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Negative Estrogen Receptor Result

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  • davitamorales
    davitamorales Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2008

    After having my right breast completely removed, with not trace of having spread to the lymph nodules,  the oncologyst recommended four sessions of Chemiotherapy just for prevention..... 

     I have taken two already, and I feel like a poisoned rat!!!... Anyway, the thing is that the test for "estrogen receptor" came out negative..everything negative...I thought this was great knews, but the doctor says that maybe because of this result, I might have to have more therapy ....  and another kind of chemiotherapy (I am taking the "red" one , do not know the name of it) maybe I really do not even care to know the name).   But I really feel that I do not need extra treatment as prevention because the cancer had not spread.    I only have seen the treatment for  "positive estrogen receptors" but what treatment is there for the "negative estrogen receptors.??

    I am so confused !!!.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Ok-First of all, welcome.  You have come to a wonderful support family. 

    Has your onc. mentioned if you are also her2neu positive or negative?  If you are negative, then you are indeed a "triple negative."  

    There are a few ways to look at that.  Triple negatives do not have "after" treatment like Tamoxifen or Herceptin.  That can be scary to think about, but the good news is that triple negatives respond VERY well to chemo. 

    Sounds like you are on Adrimyacin (if my chemo brain allows me to remember correctly.  Right, ladies?  The "red" one isn't Cytoxan....).   Anyway, the usual chemo cocktail is ACT.  Some doctors change it up a bit for us triple negatives. 

    For me, I had the Adrimyacin and Cytoxan, but my oncologist wasn't happy with the initial response I was having.  My tumor was shrinking only a bit.  So, he added Carboplatins to the Taxol mix for me, and my tumor shrunk almost 99 percent. 

    I know this is so scary and stressful for you.  I also had negative lymph nodes.  However, I chose to be as agressive as I could, because I have no way of knowing if one tiny little cancer cell remained in my body after having chemo and then surgery.  I got maximum radiation as well. 

    So, the treatment recommendation for triple negative is really to do the chemo.  You probably do feel like crap right now, but you will finish treatment, and begin to feel better and better each day. 

    I am 2.5 years since dx. and I am doing fine.  You will be too.  It's not easy, but you can DO this. 
    Love and prayers, Deb

  • davitamorales
    davitamorales Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2008

    Thank you so much.   Tomorrow is my third treatment.  And as you, I am triple negative.    The only difference is that I am 67 years old.

    And after chemo I feel as if I was pregnant without the pleasure of seeing the new born!!!.... On the third day I start vomiting and I hardly can eat.   (I am working and I wish there could be something that I could make me feel less sick)...

    Thank you sooo much for sharing your comments.

    Bless you!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Hello again, It's so odd/funny/ironic that you compare cancer to pregnancy.  When I was diagnosed, we were trying to get pregnant with our second child.  I was CONVINCED I was pregnant. 

    I had all the signs.  I was nauseous, really tired, and my breasts hurt.   Well, one breast hurt.  The cancer one. 

    I tell everyone that we thought we were going to have a child, and we gave birth to cancer. 

    It is so much like pregnancy, without the joy of a baby at the end.  However, there is the joy of GOOD HEALTH to follow. 

    Good for you in deciding to do the other treatments.  I know it is hard, but YOU CAN DO THIS. 

    I ate lots of carb-rich stuff during tx.  I ate anything resembling or containing potato, any sort of bread, rice, bagels, etc.  I would not/could not eat anything more spicy than a little salt/pepper. 

    I hated drinking my water, but forced myself to.  Everything tasted like pennies to me, including water.  Try adding a little lemon, or even eating lots of watermelon!  Whatever it takes! 

    Are you taking any anti-nausea meds?  Ativan was a godsend for me.  It calms you down, and helps your appetite!   I had a horrible allergic reaction to compazine (I couldn't control my arms or legs!), but was given something else to take opposite the ativan(I can't remember what it was now! Stupid chemo brain....). 

    Hang in there.  Love and prayers, Deb

  • jeanne46
    jeanne46 Member Posts: 1,941
    edited January 2008

    I'm also triple negative, and from the research I've read, chemo seems to work best on triple negative cancers. The red stuff is adriamycin (from a group of chemo agents known as anthracyclines). One of the best anti-nausea medications I've heard about is EMEND. A close friend and many ladies in the infusion room I go to have all attested to its good results. It's very expensive, but usually the insurance company covers the cost. Ask your oncologist about the possibility of trying that. I have personally used ativan (not for adriamycin, though) and it seems to calm my stomach pretty quickly - I let it melt under my tongue; it seems to get into your system faster that way (sometimes referred to as taking a medication sub-lingually).



    Hang in there - just two more to go (actually since today is the tomorrow you referred to- only one more to go!!) You will bounce back and start to feel normal after that. Best of luck and gentle hugs, Jeanne

  • Analemma
    Analemma Member Posts: 1,622
    edited January 2008

    The thing about triple negative breast cancer is that, since it is negative for the things they have treatment for, there is not treatment other than chemotherapy.  Having no positive lymph nodes is great, but cancer can also spread through the bloodstream.  Do the chemo, and live for a long, long time!

    Tell them about the nausea.  You shouldn't get so sick that you are throwing up.  There are drugs for that.

  • davitamorales
    davitamorales Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2008

    Thanks for your comments and good wishes.... I took Emend last time and it did help for the nausea.   I forgot to ask the Dr. for another prescription this time and since it is very expensive, I will not buy it unless I have a prescription .  My health insurance covers 80% of the cost which is not bad.   I know that by tomorrow morning I will need this pill.   So thanks for telling me about ativan,  I will buy it today (hope is not restricted)....  I feel like vomiting, but I hold myself because if I start vomiting my wig may fall into the toilet and this will complicate things....My  JLO look at 67 yrs. will vanish in a matter of seconds!!!...(JA!)... Thank you girls...Bless you all!!!.

  • ravdeb
    ravdeb Member Posts: 3,116
    edited January 2008

    Glad to hear you find some humor in this stuff!

    The women have all said what needs to be said. Triple negs need to do chemo even if there was no spread "even" to the lymph nodes and even if you had a very small tumor. It seems that the tumor size and spread to lymph nodes is not really as important with triple negs.

    Be sure to let your doctor know about the vomitting. You should get whatever is the best thing to take, to delete that part.  Also..be sure to drink lots of water. It's important for many reasons. If water isn't good for you (I still can't always drink plain water), add a touch of juice to the water to give it some flavor. I colored mine with cranberry juice and I also drank tea...herbal tea. Reg. tea and coffee don't count. You can drink them but you still need to drink water..lots of it..

    Good luck. It's not easy but you can do it!  

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