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  • Linda-L
    Linda-L Member Posts: 40
    edited February 2008

    I had my second fill almost two weeks ago and it was so much easier than the first.  I couldn't figure it out, then I thought about it and realized that the first fill was a 200% increase (50 cc's to 150 cc's).  The second fill was only a 67% increase.  So I'm going for the third fill (40% increase!) on the 25th.  Then I'll have my radiation.

    I have had my right shoulder freezing up and painful after the surgery and post-surgery recovery.  So I saw my primary care doc and she sent me to physical therapy.  I'm seeing a therapist who's worked with a lot of mastectomy patients.  She worked wonders just in the first hour--I was so tight through my shoulders and chest, not to mention under the arms and across the pecs.  She tells me I should be massaging all around the edge of the expanders to keep them moveable.  (The left one has never moved; the right one not since January.)  That decreases the chances of capsular contracture.  It also makes them more comfortable. 

    Now maybe I was too spaced-out to remember, but I don't remember my PS talking about massage and keeping the expanders loose and moveable.  Did you hear that from your PS?  Did I totally miss out on this?

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited February 2008

    Hi Linda,

    My ps never said anything about massaging the expanders to where they would move around to prevent cc.  In fact, when I brought it up one time, I got the feeling they didn't want me sqeezing them or trying to get the saline to go down to fill up the bottom half which had stayed more unfilled than the top.  I know I always got checked for leaks and I think that is always a ps worry. 

    Honestly I wish I did get an offer for physical therapy but never did. I got muscle relaxants and told to take nice long showers and do those exercises where you walk you fingers up the wall or the other ones where you reach with your right arm and place your right hand on your left shoulder and just hold for a few moments.  Then do the other side.  For me, just emptying the dishwasher and putting the dishes away up on the top shelves was about enough exercise for me!  

    My favorite way to keep my muscles relaxed are long warm/hot showers while I bend over to let the hot water stream over my back muscles with my arms resting on the bench in the shower.  I really use up a lot of the hot water tank, but it feels so good and really helps me.  Once my muscles are real warm and relaxed, then I do the finger walk up the wall of the shower and back down.  Let the water gently spray over your chest too and just stay in there as long as you can.  Probably a long hot bath would work too. 

    Before you start trying to move your expanders around to prevent cc, I'd ask my ps if they approved of it because we never know just what they did when they placed them.  It never hurts to ask I guess.

    Good luck ~ hanna

  • jade56068
    jade56068 Member Posts: 584
    edited February 2008

    Hi

    fast question....Does ins. pay for a "re-due" surg if one is not happy with the exchange????
    j

  • Jani
    Jani Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2008

    Hi Jade:
    That is an excellent question. Does anyone have information on this?
    I do know that it is law in most states if not all, and in Canada that mastectomy and all related reconstructions are covered by insurance, but I do not know how individual insurance companies are allowed to interpret redos. I suppose if there is a loophole...

    I am not sure what happens if the PS thinks it’s a perfectly good job and you think it is unacceptable. But if before hand you clearly told the PS that you wanted to be a C cup and he assured you that he would provide this then it certainly seems that he should hold to that assurance and redo if you are less than the C at no cost to you. If insurance does not cover this then he should. Unless of course he has discovered some physical limitation that prevents the realization of a C cup, in which case you will have to accept the outcome, or get a second opinion.

     My PS assured me that if there is cause to redo or touch-up anything that would be free of charge.

     I think it is a good idea that prior to the exchange each woman talk about the possibility of redo and touch ups. Know what your particular PS's policy is and who pays?

     Also, something that was stated in a previous post about having the PS draw out on a piece of paper what they think the outcome will look like is a really good idea. My PS uses scrap paper and physical props (usually what ever is at hand) to demonstrate. So try anything that helps communication and understanding of your expectations and your PS’s prior to this surgery.

    It was funny the morning of the surgery I was very nervous and had been fretting about everything during the night and when my PS came in to see me I made him sit down and go over the whole thing again, which he was more than willing to do. It just happened that at the end of this conversation I told him that I trusted his expertise and experience and that he should do what he thought best with the idea that the most important thing to me was that it look as natural as possible and secondly that it be around a C/D cup. I believe that this was actually the statement that gave him the freedom to change in mid surgery our previous plan.

    So, in my opinion, clearly describe to your PS your expectations (make sure he/she thinks they are realistic) and then reaffirm them prior to surgery. Talk, talk, and talk to your PS. If he/she is too busy or does not care about your mental well-being or the outcome then you have the wrong PS. You know it is never too late to change! A good PS can step into the process at any point – better earlier than later. Don’t worry about hurting anyones feelings, this story is about YOU.

    Good luck, 

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited February 2008

    My ps drew the diagrams on the back cover of my chart explaining where the alloderm would go and why and how he would do the nipple. Everytime I go in his office I am reminded of his artistic abilities . . not!

    I went into my PS office the first time and just told him that I wanted two boobs that matched. Due to previous surgeries I had mis-matched cup sizes and I just wanted something in-between the 38 a-c cup that I had. He has met the challenge and I am happy with the results. somewhere around a 38-B.

    there are several women on the threads that went to a second or third ps after bad results from the first one until they got the results that they wanted.

    Sheila

  • Jani
    Jani Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2008
    Jean:

    I hope you get your surgery moved up. It is so nice to have it over with. It is true that though there are sensitive areas that need tome to heal it is nothing like those expanders. Yes, there is instant relief!!!! Yes, I do live a long way away. But I have been in contact with my PS over email. I sent him digital pictures after the mast and after each fill, and emails describing how things are going and any questions that come to me. He answers each one within a day. If I haven't emailed him for a while I receive one from him asking how things are going. He has actually been more accessible to me and in closer contact than if I was in the city and had to make appointments every time I wanted to talk to him. Some weeks we have emailed back and forth many times. Over the months I have come to appreciate him so much for always being there and taking the time to answer all my questions.

     

    You know with any luck I will not have to go back for any revisions or anything. But it really bothers me that I had no words to communicate how much gratitude I feel for what he has done for me. Ridding bc from my life forever and giving me beautiful breasts that I can be proud of in clothes and in the bedroom for the rest of my life. At my last check up after surgery all I said was 'thank you'. But as I was saying it I realized that I had just said the same words to the taxi driver when he dropped me off and to the woman who held the elevator for me. How can I thank this person for the incredible impact he has had on my life? Any ideas?

      

  • Jani
    Jani Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2008

    Thanks for your comment Shiela. I really believe that is true. Don't give up. PS's with the right skill can do amazing things. Each one of us has the right to be happy and content with our outcome.

    Hey Shiela, I wrote a post a little while ago about my "first looks at the new me" experience. What was yours like? I am so curious to know how exeriences are similar and different.

    Hey Teri. You better post soon. You need to know that we are thinking about you and are getting worried since we have not heard from you for awhile. We are here for you.

    Jani 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008

    Jani - even if the PS waves any futher charges, to redo anything, I don't think the hopsital will be a accomodating.You can't get a free aspirin or bandaid.

    I haven't reviewed the Federal law in respect to reconstruction in a while, but I believe we are to be returned to a state as close to before as is medically possible. However, I do not believe this places insurance responsible for giving us D's if we were only B's, on the other hand, they maybe be responsible if the other senario is present, we were D's and now no larger than an A or B. 

    Will you be returning for more surgery, i.e., nipples and areolas? 

  • Sharon67
    Sharon67 Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2008

    Hey Ladies,

    Well I just got back from my first follow post-op appointment. I was suppose to have it last Wed., but we had one of our winter wonderland storms last weeks and it is a 350 mile round trip. So Wednesday is Doctor Day and my personal hubbie Dr. takes Wednesdays off now to come with me. Well good news, swelling is down, I didn't tear anything when I fell out of my truck a few days ago, that was why I have been off post for a few days. Monday we had another Ice storm and then it snowed! I went up to the store and when I stepped out of my truck (3/4 ton BIG Dodge Ram) I had my hand on the handle to get out and my foot slipped out and down I went!!!! That ladies is not a good way to stretch!!!! I fotgot to let go and my right arm hung on too long and the rest of me fell, my back hit the running boards first,then boom down goes the butt!!!! Now since I have a Polish Bootie that part of me does not hurt. I'll have to call my mom and thank her for that part of her heritage:) Anyways, he also told me I could go back to work March 5th. It was suppose to be March 3rd but said I should start slow so go back on a Wednesday instead of Monday. I was also warned not to even think about riding a horse until at least May. He said NO bouncing of any kind. So I can go to the gym, but no running on a treadmill or anything else that might make me bounce. I can get rid of the Bra from Hell from the surgery, but have to wear a good sports bra 23/7. At least the girls are free for any hours a day!!!! Anyways, that was pretty much it, everything else is good here.

    Jani, I LOVED your posts, sorry it took so long to respond. I know what you mean when you are trying to express to a doctor how wonderful they have been. I too have a wonderful ps. He sits down and listens and I did the same thing you did, in the end of all the research I finally just said "do to me what you would want done to someone important to you". I mean that's what they do, who am I to tell him how it should be done.  I mean I had the almost A boobs the first time, somehow I don't think I would be comfortable with C'S or D's and he knew this from our first meeting. But how to thank them, that's tough. I mean I give my ps a hug everytime I see him, but it's hard to just say "thank you, to someone who saves your life" I guess you have to just search for something that means something to you, something different, that represents your being or personality. I know that one of husband patients is blind but is a wonderful poet, she wrote him a poem and did it on her computer and had it framed. My husband had performed surgery on her, and she thanked him in the poem and told him how she could now walk again in her garden and smell the life she could not see. It was very moving, and he has it displayed in his office. You would be surprised how a hand written letter instead of an e-mail is so much more appreciated these days.....On another note, if it is not too personal, when are you back from Norway? Is your farm in the states or Canada? How hard it must have been for you to leave but what a wonderful opportunity for you and your family. How does your DH like the boob job!!!!!

    Jean - Well the count down begins.......I love having a law lady in the bunch, it saves me the time of calling my attorney to ask him about bad boob job and can I get them re-done. He's also a personal friend of the family, and jokes that I should be glad I got these without paying for them!!!!!! He also hopes I have my installation crews put together by May for his yard. I don't know if I ever told you guys, but I retired early out of my first business. I had one of the largest commercial flower installation companies in the Detroit Metro area. Me and my girls (7) used to install over 8,000 flats of flowers in the Month of May. People know me as the Flower Lady. I still kept 2 large corporate accounts and the last weeks of May, Me and the old crew still plant about 3,000 flats in 6 days. It's alot of work but alot of fun, we travel all over Michigan, all get a great tan and loose about 10 lbs. I always have leftovers from the greenhouses and do some locals and their businesses. Anyways, that's why I needed to go to the ps today, to find out when I can start working out to get in shape for the "flower week". Well everyone have a great evening....stay warm.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008

    Sharon

    Have you posted that comment ("should be glad I got these without paying for them!!!!!!") on the mean things people say thread?  Sounds like something some one told me, at least I was getting a boob job out of this. I'd rather have my slightly saggy old boobs and NO cancer, than "perky boobs (PS's term) and all the pain and fear that goes along with BC.

  • jdg1
    jdg1 Member Posts: 608
    edited February 2008

    Teri,

    Your exchange will not be much different than the expanders except they will not be as big around and won't be hard.  The pain will not be there either.  I just had my exchange on the 8th and I can now lie on my side.  Which is great being I was only able to lay on my back.  So there is light at the end of the tunnel as far as pain.  I thought that they could only fill to 600cc I may be wrong, but I know I am not a C cup anymore.  I do not fill the bras out so I am  now a B cup.  You are correct also in the fact that your breast will be about the same distance apart as they are now.  If you watch TV look at some of the woman wearing low cut shirts and I am finding most of them have a spread between the breast as well. 

    To everyone going through reconstruction our breasts will never be perfect but we are lucky they are able to do something to make them look as normal as possible.

  • Jani
    Jani Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2008
    Hi June:

    Luckily my permanent implants do not look anything like my expanders did. I would have been very upset if they did. My expanders were filled to 620cc, rock hard and spaced at least 4 fingers between. Had my exchange only 9 days ago. I tried on my old bras last night and found that they are actually a small D - post exchange I am fitting into my old bras nicely as originally one boob was bigger than the other so one was over full and the other was good - now both fit just right. The spacing between my boobs right now is perfect - actually better than the originals which were always spaced somewhat wide. With the expanders I had very noticeable indentations on the upper and middle edge where the expanders ended and the chest began, and the expanders were absurdly large and round. They looked so bad at the end that I could not wear anything but baggy sweatshirts. My family and friends were all looking like, "omg, how is this all going to turn out!" Frankly I was scared too even though my PS was reassuring me that all would be fine. He was right. Roundness, over largeness, concavity around the top and mid edges, riding under my armpits, huge space between, rock solid hardness - all gone! Have to say that I did love my original breasts and do miss them, but I do love the new me too. I plan to post pictures of my progression through all this in a couple weeks when my hubby returns to include current photos.

    Jean, I had the skin, nipple/areola sparing double mastectomy so no, I am done. Now, just the healing process.

    Girls, there is light at the end of this long and difficult ordeal. Hang in there, keep your chin up, and please don’t give up. Be your own advocate and good luck!
  • Jani
    Jani Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2008

    Hi Jean,

    I am such an idiot. For some reason I thought lady4law referred to a policewoman. Nice to know we have an attorney with us. You are right, I am sure that the law refers to returning the woman to a premastectomy state. So from a B to a B makes sense. It is strange that the HMOs have not clamped down on that yet. So do you think that if you were a C before and you end up a B or D and find that unacceptable then the redo should be covered? What about if the size is right but they are uneven, or too far lateral, or something like that?

    My PS said any redo or retouches will be done by him at no cost for his services, but I assumed that hospital/anesthetic costs would still be charged.

    Jani 

  • Marian61627
    Marian61627 Member Posts: 226
    edited February 2008

    Jani,  where are you located? I tried to get a nipple sparing double mastectomy here in Tucson with NO luck!!!!  I know that it is done in San Francisco and was prepared to go there but my primary care physician didn't want me that far from him in case someting went wrong? 

    Best

    Marian

  • jdg1
    jdg1 Member Posts: 608
    edited February 2008

    Jani,

    I have 2 finger space between my breasts.  My final implants were 600cc which look a lot better and feel better than the expanders.  I know what you mean about how they looked at the end.  I was so looking forward to having the exchange done so that I could be more comfortable.  I have said to my PS on two occassions now that I am disappointed that I do not fill out my bras because they actually are a C cup and I now have a little area which i can push in so I had to go to a B cup.  I also took pictures throughout this procees.

    I have pictures already of how mine look if anyone would like to see them just send me your e-mail address and I would be okay with sending them to you.    Remember I am only two wks out from my exchange.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008

    jdg1

    You had 600cc implants and are only a B...I am in trouble. I am 440 now, and will hacve my last fill this afternoon...total 500. I was "suppose" to be a D, like before, but asked my Ps if I could be a "little" smaller. Guess I'll look like Kat e Hudson. Well at least these expanders will be OUT. 

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited February 2008

    Jani,

    Good to hear that the concave deformity is gone. That is what I am most self-conscious about, since I wear a lot of camis and workout tops! I'm filled to 500cc, and plan on a 425 implant.

    My normal breasts had the "wide open spaces" at the sternum/cleavage area. These expanders have a bit more of that space. So if it closes up just a little, I'll be happy.

    Two months left with these hard hooters, then I can get rid of them. I can barely wait!

    Anne

  • Sociologist
    Sociologist Member Posts: 237
    edited February 2008

    Hi Ladies,

    I've been consumed with teaching the online classes and haven't had much time to post or read everything. Hope everyone's doing well.

    Jean, I checked about that. I'm pm'ing you in a sec.

    Sharon: Glad you're on the mend but sorry you slipped. Hope your butt gets better; those bruises really hurt!

    Teri: Glad you're not moving wood anymore and taking it easy. Rest up for the Easter rush will be upon you soon!

    I'm starting therapy Tuesday. I think everything from the last 7 months is hitting me between the eyes! I was in such a funk I called in sick last week (which I rarely do since I only go out to school 2 days a week). The implant just feels weird, like I have a grapefruit on my chest all the time. It looks beautiful and the girls could be twins (except for the no nipple thing) but I'm not loving it. All that pain and I just really like it less and les every day. It's not a pain thing either; that's just mildly annoying like a pimple. I'm in a funk and I need to get out of it. Hopefully the therapist will help. I'll keep yall posted.

    Have a good night!

    Margaret 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008

    Margret, I will be starting PT - ASAP, even prior to the surgery.

    Everyone else you will not believe this my PS did not give me the last fill. He poked around on my "breasts" and said I think we'll stop. (He was poking in the area of my PM and said, it was sticking up a lot...maybe an issue.

    Then he tried to convince me to have silicone, even though I will not be able to have MRIs to check on silent leaks...I said No , and after he left the room his nurse continued to tried and convince me. I was about to start crying and told her I have a PM I don't need, had my breasts removed, only to discover all the BC was removed in the lumpectomy, was told not to have the FLAP but the expanders becasue of RADS, I never had. Now his nurse wants me to cancel this surgery, and have the FLAP done. Gezz....I have had enough. I am about to wait until Summer and have it done it Rome.

  • bobbi
    bobbi Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2008

    Hello everyone.  I just had a bilateral Jan 31 08.  I am in such pain--more like a scaping of the skin.  Today was my first fill and it feels like a person who usually wears a 44 bra being sqeezed into a 32 bra.  Is this normal.  I asked my PS and he said "it is not unusual"  He is not very forthcoming with the answers so I am turning to the experts--You.

  • Sharon67
    Sharon67 Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2008

    Bobbi, Sorry you had to join the group, but you picked a great post of girls for pain advice. Yes, what your are experiencing is quite normal in the beginning of reconstruction. For some us of (myself included) the filling process was not fun. Other's on this sight, just breezed through the whole thing. I had bi-lat mast. on October 16 with recon. at the time of surgery. From Oct until the Beginning of Feb. I went in every other week for fills. I was small chested to start out with (A cup before bc) and when I was fulled expanded I was at 400cc's.  On Feb. 8th I had my exchange surgery and they replaced them with 350 silcone's. I would say I am a small B cup at the moment. Did you ps do your initial fill at the time of surgery? Mine put in 120cc's when they did my bilateral. The best advice I can give you is just relax and do not overdue yourself. We all feel like we can do it all, but in reality, you don't want to make my mistake and do things to quickly. Last week I thought I was doing great a week out of the exchange and ended up praying to Walley World's tolets!!! So please just listen to your body and let people help you even when you think you don't need it.

    Good Luck

    Sharon

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited February 2008

    Hi Bobbi, Feeling tight the night of your fill is typical. Did your doctor give you a prescription for a muscle relaxer?  I was prescribed muscle relaxers to take 1 every 6 hours for the first few days after a fill.  Muscle relaxers can do a good job of relieving the tight discomfort and Ibuprofen with it or something stronger the doctor could prescribe for pain. If you have anything left over from your surgery like hydrocodone or oxycodone, you could take that to help. Skin and muscle are being stretched. 

    After my first post-op fill, I felt so much pressure, I waited outside and thought to myself if it feels this bad now, how will it feel when I'm home?  I thought probably it would feel even worse, so I went back in and asked to have some removed until I could at least take a deep breath.  The PS complied and ever since, I've just gotten doses of between 65cc's and 35cc's.  If you feel like this is just too much and you can't take a full breath or feel very bad pulling across your back or sharp pains, then tomorrow you could go back in and asked to have some taken out.  They can take it out reversing the same way they put it in and you should feel practically instant relief. 

    Tonight, try soaking in a warm bath.  Sleep on lots of soft pillows that help keep you a little elevated.  Next time, maybe suggest you have a lower dose than you had today.  There's no big hurry.

    Good luck, Hanna 

  • denise1956
    denise1956 Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2008

    I will be having touch up surgery some time i believe in early April. I am not happy with some excess skin that is left on my back and above my underarm. At that time he will also do the nipples . So I am hoping that insurance will cover this . I don't see why not. I have to fight with my insurance company every time I put a new claim in. The latest hassle was they coded my mast as part mast and part cosmetic surgery for the anesthesia bill. Are they stupid!!! I will keep you all up to date ...

    Denise

  • denise1956
    denise1956 Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2008

    Margaret,

    So funny I too have this feeling like I have this foreign object in my body with no pain attached to it. Just this annoying grapefruit feeling.When I am lying in bed I do however feel a little sore when I turn on my sides more like tenderness. I am out 5 weeks since my exchange. I had an itch i on the left side breast last night , but when i went to scratch it there was no relief and so numb I couldn't feel the scratching feeling, so how can I feel an itch??? Very bizarre.

    Denise

  • denise1956
    denise1956 Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2008

    Jean,

    Wait, I am so confused after all this time having the expanders filled. He is first now concerned about the pm and wants you to reconsider and have the flap surgery????

    YIKES!!!!!

  • closet-reader
    closet-reader Member Posts: 22
    edited February 2008

    Hello Wonderful Women!

    Marian,

      Regarding the nipple sparing:  I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and both my surgeon and ps agreed to the nipple sparing.  They did inform me of the minimal chance of developing cancer in or around the areola, however seeing that I was having a bilateral mastectomy for prophylactic purposes, I made the personal decision to keep my nipples. 

    It's true many doctors still disagree with this option.

    Jean,

      When you wrote: "I have had enough. I am about to wait until Summer and have it done it Rome.  Where you referring to Rome, Georgia or Rome, Italy? 

    I'm an American-Italian and I have lived in Rome, Italy the "Bel Paese". 

    Big Favor... If you weren't kidding, promise that you'll speak to me before considering having any procedure done in Rome.  I know that I'm offering unsolicited advice, but it's only because I care.

    One more thing, Saline vs. Silicone is a personal decision.  Italian plastic surgeons almost exclusively use silicone implants.  I spoke to one prominent (and arrogant) plastic surgeon in Rome, and he actually scoffed at me when I mentioned the word "saline".  He then lectured me on the fact that no European country had ever banned silicone.  His comment: "Only your country followed such a belief!"

    Italy...A beautiful place to visit....  A very difficult place to live...

  • Sharon67
    Sharon67 Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2008

    Hey Ladies,

    Well I'm still in the disappointment mode with the new boobies. I can't help but look at them and now that the swelling has gone down, I swear I was bigger before the bs surgery. If that is even possible!!!!! Maybe they just have to drop and fill out still, but I really don't see how. The ps put in 350cc and that is just not that big. I guess I will be the first of our group to have that "Kate Hudson" look. Oh well, I'll just have to wait in see, I knew it was going to be to good to be true, to actually have a chest at 40!!!

    Well this was a busy weekend--- One of the boys had hockey all weekend, so it was alot of traveling and 2 games on Saturday and 2 on Sunday, then 3 hours to get back home. I have to tell you, the hardest thing about being a hockey mom these days, is sitting in a cold hockey rink with "the new girls". They get cold real fast!!! I have tried 3 layers and a heavy coat, and still no luck. Once your chest feels like slush puppies, it's hard to get into the games. Maybe I should invent chest warmers for bc patients!!!! Kind of like the toe warmers, only for your bra!!!! Anyone have any ideas??? I still have the month of March for Hockey season to end.

    Has anyone heard from Terri???

    Sharon

  • Teribear
    Teribear Member Posts: 60
    edited February 2008

    Hi Ladies!

    I know i have been gone for awhile but have not forgotten any of you.  I see we have some new company as well. Sorry you have to join us, but glad you are part of our family. 

    Not sure where I left off even.  Sharon, I have not been out in the cold to see how the silicones do, but great idea about a chest warmer!  I am with you.  I am not happy with my size.  I was supposed to see my ps last Monday and they cancelled on me as I was walking out the door.  So, now I see him tomorrow for my post op appt.  I am a small B cup after the swelling has gone down...but I am comfortable at least.  Not much pain anymore.  Able to sleep on either side now which is a relief but i have this annoying itch on my right side that I cannot get rid of. 

    I worked so much for valentines week that I couldn't even get on here to write.  I got such a great letter from Jani I haven't even had time to answer yet. What a sweet wonderful sister you are.

    My sons have suddenly come to help me a great deal and I could not make it without them.  Cleaning up the house, bringing in that damn wood.  (oh, I use the wood for the wood burning stove, not to cook, lol, I don't live on the prairie) but DH doesn't send much money if any so I try and take the edge off the heating bill as much as I can. 

    Jean, they want you to do the flap now?  I have been away too long!  My mom had the flap and it looked like perfection. She actually had the same ps I have now.

    I do think I will have to have revisions.  My left side is much smaller and I can feel it when I wear my shirts, as they pull and twist, it drives me nuts and I am constantly yanking at my shirt and pulling and twisting. 

    Girls are tearing down the house....better check!  Promise not to disappear again now that the holidays are over and I am coming out of my little bitty titty depression....

    hugs to you ladies, I really missed you all.

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited February 2008

    Sharon, Somehow, by "remote vision" I can tell you're a knock-out. Don't ask me how I know....I'm psychic!  (It's true...) I have no doubt whatsoever (I LOVE that word - in fact, I love any word that combines 3 words in one) that you are gorgeous!! And even better than Kate who I put there to give up some kind of inspiration but I'm starting to think maybe ya'll don't think so...?  I said to tell me and I'll poof her away.  Just PM me and she's outta here!  Hey, I personally plan on investing in numerous low cut, V-neck tops after all my surgeries are done no matter how I turn out!   

    So, these new additions have a...oh what is it called - I need to ask my DH...a lower surface temperature?  Is that it?  I mean, everybody is talking about how the new softies don't warm up to our body temp when outside.  Hmmm.  Could it be cause it's winter?  They have a lower surface temp in the cold? 

    Gosh.  What does this mean for summer?  When it gets to 105 outside do the foobs heat up too?  OK.  There definitely needs to be another new invention for the filling on these things if they are going to misbehave like that.

    I have to tell you all something.  I have spent many years being a DD and it's nothing to write home about.  I spent time at a "full" C.  Earlier in life, I was barely a B.  Now, I'm in expando shell mode and although I'm totally 100% sick and tired of this detour through life, I prefer the smaller size.  Really.  I think it's sexier, more athletic,(gosh I keep mispelling words, must be the glass of shhhh....champagne I have here.....only 1..I promise!!!) and being smaller means so much less chance of falling forward.  I used to fall forward a lot when my boobs were big.  I think my "center" (old ballet term) was off when I was big boobed.  Now, I really am liking being smaller so Sharon, Teri ARE YOU THERE GIRL?.....GET BACK HERE AND TELL US WAZUPPPP PULEEEEZE?.....GOOD OR NOT WE MISS YOU HONEY!!!!, ahem, Denise, I must tell you that the smaller look is definitely sexy.  It is.  Oh, if I tell you something I know this post will be banned so I won't.  Smaller is better. Jani is happy thank God so I don't have to worry about her. (Luv ya Jani!) Jean, I think you just want outta these things and could care less on size...LUV YOU!  Jade...you're hanging in right? LUV!  Margaret's changed out and likes the look..LUV YA! 

    I think having this new object in the bod must take some getting used to.  Like a new pet in the house.  Or a new sofa we aren't used to sitting on yet.  Just when things are where we're used to them, life has slipped us some grapefruits!  I think maybe some distraction therapy should follow our exchanges. Like....insurance should definitely cover a free trip to the destination of our choice for a couple weeks.

    See, the pendulum of fashionable, sexiest boob size has already started swinging back to the smaller size.  Haven't ya'll noticed?  Pam Anderson is getting mocked!  Who are the babes these days?  Kiera Knightley, Julia Roberts, my friend Kate up there, go on, think for youselves!  Oh, what's her name, the kung fu girl from W.Va - married what's his name.  I'm going to come back here tomorrow morning and be embarrassed at my forgetfulness..Embarassed.   Anyway, girls - listen up please. It's the symmetry package we're going for, and some softness so we can lay face down on the beach and soak up the sun (with SPF 30 of course).  Natural looking nips and if we can wear low cut V-neck tops and even have some minor cleavage, we will be sexy.  Plus, we will be motivated to do more ab work!

    I'm telling you I have lived in DD land and I wouldn't go back there if I could.  It's truth or dare.  I'm telling the truth.  Smaller IS better.  I have actually gotten flirted with SO many times since I've been smaller and being expanded.  And I'm older than you all!  It has happened often enough that I know it's because my boobs are smaller.  The eyes drop down to the chest....and where they used to stop because the guy says to himself (OLD BROAD) I now get asked if I'm married??  Blah, blah and more flirtatious blah!!  Oh, let me tell you all I thought I was on Candid Camera! Kiss  But it keeps happening.  So as a girl who's been in DD cups and now is like a weird expando B ?, I can definitely tell you the guys like smaller better.  Trust me.  And I've been just about every size. 

    So you girls who are thinking you're not big enough, just get yourself some pretty things, low-cut, go to Victoria's Secret.  Make-up, hair looking good, wear some black and some heels, V-neck tops, earrings....you'll see what I'm talking about.  Trust me...

    Your gal pal, Hanna 

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    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited February 2008

    TERI!!!!!!   You're BACK!!    Oh Praise Be. 

    You have no idea how worried we were here in Club Expando Implanto with you being gone!!! 

    Now.  Don't you Ever do that again young lady! If you plan on disappearing for awhile, just give us a quick post and we won't be worry warts.  OK?! Smile  (Gosh, I haven't done that since the last time one of my kids got lost in a store...)  Hug em and squish em, then yell... DON"T YOU EVER DO THAT AGAIN!!!

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