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  • Teribear
    Teribear Member Posts: 60
    edited January 2008

    I wanted to get caught up with all the great posts and got about half way through when I realized what time it is so I am going to post fast and get caught up tomorrow!  But I wanted to share with everyone I got a promotion today!  I am now a supervisor of sorts and also now train the new hires!  I am so excited..!

    Also....someone (forgive me I don't  have time to scroll back up to make sure who it was....) was asking about having ovaries removed.    The only reason you would need to do that is if you do have the BRC gene because the breast cancer gene and the ovarian cancer gene are basically one in the same...and ovarian cancer doesn't show up anything on your pap...soooooo.....I had the test done last month and am waiting on the results.  My insurance did indeed foot the bill because I have a family history since I lost my mom to BC about 8 yrs ago.  So check into it!!!!!!!!!!!  Be safe. If I remember right, we are the same age, I just turned 40 right after my diagnosis last summer.  My girls are 3 and 5 and I am doing every damn thing I can to be here for them!  I can't imagine leaving them with their father!  OMG you all know how I feel about HIM.

    So....if that is what I need to do ...I sure as hell won't like it but it is sure better than the alternative.  I am not one to sit and play the waiting game. Just like with my mastectomies.  My surgeon suggested I just have a lumpectomy, and I only had it in one breast...I said, without hesitation, NOPE take them both off immediately.  His jaw hit the ground!  I did not want to be watched constantly and my thought was why in the hell take the chance? What if they don't catch it as soon if it comes back?  Afterall, mine did not show up on my mamogram and there was no lump! 

    okay...I said I was going to be quick but continue to ramble.....back tomorrow!  Hugs!  Gentle ones at that or we would all sound like banging coconuts together!  hahah!

  • Sharon67
    Sharon67 Member Posts: 154
    edited January 2008

    Yes they work together. My married life is diffinately not normal. DH and ex-wife story. I'll try to make it short and not so sweet. DH before I came into picture.

    Act one: Dr. just graduated from Med school. At age of 29, very busy, very goodlooking, single.

    Act two: Single, unwedmother at 16, drops out of school, finished with GED and now at 20 works as a nurses assistant with Young Medical Dr.

    Act Three: Weird fact: these two people have the same last name!!!

    1 1/2 years later, dear young dr. marries young assistant.

    Act Four: Married 14 years...During this time have 3 boys.

    Another weird Fact: Oldest son 13 years older than opps! I'm prego again (while wife files for a divorce a second time!, Oh I'm sorry I forgot to mention she filed for divorce twice, they canceled the first one because she got pregant with the youngest but refilled 23 days after delivery so she would get more childsupport as well as anotherr deducation on her income taxes. No kidding, it's in the divorce papers. All 157 of her demands and claims, in the end of their 2 1/2 year divorce she mananged to receive over $750,000.00 and still receive her $1500 a month child support for only 1 child full time with her and the wonderful 15 year old split joint custody. The oldest who is 21 now is off childsupport, But he costed us over $120,-000.00 in college (first year Cornell) then transfered back to Michigan State for 4 more years. He thinks he's going to be the next  Donald Trump, only his Daddies dime, because he has this fantisy idea that were loaded and he can just take our retirement funds to buy and sell crappy houses and just fix them up and sell them. Didn't $120,000 of financial studies 101 and Economics 101 tell these kids to FIND A JOB OF THEIR OWN FIRST. Stop relying on Mommy & Daddy and Step-momies (they love me again when they need something) AND GROW UP!!!!!

    OH, OH, I didn't tell the weird thing about the kids, the first son born, and the last son (the whoops baby) were born on the same day. They both have the same birthday in June.

    So Recap: They both have the same last name before marriage, and 1 out of 3 kids have the same birthday, how weird is that?

    I'll continue "how my life turns...."tune in tomorrow...

    Sharon

  • jade56068
    jade56068 Member Posts: 584
    edited January 2008

    Sharon-

    It always amazes me that (some) parents cant see what is happening right infront of their eyes.  I have named this tragic "mind fart" the "Oh no, not MY child" disease"....and alot of americanos have it.  Its the sister disease to " lack of personal responcability".

    The cure is very simple, yet hard to "get".  I think you are doing the right thing.  I would tweak it just alittle by, saying less and dumping all the things you find on the ex wives,and your husbands desk (like you have been doing).  Silence can hurt the ears too:<}. 

    As for the violent step son....It is your house and you make the rules.  I believe until a child moves out of the home.....he or she has NO privacy.  The trick is NEVER give away this info.  Letting them think they have it, gives us the opertunitly to always find it, sit on it, then, when we put alot of thought into our action...collectivly (as a team) do something about it.  UNITED WE STAND, DEVIDED WE FALL!!!!!!! 

    Good parents will always have kids hate them between the ages of 13-17.  We are not on this planet to befriend our children.  Many devorcies are always trying to make happy happy joy joy with their kids out of guilt from ripping the family apart.  I always tell my 10 year old daughter and my 8yr old son....."you guys are so lucky to have soooo many friends....I am better then a friend, I am YOUR MOMMY".

    Good luck I will never be the parent to say "not my kid".

    J

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited January 2012

    Teri, super congratulations on your promotion!  Sharon, keep on sharing..you have friends here who will listen to every word, and be on your side. <3

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited January 2012

    Jean.. Squid ink in your pasta!  You are a true Venetian!

  • denise1956
    denise1956 Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2008

    Dear Teri,

    What great news to wake up too. I am so happy for you I am sure you deserved that raise. What exactly do you do? As Hanna said I too could see you doing QVC or HSN you look so cute in your pic. You have a great personality. Keep going girl and be strong!!! By the way it was I that questioned the brach testing my breast surgeon did not think it was necessary for me.  I am the only one in my family to have breast cancer. Plus I guess that the type of cancer as well has some play with her ideas.Well I know nothing about my fathers side of the family. I too have 2 girls aged 20 and 25. I not only worry about being around for them but am very concerned that they should be tested. Not yet but after they have children . Which wont be for a very very long time.. I hope.

    Things are healing up a little bit now . Will be going to the ps tom we will talk about the size difference . But the girls are not that bad I am not that scared to look at them anymore.

    Ohh Teri  I almost forgot . Great news I can only fit about one finger in between them now so yes the four finger space is gone HURRAY!!!!

    Ladies have your self a great day today!!

    Denise

  • denise1956
    denise1956 Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2008

    Sharon,

    Just sending you big hugs your way. No one should go thru that kind of abuse . This kid does not realize now how lucky he is to have some one like your self to care for them. So should the husband. They need guidance and believe me you might not think that you are getting thru to them but somewhere I think when they light the next joint up hopefully he will think about the incident and think twice. I know its far feteched to think this way. We cant give up on our children. I have one daughter who I can scare the pants off . She was really pretty good that would be my oldest. My youngerst  daughter fears no one or nothing. Everyday she walks out that door I pray to G-D she returns. Dont get me wrong she is a great kid but loves to have fun she is 20. Likes to drink but I really dont think that she does any drugs. I can be nieve. But I too check her room. She used to smoke pot when she was 17 but it didnt agree with her (how Lucky for me). You just hold on tight to your convictions and I am very proud of you. I just hope that the husband supports you. Today should be a day for you to just rest try to find a mindless book to delve into and forget for a moment about yesterday. Hey by the way don't feel guilty for one moment about returning back to work. I have not returned since  my lumpectomy in sept. I am so looking forward to going back hopefully within the next week or too. 

    Please take time for youself !!!

    Denise

  • Sharon67
    Sharon67 Member Posts: 154
    edited January 2008

    Thank you all for your words of encouragement and concern. Isn't it funny how I can rant and rave to total strangers in black and white letters on a screen, and these total strangers can make the color seem more clear. Thank you again, all so much. Today I guess is a little better, although I just feel drained and very emotional. I had to go in for blood work today and also a few ultrasounds, it seems mother nature may have round two in store for me. I already have the blood work back (I have connections in the Lab) at the bottom it said: CVRB: Critical Value Read Back. Does anyone know what that means. My Dr. will probably not get the results in their office until Thursday along with the Ultrasound results from the Radioligist. I requested copies of those results also, but he wasn't in during my screening. One of the tests was a CA125 but I didn't think that was done right away. I could be wrong.

    As far as the stepson goes, his mother has grounded him, but I still do not have a clue where my laptop computer is. I swear, that boy can make me so angry! Hopefully he tell's DH where it is or that child is going to have one heck of a time with only one skate for hockey practice! (ya, I know, it's childish, but sometimes I just have to get back at the little s***!)

    Well hopefully tonight, I'll be writting from my favorite chair, next to the fireplace, with the laptop on my lap.

    Sharon

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited January 2012

    Sharon67, could the Critical Value Read Back possibly mean there was more on the back of the printout but you didn't get it because they only printed the first side?  Aren't critical values when something reads a little high or a little low - like glucose reading a little high from too much sugar or electrolytes being a little low from being dehydrated?  Hopefully, this cvrb thing is nothing to be real concerned about.   Hope things get better for you soon ~ 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Hanna



    The ink is in the pasta, not on top of it. The pasta does not have a strange taste, just looks funny as it's black. Tastes yummy.

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited January 2012

    Well then Jean, you're just gonna have to post the recipe!  ps - how do you get the ink out of the squid? 

  • Linda-L
    Linda-L Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2008

    Wow, Sharon and Jean--as if life wasn't throwing enough problems at you anyway!  You have my sympathies.   Try to keep thinking positive thoughts.

    Sharon, my local paper runs a column called Ex-Etiquette written by two women who are the wife and ex-wife of the same guy.  Their advice is always solid and they have good ideas.  They've written a book called Ex-Etiquette for Parents. 

    Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Ex-Etiquette-Parents-Behavior-Divorce-Separation/dp/1556525516/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201140206&sr=8-1

    It might be worth a try.

    I went back to square one on decision-making after so much pain with my expanders.  Maybe venting does help, because the day after I vented about it here, they suddenly felt a lot better.  I rethought my whole reconstruction decision, went back and listened to the tapes I'd made of my initial consults with the surgeon and plastic surgeon, which really helped.  Checked out breastfree.org.  Two days ago I was ready to just remove the expanders and be flat.  Then I decided since I was already partway into the process, I'd go ahead and give it a chance.  Today I had my first fill and it wasn't too bad.  Took Motrin and now, 4 hours later, I have a little soreness but it's not as bad as the expanders felt a couple of weeks ago!  I figured I'll go ahead and give implants a try, but if there's a problem, out they come and I'll go flat.  Some compromise, huh?  Making the recon decision has been one of the hardest decisions of my life.  So many pros and cons for each alternative.  DH of 38 years says he doesn't care what I look like, just that I'm alive.  =)

  • Linda-L
    Linda-L Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2008

    I forgot to say that I have a name for these new little bumps--I am calling them my booblets!  =)

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited January 2012

    Linda-L, Wow, you are really bringing home that this part of the whole bc stuff is not life threatening.  It doesn't have to be permanent.  I hear so much here about the pain and on other threads about the unhappiness of some, and I say SOME women who are not happy with the implants.  Or any reconstructive attempt. 

    You have really lifted a burden off me and probably quite a few women who have been feeling like this implant process is and has and must be the permanent and final and irrevocable step. 

    I just loved your expression about how you'll give them a try, go thru the process, but if there's a problem - out they'll come and you'll go flat!  You know I've heard that from woman breast surgeons too.  Somehow, what you've said makes me feel relief. 

    Thank you!! You know, I had a simple mastectomy which leaves the muscle intact and I just wonder if going flat, but having some nipple grafts put on anyway might be an answer too.  Kind of like being more like a 11 year old again.  I guess it's all within the realm of possibility. 

    I believe I'll start thinking like you - it sure will take a load off!

    Thanks and have a great night!  ~ Hanna 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Hannah

    Try Ciao Italia or foodnetworks's websites. Lots of great recipes. The pasta is black, give it a try. (I make my own sauce, generally, but Barelli is great.

    You haven't started your expanders yet? I am not sure I woudl go thru this again, had I been told how painful and time consuming it would be. Gee, by the time this is over - it will have been a YEAR and seven (7) surgeries. As, I was not informed until AFTER my mast/reconst that all the cacner had been removed at the time of my lumpectomy, I would have only needed the first surgery and not have had my beasts removed. I worry everyday about this expanding and it effect on my pacemaker. (and it's effect on my heart.)



    LInda: My chest felt terrible until I had my first fill, then for some reason it felt better. The same after the second fill. However this last fill started hurting the next day and has continued until today. Tomorrow I have another fill. I started with 200cc, and the additional fills were 60cc, however I am not sure what the third one was, as I think they used almost all of the saline in the bag. Maybe 100? His nurse said he normally only fills 60 but on ocassion will go 100. Good luck with yours. I hope you have no major issues.

  • denise1956
    denise1956 Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2008

    Hanna,

    Have u been watching too much Rachael Ray??

    Denise

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited January 2012

    Denise ~ Yeah, that's what I do LOL....I go to a drive-thru (I cycle through about gosh, it must be like 15 if you include the donut place which now has a drive-thru too!!!) pick up the food, bring it back to the hungry masses, then plop down in front of the Food Network channel to watch food being made while I eat!!  How crazy is that?  It's the way to achieve the full sensory experience of eating!!!  And, the amazing totally mind-boggling thing is by watching food being cooked and eating at the same time --- I don't eat as much!  It's like a new diet - hey, you and me - we should patent this as a diet, get some celeb's to try it out and we get to become rich Cha-cha's!!  With new Tatta's!!  Go figure!

    Chow bebe! 

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited January 2012

    So Jean, I have to order this squid ink pasta online then?  Do I google it?  Ok, this is a true challenge for me.  I am now going to google for squid ink pasta.  The Barilla sauce is fine - I can get that at my grocery store, I can also get artichoke pasta which is pretty good.  But I really have to get some of this black squid ink pasta and see what the DH has to say.  I should video him!  So how do we post video's on here.  Oh, us being able to post video's like YouTube here would be an awesome new feature.  We should start this up tomorrow with the admins!! 

    Oh and Jean, yes I am expanding as we speak, or write I guess.  Yep. But I have more time yet before my exhange. OH, I don't know why I'd rather talk food than boobs.. this is after all a gripe site for painful expando girls.  And newly implanto girls.  Have you all noticed we have lost Margaret.  Boo-Hoo!  I hope she's ok.  Maybe just has lots of papers to grade cause she's a teacher or maybe she's just moved into another thread. We could expand this thread to unhappy after exchange for implants? 

    To one and all -- you are welcome here whether you are expanding in pain or no pain or have your implants and are grumpy about them or happy about them or just plain want them OUT!

    Nite-nite.  I sleepy tonight ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz hanna zzzzzzzz

  • denise1956
    denise1956 Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2008

    Hey there girlie girls!!!

    Hanna you do crack me up!! I like the diversion myself. Food is my passion. Haven't had much of an appetite since the exchange. I had a minor set back  ,but this morning ps took care of that. Remember I told u guys that the right was larger than the left. Well it turns that that I had a hemotoma (pardon me if I spelled that wrong). Today he drained it while I was awake turns out not to be such a big deal.Came home and I am resting.

    Funny thing I was thinking about Margaret also and where is that girlie girl Teri been?

    Well girls have to go and rest up now .

    Have a great day!!!

    Denise

  • nik
    nik Member Posts: 34
    edited January 2008

    teri,

    great news on your promotion! i am so happy something is finally going right for you!

    i am also happy to report that i started "pool physical therapy" on tuesday and i have to say.......really nice!

    alot of aches and pains but the water is a constant 92 degrees and the underwater stretches really feel great!

    so great that this week that i opted to have 60/60 fills rather than 30/30!

    maybe this will move things along a little faster now!

    listen girls! if you have the opportunity for pool p/t....do it! you are talking to someone who has been in constant pain for the last 2 1/2 months (bilateral with node biopsy) and the pool really eases the pain! makes me feel a little normal again!!!!

    i tried land therapy and there were just too many aches!

    thanks to all of you girls that helped me thru my crisis last week...it was really scarry when i woke up and one of the expanders had dropped about 3 inches lower than the other!!! my p/s said it's normal for them to "settle"

    funny thing...i was visiting my mothers and told her about the settling...she said...that's ridiculous....houses settle...people don't!!!!

    some people just don't get it!!!!!!!!!!

    anyway, must start dinner now (which i really haven't had any inkling to do for months!!!!!) talk to you all soon!

    nik

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Hanna, I sent you a PM, check it out.



    Has anyone developed pain on their RIBS?

    I am having another fill today, but experiencing a lot of pain on one side. The bottom of the expanders feels like its pushing into one of my ribs. I would love to reach in there and lift it up if only for a minute or two. I haven't taken any pain meds since I started these fills, as they actually seemed to feel better after the fills than before. However since my fill, I have been in so much pain I am unable to find a comfortable way to sleep. I was given a number of pain meds for my surgery and all of them upset my stomach, and really did little to nothing for the pain. The pain has been so bad I've been taking compazine for nausea!

  • denise1956
    denise1956 Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2008

    Jean,

    Sorry to hear about all the pain. I too had terrible pain through out the expansion. My ribs felt like they were cracking the pressure was very intense. Now after the exchange my ribs still hurt, because i have to wear a bra that lays on them, but its so much better. I too cant take pain killers because they make my stomach upset. My regular Dr. who knows how much of a baby I can be with meds suggested that I take darvaset at night a very mild painkiller that does not contain codeine so its better for the system. Then on really bad nights(with the okay from my Dr.)like the day of the fills along with the darvaset I took half of a muscle relaxer called Soma . I was finally able to at least get 4 hours of restful sleep. You have to find out what works for you. During the day even if you take Advil or Tylenol every 4 hours it sometimes takes the edge off. Trust me I hated taking anything but sometimes you have too. How much longer do you have before the exchange? Let me tell you what a difference a day makes. I don't miss my coconuts!!!!

    Ciao

    Denise

  • Sociologist
    Sociologist Member Posts: 237
    edited January 2008

    Hi Ladies,

    I'm still lurking around but not posting as much right now (school's kicking my butt!). The person I hired to teach my night class was a no show so I've been trying to move students around to other classes and stuff. I hate the beginning of the semester because there's so much stuff to do in getting things done for my online classes for sure. My office is being moved but not until I can get computer access and a desk (got a locking file cabinet delivered Wednesday so I don't have to carry all my stuff home the days I go on campus-yea!!!). It's currently on the 3r floor of the building (an of course no elevator since Hurricane Katrina) so I'm not liking the schlepping of my stuff all the time up and down 3 flights of stairs! And, I'm up for my first teaching promotion (from Instructor to Assistant Professor) and have to get my promotion packet together for review by the higher ups. Of course, lost all of my promo backup material in Katrina so now have to find everything I can to recreate the documents if possible (it sucks...I don't remember everything I've done school related for the past 4 years). The final decisions aren't made until May so I get to be on pins-and-needles for a bit longer. The process kinda reminds me of getting a colonoscopy: lots of prep work, looking around for stuff, then done in 30 minutes!

    Hanna and Denise-Yes I am always lurking around and gathering info on things because I'm a nosy sociologist!  I could never leave this board! I share some stuff with my students (especially the humor)because I want them to see that even in your darkest most painful times, having a sense of humor about stuff really helps!

    Jean-The rib pain is the worst! My expanders found a home on the first 2 ribs and it was absolutely miserable. That particular pain should be reserved for your worst enemy but it does go away as soon as you have the exchange. Of course, there may be new pains with that but it's a different type of pain. I took flexeril for the muscle spasms/rib pain throughout the expansion; 5 mg. during the day when I didn't have to drive or do much else and 10mg. at night so I could sleep. It takes the edge off for sure. I hope everything else is going okay for you. Squid-ink pasta, hmmmmm? I think I'd have a hard time getting past the name!

    On Children-It sucks they don't come with instructions or the ability to return them (I love the return policy with HSN; one month)! Children give you your greatest joy and your greatest sorrow. We've been through hell with our youngest son and sometimes I didn't think we'd make it through the other side (or that he'd live long enough to become an adult because I wanted to kill him!). He started acting out at 12 by shoplifting, did a stint in juvenile detention, straigthened up for about 5 years, started taking/selling drugs, went to prison, the whole 9 yards. He's now clean and sober for the past 5 years, been out of prison 1 1/2 years, and in college studying to be a social worker (his drug dealing caught up with him 2 years after he stopped selling/using). He wants to work in the prison and impart what he's been through to others to give them hope that things can and do change (with lots of work). The good thing is that everything passes with time but while you're going through it, it's practically unbearable. Venting helps for sure; I kept a journal for years and wrote out everything I wanted to say but didn't (I try not to ever say anything I'd regret; you can't take words back no matter how hard you try). 

    Got to get started answering student mail; I had about 100 e-mails yesterday from students and was tied to my computer so long I thought I'd develop DVT from not moving out of my chair! Yall have a great pain-free day!

    Margaret

  • texas94
    texas94 Member Posts: 204
    edited January 2008

    Hi everyone- I too experience the rib pain before and after expansions (it feels like someone is standing on my chest, to say the least). And the worst pain comes when I am sleeping.  I have found these things help TREMENDOUSLY:

    1. Valium- my dr prescribed this for me to take at night to sleep. It helps relax the muscles that are really angry about the expansion and causing pain (and it helps you sleep, which is a problem when you're in pain).

    2. Deep massage all around the expander implant. I use a shea butter cream and do this every night. It really helps relax the area around them.

    3. Slow, careful stretches.  Do them slow and push yourself only until you feel more than a little pain.

    4. Hot showers or baths.

    5. Don't push yourself at your expansion appointments. I went for 100cc in each one last time, thinking I had done 70 before and been fine.  I felt fine until that evening, then I spent the next week in a lot of pain, which was just plain stupid on my part.

    Hope this helps someone out there.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Margaret & ehk



    Thanks for the info on pain meds. Last night was the first time I have taken pain meds since my bilateral mast/recon. I took Tylenol w/Codeine. It wasn't strong enough, so I guess I'll try the Valium. IF that doesn't work I still have some Oxicoden (sp). I was given all of these for pain after surgery, plus something else but I forgot what it is. They all upset my stomach and/or did not relieve the pain. That rib pain is unbelievable. It feels like something is stuck in between my ribs.



    My PS has given me 4 weeks before my last fill, which will be only 12 days before my exchange. He also looked at my elbow and said he will repair it for me, so no need for the extra surgeon. My PS is performs hand/arm PS as well as breast reconstruction and is well known in both fields. (I cannot believe it but he performs these surgeries every day....not even a day off for golf!)

  • bonny2
    bonny2 Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2008

    I am 3 years out and I can say that the pain for me ended about 1 year after my recon.  That is after they removed the expanders and put in the salines and did the nipple recon and tattoo's.  So, I have been out of pain for about 2 years now. 

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited January 2012
  • Linda-L
    Linda-L Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2008

    Jean--

    Yes, I still have pain on my ribs, esp. in front.  I asked my PS about in on Wed. and she said, yes, remember there was breast tissue down there that was removed (to bottom of ribcage), plus when she puts in the expanders she puts them under the pecs but also the serratus muscle (rib-lifters), so expect some pain to continue during the expansion process.  She did the first expansion and I was fine that day but woke up the next morning feeling engorged (remember when the baby slept through the night the first time? =)) and hard and sore.  A Valium and a couple of Motrin and I was feeling fine again.  Today (2 days after fill) I haven't taken anything.  Feeling a little stretched and sore, but not too bad.  I'm afraid to massage them--it just feels so strange, hard and numb and everything.  Guess I'll have to get over that!   =)  One strange thing I've found to help the rib/expander pain is to grab a handful of belly and squeeze pretty hard.  It distracts your brain and the pain nerve circuits, and I can actually feel my pecs relax when I do this.  Weird!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2008

    Linda:



    How many fills have you had? Have they been around 60cc? I started with 200 and then had 2 fills of 60cc. I forgot to ask the nurse if they over filled them last time as that was the first time they really hurt and the pain never stopped. In fact, when I saw my PS on Thursday, he asked me if I wanted to wait another week for my fill.

    Maybe the additional weight is causing the pain on the ribs or the rib lifters (serratus muscles) as you said. I never thought of it before but, you're right, it does feel a lot like being engorged when breast feeding. Unfortunately, we cannot just wake the baby, and nurse for a while to take the edge off. I definately need something tonight for the pain, before I attempt to lay down. I may also try the massage. I have never looked forward to a surgery as much as the exchange. Five and 1/2 weeks and counting.

  • Hanna60978
    Hanna60978 Member Posts: 815
    edited January 2013

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