Facts about Estrogens

I bookmarked this article and I will take a look at it later.  I'm not ready to start HRT but the article did bring up some good ideas.  I may be grasping at straws.  I would sure like to get rid of AIs.

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"Funny how the article doesn't mention anything about the effacy of aromatase inhibitors.  I would be leary of some of the information from this article, especially on using hormone replacement therapy after a diagnosis of breast cancer.  "

Ohhh Liz, how subtlely said.

I HAAAAATE "Life Extension Foundation"!! I cancelled my subscription, got my $ back AND gave them a large piece of my mind.They are drug-sellers!

They publish sleazy, misinforming articles and then procede to sell you appropriate drugs, right after the article.

I quit reading this article when I saw them pushing soy isoflavones for bc.Genestein?They're probably selling it too!

This is DANGEROUS!!!

It is true that Asian women raised on soy have less bc than western women raised on milk.

But THE FACT IS that for we ES+ bc women, soy is dangerous to us, if we've not been raised on it!!!

And the isoflavones(concentrated nurtition of soy)are VERY dangerous.Probably NO ONE should use them.

(And you dont have to buy bottles of the capsules.Isoflavones are added to most soy foods like TVP, all the kinds of gardenburgers, etc, etc.)

This, CONTRARY to what LEF has to say, is the word of my onc, a "Philly's Best", Johns Hopkins oncologist.

He said a LITTLE plain soy on occasion is OK, but NO isoflavones!

So this is what LEF published after I quit?I would have gone apesh!t! I still may send it to the NYTimes!

PUH-LEEEEZE,Lisametoo, these ARE NOT facts about Estrogens!They are LIES about estrogensThy are MISINFORMATION.And this should be protested and forced to be withdrawn!It is dangerous!!Truely!

If you want to learn about estrogen, ask your onc any Qs you have, read at the Breast Cancer Watch at Evidencewatch.com, read Andrew Weil, Dr Christine Northcut, any famous MD.Do NOT take your "facts" from LEF!!

Google "Estrogen in breast cancer"!

Mostly, ask your onc where to read.

NOT LEF-- they are drug-pushers and irresponsible ones at that!

And yes this is the board to discuss alternative therapies.But not "info" from people selling "therapies".

I'm not a rabid straight liner!My list of natural suppliments is very long.But I have carefully researched each one (and NOT research from the seller!)

And when it comes to estrogen and bc--do you understand that this is life or death??

Please be VERY careful of the "facts" you learn.

I KNOW how LEF are.I have rejected them!

"NOT LEF-- they are drug-pushers and irresponsible ones at that!"

Unfortuntely, I have that same feeling towards Astra-Zenica and their "pushing" of Aridamax (sp?)  Who paid for and manipulated the studies saying it was 17% better than tamoxifin? 

Don't mind me--I am doing my final chemo January 9 and have to make a decision about what to do next re hormonal therapy, and I am confused as can be, even after reading all that has been researched and reported on this board.

I too much say I am shocked that the LEF would be promoting HRT to breast cancer survivors--

I think this is a great reminder to run everything by our medical team before jumping into something like that. . .

Whether or not the LEF has proof in the form of scientific studies, they DO operate in a way that I find distasteful.

In addition to being able to purchase items from them outright, they also have a pyramid type scheme going on. They have been around for quite some time and operate under several names. The own many domain names that will redirect to their site.

When I investigated the spam attacks we get here on the boards from "sophia" and "her" various other incarnations, I discovered the man behind the spam is affiliated with LEF and his spam is an effort to earn $ through click-through campaigns. That kind of thing is enough to keep me away from LEF FOREVER.

"Other" badboob, I did quite a bit of research after my dx when I was prescribed Arimidex. I agree that they spend entirely too much money on ads and freebies, but I do remember reading a number of scientific studies (don't have the links on this computer but could find them again if you would like) that did show Aromatase inhibitors to be at least as effective as Tamoxifen if not moreso. I so suspect that part of the reason is that AI's are only for post-menopausal (either natural, surgical, or chemical) women so even more estrogen is being kept from cancer cells than with Tamoxifen.  Both drugs have their own very negative side effects as possibilities as well. It's a tough choice, I'm sure!

I am not opposed to supplementation/alternative therapies, but I do worry that people could end up doing more harm than good. For me, I would rely on reputable sources for information. MD Anderson has a search feature on their website that lists their opinions and cites studies when available. I believe Sloan Kettering has something similar. PubMed and the NIH websites are also helpful.

I would be VERY careful with alternatives when it comes to hormone suppression. First, there is the problem of whether or not an agent is truly effective. Then, one must be concerned with the quality and formulation of the alternative agent. Standardization of alternative treatments and supplements is a big problem. I don't like the government to have their hands in everything, but I would sure like to see something put into place that could ensure when I buy a bottle of melatonin, for instance, that it 1) CONTAINS melatonin and 2) that each tablet and batch contains the AMOUNT claimed on the label. 

Lisa,



I am wondering, are you saying your mom had no surgery for her stage IIIc ovarian cancer diagnosis, or are you saying you feel your cited sources have greatly helped her after her staging and cancer reduction surgery, which established her at IIIc ovarian cancer?



I think it's important to clarify this, so no one thinks medical therapy alone can a) stage an ovarian cancer and b) treat one, ie, you see the cancer, and then leave it in situ and treat it medically. This could be tragic for a newly diagnosed ovarian cancer patient awaiting surgery.



I'm so thrilled for your Mom that she is doing well 5 years out from ovarian cancer, and one year out from breast cancer. I'm sure your love for her truly helps.



Tender

Dear, Dear Lisa,

With all your knowledge and understanding of alternatives why are you not having your Mom do Dr. Richard Schulze's 30 Day Incurables program??  It could very well be the magic bullet you are looking for.  PLEASE - check this out - do not ignore this man's wisdom, knowledge and experience in natural healing.  PLEASE!!!!!

God bless,

Genesis

Hi Lisa,

We would love to know what you think after really checking into the program.

Our prayers continue.

Genesis