Jan 2008--Ain't it Great?

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  • sheshe48
    sheshe48 Member Posts: 338
    edited December 2007

    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks for the welcome, Kimberly i'm not sure about the medical trial. I volunteered to do the clinical trial, I wanted to make my contrabution (sp) I just want to end bc for everyone. Oh Vettegal hope you are recovery from your surgery, just take it easy during the Christmas. Welcome LJ13, do you know what kind of surgery they want to do on you yet?  It's the not knowing is what I hate. I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas, enjoy your vacation D1.

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  • vettegal
    vettegal Member Posts: 287
    edited December 2007

    good morning jewels,

                        Welcome our new sisters to the group! I am still in pain..trying to figure out what i need to wear to my parents christmas eve dinner. Need something to hide the drain. the pain meds work great. need totake off one more bandage so ican take a quick shower. put my contacts in this a.m. they feel weird I want to wish everyone of you a merry christmas and thanks for all the thoughts and prayers. It means the world to me and my hubby.Smile

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    Hi Sheshe48.

    They haven't said much about surgery, since it would be months away (2 months of AC, 2 months of a taxane). Their hope/expectation is that chemo will shrink the tumors significantly. This would reduce the amount of tissue that would need to be removed. I know I'll lose the axillary and mammary nodes.

    I said I didn't really care about saving anything, I just wanted to be sure that the cancer was all gone. The surgeon gently and wisely said, "You don't have to make a sacrifice of your breast." She is wise. I think that's something we do. We figure we can sacrifice them and mercy will then be shown us.

    Anyway, if the tumor does shrink, my current inclination is lumpectomy with reconstruction. I'm very small, so it should be a pretty easy job. Problem will be finding any body fat to put into the breast  ;) 

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  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited December 2007

    Vettegal, I was hoping that some of your pain would be diminished by this morning.  Atlease the pain meds are working for you. 

    I wore my dh tank t-shirt and pinned the drain to that and then wore a loose fitting top over that, make sure your as comfortable as possible, your parents are going to be tickled that your there!!!!

    I so can relate to what your going through, I didn't want to tell you that it is a doozy of a recovery, but I promise it will get better real soon.   You take care and let yourself be taken care of by your family, Merry Christmas, Carol

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  • wvgirl
    wvgirl Member Posts: 196
    edited December 2007

    Hello everyone,

     I will start my chemo 1/2 i get my port 12/27 at that time they will do another biop of my breast this will decide which group I will be placed in for the clinical trial I have signed up to do. I hope everyone here has a Blessed Christmas.

                                                        Hugs to all

                                                                          WVGIRL

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  • Determined1
    Determined1 Member Posts: 806
    edited December 2007

    Gosh, you take off for a couple of days and I believe the JJs (January Jewels--Vettegal's dh named us that) have doubled in size.

    First of all, Vettegal--good to hear you're home.  I imagine you're having your Christmas eve dinner with your drains suitably dressed.  Take the pain meds for as long as you need them.  That's why you have them.  I did find I could get by during day after a while with just something over the counter.  That way I didn't miss so much of the family action in la la land.

    I cannot believe the number of us starting tx's on Dec. 27.  The Jewels will be sparklin' that day, won't we???

    NYC was great, if not wet.  We walked miles and miles (even in a driving rain), but it felt great to be outside with millions of my closest friends.  We window shopped and did a walking tour (of my dh's making) of the lights in the city.  What a magical place.  I love the energy, but am glad I don't live there all the time--it would be exhausting!  And you'd have to have A LOT of money!  But it was great to get away and be with my family.

    Cool experience on the train home.  I sat next to, you'll never guess, Hoda Kotb!  We exchanged a little small talk for the first half hour, but then I couldn't stand it any longer and I said, "I hope this isn't too personal or forward of me, but thank you for sharing your bc experience--it came at a time I was being diagnosed myself and really helped."  After that we were fast friends.  My husband was amazed as I can be talkative, but am usually tongue-tied around famous people.  She shared her journey with me and listened as I shared mine with her.  She seemed genuinely interested in how my family was coping and all in all, was a very nice person.  It's funny, about the time I was being dx'd she did her series of reports on the Today show and now, here I am on the brink of chemo and she pops into my life again.  I'm not sure what it means, but it must be a sign of some sort.  Just wish I knew what it meant...  Maybe just to remind me that things will be back to normal (whatever that is) before I know it.  It was exciting for me.

    I'll try to catch up with everyone and read the posts more carefully (have the drains come out, Carol?) later.  We're getting ready to have our traditional Christmas Eve dinner of rice with milk/sugar/cinnamon and lefse (my dh is Scandinavian).  Dinner on Christmas day is ALWAYS much better! :)

    Merry Christmas, everyone!!!

    D1

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  • deb102307
    deb102307 Member Posts: 248
    edited December 2007

    Merry Christmas January Jewels!

    I will be having my port put in on Jan 7th and first treatment on the 8th.  Not wasting any time there.  It was delayed a week due to not being able to get the port put in til then.  Will have 4 AC every 2 weeks as can be tolerated and then 4 Taxol or Taxotere every 3 weeks.  I am so ready to be doing something.  Tired of waiting though everything has been going pretty quickly.

    One question......Is there anyone else out there that just can't seem to remember things because their brain is too full?  I can usually recall almost anything but this last week has been horrible and I haven't even started chemo yet.Yell

    Vettegal....hope the pain is diminishing for you and that you were able to deal with the drains.  They had the tubing long enough on mine that I stuck them in a fanny pack.

    D1 ...Glad you enjoyed NY.  I agree, nice to visit but can't afford to live there.

    Well, better think about getting to bed.  Santa is coming ya know!

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  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited December 2007

    Deb, (D1), so nice to see you on line this evening before I hit the hay.   How cool to have a conversation with Hoda!!!!  I normally would not even have a clue about morning TV or for that matter any tv during the day, (except I have been recording Ellen) for the past year or so.  I actually would have never spent more than a moment on listening to a story on breast cancer.  Low and behold we're a moment in history at this point!

    Did you see a show while in NYC?  Hoping you took a little down time, or atleast could veg to another state of mind for atleast a few hours during your  trip. 

    Hey my tubes are out, healing more every day, went to sister in law tonight, brother in law spent the evening at emergency, (cut his hand trimming the beef).  Left at 2:30 home by 8:30, bummer... I tried politely to reiterate that a cut hand will heal and the evening will go on... I hate to say it but life does not stop at any level of trauma so to speak!!! 

    Hoping you have a good Xmas day tomorrow, personally looking forward to a pretty mellow day, its jeans, sweatshirts, and slippers at our house tomorrow for a party of 14.   Hoping you and all have a mellow day, Carol

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  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited December 2007

    Vettegal, hope your Xmas eve was comfortable for you.  Hoping you'll need  a few less pain meds tomorrow, and your continuing to mend with a little less pain each day, Carol

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  • jkiss75
    jkiss75 Member Posts: 20
    edited December 2007

    Hello Ladies...has the shipped sailed or can I still jump on?

    I am scheduled to start Jan 3rd with A/C every 2wks x 4 and T 2wks x 4. This date may change slightly as I am after a second opinion plus I want to find an oncologist who is open to complimentary treatment from a ND...we will see.

    Happy Christmas!

    Jenny 

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  • deb102307
    deb102307 Member Posts: 248
    edited December 2007

    Jenny, of course you can join in.  Sorry that you have to but this is the best place I have found to be able to "chat" back and forth and support each other.

    Looks like you and I share the triple negative and get to enjoy the extra strength cocktail.

    Hope your Christmas is Merry and that the new year brings a cure for us all.

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  • Determined1
    Determined1 Member Posts: 806
    edited December 2007

    Ho, ho, ho, Deb, things are full speed ahead for you!  Hope you're not as stressed as I am as your day nears!  I spent Christmas day doing about 10 loads of laundry (including those loads of hand wash stuff that seems to live in the bottom of the laundry basket).  I think I'm prepping for Thursday.

    And welcome, Jenny--we always have room for more.  I'm amazed at how many of us have made new year's resolutions to start chemo!  Who'da thunk it?

    Carol, glad the drain removal went okay.  I do think our vision is a bit skewed, but I do agree with you that a cut hand is generally not life-(or holiday) threatening.  What a hard-hearted group we have become!

    I did see a show in NYC.  We got tix to "The Little Mermaid."  It would'nt have been my first choice, but my college girl LOVES that movie and was totally enchanted the entire time.  The show hasn't officially opened, yet, and you could see where they needed to work out some kinks, but the woman who sang the lead was incredible.  Having watched that movie about a million times myself when my girls were young, I was moved to tears several times.  The experience transported me to a time when my girls would sit in the back seat, strapped into their car seats, and we'd bellow the songs to that movie on the tops of our (tuneless) lungs.  Life has been very good.

    Anyway, not sure if I'll get a grip on reality tomorrow, or not.  So I'm going to bed a little early so I can cope with my personal insanity as I prepare for chemo.

    Onward through the fog.

    D1

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  • vettegal
    vettegal Member Posts: 287
    edited December 2007

    good morning Jewels!

             I am up and around. I really hate this drain thing. It really hurts under my arm. I am numb from the elbow on up. It is nit draining as much as the other day. I need to get below 30cc for a 24 hour period, before they can take out. D1, good luck tomorrow, your are in our thoughts and prayers. Give us details. have a calm day today if you can, try to keep your mind off of it(it will be hard)

         Welcome all the new members!

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  • kilika48063
    kilika48063 Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2007

     dec. 26, 2007     11:06a

    i'm in--  I start chemo January 4th. 4 rounds of a/c then i believe taxol.  I meet with the dr on Jan 2 for exact details.  I too am ready to get the ball rolling because of the anticipation. With the support of each other we can do this...thank you to all of you for sharing it really is comforting.      chris

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  • SISKimberly
    SISKimberly Member Posts: 762
    edited December 2007

    Welcome to our newest Jewels-Jenny and Chris.



    D1-I am so glad you had a great time in NYC. I don't know Hoda Kotbe...who is she?



    vittegirl-I get it on the drain thing...it won't be too long, and they'll be gone. I'm numb, too where the nodes were removed. I hear that feeling comes back in its own time, if it does at all. I've got better beeling from elbow up to my underarm. Underarm still really numb and the skin on the side of my left breast is numb. Carol and I had our tubes out practically at the same time, and we're doing great-mine were in for 16 days.



    Good luck to those of you getting ports, biopsies, and starting chemo Dec 27th and into 2/2/08. I won't know until this week sometime when my chemo will begin...I'm thinking it will start next week.



    Hope your Christmas festivities were enjoyable-Carol, you'll look back on the brother in law slicing his hand thing and laugh with your family at future gatherings-boy, what people will do to get attention HaHaHa.



    Take care Jewels (and OHHHH!!! JJ = January Jewels, duh!)

    Your SIS (Sister in Survival)

    KImberly

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  • Determined1
    Determined1 Member Posts: 806
    edited December 2007

    Happy day after Christmas, everyone!

    Kimberly--Hoda Kotb is one of the anchors on the Today show.  She usually comes on after 9am, I think, but sometimes she subs as newsreader for Ann.

    So, several of us get started tomorrow.  WVgirl has her port surgery and DianeB, yuyubear, LJ13 and I start chemo.  Whew!  The post holiday rush, I guess.  I got up this morning and took the first two decadron--it appears this is actually going to happen!  Need to take the next two before 3p.  I've almost finished the laundry and am working on cleaning the house.  I think I might be psychotic!  I've sent everyone off to do present returns/exchanges to get them out of my hair (hmm--weird choice of words...).  I'm nervously excited about tomorrow.  Actually, I can't wait till the first one is over--the unknown is a killer!  I'm VERY nervous about the IV, but I'm so afraid of needles, it's not funny.  Once I get past that, I'm thinking it will be okay.  I hope I can sleep tonight...

    Anyone heard from Sharon?  I think she had her first tx something like 2 weeks ago.  I hope everything is okay for her.

    Sorry about the drains, Vettegal.  I never had any, but as a result, I developed a couple of NASTY seromas.  One leaked out of my boob incision and kept me homebound for several days as I basically stood over the sink with fluid dripping out.  Not fun.  So try to view the drains with some compassion--they are helping you out.  Oh, and the numbness--oh yeah.  I was numb down the back/inside of my arm to my elbow and around my back to my shoulderblade, plus the numbness from my boob toward my arm.  It's getting better.  I still have twinges on my back around my shoulderblade, but from my pit to elbow seems okay.  Armpit still numb (shaving is strange) and top of boob is still numb.  I'm hoping it all comes back--time will tell.

    I'll be back to let you all know how it's going.  But overall I'm ready to get this party started.

    Onward!

    D1

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  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited December 2007

    Great to see some familiar faces (so to speak) this morning!!

    I'm also numb from pit to almost elbow.  I have had kinda a burning sensation that a cool wash cloth helps.  Its not red or anything, I keep thinking that maybe the nerves are trying real hard to heal and that may be causing it.  Seeing the surgeon for followup on Fri will ask.

    I have my onc appt for Thurs just to discuss the treatment plan, I'll following along quite closely to see how you all are doing.  I have choose to get a second opinion by another onc on Monday as well.  Have any of you chose the route of second opinion for onc's?  Hoping that I don't have to make any big decisions and they'll both be in sync.

    Vettegal, hope your numbers are down today, I agree the drain is a pain!!!   Sounds like your pain may have subsided a bit, believe me it gets better.

    Tried for two days to not think much if any about the "C" word, did receive a nice gift from my step daughter, a donation to the Komen Foundation.  Also got a nice homemade blanket to take to treatment.  I guess its back to reality for now... Carol

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  • KathyL
    KathyL Member Posts: 534
    edited December 2007

    Hi fellow Jewels!

    Good luck to everyone starting treatments this week or getting ports.  I still have 2 weeks to go for either and anxiously await all your details :)

    I hated the drains, too.  2 months later, I've healed nicely from them and the SNB, but have no feeling along the armpit incision at all-- feels weird when I shave (haha, won't have to do that much longer!).  The spot on my side where the drain was is sore sometimes... very strange feeling.  I had a lot of feeling in my breast until they did my exchange surgery and now I have none except on the outer edges of the "breast".

    Anyway, geeting real nervous about next month and wishing I did not have to work the next 2 weeks-- I have so much I'd like to do before chemo starts.

    Anyone else who starts soon doing Aloxi?  I found out it will definitely be my pre-med with chemo for nausea.  I hope it works!

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  • sheshe48
    sheshe48 Member Posts: 338
    edited December 2007

    Hi lj13,

    I also was going to have a mastectomy, and the surgeon told me the same thing, we no longer have to make the sacifice. I was told lumpectomy + rads and or chemo = a mastectomy. In my case in was 2 lumpectomies and I will start the chemo in Jan and then 6 and half weeks of rads. I hope all goes well for you and you can start your surgeries and reconstruction. I'm smaller on my right side now, I think I can fix it was a sock or scarf. So far I haven't done it yet.  Get well soon Vettegal.  Good Luck D1 starting chemo, i'm terrified and anxious too and just want to get it over with too.

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  • Determined1
    Determined1 Member Posts: 806
    edited December 2007

    I'm ready.

    My dh helped me put together a bag of Christmas cookies to bribe the chemo staff tomorrow.  I'm hoping it will get me a good person to insert the IV (I am JUST TERRIFIED of that part of it).  I've been drinking water all day long.  A measured 1-1/2 gallons in addition to whatever I normally drink during a day.  I have to put down another 1/2 gallon before 8am, when I arrive for my "day."  Everything was going swimmingly (sorry) till I was at my kid's basketball game tonight.  She was finally getting some playing time (she's had a rough season--very inconsistent play--and I know why, but the coach doesn't--will soon!) so I couldn't leave the stands to get to the bathroom.  When she was finally subbed out I almost fell down the bleachers trying to get to the WC!  Is this how it's going to be???  Have to get to bed soon so I have time to get up at least 4 times to relieve myself, I guess.

    Last supper (hmmm, doesn't sound quite right, but I think you'll all understand) was barbeque ribs from the Rendezvous Restaurant in Memphis.  We live just outside of DC, so we had them flown in.  It was part of my Christmas present.  Unbelievably good.  We also had some of my dh's homemade baked beans (to die for), but I'm worried as they give me gas and I'm not sure that was a good decision on my part...  Hopefully I won't be too gross tomorrow! Embarassed

    I'll be back as soon as I can to give a report.

    Scared as hell, but ready to rock and roll (oh yeah, have the iPod!).  Bring it on!!!!

    Onward through the fog...

    D1

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  • Determined1
    Determined1 Member Posts: 806
    edited December 2007

    Oh man, just read my post.  How selfish!

    Forgot to encourage Carol to get more than one opinion.  I did and the second guy was a real find.  They both gave me different advice (actually the first guy left absolutely everything up to me and wasn't helpful at all), but the second guy took his time and explained stuff in English.  Even though he, too, said I could be considered gray, he laid everything out so well that my decision was easy to make.  So my advice is to seek out another opinion.  They may agree, making your life easier, but even if they don't, you'll be learning along the way and will know how to spot the things that will make your decision easier no matter what.  Like I told Vettegal, you will make the right decision for you, and there is really no wrong decision.

    Kathy--I don't know Aloxi, but I'm not very drug savvy.  (Although my family wants me to go for medicinal marijuana--we're so classy here!)  All I know is, the anti-nausea meds will be our friends.  I plan to be a pain in the ass (PITA to SIS Kimberly) in getting the anti-nausea right.  I may have to loose my hair, but I don't have to barf everytime I look in a mirror!!!!  :)

    It's almost 11:30 to me.  Gotta get to bed.  I have a 6:30 wake up call!

    Later.

    D1

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  • SISKimberly
    SISKimberly Member Posts: 762
    edited December 2007

    D1, I love PITA...and we will certainly be given a little leeway since we're the ones having to go through the lovely experience. I am with you on not barfing...I refuse to throw up...always have refused since I was a child. I hear the oncology nurses are awesome about getting the meds just right for each person. I hope all goes well for you tomorrow-today if you're already asleep as you should be by now.



    To all of you starting out tomorrow, know the rest of us are here supporting you.



    Carol, I'd get that second opinion, too. It can't hurt. I got so lucky!!!! Everywhere I go that is affiliated with Sutter, I'm asked who my team is and when I tell them who my oncologist is, my breast surgeon, and my plastic surgeon...they all say,"You are so lucky. You've got the dream team!!!!"



    Sleep well Jewels,

    SIS Kimberly

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  • vettegal
    vettegal Member Posts: 287
    edited December 2007

    Hi Jewels,

           Went to the dr yesteray they removedn the drain, i had a rash/burn from the tape they had in my inscision which hurts more than th cut itself. I feel like a ooze coming out and it is from the tape. Good luck to everyone today, my thought and prayers are with you all. I have to call and make an appt with the onc. for next week. Waiting for my path results on friday. praying they are clean!!Smile no more percacets for me..talk about constipation..drinking apple juice all day today! will check the boards later to see how everything went.

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  • KathyL
    KathyL Member Posts: 534
    edited December 2007

    Hi girls!  Thinking of you all...

    D1: best of luck today.  We're all thinking happy thoughts without nausea for you.  Give all the (gory or not0 details when you can :)

    Vettegal: Congrats on loosing the drain!  Freedom :)  I too was tape sensitive.  Try some Aquaphor on your skin.  Or baby Aveeno lotion.

    Carol: I agree with all the above.  Go for the 2nd opinion!  Info is power and getting another person's thoughts may give you new info., or reinforce what you already know (which is still good/reassuring).

    Sheshe:  Look for breast inserts that may give you some more shape (rather than a sock or something else-- you may have less feeling in that breast and not realize if it slips out!  Someone told me this happened to her once).  I think you can get the inserts through the Amer. Cancer Society or though wig/mastecomy shops-- I know a shops here in little ol' DE have them.

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  • deeat58
    deeat58 Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2007

    well i guess you could say that we are in the same boat igot my first treatment dec. 27 and have three more to go every three week . then 1 every week for twelve week does it ever end.i get so scared  sometime .one thing i have to been great for is that both my children are grown and can take care of there selves.guess thats enough of my sad talk for today . hope every thing goes well your next treatment

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    Getting a little nervous. Just a little over 2 hours to go. I guess the first one is scariest. I'll pop the Ativan in about an hour. My doc prescribed Emend for the anti-nausea/antiemitic, and the staff will tell me when to take it. (Lordy but that stuff is expensive!)

    My last supper (I understand totally Determined1) was a sirloin with onion rings and garlic bread.

    Dam I'm anxious about this. Only one part of me wants to do this ... the part that wants to stay alive. No matter how bad it might be, that's what I have to hold onto ... it's so I get to keep living. 

    Partner got me an MP3 player for Xmas, I plan to listen to the Carpenters (who can be depressed listening to "Top of the World"?), some 50s stuff (Gary Lewis and the Playboys), Moody Blues, some classical. I also am going to take a portable DVD player in case I need to be even more distracted. I have a PDA to play some games. You'd think I was going away for a week, not 3-4 hours  ;)

    Good luck to all the other 12/27 jewels. I'll be thinking of you and hoping it goes well for you too. 

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  • SISKimberly
    SISKimberly Member Posts: 762
    edited December 2007

    Welcome Deeat58...and no worries about 'sad talk'. That is why we are here for eachother...to support eachother in good times and in bad times...sounds like a wedding ceremony...and in a way we are wedded to this disease for life. Even when it's gone...we will always be vigilant to make sure it stays away. What is your cocktail? 4 x 3 for what and 1x 12 (man that's a long time) for what else?



    Kathy good advice for SheShe and your "last supper sounded fabulous LJ13...good luck today...with all of your entertainment devices you should have no trouble distracting yourself.



    Vettegal-WhooHoo on the drain removal!!!! I was tape sensitive, too. I agree that those rashy tape burns hurt worse. Even paper tape wasn't a relief. So, you're drain free and ready to move onto the next stage. Here's hoping for a good Path report.



    D1- Let us know how you're doing. I know you'll face your fear of needles and kick its butt!



    I know I'm forgetting someone-so again, if you're doing your first round of chemo today....be brave...we're here for you all...and do give us the benefit of your experiences...those of us still waiting to get that first one over with will be appreciative.



    My good news...I've been able to move my arms almost above my head and out to the sides fully extended. Still some pulling and chest muscle spasms, but I'm so excited I can put a regular shirt on over my head...getfing it off is rather comical, but doable :-)



    Have a great day Jewels,

    Your SIS (Sister in Survival)

    Kimberly

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  • deb102307
    deb102307 Member Posts: 248
    edited December 2007

    Hugs and good thoughts to all who start today.  I know everyone has mixed feelings of wanting to get started yet afraid of what side effects will show up.  Hopefully none for all of you!

    D1 - you didn't sound a bit selfish to me.  We are all on the same cruise line and I like to think we are all individual life boats, helping each other to feel safe and be able to sail as smoothly as we can. And I also like the "PITA" acronym.  Sure I will use it a lot!  Cool

    Vettegal - I also had a reaction to the tape and itched like crazy.  It healed pretty quickly and as long as I get lotion on it, was bearable.

    Hope everyone posts when they feel up to it.  Unfortunately, I am one of those people that wants to know everything.

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  • deeat58
    deeat58 Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2007

    YOU ASK ABOUT THE TREATMENT IT IS ASRIGMYCIN AND CYTOXGNEVERY 3 WEEKS X4 TREATMENTS AND THEN TAXOLX12 WEEK BOY THAT SURE IS A LOT OF DRUGS DONT YOU THINK

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  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited December 2007

    To those of you starting treatment today, I'll be thinking of you and sending positive vibes!!

    D1 - Hoping you cranked up the POD, I know you'll do fine.  Did you have a port put in?   Look at what you've been through already, you are a tough cookie.  I loved your water story, cracked my dh up too. 

    Vettegal, yeah on the drain, your exactly one week behind me, and mobility is getting better everyday.  I'm with Kimberly, I can put on just about any shirt, but last night I was practically stuck standing in my walk in closet with my shirt stuck on my head over my eyes and right shoulder.   What a sight!!!  Good luck with the apple juice, think I'd stay close to the potty today!!

    I just found out yesterday that my neighbor is diagnosed with bladder cancer, he has started his treatments last week at the onc center I have my appt with today.  He had positive things to say, in fact his onc is the same one I see today as well.  Must be something in the water here in my small town!!  

    In a strange way looking forward to talking about treatment today, I've put myself in a fog for the last couple days, but its now time to gear up, to move ahead.  Carol

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