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I have been for my first try here in community knowledge exchange only to introduce myself and friend who has bc.
Now I want to see if anyone has answers for this question.
I introduced my friend to whom I am a caregiver to some forums to get answers etc. Now I'm almost sorry I did this. She was in Susan G's forums and found through others the Triple Negative Breast Cancer site.
She now lives there and doesn't share much of herself, her thoughts, her feelings or anything with me now that she has so many others to talk to! She does fit in well there as she is an 11 yr. survivor of stage1V right from the getgo.
But I do soo much for her you would think she would share with me much more than she does. And I am her partner!
She says it's so much easier for her to talk using the keys, but this was never a problem before!
Now what do I do?
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I guess everyone here is just like my stage 1V partner, you're where you are really comfortable!
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Hi sunbearz, I'm really sorry you are being left out of your partner's experience. I think my dh feels the same way. It's a new experience for us to finally find others who are in the same journey we are and actually have walked the same path.
I know you want to be closer to her about this, but let her have it with these others for a while. she will find a safe place there and will be offering a considerable service to others as well, with her experience.
In time, she will be more available to you for the rest of your lives together. Maybe this will become a smaller part of her and the other part of your lives will become a larger part for your two to share.
I don't discuss my bc concerns with my dh now, 5 years out, unless something huge is happening. I discuss it here on the boards. I don't feel he's really wanting to, actually.
So, If after sitting down and letting her know your true feelings, you still feel left out, (you have done this?) perhaps you can find things to do together that have nothing to do with bc.
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Iodine
I have discussed the issue about being left out. She says she doesn't want to have this be a part of our time together so she talks with a keyboard. This has become a routine each night. I get home from work and she is taking a nap after her day at work. Then she spends an hour talking about our days at work,then out comes the laptop and it's over for me.
Now all I can do is get to work doing laundry, cleaning making dinner etc. so she can have quiet while she is talking to TNBC pals.
I'm really just in the background these days as I have so much to do to allow her to have the time she needs to rest. Then there is maybe a day on the weekend when we can spend time together but it's very short as she needs to rest a lot. I understand this and want her to have this but when all my chores are done she is back on the laptop.
I too have had my dealings with breast cancer and am a survivor of 6 yrs. and certainaly not even close to her situation.
I'm loosing touch with what I want or need now, as she seems to not have time for this.
Even a ride to the beach to watch a sunset, or watch the boats come in,would be a thrill for me. We both have gas scooters to ride, helmets and all, but to get this to happen these days is tough.
Hopefully this TNBC forum will grow old and I won't have to spout off in a forum to get myself heard.
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Hi Sunbearz,
My SO was on the road much of time during my treatment and family lived out of state, so I started reading this discussion board, and joined in last fall. When he would come home, he would be tired too, but would also want my attention. I would be tired from recovering from treatment and work as well. It was hard on both of us.
He started to say more and more things about why I was on the computer so much. I work from home transcribing and he can certainly tell the difference between when I work and when I'm "talking" to friends. I know he didn't understand. But, I found friends who finally understood me and a place where I could offer help in return. Little by little, I started to share with him about the people I had met and their lives and struggles with him. He was also able to meet one my new friends. I've been able to give back so much to many women who offered me support.
As a survivor of 6 six years, we could really use you here to help the newcomers who are so scared and are looking for hope.
If you'd like to make some friends of your own, please join us in the Moving Beyond Wagon threads, we'd love to get to know you better. We can offer you support and friendship while you're going through this difficult time.
You're both an inspiration to all of us who are newly diagnosed and recovering from treatment and trying to accept a new normal in our lives.
Best of everything to both of you,
Bren
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Hi Sunbearz,
I know you from that site and had no idea you have a partner who is a survivor.
You should be spending some quality time for sure, especially down there in Fl where the weather is nice.
Can you perhaps make dates with to purposely get out of the house for non bc related things, or could it be that your partner concerned about you and needs support.
Ferne
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Hi Sunbearz,
I really feel for you. You expressed this very eloquently:
"I'm losing touch with what I want or need now, as she seems to not have time for this."
I have certainly experienced this realization at moments in a longterm relationship.
I had this wacky "flash" that you could strike up something with her online using a pseudonym (as a game, that you would both know about, not as a "sting operation")...
That's not a real recommendation! And I REALLY am not making light of your situation... just that while you face your own needs seriously, you also hang on to some playfulness in interacting with her.
Maybe just venting your frustration here will relieve it a little bit,
but I agree with Ferne that you two need some quality time.
Wishing you both the best,
Ann
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BinVA
Thank you so much for noticing I was here. I really appreciate the info of the other forum, as I've had a real hard time trying to find where I belong! It always seems like I'm butting in no matter where I try to find a place for help.
That's also sometimes how I feel when I take up this very valuable space all you wonderful ladies share(guys too!).
I finally cried this morning when I got your answer,as it gave me a good feeling that someone was listening. You made me feel good!
Thank you
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Is the site you are refering to TNBC? If so, she also uses sunbearz as I initially set her up in Susan G. to start using a forum to get answers. So she probably uses the same wherever she goes!
I am a bc survivor and she is a 11yr. survivor and still fighting!
Today as well as yesterday it's going to be 80' so I have talked her into going out on our 49cc gas scooters for a ride! She has such a good time but gets very nervous of the sometimes heavy traffic even on our residential side streets. With the bone mets a fall even at a slow speed would be devastating, so sometimes it's hard to get her out.
Thank you so much for your answers.
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Thank you Ann.
Quite some time ago she sent me an invitation to the
TNBC forum that she spends so much time in. So I was occasionally reading up to find her thoughts and feelings. This of course upset me even more as I would expect some of these things she should share with me. So I stopped! That was just my first realization that she need to talk with like people.
This is a really good way to get out some of my frustrations as all of you I've met here give me inspiration.
This morning her daughter and I are going to church with her for the blessing of the throat, Saint Blaise I believe. Then it's off for a fun motorscooter ride through our neighborhood! Such a fun getaway for me, and always a rush for her!
You take care Ann, and thanks again.
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Ohhh...
I'm so sorry that I got the wrong sunbearz. I was confused by the same name on both sites.
I'm really sorry that you are going through this. It hurts to be left out; especially when you want to be there with and for her.
When I was first diagnosed and went through treatment I was on the sites alot, then it dwindled, then started up again after mets, etc.
But at the same time it's nice that you are able to get out today and motorscooter and do something nice.
Bren is right. This site is more encompassing because there are areas for just about everyone to give and receive support.
And I bet something separate and your own would be good.
Hugs,
Ferne
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I'm not sure which site you found Sunbearz on, but she is a regular on TNBC and ocassionaly goes to Susan G. You were not confused!
When she first started in these forums she spent a lot of time trying to make connections, and then it exploded.She slowed down for a while while all was good with her treatments. Now she is back at it again as she starts today with her first rads on her throat. Mediasternum lymph something(I'm not as schooled at this) and no chemo during this 4 week never ending hell!
I expect this to be much harder to take than it has been, as her level of energy is going to be a lot less. I recall my rads were 8 weeks of not much more than sleep.
It's going to be another 80's day here in Fl. so I'm thinking of you in NY and rembering how cold it was up there! I'm originally from N.H.
Thank you for the talk and warm hugs for you Ferne.
Dawn
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Dawn, my dh had rads to his throat last spring and it was a bitch. Much worse than we ever dreamed it would be. Very painful after about the 5th treatment. so be prepared. He had NEVER taken more than an tylenol in his life and was taking narcotics and liquid pain meds regularly along with topical washes and such. It was really rough.
You both need to discuss this possibility with the rads doc and see what meds are recommended and get the scrips filled and have them on hand. also keep up with constipation needs when she starts using any narcotics. It will help to start with some carnation instant breakfast since eating will become an issue as well, not only due to throat pain, but due to taste and loss of appetite. We also used protein waters for hydration and ensure type things for nutrition.
also get some of the fiber that disolves in any liquid, it will be needed.
Not to scare you, and I hope it doesn't happen, but you do need to be prepared. We were not.
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Now you got me nervous, but with your letting me know what I might expect I will be prepared! I talked with her last night about what the Doc says to expect, and as usual she says I don't want to know, I'll deal with it when it gets here. I'm sure she will talk to the Doc when she has to.
When I get home tonight she will be on her second treatment and maybe will have more to want to talk about.
Thank you for jumping in here, I appreciate all your advice.
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Hi Sunbearz,
I noticed that you stated your partner sent you an invitation to TNBC forum she was on. You said you read some, but then stopped because you felt like she should have been sharing these things with you. I am wondering if that is why she sent you the invitation. Maybe that was her way of still sharing it with you. I know that in the beginning I had no problem with sharing things, but as time has gone on it has gotten more difficult. I started a website so I could share with whomever wanted to know what was going on, so that way I didn't have to talk about it all the time. I don't know if that is what is going on with your partner or not. I just thought I would offer up my own experience as another way of looking at it. My husband checks my website everyday so that he can keep up with what is going on. It is not that I don't want to share with him because I do, that it why I have the site. It is just that I get sick of cancer always being to total focus in our lives and when I have to talk about it that is how it feels. Maybe if you can find a way to read what she is writing then that will help. I feel that the fact she asked you to join the forum shows that she still does want to share with you. She just may need a break from verbalizing it right now.
Keep laughing,
Jenny
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Jenny,
I think you hit the nail on the head! You are right! She always says I really don't want to talk about this now, I want to talk about what we are going to do tomorrow. And yes you are probably right about the invitation, as when I told her I had even printed off some of her posts and why I did it, she said I'm glad you thought of this. I even told her I was printing hard copies for her children in the future. She obviously wanted me to understand all this without taking away from our time. You have me laughing now, at how blind to this I might have been!
Thank you so much!
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