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Good afternoon all,
Sorry I have been out of the email for awhile. 3 kids and basketball and 8th grade social. I try to keep my focus on my kids rather than my treatment at times. Anywho, had my 3rd A/C treatment today...1 more to go before I start Taxol. Dr says its lighter than this treatment. Knock on wood, but I have not had it really bad with this treatment. I carry crackers where ever I go and water. I finally shaved my head on Friday. Tired of the little hairs falling out. I am still working full time and also went to guard this past weekend (NHANG). The guys all shaved their heads in support of me and bc. Amazing how many of them have been touched by someone w/this awful disease. I read a book recently called "Nordie's at Noon". Written by 4 YOUNG women dx w/bc. It was very inspirational to me. I cried on and off but there are so many things that it makes you think about that I would recommend it. They also have a website www.nordiesatnoon.com . One of the women was 5 months pregnant at time of diagnosis. She then went on and had another baby years after.
This last shot of Neulasta did not give me leg cramps. I took ibuprofen 1hr before the shot. I have also added flaxseed oil to my oatmeal for breakfast. I have also talked w/my onc about taking L cartinine (sp?) when I start the Taxol. He highly recommended it. He also said they did a study on it for fatigue...If it helps w/fatigue and neuropathy...GREAT and it doesn't cost big bucks like Neulasta. He said I can also take milk thistle if I like (suppose to help cleanse the liver).
Bobbi,Thanks for the info on avastin. pta, I also am a maineiac!! GOOOOOOOO Patriots!!
Carolyn
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wvgirl-Did your onc give you a script for lorazepam? This is what I take at night due to the steroids. NO problem sleeping. It says you can take 1 or 2....1 works fine for me!
Carolyn
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Thanks for the info on flaxseed and Ativan. The last (and probably only) thing she has a problem after chemo is sleeping, but she does get overall muscle aches and pains after her Neulasta, so I'll give her the info. Also good news about fertility concerns. And--Carolyn! I'm with you GO PATS!! I'm in Farmington, BTW.
I only get to MA every six weeks (for every-other treatment), what with gas costing what it does and then I have to board my two dogs.
She has gotten different messages about ibuprofen because of the anemia she gets after the tx, even with Neulasta. I thought it might be because of the antiplatelet effect. Must check on this again.
One other thing--do I recall correctly or didn't they have a smaller BC walk in Portland last year? Not sure if I can make the one in Boston in May.
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Thank you Sadie. I shall speak to my Onc next week aobu the mag & cal.
Hang in there everybody...what's that saying...Even after a storm there is a rainbow (or something to that effect). My thoughts and prayers are with you all.
My rads onc had me on capsuls of Omega 3 fish oil, tumeric, and rubbing pure olive oil on my breast to keep it lubed good. Oh, and also spraying a teaspoon or more of salt to a quart of water. I spray that twice a day and let air dry before putting on Eucerin location or Eucerin cream and the oil. I told her I feel like a salad.;-)
In any case, now that I'm down to the last 7 txs, she's changed up and will have me buy Bourdeaux's diaper rash ointment Only for the direct spot of where the tumor was and where they'll do the boost of radiation. Otherwise, just the Eucerin lotion in the other spot below the surgery spot 7 oil if it soothes me. They will sketch the areas with markers so I know exactly where to make the seperation. She indicated I was right on schedule and she was very pleased. She's now hoping the skin does not break down and need to have me rest any extra time. My Dr. said this cream is good to use down the road, but to stop several weeks before another mamo because it is a heavy cream that stays on your skin and sometimes gives false markings. I've been blessed I know it.
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Just finished my 3rd dose of A/c yesterday. I feel great!! I am not sure if my body is getting used to these drugs or its the steroids! Anyways, its the best I felt since starting. My cold is almost gone so that could be another reason why. 1 more to go. Then vaca to Florida!! Too much snow here. Husband is ready to go South! Keeping positive and everyday is a good day
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Carolyn thank you for the information on Lorazepam. I will see my onc this wed I will let them know about my lack of sleep and ask about it.
I am on day 14 and my hair is falling out real bad. I am going to have it shaved off tomorrow. Wig is on standby
I also had Neulasta shot I did not have much pain (nothing Advil didn't help).
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wvgirl: My hair started falling out on day 17th and by day 21 I had decided it was time for a very short haircut! Makes the drains a lot happier. I am comfortable going hatless indoors at the office but think it can make customers nervous. Due to winter, hats are where its at. Tried a wig but couldn't stand it. I am happy that the shot didn't affect you like it did me. I still have a cough from the start of chemo. It comes and goes, but mostly comes. i am looking forward to my last A/C on the 28th. I had an old client stop in my office to drop off a book on Tong Ren by Tom Tam. Oriental way of healing w/mind. Dana Farber and Harvard Cancer Center were interested in a pilot program on the way he heals. I have to read more of the book to see where it will take me.
I am glad all are doing well and am sending good wishes to all.
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Wvgirl,
I just noticed your picture with your post. I have a Cairn Terrier that looks just like the picture. I got her a couple of weeks before my diagnosis. She sure has been a lot of entertainment through this entire journey.
Sadie
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welcome Carolyn - sorry you have to join us here, but you will find a great comfort and support from these powerful and brace women...who is your onc? is it by any chance Tom Openshaw?? i had a very similar dx and tx plan...but Avastin wasn't available yet...you can do this... let me know how i can help you....gentle hugs from Holly
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Carolyn,
I am very interested in the fact that you also took avastin during your treatments. I am stage 2b, 3 out of 20 positive nodes, trip neg. I just started chemo on 1-14 so just had one treatment. A/C every two weeks then 12 taxols---I'm also doing a third phase trial with avastin...wont know if I'm actually getting the drug or not til last treatment. I had a horrible side effect....at least I think it was horrible on the 4th and 5th day after treatment. amazing pressure in my head, especially ear area, dizziness, it was horrible and I could hardly stand it. Thought I was loosing my mind. Scarey. Did you ever experience anything like this?
Teresa
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Good morning all,
Rough night w/10 12yr old girls here for my daughters bday party. I made it thru though!! No takers on shaved heads though. thanks for the welcome Holly. I am on the opposite coast as you...yes, I am a mainiac. My onc is John Eneman. Great guy and very open to my questions/suggestions. I also consult w/my cousins wife in England who had the same exact dx as myself and she is studying nutritional medicine. My other cousin in Canada is also into growing organic and using herbal medicines. I always consult w/my onc for anything. I did have elevated liver enzymes after the 1st treatment, but started drinking 1oz of Nonni and adding flaxseed oil in the morning and my enzyme had dropped this last time by 42. (onc said it really wasn't that high to begin with but was happy after this last blood work that it was just over). Maybe positive energy??
Teresa, Sounds like you and I are on the same plan of attack. In regards to side effects...I did have to stay in bed for a wicked headache (didn't get up til late morning after taking aleve) which I couldn't decide if it was from the steroids (since it was the weekend and I do chemo on Monday), or the avastin. I did talk to my onc about it where he told me to either take 1 dexameth on thurs or be prepared on friday to start taking advil for headache. Well, I started with the later. I take aleve on Friday (maybe 2-1 morning, 1 night). This last Saturday was much better but I only had a SLIGHT headache. I took a shower (to open the mucus membranes of my nose) and then took 2 aleves. I was good most of the day. I also put a humidifyer next to my bed. I also use a saline spray for my nose which was running at the beginning but now drys out much. I also have some days that my ears are blocked. But, this past Tues after my 3rd cycle I felt Great only to get blah on Wed. I find days 4,5 are the worst days. those days happen to be the weekend which I can stay in bed. I am going to a support mtg tonight where they have a speaker talking about NEW bc treatment. so I am looking forward as to what he has to say. Will share. I've rambled enough. Hope this helps. keep the faith and spirits up and be surrounded by positive people because the negatives can really take away a lot from you. Lots of fun hats help too!
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Hello Everyone,
My name is Beth and I haven't posted in a while. I think the last time was mid Dec. I was dx in Nov with bc and have had the lumpectomy, SNL biopsy and the port placement surgery. Along with all that I thought for a time there that I may have ovarian cancer as well. Jan 8th I had abdominal surgery to remove my last ovary, thank God it was negative for cancer. The surgery took 5 hours and has been painful to recover. Three weeks after surgery I still have an open wound that is draining. I am hoping that on Thursday they will steri strip it closed so that I can try to move on with the chemo. Needless to say my oc will not start chemo until the wound is healed enough to avoid infection. I hope to find out exactly what my treatment plan will be next week.
I know I have to do the chemo and the radiation. I was hoping to have several of the chemo treatments out of the way before I have to go back to work. I am out of work for the 6 week recovery from the surgery and this would be the perfect time to get started and get use to the side effects. Things just don't always go the way you want them to.
Back in Dec I had prepared myself for the chemo and even went before I had the surgery in Jan and got my hair cut short so that I would be ready. Now more delays. The ups and downs are really starting to take their toll on the emotions. I find myself crying at the simplest things.
What kind of steroids are usually prescribed? The last time that I took a steroid my skin hurt to the touch. Has anyone ever had that reaction?
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Hi Beth,
I have taken Dexamethodone and have done fine with it. I just finished my last cycle of A/C w/Avastin. I start the next phase of Taxol on Feb 11th. I gather that one comes with its own side effects. The A/C wasn't too bad on me. I did get blah days with my stomache but besides that it was doable. I felt blah on Tues (had chemo Monday). I have felt good today. A little bit of a headache but that is due to sinuis's. Nose not being good today. Forgot my spray at home. Hope all are doing well.
Teresa, I had my 4th treatment and think I am getting the real thing on the trial. I have had 1 day of bloody noses. Each side. Morning and afternoon. Not sure if you have any sort of cough. I have a slight cough. Eyes are a little teary. I am hoping I am done w/the neulasta shots!! I really do not want anymore of those.
Any good information out there for the next phase of doing Taxol? I started taking Acetyl-l-cartinine which is suppose to help w/neuropathy. My taste buds haven't changed much. No metallic tasting or anything of that nature.
Keeping the faith for all!
Carolyn
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Hi Beth,
I have taken Dexamethodone and have done fine with it. I just finished my last cycle of A/C w/Avastin. I start the next phase of Taxol on Feb 11th. I gather that one comes with its own side effects. The A/C wasn't too bad on me. I did get blah days with my stomache but besides that it was doable. I felt blah on Tues (had chemo Monday). I have felt good today. A little bit of a headache but that is due to sinuis's. Nose not being good today. Forgot my spray at home. Hope all are doing well.
Teresa, I had my 4th treatment and think I am getting the real thing on the trial. I have had 1 day of bloody noses. Each side. Morning and afternoon. Not sure if you have any sort of cough. I have a slight cough. Eyes are a little teary. I am hoping I am done w/the neulasta shots!! I really do not want anymore of those.
Any good information out there for the next phase of doing Taxol? I started taking Acetyl-l-cartinine which is suppose to help w/neuropathy. My taste buds haven't changed much. No metallic tasting or anything of that nature.
Keeping the faith for all!
Carolyn
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Carolyn,
I just had my second A/C treatment. I had kind of a rough time last time. I also have treatment on mondays and by friday of that week I was having major sinus problems, dizziness and pressure especially in my ears. Well I'm having some of that now but not as bad, at least not yet. I haven't had an actual nose bleed but spotting when I blow my nose. After each treatment I had a raspy voice for a few days, doctor said that can be a side effect of the avastin and the watery eyes. And I have been having headaches for the last 2 days...I hate it.
So will you be taking the avastin when you start the taxol too? I will.
I just keeping telling myself I'm have way through the a/c and it helps...lol.
Teresa
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Sadie
We have had our dog Oscar for 2 years now he is very entertaining
I had treatment 2 last Friday and shot Sat only SE's mouth sores and constapation and of course really tried this week ...after chemo.
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Hi Wvgir,
Hang on to the fact that you are half way through the AC.
You mentioned your mouth is tender. My dentist told me about a mouth wash and tooth paste that is very gentle and non-drying for the delicate tissue in your mouth during treatment. The brand name is Biotene. It might help.
I understand being really tired. I didn't realize how much fatigue had impacted my daily life until a long time after treatment. The first sign of a change for me was when I didn't have to take a rest mid day. Now, I feel better than before my diagnosis.
My oncologist gave me a medication to prevent mouth sores and had me take a laxative during chemo therapy. I wish I remembered the name of the medication because I didn't have any mouth sores.
My dentist told me to come in anytime I had a problem even without an appointment. I didn't have to do that. I thought I would mention that my dentist asked me to get an electric tooth brush and a water pic too. I am really glad I did because most of us have some trouble with our gums after treatment so I am still using them.
I hope you take really good care of yourself during this challenging time. Throw a blanket in the dryer and wrap yourself in it. It is very nuturing.
Warmly,
Sadie
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thanks Sadie for all the tips.
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Teresa; I have had sinuis problems I feel from the 1st dose. Constant running nose, some blood when I blow, very tender nose. I have used saline solution and now am putting petro jelly inside of my nose which seems to help the membranes stay moist (my onc recommended it). Only had 3 nose bleeds so far but they had stopped w/in 15 minutes. I think some of the slight headaches can be attributed to the nose. I would agree that my voice has changed...definitely different. Sometimes it sounds like i have a cold and other times rasppy. This last A/C kinda kicked me. I felt blah (stomache) when they started the infusion. Not sure why. It hadn't happened before. I'm starting the second week of no chemo. Next Monday when I start the Taxol I will also be doing Avastin. The regiment is every 3rd week. I don't think, but am not sure if I will do avastin at my treatment since it will have been 2 weeks from a/c. I am heading to Florida on vaca the end of the week and will miss my 2nd taxol. The trial team said it was fine and would add another week onto the end of my treament. So I will not finish the chemo til the 1st week in May. As long as I can vaca in FL and get out of the cold/snow. I had my military weekend (this past) and had to get drug tested!! I'm interested in how many positives come up on the prescription side because they do test for steroids! My test may confuse the heck out of them because it was a chemo week and w/all the junk they put in me I probably went over the limit of more drugs than urine! My eyes have been bothering me quite a bit this last week. Hadn't had that before. I still have my eyebrows and eyelashes. Eyelashes have gotten quite thin on the right eye though. Not as full. Not sure if you have a cough. I have been having a dry and wet cough. Started taking mucienex and it helps suppress the cough. I am home today because my youngest is sick and since I worked all weekend I don't mind staying home to get extra rest. One of the young Airman in my unit talked to me about a tea her uncle (he's an herbalist) makes. Can't remember the name but she says he makes it for a friend of hers who is going thru chemo and it helps him feel better and helps with the fatigue. She is seeing him this week to get me some and I will let you know what i think or feel. I drink tea a lot. Tried green, mango, earl grey etc. Tea helps settle my stomache. I have gone on long enough. Stay strong and think positive. I look at this treatment like you. I have endured the first regiment of treatment and now am anious to start the next because it means I am closer to the finish line.
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so it definitely looks like its the same trial. I can't wait to be done with this A/C. I went and had lab today and my counts are in the toilet...AGAIN. So I have to stay in the house for a few days to avoid getting sick. I hope taxol is kind to you. Please let me know how it goes and any tricks you come up with.
I hope you enjoy florida....I plan on going there on vacation as soon as this treatment is over....it's going to be a reward to myself. I can't wait. Where in florida are you going?
Teresa
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I gather we definitely are doing the same trial. You will get done w/the A/C part. It went by pretty quickly. I think the last dose was the hardest. I was on Christmas vaca when I had the first dose so I had 2 weeks of not having to rush around w/3 kids. In regards to my labs, I've only had 6 items off and they were barely off. So I must be eating right and taking the Flaxseed oil and nonni I think have attributed to my labs getting better (my personal point). I did give up coffee due to the effects on my stomache. I am still going to my kids basketball games but try to stay away from anyone whose coughing etc. I did stay home yesterdy w/my youngest who was sick. We stayed away from each other for most of the day.
I am heading to St Augustine for a few days then off to Orlando so the kids can do Universal. My 2 youngest have not been able to ride the big rides previously on trips so this time we can all ride together. We plan on doing Busch Gardens again too. The rest of the time is relaxation. This is probably our 5th or 6th down to FL. The kids still get excited but no Disney. TOOOOO many people during school vaca.
I also just started taking the L-cartinine to help w/the taxol (hopefully the italians and americans were right w/their trials!!) in hopes of staving off neuropathy and fatigue. I really haven't felt any difference due to starting w/a low dose of 250mg. I forgot to tell you that sometimes my ears pop, like being on a plan. It happens once in a blue moon. My gums are bothering me and I use biotin rinse and toothpaste which does help but they are getting irritated on the upper left side. Not sure why. Hopefully it will go away with the Taxol...When do you do your next cycle? I found that if I drank 80oz's of water the 2 days before, it really helps w/no constipation. I also started eating prunes/apricots and metimucel pills. I only had a problem the first treatment and then this last treatment i had a little bit of the constipation. Nothing like the first though!! I hope you are feeling better and it does get better. I can tell (maybe not right this momoment). I look at the treatment as a goal and I am 2 months down and 3 to go (not including the rads).
I hope you have a wonderful day. As my Airman inscribed in a photo to me: Definition of Courage: Grace under pressure. (Ernest Hemingway). Isn't it the truth!
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carolynf, where did you get the info on l-caratinine and taxol. I start ac on next tuesday every two weeks for 4 cycles and then taxol every two for 4 more cycles. My dx was the same as yours just a bit bigger bump. What was your treatment?
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wetcoast: I did some research online and came across a trial that was done in Italy and cancer patients. They took acety-l-cartinine for neuropathy. I brought this printout w/me to my onc and didn't show him, I usually start out w/new questions on different treatments using natural etc. Anywho, I brought up the l-cartinine and he said yes, for fatigue, I said no, neuropathy. He said US did trial w/it for fatigue that helped cancer patients. So, his answer was go ahead and start taking it. I did not take it during A/C. I only took B12, flaxseed oil on my oatmeal every morning, and a shot of nonni juice in the AM. i go on and off w/caltrate and one a day. I have a hard time swallowing the one a days. I also started taking chronium picolate. All I know is that my labs are good and I guess what I am doing is keeping my body SOMEWHAT healthy. I dont' overdose on the vitamins. I also drink min of 80oz of H20 daily and 3 cups of tea. When I am feeling good I might indulge in a Shipyard brew or glass of vino. Most nights its a cup of tea! I will keep posting on any changes w/tingling of hands/feet on the taxol. BTW, my lump was exact as yours 1.7cm.
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