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Tina, I don't use tinted moisturizer either. I use a moisturizer first and then apply my foundation.
How does everyone apply their foundation? I use a sponge or a brush.
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This thread is great. Speaking of hair --I have a hair on my head product question - can someone recommend a product that will separate these curls and tame the frizz? I'm one year out of chemo and the curls are slowly going, but still a bit frizzy.
I use a leave in conditioner and blow my hair dry on low, but I still have a bit of frizz in the front. Also, a nice hair spray so when I pin layered curly unruly hair up, it will stay.
Marin,
I do the same as Tina, apply my moisturizer (Oil of Olay Regenerist), let it set and then lightly put on my foundation (Clinique Super Balance, I believe). Although, I notice that while the foundation evens my skin out and provides a more "finished" look, it does make the wrinkles near my eyes more noticeable. The last few days I've just been using only my powder (grabbing makeup bag to see its name)...Dual Finish by Lancome, can use without foundation.
Raye
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Raye, try using one of the new collagen eye creams to "fill in" the lines. I also use a concealer. Go light with the powder since powder falls in the creases and causes us to look older. The make up lady had me buy a pink tinted eye cream/shadow and I put it right in the corner of my eyes, near my nose and on the lids closest to my nose. So, kind of take the shadow with your finger (she said use my finger) and starting in that corner then swoop up toward the brow.
BethNY recommends an eye brightener and that's what I think this is.
With this technique and my concealer and my other new MAC products, my eye makeup is staying on, and I don't look so tired anymore.
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LOL @ "tissue drag" hee hee
That's why it's essential to have a soft wet wipe. I prefer cottenelle wipes and the CVS store brand wipes that are sold next to the playtex wipes.
Wipes aren't just for babie's tushies anymore.
One of my friends calls herself the 70's bush girl. It's something, that even if for a fleeting moment I thought I wanted to have, I could never ever grow it down there. I'm hair challenged.
I'm going to get the poetic wax today-- thanks for the link. The funniest part is that I'll probably be posting here with all the hilarious details. Pray that I don't hurt myself.
Raye how short are your curls? I have banana curls that my friends love to pull on and watch them spring back (my avatar actually is my hair blown out straight, but as you can see within hours it starts to curl again).
With short curly hair you should not be shampooing everyday b/c it's too drying. I love herbal essence totally twisted curls and waves shampoo and conditioner. I also follow it up with an anti frizz condtioner. OR, when I get out of the shower I use the sun silk leave in anti frizz stuff (not the clear silicone gel anti frizz, its actually a white cream leave in, and you only use a nickel size amount for short hair).
DO NOT PUT A TOWEL ON YOUR HEAD when you get out of the shower. Comb through your hair as soon as you get out of the shower. Flip over, shake it out, then immediately apply your product to lock in the moisture. I like gel over mousse, but if your hair is super short gel may be too over powering.
For mousse I like the big sexy hair line, and its in a blue can called big sexy curls- you can get it at CVS.
You should let it air dry for 20 min (longer as it gets longer) then use a dryer with a diffuser, and try not to TOUCH your hair except to seperate the curls. The more you touch it, the frizzier it will get.
Then put in some hairspray and let it air dry the rest of the way.
My routine is letting it airdry for 30-40 min, then flipping over, drying the underneath, then using shaper hairspray, then putting on my makeup,then I go back and take the diffuser off, flip over, finish drying it with big sexy hair root pump, and then I'm done.
I must say I spent my whole life mastering tha art of doing curly hair, and I LOVE my hair. Losing my hair during cancer, by far was one of the most devastating times in my life. And that first year and half of growing it is so slow it's PAINFUL!
But, now- my hair is past my shoulders, and the longer it gets, the further away I feel from cancer.
I love my hair routine. Does it take a long time? YES... but for me it's worth it. I will never, ever forget the first time I put my hair in a pony tail holder after cancer. I will never forget buying my first tube of mascara either.
The plus, is that I never would've worn my hair short ever in life, so it was cool to see what it looked like at all the different lengths. I figure I've got one year left to go to get my hair where I want it. And it's so healthy, and I love that cancer gave me a second chance to not mess it up again!
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Rocktobermom,
Thanks much for the hints. Nice cans in your avatar BTW
- love it.Where do you find the collagen eye cream? Does MAC make one? It sounds as though that is where you got yours. You're right about the powder making the lines more visible under my eyes (as I look in mirror).
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Beth,
Your hair is beautiful in the avatar - I can see the curls at the ends.
My hair is eh, approximately 5" in length (I am desperately searching the office for someone with a camera, so I can change my avatar to show the current condition of my hair).
Thanks for the advice. I've been making some mistakes I do believe. I use a towel after the shower, keep it on while I brush my teeth and then remove. I knew this was a big no no when I had long hair and would not use a towel, but with short hair I didn't think it mattered. Also, I blow it dry right away using my fingers as combs, hence, bringing on the frizz. I use Garnier's leave in conditioner.
What shaper hairspray to you use? The Big Sexy Hair one? I like that line of product; when I had long hair, I used the Sexy Straight hair products to tame my waves and loved them.
Good luck with your waxing - be careful down there.
Raye
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For curly hair or ANY dry and/or frizzy hair, try the Deva line of products. I love the DevaCurl and DevaCare lines (the latter being for chemically treated hair). The AnGell is a terrific "defining gel" that completely takes the frizz out of my hair. Before chemo, it was wavy and tended towards frizzy in the front, particularly in humid conditions. Now, it works great with my chemo curls. Remember not to brush or disturb your curls once dry. If I cannot air dry, I use the diffuser on my Tourmaline T3 dryer.
http://store.devachansalon.com/Categories.bok?category=DevaCurl
Re: fine lines around the eyes and make-up. I use the Smashbox Photofinish whenever I wear foundation and it works just great. Sephora carries most of these products.
BTW, I buy from Sephora online as I do not like their stores. The two I've been in tend to turn me off with all the opened samples of make-up. Really worries me that people are spreading their germs. Yuck. I would not put a finger into one of those pots if you paid me.
Tina
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Good luck Beth!
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Raye I see your new pic. You hair length is at that in between phase, that you just have to motor through!
Some days when mine was that length I took a flat iron to it, and spiking glue and wore it in different directions, but once it started to grow the curls weighed down the spikes. I think you should stick with mouse, at your length gel will weigh down the curls.
Stop with the towel, pronto! I'm super retarded when it comes to posting pics here, cause I have one with my hair when it was at your length--just hang in there. You'll go through one more weird phase when it finally gets a little below your ears. Then you'll have a cute shirley temple ringlette paige boy cut that will be adorable.
I think your hair looks cute in your pic-- just don't run your fingers through it during the day or over pulling, scrunching when you style it, or it will frizz. Raye you will totally get there!! We all know that it doesn't grow fast enough-- but your hair is still super cute.
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Tina...You're so funny! So is Emelee, offering to give Beth a demo
! We do get into it here, don't we? Having acknowleged that anything goes, then, I'll address Tina's "concerns"...I never had "tissue drag" during chemo (or now), but the stream can sometimes go in wonky directions, since it has no hair to "guide it." You get accustomed to it and develop a few techniques (position changes) to accomodate it. As for the bare look, it really is a matter of preference for both women and men and for both oneself as well as one's partner (that's right, for those of you not in the know about this isuue, men ALSO get "Brazilians" or, at least, a full shaving of their member...quite nice, I'll say!). Some people get very creeped out and feel like prepubescent girls and some men also think it's yucky for that reason. Typically, that would be the older guys, who like a women "trimmed" or a landing strip. But the young guys are all about a very clean "work area." Enough said.Thanks for the tinted moisturizer tips. I guess I'd like to find something that moisturizes, sets & keeps my foundation, and makes me glow! It might be an unrealistic desire to find all of that in one product. I'm so lazy.....
~Marin
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Thanks Beth! - sounds like I've got a ways to go - the sides are pulled back in the photo, but it will be awhile before the top is below my ears. Also, I've been using gel, not mousse - I'll give that a try.
Marin,
"Clean work area" ha! Okay, back to makeup tips: while looking at Sephora online, I found a tinted moisturizer with SPF 15 protection. I am not sure if it set and keeps the foundation, however. It is called Stila Sheer Color Tinted Moisturizer. 30 bucks.
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I wonder if the something else you wanted to ask (at least I did) I thought the hair there helped direct the stream to the correct area and not "all over". ???
Ah, I just love woman talk----very little is sacred!
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This thread is half makeup half mojo. Mena would be proud.
I agree with Marin, it's usually one or the other. I guess b/c I've always gone with the bald eagle route I've expected the guys I date to do the same (or as close to it as possible).
I chickened out on buying the poetic wax. I'm such a wuss. The demonstration suggestion is so something I would do for a friend. I'm so close to asking the BF for help.
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I'm confused about mojo. I thought it was magic spell or charm or something like that, power of sorts, but you girls (and others) seem to be using it as "secsual" groove. Could you bring auntie up to date?
That being said, I think my mojo has gotten me in far enough trouble over my lifetime to be too concerned with activating it now.

Dry hand hint: Bag Balm. Only at night and try wearing cotton gloves for at least a while. The skin around my nails was getting very dry and catching on my undies so I used BB for a couple of nights running and it did the trick to get rid of those troublesome areas.
Tina
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Tina...I was just angsting about my dry hands this morning since they've just started getting a little raggedy as our weather finally turns cold (near sixty expected on Tuesday though...yay!). So thanks for the BB tip (I hate that name and, so, have avoided buying it in case I'd have to ask for it....better than that Udder Whatever though!). I was thinking that, to put on hose, I was going to have to buy some latex gloves. I spend enough on pantyhose that I can't afford to snag and run every pair I put on!
And, as for "mojo," it does, technically, refer to spirit or magical charm, but it does seem to have come into some popular usae to mean sexual energy/libido or, as Carrie Bradford puts it, "Za Za Zoom"! Also, I think that Geralyn Lucas referred to sexual energy as "mojo" in Why I Wore Lipstick.... I also loved her reference to the courage & self-esteem women who have had breast surgery develop as "inner cleavage"

And one final comment on Dotti's asking about the "stream" aand how it gets where it needs to go....that's true, the hair serves several functions and navigation seems to be one of them. So having no hair causes the stream to, well, take some false turns

Raye....I second Beth's comments on your hair....gorgeous! Of course, I thought you looked good bald!

~Marin
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ROFL @ Marin...my GOD you crack me up!!!
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OK, I just found this thread today, and only read the first page so far, but just had to say...
Marin - I busted out lauging when I read about your straight pin to unclump your mascara! I used to do that when I was a teenager, and I got in HUGE trouble for it when my mom saw me. I'm sure you can picture it, she walks in the room, sees me, and (hello?) yells at me, "what are you doing!?" Having not seen her, I jump a mile, and you guessed it, poked a hole in my eyebrow. Thank goodness it didn't go straight in my eye! Anyway, reading that brought back that memory as if it just happened yesterday.
I can't remember who said it already, but the Anastasia brow kit is the BEST! I already had a lot of eyebrows back when I found it, so I didn't buy the whole kit (it's expensive, and I did'nt need the stencils) but you can buy just the powder. I love it!
I'm going to do some reading on this thread. I bought that Arbonne stuff (talk about expensive) but didn't really see what all the fuss was about. I've had great luck with good old Oil of Olay. I have realized that it would behoove me to put a little makeup on my face more often, so I'm just about to investigate some foundation and blush, I'm hoping to find some suggestions from you all!
Thanks!
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Marin, I was gonna comment on the hair and stream thingy but thought, no maybe that is too much information. LOL I have a friend who still does the pin to separate the eyelashes. I can't watch. HAHA
Colleen, I tried the Arbonne stuff too and it made my skin greasy. Not gonna pay big bucks for greasy skin. I use Dove Self Cleaning scrub and an Avon moisturizer, I got both at the Look Good Feel Better program and liked them.
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Don't they have eyelash combs to seperate lashes? A pin??? You guys are nuts...I guess that's why I love you.
I never realized that hair directed the stream. Probably cause I never had enough.
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We are some seriously insane chicks, aren't we? So be it.
I tried the gooshing together of moisturizer and foundation today and it worked great! Tomorrow, I'm gonna really go wild and mush in some liquid blush. I guess this kind of combo makeup isn't marketed because the companies make more money selling the items individually. If they did have a moisturizing tinted foundation, I'd buy stock in the company because I'll bet it would sell like crazy!
So I have another question....what do you all do to refresh and replenish your mascara when you can't remove it and re-apply? I have difficulty getting a natural look if I need to glop more on at the end of the business day before an event or a date. By then, alot of it has flaked off, but it still coats the lashes enough to make new mascara application not very smooth. Anyone have tips or suggestions?
~Marin
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Marin, regarding the moisturizer and foundation ... in the winter I tend to not be any of the 'right' colors ... so in my palm I mix foundations and then apply. I have from time to time thinned it out with moisturizer. Try that and tell me how it works. I also have a liquid bronzer I have mixed in during the pre summer months.
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LOL re the pin thing on the eyelashes ... been there and now prefer to try to avoid poking my eye!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, I have an abbadoodles comment ...
today, one of the girls I work with told me that I looked "really pretty" today. She asked what I was doing different. Was it my hair? (I have been wearing it a bit flatter and its longer) Was it my makeup? I told her I've been using concealer and brightening my eyes and using the eyeliner only halfway instead of to the inner corner ...
Glad she noticed and she's a Kelly, too!
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Marin- I don't think there's any grest way of refreshing mascara once it's been on all day.
I agree with you- if I'm going out after already having day makeup on, I refresh my eye with new eyeliner, and added shadow, but there's no way to reapply mascara and not have it clumpy looking on the ends. If someone figures it out, it will be nothing short of a miracle.
The only thing I could think of, it if you got a different brand of mascara, like that new one from loreal where the tube looks like a magnifying scope. The brush is shaped like nothing you've ever seen, and it's so tiny, that you may pick up new lashes, that missed color in the morning.
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Rocktober, I forgot to answer your question about applying make-up with brushes or sponge. I did buy an (expensive) Chanel foundation brush and think I was using it correctly, AND I've tried sponges, but I've found that I do the best job with my fingers.
Hint: I have within the past two days found out that wiping the excess tint off the end of the (liquid) eyebrow make-up really helps application without getting gobs on the brow hairs. I only need the color on a few, hateful greys that are growing out of a mole under my brow hairs. You cannot see the mole (colorless) but it apparently is producing grey hairs. Yuck. It has been hard to color those suckers without getting color all over the rest of the brows and then I have to match the other whole brow. Now that I am wiping that tip, I can carefully apply to those single three of four whities. This hurts me, though, to wipe any product off as it seems so wasteful.
Just call me cheap. About the strangest things.Guys, they do sell eyebrow/eyelash comb/brush combos. Really pretty cheap. I use mine all the time.
I think my lashes are shedding for the third time. Not all at once or half and half as before, though.
If I had to refresh my mascara I would try using one of those make-up remover pads folded in half and just running over the lashes a bit to get off the worst of it, then re-applying mascara after the lashes dry.
Tina
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I don't like to use my fingers anymore, I used to do it until I discovered sponges. Now, I am using a brush I got a few months ago. One thing I like about the brush is that none of the foundation "soaks" into it. What goes on the brush, ends up on the face.
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I refresh my mascara by using my eyelash curler again over the old mascara - it makes them extra long
I also mix tinted moisturizer with illuminator (I know..like a chemist or something) then I'm covered and glowing...then I use powder bronzer..
I understand the fear of poetic wax - It took me a long time to do it

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I love sponges for buffing foundation AFTER it has dried. My entire body, it seems, is covered with a very fine down, although it is not apparent unless you really look close-up in the right light. The dry sponge really gets the foundation off the tiny hairs and polishes the whole look.
I have to ask something about lip brushes. I've read all sorts of ways to apply lipstick with a brush. Also, how to use lipliner. Only thing is, just using the lipstick straight from the tube gives me the same results. What's the deal with the brushes?
Tina
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Beth - Took your hair tips to heart - washed my hair, touched it lightly with the towel (did not put towel on my head as you suggested), used a bit of leave in conditioner, let air dry and then blew dry on low. The result was much less frizz and more defined curls. yay! thank you.
Marin - You are so funny!!! The stream, yes, I noticed the same, lack of directional flow, if you will. Sort of like after a good workout and things are sweaty down below and not aimed in the right direction resulting in a misguided stream.
Brushes and sponges - I used to use a sponge, but found that it didn't apply the makeup as evenly as I could do using my hands. Now, this brush does sound interesting. Might have to try it out. I have used brushes for my lipstick as well, and again, prefer just using it straight from the tube.
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When you get to my age, you'll start back with lipliner and brushes. I also use MAC pro lip somethning or other, has a color end and a gloss end. Love that stuff.
Found a new L'oreal that's a good stay on too, i use the brush with it. It gets the lipstick in the right places and very smoothly. the lipliner is a very necessary item to keep from getting runs in my creases and keeps the lipstick from roaming on my face. LOL
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