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  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008

    brown books-- you know how bloomingdales has the little brown bags printed on their shopping bags?

    Well, they make these things called the little brown books, and it looks like a hard cover thin book, but you open it and its all eye colors and the other is all lip colors.

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  • Emelee26
    Emelee26 Member Posts: 569
    edited December 2007

    Ooohh..

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    Does anyone know an efficient, "clean" way of printing an entire thread like this, short of copying & pasting each entry individually? I'd like to copy all of these tips and we all know what happens to dormant threads around here!

    I don't recall if I mentioned this, but a poster on one of my iVillage threads uses jojoba oil to remove makeup. I imagine that would be great around the eye area too!

    ~Marin

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  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited December 2007

    Marin, you can highlight everything on a page, even the avatars, then copy and paste to anything, even Notepad.  This way there is only one c/p per page and we're only up to page four.  Not so bad.

    Tip:  Some stores let you return any makeup you don't like.  It's as good as try before you buy.  CVS is one of these stores.  I have done it a couple of times.  Takes the risk out of buying.  You just have to get over being embarrassed about returning stuff.

    Tina

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  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008

    my mom tries and returns stuff at CVS often... and you're right.  I should get over it and not be embarassed.  I wonder if the makeup companies let you do it b/c secretely they know a lot of women won't return makeup simply because we grew up knowing it couldn't be returned.

    That's my big thought for the day. whew. can you tell it's friday? Laughing

    In other news I had my 6 month checkup with the onc today.  All is fabulous in cancer free land.  Next time I see her it'll be tank top weather...

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    I wash my face in the shower and use a scrub to exfoliate, every day. I take off the remnants of eye make-up(black smudge all over!) with MAC's GENTLY OFF (eye/lip make-up remover).

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  • twinkly
    twinkly Member Posts: 182
    edited December 2007

    I thought I'd compile this list to help those who are interested in using safe makeup and body products.

    Please note, I've only added the most hazardous products to this list (as per the http://www.cosmeticdatabase.com/ website) where all products that have been reviewed are listed, scoring from  0 - 10.  Zero score is the best, and ten score is the worst. 

    I have reported only the most hazardous products (scoring 7 or above) as follows:

    Type of Product (number of products reviewed in total): Name of cosmetics company with most hazardous product (scoring 7 and above).  If you like, you can visit the site to view all products reviews, and see which products received the lower safer scores.

    Here's the list:

    Eyeshadow (896 products listed in total):  Avon, NARS, Neutrogena, Zhen

    Bronzers/Highlighters (199 products listed in total): Body Drench, Boots, L'oreal, Revlon, Pop Beauty, LA Express, Estee Lauder, Sephora, Lauren Hutton, Eyeko

    Concealer (483 products listed in total):  Estee Lauder, Revlon, Elizabeth Arden, Cover Girl, NARS, Joey, Porcelana, Mirenesse, Neutrogena, Avon, Lauren Hutton, Lumene

    Foundation (808 products listed in total):  Revlon, Ultima II, Olay, MAC, Prescriptives, L'oreal, Almay, Avon, Elizabeth Arden, Cover Girl, Neutrogena, NARS, Color me beautiful, Max Factor, Boots, Becca, Lumene, Smashbox, Annemarie Borlind

    Mascara (388 products listed in total): Cover Girl, Maybelline, Elizabeth Arden, Eyeko, Max Factor, Prescriptives, Annemarie Borlind, Vincent Longo, Babor, Longcils, Studio Gear

    Lipstick (935 products listed in total): Revlon, Avon, Alison Rafaelle, Dior, Estee Lauder, Color me beautiful, Paula Dorf, Sue Devitt, Ultima II, Jelly Pong, Vincent Longo, studio gear, tarte, Neutrogena, Philosophy, Sugarbaby, Elizabeth Arden

    Lip Balm (408 products listed in total):  Ultima II, Chapstick, Alchemy, Elizabeth Arden, Biotherm, Pop Beauty, Blistex, Too faced, Avon, Loccitane, Banana Boat, Almay, Smashbox, Lumene, Joey, Vaseline, Carmex

    Shampoo (1228 products listed in total): philosophy, L'oreal, Pantene, Redken, Nexxus, Neutrogena, Bumble and Bumble, Matrix, John Frieda, Baker Cummins, Frederic Fekkai, Willow Lake, Donna Karan, Yardley, Finesse, Thermasilk, Avon, Calvin Klein ,Georgio Armani, Back to Basics, Clairol African, Selsun Blue (and a few other less known brands)

    Hairspray (415 products listed in total): Pantene, Revlon, Back to Basics, Nexxus, Sebastian, Nexius, Jonathan, Bed Head, LA Locks, Garnier, John Frieda, Citre Shine, ARTec, Finesse, TRESemme, got2bcurled, aussie sprunch

    Of course there are many more types of products listed....I've just included what I thought to be the most common ones.

    I hope this list helps those people who are currently fighting cancer.

    Research indicates that environmental factors may be responsible for up to 70% of all cancers existing today. 

    What we put onto our skin is absorbed into our bodies (nicotine/birth control patch are perfect examples of how drugs are absorbed through the skin). 

    Interestingly enough, toxins are stored in the fatty tissue of our bodies - therefore our breasts are the perfect dumping ground for the accumulation of toxins and carcinogens - from products we've trustingly used every day of our lives.

    If you are interested in knowing which companies have signed the "Compact for safe cosmetics", please visit the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics, located at http://www.safecosmetics.org/

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  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited December 2007

    I'm feeling in need of a new make-up fix.  Probably a creamy eyeshadow to replace the powdered ones that are supposed to be drying.  No need to dry myself out more. Frown

    Now, if only I could avoid the after-Christmas returns crowd.  Maybe I should wait until after the new year but WHAT DO I DO IN THE MEANTIME?  Online?  Gratification too delayed. 

    Au naturel is highly overrated.

    Tina

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  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008

    I rarely use facial scrubs cause my skin is soooo sensitive, but I found something the other day that I had to share here.SKIN EFFECTS by Dr Jeffrey Dover, and i got the deep cleaning enzyme scrub.  I got it in cvs.  It was under $10.  It's in a light green colored bottle.

    After two uses (three days apart) I feel such a difference in my skin.  My face feels as soft as a baby's bottom. I'm definitely not going to break out from it, it didn't leave me red or blotchy, and my pores are noticabely smaller.  I'm very excited about this scrub.  had to share with my favorite girls.

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  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited December 2007

    Well, thank you, Beth, for that info.  I've seen those products but hadn't tried any yet.  The price is right, too.

    I have to ask some advice.  About blusher.  Every time I read an article by "experts" about applying makeup it seems there is a different way to apply blusher.  Some say on the apple of your cheek.  Others say: nothing lower than your nose.  What if you have big "cheek apples???" and they extend lower than your nose. 

    Other experts say only UNDER the cheekbones.  And on and on, ad infinitum.

    Then, when I look at people on TV who are made up professionally, people who look pretty darn good, their blusher seems to obey no rules that I've read.  SO, How to find the best area for you/me?  Does anyone have any tips?

    Tina

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  • snowyday
    snowyday Member Posts: 1,478
    edited December 2007

    Twinkly, again thank you for the information on makeup decisions, I really hope my pur minerals isn't on it.  But I'm going to check.  Your contributions are really appreciated by me. Pearl

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  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008

    For me, the application of blush and the color depends on whats happening on the rest of my face.

    For my bright day face look- wanting to look young, and fresh faced, I stick with a bare eye, maybe a light sheer shimmer, a white eye pencil in the bottom lid, a black think line on the top, thin mascara- nothing dramatic, a clear lipgloss, and then more of a candy apple blush shade applied directly to the apple of my cheeks.

    For a more dramatic look which involves playing up my eyes at night, then a need a sweeping blush usually in an apricot/pinkish/tan color that I use the sweep technique always starting from the hair line and working in under the apples of the cheek along the cheek bone.

    For somewhere inbetween, you'd put your face on, take your bronzer brush which should be a big brush, and use the sweeping motion working from the hairline under the cheek bone, then you'd take a lighter pink color and VERY LIGHTLY go in a circular motion on the apples of your cheek giving you the flushed look.

    Soooo i know its ridiculously confusing.  But for me, the amount and color of blush I use depends on whats happening on the rest of my face.

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  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited December 2007

    Beth, the LGFB lady that did our session (she is a hairdresser in real life) told us to do the blush from the temples to the middle of the cheek but I'd never heard that before.  Always had been told to start at the middle and swoop up, but the opposite does work better. 

    I'm looking at your avatar and your apples/cheekbones don't look anything like mine.  Oh, this is all so confusing.  I wonder how I've made it through all these years. Tongue out

    Tina

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  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited December 2007

    Tina, you should smile when you put on your blush, it makes your apples more prominent and easier to apply the blush in the right place.

    I think you are talking about two different things- contouring and blush.

    If you have a foundation brush, which is a smaller, tighter brush that can apply wet foundations, you can use that to go just under your cheek bone with a darker shade of your foundation color- not a darker shade of blush. Then apply the blush above on the apples and up to the hairline - or in the opposite direction, whichever works best for you.

    One tip I have is take a liquid shimmer highlighter and apply it first, before foundation, on your upper cheeks and around to your brow. THEN put foundation over that and it gives you a really nice glow that doesn't look sparkly. 

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  • PuppyFive
    PuppyFive Member Posts: 2,808
    edited December 2007

    WOW Great thread!! Thanks!

    Puppy

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    I'm thinking about getting permanent eye-liner by someone who is well-respected in my area. On the outer edges of both upper and lower lids. I think it would be great when vacationing in the caribean and while working out at the health club.

    Have any of you had this done?

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  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited December 2007

    Laura, my stepmother had that done about 20 years ago and it is still there.

    She still adds on extra when doing her makeup, but in the morning she looks like she has nice definition to her eyes. 

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  • carolsd
    carolsd Member Posts: 358
    edited December 2007

    Well Laura, I think it is something to consider. My boyfriend tells me his ex-wife had the permanent eyeliner tattooed on and she really loved the effect. I have not had the courage to go ahead with it, though I probably could at very low or no cost (the woman who tattooed my nipples throws in a free permanent eyeliner to her clients who have suffered breast cancer) but so far I am on the fence about it. I don't wear eyeliner ordinarily, just some shadow, as my eyes are kind of deep set. But I would say, if you're seriously considering it, and you have a good reputable tattoo artist to do it, then go for it! I personally see some plastic surgery in my future, in the form of an eye lift, maybe a brow lift, or mini face lift... why the heck not, if we can afford it? (which I can't, haha). I think the confidence we gain from these procedures can't be all bad.

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  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008

    I would be way too scared to do permanent makeup, but if you do it, more power to you, and pllllleeeeease post pics too.

    So tonight we had a big dinner with my BF's mom, grandmother, and my mom.  They hadn't seen our house since we first moved in, and I've been so worried about the whole thing.

    well-- everything went perfect.  The 12 hours of cleaning yesterday paid off, dinner was amazing, dessert was to die for, and I decided to plya with the eye makeup kit from bloomingdales that his mom bought me, and my makeup was fab and held up all night.  I just looked in the mirror, and I can't believe that it looks like I just put on my makeup.

    The only downside is the fact that soon I have to wash it all off.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    Well, Beth, I didn't think that anyone could make me more excited about makeup than I already am, but your tips and stories about playing with various looks are very motivating! The kit from Bloomie's sounds great!

    I do think that applying blush is a very individual thing and has so much to do with your own natural look and the contouring & coloring of your face. I have found that a long process of trial & error has taught me how to apply color so that it falls where the sun would naturally color my face or where my color rises after vigorous exercise. I usually focus on an almost triangular area on my cheekbones and under the outer half of my eye. I also layer liquid cheek paint both under and over my foundation and then, as a final touch, apply powder blush very lightly, in the same way that Beth describes above, in a circular motion.

    As for permanent makeup, I had my brows tattooed on after chemo because they never really came back fully. Unfortunately, it was done too lightly and it's too late to have it re-done without paying another full fee. It's better than nothing though. I would absolutely do the eyeliner (in plum!) if I could afford it! I've seen my aesthetistician's work and she does an amazing job! I have a great tattoo artist for my "regular" tattoos, but wouldn't use him for permanent makeup. Only someone who specializes in it should be used, IMO.

    ~Marin

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    For blush, I use a big blusher brush and use bronzer every day and use it like a blush from the temples down ... kinda like a big lazy letter C.   Then I take a pink blush and do the apples when I want more effect for night or a dressy day at work.

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  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited December 2007

    I had my lower lids done since I don't put mascara there (not recommended for gals of "a certain age" since it can really get into creases.  I was anxious of getting too much and she did a good job of just barely lining the lower lid.  I do enhance it with brown eye shadow when I'm putting on make up.

    as i previously mentioned i had my brows done and repeated after they began to fade after a few years.  I do enhance those with reddish eyeshadow to match my auburn hair.

    At least I look like I now have eyes with the lower lids tatt. 

    I don't mind enhancing -- rather do that than have too much.  she offered to add to it with in 6 weeks if I wanted.  I chose not to.

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  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited December 2007

    Today being New Year's Eve (day), I am going to carry out a rather critical operation so that I can enter the new year without a fuzzy lip or chin: waxing.

    I have had this kit, Poetic Waxing, for over a year.  Used it once before chemo, then, of course, did not need to use it for months and months.  I really should have waxed a couple of months ago, but I've been chicken because the first time was so stressful.  I couldn't get the wax to melt fast enough, then couldn't keep the wax at the right temp, then nearly killed myself ripping the darn wax off.  Yell  Get the picture?

    Anybody here have experience with home waxing?  I need help.

    Tina

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  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited December 2007

    Tina, there is a cool wax kit that I bought once. COOL literally, because it doesn't needed to be heated so hot that it burns you. I got it at CVS- in the hair removal section.

    I have found though that the wax gets everywhere and is hard to get off.

    I don't think I am coordinated enough for that procedure!

    Good luck- you are brave! 

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  • PuppyFive
    PuppyFive Member Posts: 2,808
    edited December 2007

    Tina, I have a wax machine(very small) with rollers on the stick!

    very easy to use, with a piece of paper! I am a hairstylist, so if You can not find one let me know, i can get one at my store!

    Puppy

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    I tried the waxing sheets (more like DUCT TAPE for the legs) and screamed when I pulled them off!  Then I had ingrown hairs after that. I would love a real home waxing kit that works!

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  • PuppyFive
    PuppyFive Member Posts: 2,808
    edited December 2007

    I used this one on my DH! eyebrows, He kept comming back!

    I know what you are saying, some are Horror treatments!!

    OH could I tell stories about bikini waxingSealed

    Puppy

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    Laser hair removal is the way to go. I only did a Brazilian, but many women do facial hair and even legs and underarms. After chemo made me hairless "down there," I was too spoiled to go back to shaving or waxing, so I totally offed it! Very nice!

    ~Marin

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  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited January 2008

    Marin, REALLLLLY???? <me, googly eyed>  Oh, the secrets we give up on these boards.  LOL

    As it happened, we had unexpected company and I never got to do the waxing, so here I am, hairy in the New Year.   Puppy, what you are talking about sounds interesting, esp. the part about no or little pain.  How should I search for them on the internet?  What key words do you suggest?

    Tina

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  • PuppyFive
    PuppyFive Member Posts: 2,808
    edited January 2008

    Tina, it is called fast and easy, "face station waxer"!

    I know You will love it! if You Have a problem or they expect too much money for it, PM me!

    Marin, HEHE

    Puppy

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