Chemo or No Chemo 9% recurrance
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I am stage 1, 1.4 cm Grade 1 am 66 years old and am -PR -ER and -HER2 and am also thinking I will not take chemo
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I am stage 1, 1.4 cm Grade 1 am 66 years old and am -PR -ER and -HER2 and am also thinking I will not take chemo
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blessed, there is no correct answer for taking chemo or declining it. If you have all the information from your pathology report necessary to make a rational decision on your treatment options, and you feel it in your heart that you're comfortable with your decision, then who's to say your decision was wrong for declining chemo if the cancer were to come back? You were just following your heart and made the best decision for YOU at the time. Maybe someone else with similar tumor characteristics and oncotype score like you may have decided to do chemo, for whatever reasons they have. There is no right or wrong answer for whatever you decided to do.
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I have been disgonized with a small lump in my left breast for which I have to go for biopsy. the lump is irregular solid nodular mass. Is this cancerous I am very depressed and helpless. Please give me some advice. I am 47 years old.
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Hi Salomil - none of us can tell you if the mass is cancerous or not. You will need to get the biopsy and pathology done to know for sure. Note that 80% of lumps in the breast are benign ... so... keep those odds in your favor.
When is your biopsy scheduled for ???
I know that this is very anxiety producing ... but please take a deep breath and take care of yourself. Even if it's the worst case and is proven to be cancer - it isn't a death sentence. There are many many treatment options available.
let us know if you have any specific questions or concerns and we'll help you ...
Hugs,
Doreen
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Malady, it's not your family's decision if you have chemo or not. That's between you and your onc. If you have low numbers, and your onc says it won't benifit you, and you agree and are comfortable with it, then that's great. If however, you want the chemo, and your onc. says ok, then that's great too. You are the one to make the decision. Your family can weigh in, but not make it.
Here's hoping you make one that you are comfortable with, and like san said, there is no right or wrong here.
Good wishes to you, salomil, when you have your biopsy. Lumps can be benign as well as cancerous, and only a biopsy will tell. All I can tell you at the moment is to try and stay on the positive side of things, and know that it will be alright. Don't get ahead of this game!! And that's not an easy thing.
Jennifer
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Hi Doreen
Thank you for your comforting message. i went to the surgeon he looked at the mamogram film and told me it is 99.9% benign so I have to do the stereostatic biopsy on Feb 14th. I am so scared and depressed. I am just praying and depending on God I have no one I am alone. I need your prayers.
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Malady, just read your comment of 12/1/07. I was diagnosed on November 2007 and have been up and down the roller coaster since then. Had lumpectomy, 1 cm, had sentinental node removal (3), looked good, but when final path came back showed microtraces of cells in 2 of the nodes. Had full axillary - 10 more nodes all negative. I am ER pos; PR neg; HER2 neg. After much research, reading, opinions from 3 different oncologists and soul searching, I have opted for no chemo. I feel good about my decision. I am 60 years old, postmenopausal and don't think the chemo would make a significant difference. My oncologist supports me 100% even though she recommended a short course of chemo. She thinks I will do well on radiation and hormonal therapy. So do I. It's a great feeling.
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I wanted to ask if you were ER+ PR+ and HER2+
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Hi girls,
My oncotype score was 13. 8% recurrence at 10 years with tamoxifen. That means 8 out of 100 women my cancer would return. Having chemo would lower my cancer recurrence down to only 2% to 3%. My tumor size was 1.8 cm. I went to see 4 oncos and two recommended chemo and one onco did not recommend chemo. The last onco said that I needed radiation therapy and hormone therapy. She didn't want to recommend me chemo because of my oncotype dx score of 13. She wanted me to participate in the tailorx clinical trial. I have decided to just have radiation therapy and hormone therapy. Having chemo would only reduce my cancer recurrence by 2 or 3%, which is not that beneficial. I do not want to experience the side effects of chemo.
Take care girls!
Nikkiannej
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Malady,
I found the following website interesting and I will be going back to it when I finish writing this. I, too, am hoping I don't need chemo but will find out on June 10th.
http://www.thecancerblog.com/2006/11/29/diagnosis-of-triple-negative-breast-cancer/
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So I was diagnosed post-menopausal. 11/06, I was IDC stage 1, 1.2 cm, grade 2, ++. After surgery, we were waiting for the final results of Her2. My surgeon said if it came back +, then he would recommend a small dose of chemo; if it came back -, then no chemo. It came back -. I did ask if the oncotype test would help me make a better decision; he said no and did not recommend the oncotype test. When I see him in August, I will ask him why. He always mentions that I was low-risk. Of course, with cancer, who knows? My husband says that I worry a lot; but I said I do not worry, I just don't trust.
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dalycity - I can totally understand how you're feeling - there is just sooo much unknown and the additional tests give us more information than the pathology. I've heard/read so many stories about oncotype scores and surprises with the scores (on both sides - where it was felt the score would be high and it was low - and where it was felt that the score would be low and it was intermediate or high). It will be interesting to hear the rationale for why your onc did not recommend the oncotype DX test.
I do still worry about mets/recurrance sometimes ... I guess that fear will always be there to some extent ... I'm a little over 3 years out from diagnosis at this point ... and still occasionally wonder if I made the right decision to decline chemo (my oncotype score was 19 ... at the low end of the intermediate risk area...)
Hugs to you,
Doreen
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DoreenF - My oncotype score was also 19 and my oncologist essentially left it up to me, although he indicated that most people in my approximate situation do NOT do chemo. I couldn't decide what to do so I just went for a second opinion at Dana Farber in Boston and they unequivocally did NOT recommend chemo for me. They felt the possible negative side effects of the chemo outweighed the possible (small) benefit. So no chemo for me, either!
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My score was 19 and my onc recommended chemo for me. I'm getting my second of four TC treatments this Friday.
Really makes you wonder why there are so many different opinions!
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It does make you wonder, doesn't it? It's hard to explain why there are such different opinions for such similar situations!
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I am Stage 2, grade 3, triple negative on receptors....no lymphnode involvement, had a lumpectomy and they feel that they got all of the cancer..so I am considered "cancer clean".....however...since I am at a very high risk of getting it back..I opted to go with the chemo and radiation simply because the odds of me getting it back without the chemo were much greater then going with chemo. I was pretty frustrated..not wanting to do the chemo but then realized that the diff between doing it and not were too significant to take the risks.
My chemo has not been that bad after 2 rounds..with 2 more to go with these two drugs, then 12 wks with Taxol. It's not a picnic but I want to be as healthy as I can be. I do have a history of 4 diff types of cancer in my family genes and since my cancer is from genetics...I think chemo is a wise choice for me.
I understand your struggle to make the right decision and I am glad you were able to be at peace with your decision.. that is so important to promote healing.
Best of luck with your contiuned health!
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There are lots of different opinions because chemotherapy is a relatively new field which began to emerge about 35 years ago. At the moment it is developing rapidly, with numerous studies testing different approaches to treatment currently underway. If an oncologist has found one method of treatment helpful to some patients, s/he may be reluctant to accept a newer one that s/he has no experience with, or hesitant to accept a new method of deciding on treatment which may call past assumptions into question. Besides, some of these studies result in conflicting findings, partly.because the design of the studies varies.
Recently the tendency is to recognize that breast cancer exists in a number of subtypes, and that a treatment that works for one type may not work as well, or at all, for another type. Some tumors are nore aggressive and more likely to recur or spread than others. Many traits that were once thought to be significant,in determining this, like tumor size and lymph node involvemnt, are beginning to seem less important than the genetic makeup of the tumor. This more complex view is an advance over the earlier one, but it still leaves plenty of room for disagreement.
We know a lot more about breast cancer now than we did thirty years ago, but there is a lot we still don't know, and the less we know, the more room there is for disagreement, even among experts.
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I don't know my oncotype number yet, but the fact that I had three positive nodes is a huge factor in my surgeon recommending chemo. She and I and the oncologist will meet on january 5th where I'll find out more.
For those of you choosing no chemo, did you have any positive nodes? Before we found out mine were positive, the surgeon thought I would not need chemo, so I'm trying to understand what's most important in one's decision.
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The oncogene dx is supposed to only be used in node negative cancer, but my surgeon told me a story about a woman who had positive nodes and requested it, so she just didn't check the node status box, and the score came back low, and the woman decided to decline chemo.
This discussion shows that even in similar situations, opinions will vary.
My score was 12=8% recurrence, so chemo wasn't recommended.
Kira
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Blessed, I am exactly the same as you. I have a nine percent chance of recurrence. Had double mastectomy on November 17. When my score came back after surgery, I asked him if I should start taking Tamoxifen right away. He said, start today, tomorrow or after the new year since it was so low. Started taking Tamoxifen Jan. 1. My onc said I did not have to have chemo, but if I would feel more comfortable doing it, by all means go for a couple of rounds. I opted to not do it. I asked him if he would advise his wife to do it if she was in my shoes, and he said no, he wouldn't. Hope this helps!! Ellen
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I had a OncoDX score of a 9 and elected not to do chemo but went right on Tamox.
GG
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