on it now, but she knows basically how much she can have of what.  It is probably one of the most healthy diets.  If I wanted to really go low carb I'd go with the S. Beach Diet.  Also, Dr. Oz has something going.  I need to check into that.  He says to ONLY cut your calories by 100 each day.  Don't try cutting 500 in one day.  And eating healthy is certainly important as well as exercise. Cry  My treadmill is right behind me. Embarassed  Also, he doesn't believe in diet sweetners, but juices.  Yes, they have sugar, but at least they have nutrients also.

    Oh, such work!

    Shirley

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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2008

    OA maybe something I could look into. I went away this past summer for 2 weeks , lost 11 lbs while I was gone. Did fine, and was happy. Then returned home, only to gain it all back....

    I was big all my life, and when I made up my mind to lose I was able to do it.

    Went one time from 215 lbs to this

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    135 or so.... I was almost 45 in this picture.  Most of me was BOOBS!  I could never lose them no mater what. I went to WW and lost to 119 at 22 years old....still had big boobs.

    I was a size 7....Have been this small a few times. But was 132 lbs in 7th grade.

    I stayed like this when I lived alone, it was easy. NO FOOD IN THE HOUSE....Rule was dress well, hair done, then I could go out. By then didn't feel like eating much. Tight jeans really slow you down. Plus, size 7, and some 5 's made me love the clothes more than the food.

    And I loved veggies. No fast food at all, and the gym everyday no matter what! It was my life style for 2 years!!!!!.

    But I have a hard time doing this when I'm married.

    Now my husband and I have tried to do this together, he always stops as soon as we get to his moms and she pulls out the food.

    And I am never supported either. I have left there in tears when I was doing WW. I even took my own food.

    Just seems like I get put down.

    And my self esteem is on the floor....

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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2008

    Thanks Shirley....

    I also think it is me wanting to go out more too....I danced almost everyday of the week but Sundays. Even after 12 hours at work on some days.

    It is like I came to a screeching halt when I remarried. And I am always around a bunch of fat people. And to top it off I work in food service.

    NOT GOOD AT ALL!

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  • Sandra1957
    Sandra1957 Member Posts: 1,701
    edited February 2008

    Wow, Mary!  I always thought that you were beautiful from your avatar, but "hubba-hubba" GF.  Maybe this issue is about your husband and his insecurities about losing you if you go back to the weight in the picture.  Try to make it all about you and your health (both mind and body), and not the size 7 jeans. 

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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2008

    LOL, he just plain loves me no matter what....he has seen me every size there is from back to 1991.

    He said the other day that he was worried about me.

    I would love to go and do fun stuff, but it cost money, I would love to go back to WW but it cost money, and the gym cost money too.

    My husband works long hours so I'm alone allot. Cancer took all my friends, I don't see them and i can't seem to make new ones like I did. And i know it is because of the weight. I even get treated different at work when I'm fat.

    just not sure why I try so hard to live? When I'm dying inside of this pain in my heart over this weight. Not just a few extra pounds but 100lbs OVERWEIGHT!

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  • Sandra1957
    Sandra1957 Member Posts: 1,701
    edited February 2008

    Sounds like a good guy.  He loves you no matter what, but you also need to love yourself no matter what.  You are beautiful no matter what!!! 

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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2008

    Marin- I understand I could do something for any addiction to help myself. But even if I were a drunk and going to AA, if the people around me brought drinks over and partied at my table in front of me, I doubt I would get very far with treatment.

    I have hard times, like food on TV, going out with family and friends, MIL sending over food. I'm just to weak to avoid it yet. I had to learn this time and time again over my life. It is just so hard the first few months.

    If I could, I would move to another place and just have Michael drop by....that would be a perfect setup for me. But There is no way that could happen.

    BTW, my first diet was at  months old....I only weighed 6 lbs at birth. How sad is that Embarassed

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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2008

    Lini, it is harder now after the BC....My chest looks like a road map, the weight, my age and this expander that feels like a basket ball in my chest. And is as big as one too!.....And the wonderful 50's I heard about.

    And the 3rd grandchild on the way!( Love them)  It is the whole ball of wax. Maybe it is the aftermath of it all. I have no idea....but something has to give...and soon.

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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2008

    My husband is just so happy that I'm still here he can't see straight....He said it was so good to hear me laugh again after my treatments that he cried.

    That touched my heart........he has always told me I am beautiful....as recent as  last night. But I can't see it myself. He says's he loves my heart and the person I am. Fat or thin....

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  • AlaskaDeb
    AlaskaDeb Member Posts: 2,601
    edited February 2008

    MaryL

    I am sending you a BIG hug.  Hon, I have always been fat....not just a bit overweight but fat my whole life.  about 3 years before I had my first daughter I joined WW and lost 75 pounds.  For me it is a mind-set.  I am either on track, or totally off track.  I gained that 75 back and added more weight.

    I have been making slow changes since the first of the year: Keeping a food journal, joining a gym and working out 3 times a week, cutting out the obsessive eating.....all things I KNOW how to do.  It is slowly working.  Even with a week of stress eating last week I am down 19 pounds....slow and steady.

    I would highly recommend a food journal.  For the first week or 10 days don't change anything in your eating if you don't want to.  The only "rule" is that you have to write down everything you eat.  If you eat a hand full of M&M's write it down.  Don't feel like you need to weigh or measure everything...just write it down.  Also write down how you feel when you are eating.  Are you really hungry? Stressed or bored?  Just thinking about it before you eat may start you toward some changes.

    After a week or so pick ONE thing to try a day....like drink 8 glasses of water, or eat 5 servings of veggies in a day.  Make it something you know you can do.  Small successes help you build the confidence to make more small changes.  The weight will start to come off.

    I really do understand how hard it is.  At least once a week I have a day that is totally off track.  I will overeat, or eat food I am not even hungry for....but I just start over again the next day.

    If you need a support system, we can all help each other.

    Hugs

    Deb C

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  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2008

    Thanks Deb!

    I love the NSV...(Non Scale Victory) And I do write things down for a short period of time, then fall back. Really I have been at the same weight for about about 5 years that I know of....within 10 lbs up or down....But can't seem to make it move no matter what for very long.

    Thanks for the support, you can never understand how this is till you live it. Kinda like the non BC peeps out there.

    BTW, how are you girl?

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  • celia088
    celia088 Member Posts: 2,570
    edited February 2008

    Mary, i just PM'd you about this whole issue.

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