New here....need info on Xeloda and Zometa
In July 2006 I was diagnosed with IDC (triple neg, brca neg, stage 2b/3a, grade 3, node positive). Had chemo, surgery (lumpectomy/axilla dissection) and radiation.
On July 24, 2007 I was declared NED.
On Aug 15 (my 41st b-day) I had a local recurrence.
On Aug 24, I was told the cancer has spread to my bones and liver.
I really can't understand how all this could happen in a month...total elation, to total devastation.
I just started Xeloda Monday and will soon begin Zometa. Does anyone have any experiences with these meds that they could share?
Thanks,
Gina
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Gina,
My heart goes out to you. I was dx in 6/06. Could you please share what led you find out you had mets? I'm sorry that I do not know anything to share with you on your currrent treatment.
Best wishes to you now and always.
Laurie -
Hi Gina
I received 8 tri weekly rounds of Taxol , carboplatin and avastin for recurrence of IDC ,triple negative. My first course of chemo in 2004 included 6 tretments of CAF and radiation after a lumpectomy. It's quite a shock to learn about recurrence, esp. after you were told it was NED. I believe the carboplatin is esp. effective for triple negatives. My mets spread to the lungs and chest wall and after the 8th treatment the CT's show drastic improvement.
If you would like more information I'd be happy to help.
There are drugs that can help -believe it!
Rena -
Hello Gina,
Your time lines run very parallel to mine. I too was diagnosed with triple neg bc; under went surgery, chemo, and radiation in 2005. Three months later (Oct/Nov 2005),my onc told me I was cancer free or NED. Three months afterward, I discovered a local lump under my arm (same side of cancer), and was told it had metastasized to the chest/lungs and later to my bone.
Conclusion: The first line of chemo was ineffective, and the disease was not detectable with a physical; my disease was never detectable by blood test.
My onc treated me with Avastin and Taxotere. Within one to two months this drug combination proved to be ineffective. I was then placed on Xeloda and Zometa. Zometa for the bones and Xeloda for the cancer.
Within 2 1/2 cycles of Xeloda my four tumors had shrink-ed in half. I did experience the common foot and hand discoloration caused by Xeloda. I even experienced foot pain when I walked, but I found the longer I walked the pain would subside. Unfortunately, my third cycle caused me to have the 'lip syndrome'. I was on the medication for a total of 4 1/2 days in cycle three when my lip began to swell. My onc told me to stop the medication, and the swelling was gone in a day.
My chemo experience has been pretty smooth relative to others cancer patients. Zometa was the first therapy to cause me misery. The first day of dosage was smooth, but the following day was miserable. I experienced bone and joint pain that seem to migrate from one area to another. Sleeping was difficult for me, because I continue to wake-up in pain.
I am no longer on Xeloda, despite the amazing results. My onc and I have decided to start the Carboplatin. I am still taking the Zometa, but this time with pain pills.
Best of luck. Let me know how it goes.
Melissa
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Rena,
Please share with me any information you have on effective drugs for mets.
Melissa
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I know locally here in (Fla) and in MD Anderson Houston they are using Abraxance (spell?) Carboplatinum wuth Avastan with good results.
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AFter my BC recurred (bone and chest wall mets), my first line of treatment was xeloda and zometa. I was very lucky and had no reaction to the zometa at all, but the xeloda caused mild nausea most of the time. AFter three months it was determined that it wasn't working, so I switched to avastin and abraxane with zometa. Unfortunately I had some dental problems that they couldn't rule out was due to zometa, so that was discontinued. Be aware that zometa carries a small risk of BONJ (bisphosphonate-related osteo-necrosis of the jaw). If you need any dental work, make sure you have it done before you begin treatment with zometa.
Many ladies have had good results with xeloda and zometa. Good luck to you. It's probably the least toxic of the chemo-cocktail drugs other than hormone blockers like femara and arimidex or tamoxifen.
Jeanne -
I've been dealing with mets for almost 3 years now and have been on chemo pretty much non-stop since then, I've been on just about everything available except zometa. So heres my experience hope it helps: Xeloda: pbly the most effective so far I was on it a total of 10 months tumors were gone after first 2 months but then I got serious hand and foot syndrome and dose was lowered until we got it under control. I also had thrush and had to take meds for that. On my off week I had terrible stomach cramps followed by diarrhea but the pain meds helped a ton. Had surgery after the xeloda stopped working to reduce tumor load. then was started on gemzar which didnt seem to work (found out that quack surgeon missed almost half tumors) then I went on Navelbine (did all single agent chemos, because I didnt want to burn up all my chemos at once and lessen side effects) Navelbine work very well and kept my tumors shrunk and killed some of them, side effects were pretty mild, some nausea, hair thinning but thats about it. It worked for approx 6 months. then I did radiation to neck and chest area because I had a tumor next to the pericardium. and I wanted a break from weekly chemos. 33 rads treatments. then after 6 weeks I started on doxil... OUCH and YUK. effects side werent bad at first, normal tired, nausea and constipation, but then I started getting hand foot syndrome again and this time it hit hard and fast, so bad that I could not walk for 3 weeks. there was no reducing dose. taken off immediately but it was working. At that point there really wasnt much left to take, they wanted to start me on taxotere and avastin, but aside from the hand and foot deal I still dont want to lose my hair until I have no other choice. I went to stanford U and they recommended Gemzar and avastin and advised to stay away from any taxol based chemo because I will get more damage (my feet and hand will never be the same and I am in constant pain even with pain meds) so I am on gemzar and avastin and have been since June. so far everything is stable I have another scan Wednesday. side effects: well the first three days I have pretty bad nausea followed by terrible painful constipation, but for the first time in 3 years my WBC and RBC are actually holding up pretty good, yes I am getting neulasta but my counts usually dont come up even with the shots. When I was first dx in sept 03 stage 2b triple neg grade3 very aggressive I did dose dense ac/t (does dense 2 weeks). Good luck. I hoped I helped.
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I do not think this is a recurrence!
Did you do CT scans or Bone scans or a PET scan between July 06 and July 07?or only after you saw the local recurrence?
I think your mets were there from last year! But your doctors did not investigate more to find them?
What tests did your doctors do for you during BC diagnoses and surgery and chemo. till you saw the local recurrence?
I have mets to liver,I just finished first cycle of Xeloda+gemzar+Avastin.
Ask your onco for more than Xeloda alone.
Toto
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Wow the pain, I'm going to have a real talk with my onco without you women and your stories I'm lost and I don't like being lost. So now I'm making a list and she is going to follow it. Thank you everyone. P.S. What is the lip syndrome, I already have unbelievable pain in my left leg it's been hurting for days and won't stop and I take morphine it doesn't touch it at all. But now I'm not waiting I want another bone scan and whatever scans I can get I'm going for everything happens so fast when your trple neg. This is an eye opener. Good luck everyone and keep the strength, faith, peanuts whatever helps you.
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Good Evening All,
Well, I'm new to this site, but unfortunately, not new to cancer. I survived Hodgkin's disease nearly 20 years ago. Went through horrific chemo and radiation. Declared cancer free. Fastforward 14 years and a lump is discovered in my left breast. Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, high grade, triple negative. I opted for mastectomy, but did not treat with additional chemo. It was a gamble, but no other cancer was detected in nodes, removed breast tissue, etc.
Things were going along well for 6 years, and then I started to develop some bone pain in my chest after doing some intensive gardening. When it didn't go away, I became very concerned and sought medical treatment. Long story short, the cancer is back and has recurred in my sternum. Brain MRIs', Chest/Abdomen/Pelvic CTs and Whole Body Pet Scans have confirmed the recurrence appears to be localized only to the sternum. (thank goodness). The pain over this past summer was the WORST I ever felt in my life. Radiation is not an option for my treatment as I had signficant radiation to my chest mantle as a teen (probably causing this secondary malignancy later in life).
I've now opted to treat with Xeloda, Avastin and Zometa. I've completed one cycle of Xeloda so far and just received my Avastin and Zometa yesterday. Today, I feel kind of fatigued, achey, but aside from that, no major side effects. During the first 14 days of the Xeloda I had pretty constant burning at the local cancer site on my sternum, but during my one week break, it went away, there was noticeable diminished swelling on my chest. And, I must admit, I felt pretty darn good....better than I had in weeks!
This whole recurrence has been very hard to deal with. Having beat cancer twice before, I foolishly thought I'd live forever. This year my Dad died, my little dog was diagnosed with cancer, and I too, with a recurrence of breast cancer. Now, I know the clock is ticking and mortality is a reality that I never gave a thought to. At this point, all I can say is I am only 37 years old, and have a hell of a lot more I want to see and do in this world. I will not let this beat me down. Please don't let it get you down either. After reading your posts, I consider myself fairly lucky so far with no side effects. I'm forcing myself to lightly exercise, drink lots of waters, green tea, essiac tea and eat properly. Plus, a lot of prayers don't hurt either! :-)
To all of you brave women, may God Bless you. Know that you are not alone in this fight. Afford yourself a little cry from time to time. Love yourself. Don't lose hope.....ever.
I would like to correspond to anyone who like a buddy to chat with. Feel free to email me at kc1970@gmail.com
Take care,
Kim
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Wow, I find it useful to read everyone's tx history like that.
So, I'm offering my history and experience:
Dec '96: Right breast lumpectomy. Got AC followed by Taxol. AC had the worst side effects for me. Violently throwing up exactly 1 hour after infusion and continued for 2 days. Zoffran or other anti-nausea didn't work. Taxol was quite a breeze.
Jun '99: Left breast lumptectomy. Did CMF. This was not as bad. Still lost the hair though.
Oct '03: Bilateral mastectomy due to lump in right breast again. Did Taxotere. Swollen up, gained 15 lbs, had breathing difficulties, couldn't walk, had fingernails lifted. Lasix (diuretic) helped some but not much, but I noticed that the pre-med Dexamethosone relieved some swelling, so I begged the onc. to give me some more Dex AFTER the treatment is over. That helped jump-start the weight loss. The water weight was gone in a couple of months.
Jun '06 was diagnosed with mets to lungs.
First line was Avastin+Taxol. After 2 months, scan showed shrinkage. After 4 more months, scan showed progression.
Second line was Avastin+Carboplatin for 2 cycles followed by Carboplatin single agent for subsequent cycles. After 3 cycles, scan showed DRAMATIC shrinkage. After 3 more cycles, scan showed some more shrinkage but nothing spectacular. After yet 3 more cycles, scan showed progression.
Third line was PARP Inhibitor (clinical trial, I'm BRCA1). After 2 months, scan showed progression. We continued anyway since sometimes there's a delayed reaction on this drug. But after another month the scan showed more progression.
My most likely options for next treatment are either Ixabepilone+Xeloda or Abraxane+Avastin (actually I'd like to petition adding Erbitux to this mix if I seriously want to go with this combo). My oncologist appears to like Navelbine, which I didn't even know was a "good" option for triple negatives. But I see that some of you have had Navelbine, so apparently it IS given to triple negatives.
Well, best wishes for everyone...
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Hi Everyone,
Just a quick update. I completed my 6th cycle of Xeloda, Avastin and Zometa. I had a PET and CT/Scan to see if the drugs have been effective.
Well....I have SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT!!!. Over an estimated 60% reduction on the PET (SUV 2.1 ...down from 6.9). Also, the few lymph nodes affected showed about a 35% shrinkage. Plus, no additional masses detected. All other organs normal/unremarkeable.
The Xeloda has affected my hands and feet pretty badly. I had been down in the dumps, too; so this was some very, very good news. My doc gave me (3) weeks off for my hands to heal up and the break did me a world of good.
Now, its back in the saddle for awhile. I'm going to keep on keeping on and will look forward to more improvement at the next scanning by end of summer!
Keep the faith everyone and God Bless!
Kim
Ps....if anyoene has some tips on how to manage this Hand/Foot syndrome, other than emollients, gloves and B6...I'd love to hear from you.
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Xeloda and Zometa can both be Googled for side effects--neither has caused me much trouble. You need to be put on PARP as soon as possible from what I understand about BRCA. Go to a major cancer center.
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I suspect that the largest university near you has a major cancer center. Penn is a major cancer center here in Philadelphia.
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