slowing metabolism and weight issues

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yellowrose
yellowrose Member Posts: 886

In the year prior to the bc diagnosis, I gained alot of weight.  This was in spite of exercising 3-4 times a week.

I am trying desparately to lose the added poundage as I am strongly ER/PR+ and I know that added weight creates more estrogen.

I am now exercising one hour every day. (gym, power walking, etc.)  This hasn't been easy because the tamoxifen has definitely caused joint pain, especially in the knees. In 11 weeks I have lost a total of 9 lbs and am so frustrated because I have so far to go.

I have a very healthy mostly vegetarian diet so I can't figure out how to kick start this slowing metabolism.  Any ideas???

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  • Nicole58144
    Nicole58144 Member Posts: 23
    edited October 2007

    I have had success with weight watchers.  You are doing the right thing being in the gym.  If you stick with your program the weight will continue to fall off.  I wish it was as easy to lose as it is to gain.  9 lbs. is a lot, and you should be proud.  Maybe set small goals for yourself.  Something like when I lose ten lbs. I'll get a new pair of walking shoes, or when I lose 15 lbs. I'll treat myself to a massage.  Things that are for you and have nothing to do with food.  I was able to stop by a weight watchers office and buy all of the books to get started.  I was not doing the meetings.  Girlfriends of mine started our own little meetings and it really worked.  I hope this helps.  It is tough, but you are doing great.  Stay on the horse and you'll be so happy you did.

    Nicole

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2007

    You need to be religious and very conscientious about both your caloric intake and the intensity of your exercise, especially the cardio. Even those who have a normal metabolism need to be performing vigorous exercise most days of the week, for at least 30 minutes. This means alot of heavy sweating with your heart rate at about 65% of it's maximum for the entire time. Mixing up the cardio (running/fast walking one day, elliptical the next, kickboxing the next, etc.) really works wonders for not only efficient, effective fat-burning, but for yielding psychological benefits as well (because it's fun!). Additionally, you should spend another 2-3 sessions a week lifting weights to increase muscle mass, thus promoting not only better bone health but assisting the goal of burning fat. Calorically, one can overeat on a vegetarian diet as well as on a meat & potatoes one. It's all about making sure that you stay well within a certain range. Generally speaking, I find this formula to work well for me although it's not one that's prescribed or advocated by any dietary organizations: Multiply your desired weight by 11-13 (11 if you're very sedentary/13 if you're quite active, as described above). The resulting number is a good daily caloric intake to aim for. Most of the usual guidelines recommend alot more calories, but I find that being post-menopausal AND post-bc treatment, we do indeed have slower metabolisms and need to adjust our intakes with that in mind.

    I know that these are tough recommendations, but if you really want to lose the weight, they might be exactly what's necessary. If it's any comfort, you're definitely NOT ALONE!

    ~Marin

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited October 2007

    Nicole, you are not the only women I've heard of that had success with weight watchers. I think they have a good program.

    You'll never lose very much weight with exercise alone, so diet control will always be a really important aspect.  

    That's not to say that exercise isn't important. It's just that we can eat so much faster than we can burn off exercising! 

  • juanita63
    juanita63 Member Posts: 171
    edited October 2007

    Try sparkpeople.com.  I've been using it about a month.  You register what you eat and excercise that you do.  And there are teams you join for support.

  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited October 2007

    Okay, here's my story.

    I want to lose about 10 pounds.  I love to eat.  It's really hard for me to cut my food intake because I really am not pigging out.

    Perhaps I could lose the pounds through exercise, alone?  I do walk 2 miles or more about 4 times per week, 7 when I'm being really good.  Am considering a Pilates or yoga class.  HATE gyms.

    What's a good plan for me?  Just remembered I do have a jumprope.  Help!

    Tina

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2007

    Tina...I hate to say this, but it is my opinion that, in order to lose weight solely through exercise, you'll need to work out, rigorously, most of your waking hours. Since it's an uphill battle for us anyway, trying to burn enough calories for weight loss, without decreasing caloric intake, is almost impossible. I'm not saying you can't do it, but I think that you may be setting yourself up for disappointment and frustration. Maybe you can try and learn to cook in a low cal, but delicious, way..? Juanita's recommendation, above, is excellent. I use SparkPeople asa  resource for fitness issues and for recipes, but they have so much encouragement and help on their site. Check it out:

    http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/mysparkstart.asp

    ~Marin

  • hollyhobby
    hollyhobby Member Posts: 6
    edited October 2007

    Fitchik,

      you appear to very knowledgeable about fitness and health. I'm kinda of afraid to do weight lifting with my arm in fear of getting lymphadema. Do any of you have advice about that.

    Thanks

    hollyhobby : )

  • Pharmmom
    Pharmmom Member Posts: 300
    edited October 2007

    I am having a similar problem!!!  i can't get these 7 pounds off to save my life!!  It was different at 37 but now at 43 I'm like a different person.  My metabolism has slowed and my shape has changed.  It is making me nuts.  I know the instant menopause did not help me.  I work alot and so I do get tired.  I'm mom to 2 teenagers and an autistic 11 year old.  I am getting really frustrated with my self/my body.  Help!!! 

    Barb

  • cath52
    cath52 Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2007

    I too am struggling with my weight. About a year and a half before my diagnosis Feb.06 I had joined Curves and lost about 15 pds. Felt good and down 4 dress sizes. Then had surgery, chemo,radiation, Herceptin for a year and have gained almost all of it back. Have been finished with my treatments now for 4 months and have probably gained 5 pds more. Really frustrating. Have been back at Curves for a year and the scales continue to go up. I thought after finishing treatments I would be able to get all this back off but that doesn't seem to be happening. How long does getting your body back to normal take?

  • Pharmmom
    Pharmmom Member Posts: 300
    edited October 2007

    Hi Cath,

    I hear you!! I go on the scale and lose 2 pounds.  Then I go on a day or two later and have gained 3 back!!!  Its maddening.  I am an active person.  I don't sit and eat a ton of food.  I am on my feet at work all the time.  I don't know I'm trying to follow the points on WW.  I'm not always perfect but I'm not off the charts and sitting eating donuts or anything crazy.  Yes if I go out to dinner "occasionally" I will indulge a bit.  What I'm trying to say is I just know this has to do with the BC treatment the hormonal therapy, the menopause it has just completely screwed me up.  I was thinner when I stopped  treatment but its been 5 years and now I've gained 7 pounds (maybe a few more) since then.  It is making me nuts. 

    Barb

  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited October 2007

    Oh, Marin, thanks for the encouragement. Smile  I will look into sparkpeople and see what I can see. 

    Maybe I should just give up my nightly glass of wine.  Let's see, at approx. 150 calories, it would only take going without about 23 glasses to lose one pound (3500 calories).  Assuming one glass per night, that's only three weeks!  Gee, maybe I can do this.

    OTOH, I do have my weak moments. LOL

    Getting off my butt,

    Tina

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2007

    I don't know how helpful this is, but it works for me and for many of my students and it's not exactly revolutionary. Identifying something that you can eliminate from your daily intake is a great way to lose weight (as long as you don't eat like crazy on the premise that you're being 'so good'!), but instead of thinking of it as giving something up, it might be alot more palatable if you found a yummy, lo-cal substitute..? I know, not rocket science, but I think it's important to avoid feeling like a martyr and feeling so deprived.

    As for the lymphedema question, hollyhobby, the jury appears to be still out on that question, but the thought seems to be leaning towards encouraging us to lift weights moderately. I'd say that you should first check with your medical pro and, if you have the okay, start a program where you use only 5 to 8-lb. dumbells. It will be good for your bones, your metabolism and your overall sense of well-being and shouldn't increase your risk of lymphedema (or so research results are beginning to tell us). Of course, if you see any swelling or feel any fullness, stop immediately.

    ~Marin

  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited November 2007

    I just read something, where was it, yesterday, that interval training is much, much more effective than steady as she goes, ie. bursts of very strenuous activity intermixed with the steadier, slower pace.  Hmmmm, I think it may have been in an older Oprah magazine at the hairdressers's..........

    Anyway, I will try the jumprope routine today.  My plan is to alternate those leisurely skips with bouts of maybe 50 or so jump-jump-jumps for at least 15 minutes.  I wonder if my walking shoes are adequate for the impact or if I should get something else?

    Tina

  • Pharmmom
    Pharmmom Member Posts: 300
    edited November 2007

    I walked 25 minutes yesterday and I will walk again today too. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    The weight I put on since taking Tamox is been in my stomach and I can't get rid of it. I gained 10 lbs which doesn't seem like alot but it's enough to make me feel uncomfortable. I'm wondering if my metabolism and age are linked. Undecided

    dawn

  • QueenSansaStark
    QueenSansaStark Member Posts: 207
    edited December 2007
    Count me in as another one who has "Tamoxifen belly!" Ack! Surprised I was a twig when I was a young thing but now I'm definitely more of a "tree trunk," LOL. I did NOT lose weight during chemo and now with the Tamox I have gone into a "postmenopausal" apple-shaped weight gain. I want to trim some of this off and get into shape, not only because I'm also strongly ER/PR+ (100%) and I know losing weight will get rid of some of this estrogen, but the apple-shaped weight gain is bad for the ol' ticker and pancreas...I think I should probably join a gym because the fact that I am paying $ will get me motivated to go there and use it...

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