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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    This morning, a friend of mine called to tell me another friend of ours was listed in the death notices in today's paper. He was only 58 years old. It hit me like a ton of bricks.



    He was at my house less than two weeks ago talking about his new grandchild on the way and about a series of stories about his mom he was going to start writing (he was a student in my adult creative writing class for the last five years). I can still hear his booming laugh as we picked a date to meet again before the next class starts in early March.



    The viewing is Sunday and the funeral is Monday. All I keep hearing in my head are the plans he was making - for his son and grand children, for his business, for his writing - all that. What happens to all those plans now that he isn't here to make sure they come to fruition?



    My father died three years ago in a very sudden way like my friend. I hadn't talked to him in a while, and when I walked into his house to begin the process of settling things, there was a "to-do" list on the table of things he wanted to get to in preparation for his move to back to his childhood home. From the looks of things, he was finally ready to put his feet up and retire w/his trusty fishing reel. Because of a massive heart attack, he never got to do that it. That one thought almost broke my heart in two.



    I make plans every day: for my son's college education, for retirement, for next year, for dinner. One day, I'm not going to be around to do them. I don't want my family and friends to bawl their eyes out over all the things I meant to do but didn't. It just seems so cruel...



    So, what's the answer? Fly by the seat of your pants assuming today may be the very last one you spend on this planet? Or make plans for retirement and the future just in case you actually make it to that point?



    This is not quite going where I thought it would. Sorry for the ramble, but thanks for allowing me to...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Oh Dear Felicia, I hear you loud and clear. 

    I understand what you are feeling.  My Dad died very suddenly in November, and I have been thinking the same thing.  I came across the picture we took of him in the end of August (he died of cirrhosis, he looked awful in the picture, and at the time I thought he had horrible rosacea). 

    I had such a good visit with him that day.  We shared stories of marriage.  My mom died 13 years ago from Leukemia.  My Dad told me how my Mom had charged over $20,000 in credit card debt and did not tell my Dad until she got sick.  We laughed and remembered.  


    I told him how moving to the "big city" was really hard for us financially, because everything was literally 2x's the expense and we only had about a third more income.  We talked as though I was finally a grown up.  

    I left the house that day thinking that we had hit a milestone.  I was an adult in my Dad's eyes!  Two months later, I was calling the police on him because he wasn't answering the phone or returning calls. 

    It happens so fast.  I have been going through his bills and seeing where he wrote the due dates on the envelopes (just as he has been doing for 13 years).  It freaks me out that some bills were due the day he died. 

    He didn't know he was going to die that day.  

    It does make me worry about the future.  I went to the dentist the other day and asked about veneers for my teeth.  He said, "You will just have to get them replaced in 20 years anyway.  Don't get them." 

    I was thinking, "Will I be here in 20 years?!?!?  Hell, get me the veneers."  

    I fear such the same things.  I have been living the mentality lately of that story that gets forwarded in emails.....

    the one about the lady that died, and the husband goes through the drawers and finds the "special" lingerie.  The stuff that she was saving for a special day but never took the tags off.  She never got to enjoy it. 

    I have been trying to "take the tags off," and sieze each moment.  I suffer from a lot of fear of "what if," but I also live by the quote I made into a shirt...

    "I might die, but not while I am living." 

    Remember teresapw?  She had the tag line, "LIVING with cancer, not DYING from it." 

    That rings in my head all the time.  

    Love and prayers, Deb

  • KariLynn
    KariLynn Member Posts: 1,079
    edited January 2008

    Felicia,

    I'm  so sorry for your loss.

    IMO we keep making plans but do the ones that are really important to us NOW.  Do not put off telling people we love them or apologizing if we've hurt people, but don't give up on the future.  No one is guaranteed another day but we should have things to look forward to.

    I try to think of things for a "bucket list" but when I think of something I usually decide I don't want to do that as much as I just want to be with my family and friends.  Might sound boring but it's what I want. 

    We all need to decide what we want and start getting it NOW.

    (hugs)

    Kari 

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited January 2008

    Felicia, I'm so sorry for your loss.  Of course it hit you like a ton of bricks.

    When my father died (at 61 -- seems so young to me now that I'm 55), I really felt like there was a hole in the space-time continuum -- yes, very sci-fi.  A hole that needed to be healed.  At the same time, I also felt like there was a special connection that had opened "between heaven and earth" -- I realized I had also felt this in the days after my son's birth.  Like there really is a realm other than "this mortal coil" -- and it's kind of a good thing that it opens up, but the time while it's "open" is a vulnerable, fragile time.

    Does this sound crazy?  It's not that I really "believe" it, it's more like maybe my sense of loss and displacement (in the case of my father), or awe and strangeness (when my son was born) took me to emotional extremes -- I was so "beside myself" that I felt otherworldly.

    In any case, when a loss is sudden and new, you're with the loss, you're trying to hang on to the person who's gone -- you're overwhelmed by the plans they've made that won't be fulfilled -- and maybe by the plans you didn't even know you'd made, your expectation of continuing to be with them.  When your loss loses its rawness, you'll make plans again.  Plans are helpful for getting things done -- it's not wrong to make them -- we all may just have more urgency to complete them the older we get.

    (((Hugs)))

    Ann

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Felicia, I'm so sorry that your friend didn't get to carry out his plans.  Seems like life isn't fair sometimes.  I believe many of us know someone who has been hurt by a sudden loss.

    My friend who is 61 has been divorced over 20 years.  She FINALLY found a man she could truly love and he truly loved her.  He would come to her home while she was in the office working, and say, honey, I'm here.  They would kiss and hug and he would tell her how beautiful she was.  I think he was about eight years older than her. 

    He was a tall man (she's a tall gal), and played basketball while in college for North Carolina State University (years ago).  He was getting "fit" when she met him...exercising, eating better, getting his cholesterol under control. 

    They traveled to Indiana for his 50th high school reunion and also family reunion.  His family commented on how happy he was.  He had lost his wife about 10 years prior to my friend meeting him.   His "old" friends commented on how happy he seemed.  They were having a ball on this trip.  They rented a house by the lake.  One day after most of the family left except for his children Larry (that was his name) had been swimming with his granddaughter who he adored.  He felt a bit short winded.  He was sitting beside my friend, and they were talking.  She turned around to ask him something and he was gone.  They tried to revive him, but to no avail.  He died of a massive heart attack.

    My friend is still trying to cope.  They had so many plans...plans to travel, just plans.  She walked around in a cloud for at least a week.

    My friend finally found the man of her life. 

    When I found out I was devastated for my friend.  We sometimes have lunch together and her eyes still fill with tears.  The PLANS they made......They were so full of life and love even though it was a shor time.  She had accepted his proposal of marriage just a couple of days before he died.

    I am sorry for your friend, my friend, and others who have lost loved ones who had so many plans.

    Hugs to you, Felicia.

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Thanks Deb, Kari, Ann and Shirley, for your insight. It really helps.



    I know time is a great equalizer, but it seems like it is passing so slowly right now.



    But God is always good. This was in my inbox a few minutes ago:



    "Life is too short to wake up with regrets; so love the people who treat you right, forget about the one's who don't, and believe that everything happens for a reason. If you get a second chance, grab it with both hands! If it changes your life, let it. Nobody said life would be easy...they just promised that it would be worth it!!! "



    I'm sure my friend John lived life in just this way. It feels almost like something he might have written, even...

  • Desny
    Desny Member Posts: 371
    edited January 2008

    Oh Felicia,

    I am so sorry that your friend passed away.  I do feel for you and his family.  Just try to remember that your tears are because you loved him.  It's okay to let it out!!!

    I have experienced a few people in my life that died just when all was going well in their lives.  My own Dad was just 5 months away from retirement.  He died and never got to retire.   A wonderful man and good friend was gone just 6 months after his retirment and had his new boat/home and new friends.  I still miss him terrible.  Sometimes events in life seem unfair and are painful.  You need time to heal from this loss. 

    In time, your pain and tears will turn into smiles at his memory.

    Wish I could hug you now!!!

  • Poppy
    Poppy Member Posts: 405
    edited January 2008

    Felicia, I'm sorry for your loss. I think we get used to the idea of death after a sickness, but when it's so sudden... it jolts us into a place that we don't want to think about. I remember the year my dad died (it was in November) we had wrapped Christmas gifts that he had already hid. My step-mom and I didn't know what to do. It was so eerie to open them and know that he had picked these things out for us - fully expecting to be there on Christmas morning. I think it's good to be prepared for the end, but that's a matter of making arrangements and locking them in a firesafe or something. Once that's done, I try not to think about "the end." I know I don't live to my full potential and I want to change that. I am a procrastinator at heart and need to always remember that tomorrow isn't promised. I just don't like thinking about that!

    My love and hugs are being sent your way.

    Erica

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    OK - so I picked up the paper this morning and found John's full obituary. It was so eery seeing the same face that sat at my dining room table a few days ago sipping on a mug of green tea smiling up from the little photo in the paper. Until then, I hoped that it was perhaps another man with the same name and around the same age who had passed...



    Just after his professional accomplishments is a sentence about his writing - about the classes he took and how he was actually a published author. That made me smile as he got his first acceptance from an article he'd written for class. I kept harping on him (and everyone else) to submit something SOMEWHERE and even made them all pick a market and bring in an envelope to mail the manuscript for our final class. The theory is that the worst thing that could happen would have only been a "Dear Contributor" rejection letter. John ended up getting a "We love it an want to publish it!" phone call.



    It feels good to know that in some small little way something I did/said made a tiny difference in someone's life. It doesn't make the tears stop or make me miss him any less, but it helps a bit...

  • Jorf
    Jorf Member Posts: 498
    edited January 2008

    Felicia,

    I'm so sorry to hear this. It's wonderful that he got published and, as you say, you were an important part of his life and got some of that pointed out to you.

    We've had a couple of deaths like that in our community this year - the neighbor whose wife woke up to find he'd died in the night - 51 years old. The 60-ish friend who was an avid rock-climber and bicyclist who dropped dead on a bike ride. (The last time we saw him was at a friend's college graduation party and he was planning retirement....)

    Yes, I have that same strange feeling about planning v doing what's right for now. I'm still in the situation of deciding if I want to go get my PhD full time or keep my job and have some money and security and save up. I have a chance to get long term disability (super expensive) - should I do it? Isn't that just planning for the worst? I know that if I were diagnosed with metastases I would absolutely go to school. But it seems rash if I'm going to hang out here for 30 more years....

    But I guess then there'll be time to do it later. I think I'll start with a class in the fall tho. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    What's that saying: Man makes plans & God laughs? Something like that...



    It wasn't so much that I was an important part of his life, J, just that some small thing I did - teach a non-credit writing class - touched him and made an impact, however teeny. That made me smile.



    His sister said that his writing came out of the blue. It was just something he decided to put his heart into and be passionate about. And he was. I'm just glad he shared that passion with us (the class). At the funeral, we thanked his family for allowing him to share that passion with us.



    I found out an interesting story about John at the funeral today: about three years ago, he found out he had a heart condition that he could either have surgery to correct or leave alone. The surgery was a tricky one, and the risk of him dying on the table was huge. If he did nothing, he could live a normal life but the doctors told him that most likely his heart would just give out without warning one day and all of a sudden it would all be over. He bagged the idea of surgery and told no one other than his adult son about his diagnosis because he said he didn't want his relatives and friends fretting over something they couldn't control. And he made it a point to live each day to the fullest because he didn't know if it would literally be his last. So, I guess that means go with the flow. If it feels right, do it. Plan for tomorrow and live for today because you never know when God will call you home...



    In the casket, John was dressed in his favorite t-shirt and jeans, a roll of electrical tape in his hand and his glasses hanging out of his shirt pocket. He even had a slight smile. He looked just like he always did - and the viewing and the funeral were both celebrations of his life. The tears shed there were tears of joy from the funny stories his family told about him. It was the most wonderful service I've ever been to...



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    I love that John was dressed the way you knew him. 

    My Dad's foster brother died a few weeks ago.  He was an invalid-he had a very rare case of hydroencephelous (no idea how to spell that), about 60 years ago and the docs didn't know what to do with him.  

    Anyway, instead of burying him in a suit, they buried him in his blue jammies, just like he had worn for the past 60 years.  I loved that. 

    I buried my Dad in a nice but casual shirt we had gotten him last Christmas.  It was the same thing-Dad NEVER dressed up for anything.  He owned about 15 of the same grey sweatshirt and rotated them.  

    Beautiful story, Felicia.  Thank  you for sharing it with us. 

    Love and prayers, Deb

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    What a sweet, sweet funeral, Felicia.  Thanks for sharing. 

    Deb, I think I'll tell my family to bury me in my jammies...they're so comfy.  Wink

    It's really strange how things happen.  My friend's mom was amost 91.  She had to be taken to the hospital two times in one week.  That last time she never got out of the hospital.  Although the doc's told my friend that her mom had a very bad stroke my friend had not "planned" on her mom dying.   She said she never really thought about it.  Her mom died a couple of weeks ago and my friend has taken it very hard.  Isn't it strange that no matter how old one is that it is still hard to accept.  If her mom had been bedridden for some time she could have accepted it better. 

    Shirley

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited January 2008

    If you want to make God laugh, make a plan.

  • junie
    junie Member Posts: 1,216
    edited January 2008

    gentle hugs, Felicia...sorry to hear about a loss of someone dear to you.

    Make plans!  For tomorrow--next week, next year, five years away.  We joke here sometimes about crossing the road and getting hit by the proverbial bus, or that the light at the end of the tunnel is another train coming at us head on--our varied experiences with breast cancer tend to make us leery of life in general...but, that generic bus and train are always out there....so, make your plans for as far into the future that you want! 

  • Little-G
    Little-G Member Posts: 647
    edited January 2008

    Felicia,

    I'm so sorry about John!  But I'm glad that you had the opportunity to enjoy his company while he was here, and he yours.  I remember like it was today when my niece called and told me my sister was dead.  What???  There was nothing wrong with her!  I just seen her and we were planning Thanksgiving, she said I have something to tell you but we'll talk when I see you next week. That week never came.  In answer to your question, I think you do both.  You fly by the seat of your pants, and you make plans!  There will be times when the day is done, and maybe you didn't make everything you could of the moments that went by.  But there will be days when you do!  Both are OK.  But do make sure the people you love know you love them.  In any little ways that you can.  I'm sure John's family is happy you were in his life.  I'm sorry for you loss.

    g

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    I think I want to to be buried in my karate gi. Ha! My non-immediate family (especially my aunts) would literally flip their lids over that one, I'm sure. I imagine a brawl breaking out at the pre-burial family meeting...



    One of my friends said she and her hubby have already made their funeral arrangements. They bought their plots after she got a scary dx during a bout with colon cancer. She said they picked a spot with the best view, and she still bought a brand new car this year after her daughter graduated from college (what a way to celebrate not having to pay college tuition anymore!)...



    Plan for tomorrow but live for today. I like that...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    I like that too Felicia...

    "plan for tomorrow but live for today..."

    How are you?

    Benita

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Doing well, Benita! How's your family?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Hey Felicia,

    The family is great , thank you for asking. I hope your family is well? How is karate? You had a tournament recently? Did it go well? Nice to hear from you , you are always so full of joy.

    Benita   

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Family is ok as is work and all that that entails. Karate isn't so great right now -just some growing pains with one of the places I train in, which I'm working to correct. I had promotions in early December but won't compete again until early March in a combined male/female tourney. I love to spar (fight)! Can't wait to get in the ring and test my mettle...



    Karate is my stress relief. I tell my family all the time that I'm sure I'd yell a whole lot more if I didn't get to go to the dojo and pound the snot out of stuff a few times a week. Years ago, I used to think everyone on the planet should go to therapy at least once in their lives; now I think everyone should practice a martial art, lol...

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