How sickening is this? Iraq bombings today

I have off today cause of snow.  12 inches here in Chicago.  Anyways I have been watching the news.  I think it is just awful also.  The way I interpreted it, the girls who were mentally challenged - they believed they didnt even know they were carrying a bomb.  And at a Pet store yet. 

Sad, so very sad.

Nicki (aka chemosabi)

Then this is not suicide bombing. It's homocidal bombing using the innocent.



Truly tragic that mankind stoops so low...



Tender

Now, I don't want to lessen the horror of these awful, dispicable, actions but I have had a question on my mind for a while about female bombers:

If they give the guys 72 virgins in paradise, what do they give the females? 

Well, Ladies...those who send the suicide (and in this case homocide) bombers out are numb of any feelings. I know this is true. They have been brainwashed since they were young that it's an honor to kill for their cause. I do not know how this can be changed. And THAT is what is so sad...

This story is tragic and heartbreaking. I don't even have words for how sad this is. I wonder how they found the women. Did their families offer them up? Were they picked up off the street?

I hope our next president can get down on his or her knees, give the UN a huge mea culpa for Bush and ask for their support since the US is doing a horrible job there.

Ravdeb, you are correct. This starts at birth. Look at the madrases  all they do it teach the kids to hate and kill anyone who is not part of their ideology. They train their kids and glorify suicide bombers. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if these girl's parents offered them up for this mission.

Amy, I do not think the UN is deserving of any United State's leader to be begging for forgiveness. I think the UN has blood on its hands. Look at Oil for Food- that money was meant to go for food but it wound up in Saddam's pocket with kickbacks to several, former UN members. UN "peacekeepers" have raped and abused refugees from Africa to the Mediterranean.

This is something that will take at least a generation to resolve... as Ravdeb says, it is ingrained in them from birth. 

I am reminded of a song from South Pacific "You Have to Be Carefully Taught", it was about racism.  Children are not born with thoughts of hatred but are taught from birth to hate and be intolerant.

These teachings are as ingrained as the color of their eyes.  It is only when the children are taught tolerance that the world will be changed and peace will be possible.  Not in my lifetime, or yours or, unfortunately, my grandchildren's (if I ever have any).

As far as the UN---------------------fahgetaboutit.  A bunch of old men and women gabbing and gabbing and NEVER accomplishing anything except having diplomatic immunity in our country.

The concept was intelligent and well formed, but obviously not practical in this day and age of one for one and all for no one, unless they have oil, or a huge army.

The NYT has been very educational about jihaddists, and their (brainwashing).

Two  NYT Mag  cover stories I can think of offhand-one the summer after the bombing showed lines of young Jihadists in training,wearing white hoods, how frightening is that? And yes,RavDeb and Gina, it told us exactly how the mothers PRAY their sons will grow up to be jihaddists!

(They are paid, the mothers.Lovely new apartments, when they used to live in refugee camps, etc)(Not that this explains it, because of course you couldnt pay a Western parent enough to sign their kid up as a suicide bomber).

The second cover story was a picture of a young man on a rooftop looking over a city.Title:"Where boys grow up to be jihaddists".

Truely, I could not bear to read the story.One feels so powerless .

Can someone tell me if these "mentally retarded" girls WERE truely idiots, or if they were "bad", like trying to go to school, or not cover their hair(and so they must be crazy)?Does anyone know?

The cover of the NYT today (Saturday) took me totally aback.Photo of a weeping young man arm around his weeping younger brother.

Their father was killed in a bombing.

But they looked ...just like us, like Americans!Clothes, hair.

Sorry, I am ignorant.I know there are people in Arab countries who look Western, but I never imagined them looking so totally...Western.

Different culture...we invite people here into our homes and people know it's okay to sleep over as well, if needed. It's very different. and isn't really imposing on somebody like it could be in the States.

Some Arabs here look very westernized and others don't. Depends on where they live and if they are religious or not.

Honestly..what they look like is not the problem. It's how so many are being educated which is causing a h*ll on earth. They are raising their kids (not ALL..I am only talking about the terrorist cells) to have no feelings for anyone...not even for themselves. Their lives are focused on taking over the entire world. Yes, this is what I believe.

Anne

Bingo! You hit the nail on the head! You are so right! The reason they are now resorting to innocents with DS is because they are having trouble finding others willing to do it. The surge is working. The Sunnis and Shia are sick and tired of ALQueda killing them and blaming each other. The bad guys are losing control, and all thanks to our incredible troops who bravely live with them so that they can teach them a new way. Hats off to our brave men and women in uniform!

Here's a little Ha Ha via my beloved uncle, a Vietnam vet:

    Osama finally meets his maker, and is overjoyed to be on his way to his 72 virgins. As he is trying to get there, he runs into George Washington, who starts beating the crap out of him and yelling, "Who do you think you are, and why did you try to destroy my country!" Osama finally gets away but runs into John Adams. Adams starts beating the crap out of him and yells. "You, @#$%, what are you trying to do to my country!". Then he runs into Robert E. Lee, same  thing happens. Over and over, he just cannot seem to get to his idea of heaven. At last he reaches Allah. He says to Allah, "What is happening to me, I did everything you asked?!"

Allah replies, "Osama, Osama, you never listened to me. I never promised you 72 virgins. I tried to tell you to do as I ask or you would be meeting 72 Virginians!"

Hey RavDeb - I agree re trying to use someone else's ideals, but I think his premise was to ensure there was only academics and practical life skills were taught, no teaching of religion/culture/beliefs etc. (Well, of course, with the notable exception of allowing the girls an education!) And I read that he always went through the proper village channels, and got approval from the village elders first. What was interesting (to me) is that it seemed he often found the smallest and most remote villages to be more open to teaching the girls and education in general.

Of course, he wrote the book himself, so who knows?

It's so hard not to be cynical, but I agree, children are not born with hate in their hearts. The racism and variety of other "isms" still flourishing in this country don't give me much hope though.

I do have to say, I wish for my child (11) that his world could be free of hatred based on race, religion, sexual orientation, whatever. When he was 4 he had 2 friends named Christopher. He called one, "Christopher from school" and the other, "Christopher who lives downstairs at my Daddy's house". As you can probably guess, one was black and one was white. I loved the fact that to him, that was not a way to distinguish between the two. He did not see that as a difference. So far, he is as appalled by any of the -isms as he is by underage drinking, anyone smoking or getting a tattoo (but that's because he's still terrified of needles ) 

One more story: I live in MA, and when he was 5 the gay marriage legislature was impossible to shield him from (even though I didn't watch the news when he was home.) He somehow heard about the protests, and asked me about it, so I briefly explained. His response was, "why would anyone care unless they were the one getting married?"

And on that note, enough bragging about my wonderful child.

May we have a peaceful day in the world today...

It makes make me sad that our troops do not get the credit they deserve. Does anyone honestly think the people in Bagdad are sitting around on the internet looking at the presidental race in the US and thinking "Oh, maybe there will be new leaders in the US so we better get along." The reason the surge is working is because they are seeing Americans, of all races and religions, walking around their villages, trying to keep the peace. Our troops are enabling Iraqi childrent to go back to school and their parents to go back to work. How can minds be changed if education is not allowed? Masters controlled their slaves by beating them if they learned to read or write. Saddam did the same to women. There will be a day that women of the middle east will have a chance to learn, speak up, and even get treatment for breast cancer! And it is all because of our troops! No one ever thought the Japanese would be a peaceful country. After all they had been ruled by warlords for centuries. No one thought the Nazi's would ever be overthrown. Today we have a free Europe, even if they do not give us credit, they are free because of hundreds of thousand of young Americans who gave their lives so that the world would be a better place. Americans do not fight to conquer. We fight for freedom. And thank God someone in the world is willing to do it. While the idiots in the UN continue to become nothing but a bunch of talking heads, allowing membership to murderers and despots, the US actually makes a difference. Yes, we are criticized, but where would they be without us. Let's not minimize what our troops are doing by saying that it is the internet that is the reason for less violence!

God Bless America!