March on Washington June 2008
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I saw that everyone seems to like "dying for a cure" and the suggestion was made about camo T-shirts. I slapped this together to give you all an idea what they could look like:
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Badboob,
I love both of those T's!!!
Thanks for putting them together with the slogan!!
Bren
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I could probably put them up on cafepress or something. I used the bluecotton.com image of the camo T. I don't know if cafepress has those available. I certainly would have to do a better job with the ribbon image if they were to be put on T-shirts, though. I do want to include the NAME of the march and the dates whenever we have that settled. I suppose I could see what kind of profit margin there is at cafepress....maybe we could put most of the profits to a fund to help people with travel and lodging expenses to the march? I have never used cafepress, but don't really know of another way I could sell them.
Since I can't go, I could at least be there in spirit if someone wore one of the shirts.
Diane
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Hi Diane,
I didn't find the camo T's on cafepress.com. I could only find them on bluecotton.com.
Maybe cafepress would carry the camo T's. You have great ideas. I'll follow up tomorrow with a call to DC permit office. I think we'll be able to get better organized once we get a date.
Thanks,
Bren
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I would wear the shirt. I'm going to be in Washington D.C. in June. What date? The pink ribbon might look good on black? Thank you Diane. Your spirit at the march will be well-represented. Lolita
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Hi ladies! I did some checking and found the best prices on printfection.com. I don't know about cafepress carrying the camo shirts--I imagine they have contract suppliers and it might be a problem unless they were assured a large quantity of purchasers. My personal preference is to have the camo on the ribbon. Even though the design is bright, the pink on the camo shirt kind of disappears to my eye. Both cafepress and printfection have a number of colors available, so I guess it would be up to the purchaser. If they would be for the march, a single color choice for the shirt would probably be best. Having never ordered a product from either site, I wonder what the quality is. I am thinking about cleaning up my design, adding the "40,000", and ordering at least one of them for me to see what they are like. If nothing else, I know lots of my family and friends would order one! LOL! There are also other items like hats, pins, magnets, etc...it seems like once you upload the design, the options are endless.
Either site will let me set my own price over their base price. I think a minimum mark-up would be nice so that the cost is not too high for those who want one, but then maybe a mark-up is the way to go if we want to have a fund to help people get to the march. I don't receive disability so my personal finances are such that I would love to be able to earn a little something, but I don't feel like this is the way to do it. The base price at both sites is around $18; I didn't check on shipping charges.
I certainly don't want to impose my design, but know that you all were talking about shirts for the march. I enjoy this kind of work and would be happy to alter designs and let you all decide if you would like to use them. It would not bother me if you chose a different direction, so don't worry about hurting my feelings or anything like that if you go with something different.
I'll keep checking back. I sure hope that you get resolution on the date soon!
Diane
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Dear ladies, thank you very much for doing this.
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Hi Diane,
Here's another idea for the T's ... use the camo ribbon the way you've designed it on either the front or back of the shirt with the words "40,910 in 2008" (or 09) in black letters on the opposite side of the shirt. Very simple and sure to raise lots of questions.
Just another idea.
Keep them coming ... will call the Permit office in DC today.
Thanks,
Bren
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Diane,
Also, I have some ideas on a fund. I've checked into this before and there are different types that can be set up. I'll look into it again and get back to everyone with the different types and info about each.
What will be important when setting up a fund of this nature, is that trustees will be needed (legally) to oversee the fund. When I tried to set up a fund for a sister in need, I had to back out as I was not prepared to be the only trustee. We would need to set the fund up somehow as the Memorial March in DC fund with a committee overseeing the fund and the disbursement and mgt of the monies in the fund.
This opens up another whole area that needs to be explored.
Yikes ... we need our own forum and threads for this Memorial March. I'm going to have to keep after Melissa. Maybe some of you gals could help in writing to Melissa about getting our own forum for this too.
Thanks everybody,
Bren
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Hello ladies, this is some of my ideas:
Black t-sh and knife or ox with blood
1)Why me?
2)Breast cancer kills
3) Breast cancer kills 1 of 9( in California 1 of 7 )
4)Breast cancer = death
5) America - we need your help!
6) America - save your mothers!
7)40000 - why do we dye?
9)Breast cancer- silent killer
10)Breast cancer - terror on woman.
11)Protect our mothers - find a cure!
12)I want my mom to live!
13)I don't want to dye
14) what is my crime?
15) help find the cure
16) sentesed to death
17) it could be your mother...
18) Breast cancer-panishment without crime.
19)black t-sh,red cancer on the front and singh
I'm killing you,or - cancer kills.
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Fire,
Good to see you here!! Great ideas!!! Love'm. They would be great on signs.
Bren - I will pm Melissa when I get home.
As far as the fund goes, that could get kinda sticky. Maybe when I get my taxes done I will ask my accountant about it. Or, are their any accountants on the boards that could help with this??
Let's keep the dream alive!!!
Valerie
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MAJOR UPDATE!!
I just talked to the Park service. They have our permit application. We actually have a processing number and a contact person who is handling our application and working on it. Unfortunately he wasn't there when I called, but he will be back tomorrow!! So ... I'll call the man tomorrow and see what's going on. They lady kept wanting to know what our organization name was. Yikes. I just used my name on the permit, but put down the purpose as a Memorial March for the 40,910 who die each year of breast cancer.
Ohmygosh!! What if this really does happen this June 22nd!!!!
We're going to really need somebody who's good with PR and knows how to get the word out to the different breast cancer organizations!!
I'll let everyone know as soon as I hear something tomorrow.
love,
Bren
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Valerie,
I agree with you on the issue of the fund ... it can get very sticky. We will need to think this through very carefully.
Bren
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Hi! what a great thing you all are doing. Im thinking maybe I can do this. It would be nice to meet all of you and stand up for a cause. Gonna miss the cherry blossoms though.
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do you need to have a "name of the group" for the permit?
how about "Dying For A Cure"?
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A fund would be a real headache, not only keeping up with it, tax deductible? Giving out the money?
I'd say take a dollar or two of each order for you and give the rest to bc.org.???
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Hi Lori and Dotti,
Lori "Dying for a Cure" sounds good, so if our contact guy needs to have a name for an organization, that's what I'll tell him.
Dotti - good idea on the money for shirts, unless anyone has some strong objections. The idea of starting a fund made me nervous ... and if there was a lot of support for it, I was going to see if someone else would run with it.
Be back later ... hopefully with more info.
Love,
Bren
PS - Fire ... good to see you. Those will make great slogans for our signs!!! Thanks for thinking of all those!!!
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Dotti's idea was more in line with what I was thinking. I am still leaning toward a very minimal mark-up to keep the cost of the shirts down, so going through all the trouble of a formal fund seems like a lot of work for what is likely to be a small amount of money. I'm thinking of less than a dollar markup per shirt. That would still make the cost around $20; I forgot to check on their shipping charges.
The ribbon on the front and text on the back sounds like a good idea to me; it does raise the base price of the shirt a dollar or two though. I was thinking of having them do shirts, caps, pins, and car magnets. The only pink they offer at printfection and cafepress is a baby pink. Black would be good, but their process means the ribbon would be surrounded by a white rectangle. I'm not sure I like that, although the extra space would mean the march name/details could be put in the rectangle. Both places have multiple options to put the logo on: sweatshirts, aprons, bumper stickers, keychains, etc. Adding an item isn't hard to do. The graphic file for the ribbon I made is large enough to work well on just about anything printfection/cafepress offers.
Just let me know what you decide and I'll get right on it.
(((HUGS)))
Diane
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UPDATE!!, UPDATE!!
First ... Diane great ideas!! Bluecotton does camo t's too. Maybe we can use two different sites for the t's. Diane you are doing a fantastic job on this. You totally rock!!! If we stick to one site making the t's, maybe we can offer two versions, one in black and one in pink!! I trust your artistic style 100%.
Just talked to Rick Merryman, Chief, Division of Park Programs. The Mall is booked solid with groups larger than ours (duhh). He said he's trying to find a place for us for 6/22. The places he rattled off to me were not high profile places. What's the point if we're going to be tucked away where no one can see us!!?? So, I said, can you put us down by the Vietnam Memorial? He's going to check into and call me back next Tuesday or maybe later this afteroon!!
Has anyone heard from Melissa or Tami about getting our own forum up and running yet? I'll send another email.
We might need to start checking the availability of hotels. Oh lordy ... I was so sure they would turn us down for this year ... now we're going to be in high gear!!!
Valerie, Tender, Diane, Bimmer, and all you great gals, we are going to need lists of everything that needs to be done, and someone to jump in and take control of each item on the list. Help!! (Except, Diane, she's got the t's well under control.
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love you guys,
Bren
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This is a map of the Mall. The White House is just above the Elipse circle.
The section of the Mall to the right of the Washington Monument is in front of the museums. The white lines are streets. I've never been there so I don't know how big it is or how it actually looks.
Another idea is to wait a year and get first pick at the time and location we think would be best. What are your thoughts on this?? What should I tell the Park man when he calls back??
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Bren,
I think waiting till next year, though hard, would be our best bet. It would give us TONS of time to plan and like you said first crack at a date & a spot. PLUS, the new administration will be in place. Let's face it - Bush is pretty much a lame duck at this point.
I'm for waiting.
Valerie
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Holy COW!!! How VERY EXCITING!! This year or next, it's going to be awesome. My vote is for whatever works best for everyone. Valerie certainly makes a good point about the new administration.
I'm <blushing> here, Bren! What I do is just plain FUN for me!
(((HUGS)))
Diane -
Okay Guys ... you're not going to believe this!!!
I checked my on-line bank account and the Park service has already cashed my check for the permit!
I was talking to Tender about dates and locations at the Mall and her thinking was similar to yours (and mine). If we want this to be big and get national coverage, not to mention the best location possible, we should wait until 2009. Another thing Tender brought up, which the above map doesn't show, is the route of the Metro. I can post a map which shows the Metro routes. There is a route which would drop us off at a very good location so we wouldn't have to walk to so far.
Also, we probably better set up committees with heads of each committe.
1. T's, caps, buttons - Diane (you rock this girlfriend)
2. Transportation (Metro, parking, etc.)
3. Lodging (hotels, private homes)
4. Registration List (we need some kind of idea of how many may attend - per the Park Service... over 750 and we have to hire Marshals)
5. Water, snacks, food
6. Banners, Signs, Name tags
7. PR (tv, internet, newspapers, bc organizations, etc)
8. Park Service liaison - Bren
Can you guys think of any more committees? Have I missed anything?
Please let me know what you want to do about 2008 or 2009 before the guy calls me back. My personal thought is 2009 because we have so much to do.
Thanks for keeping this going ...it means so much to so many!!
love,
Bren
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Okay Guys ... you're not going to believe this!!!
I checked my on-line bank account and the Park service has already cashed my check for the permit!
I was talking to Tender about dates and locations at the Mall and her thinking was similar to yours (and mine). If we want this to be big and get national coverage, not to mention the best location possible, we should wait until 2009. Another thing Tender brought up, which the above map doesn't show, is the route of the Metro. I can post a map which shows the Metro routes. There is a route which would drop us off at a very good location so we wouldn't have to walk to so far.
Also, we probably better set up committees with heads of each committe.
1. T's, caps, buttons - Diane (you rock this girlfriend)
2. Transportation (Metro, parking, etc.)
3. Lodging (hotels, private homes)
4.
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Bren - I am definitely willing to wait. I think springtime 2009 is good. I also think it should be on a weekday - Congress will be in session then.
As far a transporation & lodging, I think that if one lady from each state takes the lead they can arrange that themselves. Maybe we could start a list of volunteers. I think buses & trains are used allot for these March's, right?
As soon as we get a date I will get in touch with as many organizations as i can to promote this.
WE NEED OUR OWN FORUM!!!!
keep in tuch,
Valerie
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This map is of the Metro line. It looks like the best stop is at the Smithsonian. The little red square dot to the left is the Washington Memorial. Way far away at the far left end of the reflecting pool is the Vietnam Memorial. That might be quite a long walk for some of the gals from the Metro at the Smithsonian.
Hope this helps.
B.
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I think that we will lose all of our momentum if we wait until next year. In addition to that another 40,910 of you will be deceased.
I say we move now, 6/22/08 or ASAP.
If we snooze, we lose!
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Okay Valerie ... how about a day in the middle of the week in May 2009!!!
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Late Spring, early Summer 2009 (June 21 is the change, right?) is my vote.
Then we get to put in the Park Permit right, hopefully for a great place on the Mall, and some TV coverage.
Also, the Breast Cancer Foundations are getting pledges from our presidential candidates, and it would be great to have a venue to remind them of their candidate pledge, when one year into there presidency.
The economy is fluttering badly, which will draw attention away from cancer support and funding. By 2009, hopefully a recovery will be secured.
I know this will disappoint many. It will provide more time to try to carry this off with presence.
Thanks for listening,
Tender -
A large number of us will probably not even be around or able to participate by May 2009.
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