O/T Need Printer Advice
Can anyone recommend a basic printer that will print decent looking documents in black and white and not cost an arm and a leg?
I would like a laser printer because the jet ones all seem to break on me.
I am sitting here with TWO broken printers- one is a dell the other is a hewlett packard.
I need a new one asap. But don't want to buy the wrong one.
Thanks!
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I can't help, but if you google what you're looking for with "reviews" you can find some good input. Then see if your local Office Max or whatever carries it.
Plus, any local computer or office supply store should have a guru techie type who can tell you exactly what you need to know.
Anne
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G,
I'd go to the store as Anne suggested, but when you find a few that suit your needs, check out their prices online (Buy.com, circuit city, etc). Especially this time of year, you might find it cheaper in cyberspace as many places are offering free shipping...
When you find a few to compare, check out the cost of the replacement cartridges, too. I'm finding more and more that the printers are getting cheaper for a reason - so they can rob you blind when you buy the ink! And as most laser printers have cartridges (think: photo copy machine cartridges), it can cost a pretty penny just to be able to print something...
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If you only need B&W, a laser can be very cheap (about $100) and very good. Yes, the toner cartridge costs a lot. You just can't seem to avoid this issue.
HOWEVER, the price per page for laser is cheaper than ink jet. And, laser printing doesn't run if it gets wet.
Sometimes, the smartest thing to do when you run out of ink is to throw out the printer and buy a new one. Ghastly isn't it?
Tina
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HP makes a small laser printer that was in the $200 range last year. I don't have the model number at hand, but I would have purchased it if I could have! My husband had the same model at work and it was very reliable. Even though the toner cartridges for a B & W laser printer can be costly, I think you come out better than with an inkejet and cartridges because you can get so many prints from a laser cartridge.
I have purchased computer printers and peripherals from overstock.com in the past and have been very pleased. They usually have user-submitted reviews of the items that I find helpful.
Finally, a refurbished printer with a warranty can be just as good as a brand new one. I have purchased lots of refurbished computer equipment and have genrally been satisfied.
Tina,
We have no less than 12 printers in my house at the moment. We have kept them all since our first purchase nearly 10 years ago. My husband was allowed to bring home printers from work when they were replaced and I have purchased a couple at thrift stores. Even with all those printers, though, my husband could not find one of them with ink in it to print a document the other night! Money is tight and ink cartridges are low on our list of priorities right now. It is true, though, that I could buy a new printer for less than I could buy the brand-name cartridges for our various printers.
Now, if only I could raise money for my dream printer: a COLOR laser! LOL
Diane
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Diane, I also have several printers.
One of them is an HP Color LaserJet 2600n. I've had it for a couple of years and it's really pretty good, considering the money. I think you can still pick them up at places like Staples for about $250.00. I would have to check my old receipts but I think I paid somewhere in that area.
Tina
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G, well I have lots of printers in my office.... big, small, laser, ink jet...so here is my 2cents....
for home I went to walmart bought the $29.00 HP printer and it takes one cartidge at a time...just one I think for everyday printing...(HP1320 i think) and one for photo i think ..now I print photos, cards and just letters....no problems.... and if it breaks I go get a new updated one..cuz the day you buy it is the day its outdated..... anyway if you have any ? PM me or call me....
hugs MB
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From my experience of having been working at a printing company for decades, I can give you a logical way to narrow your choices.
- manufacture
- price
- speed
- quality (resolution)
- paper handling, size and capacity
- duplex printing
- cartridge availability and price
Once you see what your priorities are, you will see what works the best for you. Personally I would recommend HP, Canon or Brother if resolution is not a big deal for you.
Hugs,
Fumi
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I've been through sooo many! I've had a lot of trouble with HP printers. We now have 2 Brother printer/scanner/fax/copiers and they are awesome. I think they were around $100 each. The only one I'd stay away from is Lexmark. I used to have one at work and it was a nightmare. I have heard horror stories about Lexmark printers and after what I went through, I believe them!
Hugs
Erica
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Erica, I thought I was the only one on the planet who had issues with HP printers! HATE THEM - although we have two of them (one business, one for my son to do his reports with). Love the Canon printers, though...
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I'm not familiar with laser printers, just inkjets, so can't help there. But for good prices and a reviews, try Newegg online. The site is a bit geeky, but they have some of the best prices around and very fast (and generally cheap) shipping.
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HP makes a decent cheap laser printer. I can't remember the model number, but have seen it at Staples. I would also recommend Brother. I have a Brother all-in-one laser that I've been using 2+ years and very happy with it. HP has always made good laser printers. I wonder if the people who have had problems with HP are with the ink jets.
I always read epinions.com for reviews from users.
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Drum roll......
and the winner is!
Canon Pixma 310 Inkjet all in one
The 14 year old salesman at Best Buy talked me out of a laser printer... can't remember his reasoning but he was making brilliant sense!
This printer cost $99
There was one better than it by Cannon for $169 but the salesman said it is the exact same thing as the $99 one except it has a video display that you can play with to turn it on.
I love this kid!
It took two hours to set it up. There is no such thing as taking something out of the box and plugging it in anymore!
Now this whole new system costs as much as the replacement cartridges for my Dell All in One that died and my HP deskjet that died.
While I was at Best Buy I longingly looked at the laptops. I dream of owning one of them. I do not know WHERE to begin with those. It seems like they are hard to type on... are they?
And how do you connect it to the internet?
My Salesman told me that a Mac is not worth the money- that was nice to hear since they are over $1000 and he was suggesting Gateway or HP
Any thoughts on laptops for a completely untechnical person with fat fingers????
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I was loving that salesguy until he slammed Macs. Trust me, I've got two Apple laptops and four desktops (most of them are for my business) and never paid even close to $1000 for any of them, including the 17" Powerbook G4 I'm typing this from now. In the nine years since I've started using Macs, I've had a total of four crashes - and each time, my machine told me exactly what caused the problem and how to fix it (no "Your computer has just performed an illegal operation" error messages, thankfully).
Gateway and HP may make good hardware, but it still has to run on Windows (can you tell I loathe that platform?!?). Feel sorry for all the folks who got Windows Vista and had to go back to XP.
Truthfully, though, the computer you get will only be as good as the programs you need to do what you do. With the mag, we work with lots of graphics and design, so Macs are what we use. If you'll only be surfing and using Microsoft office programs (Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc), anything you get will work well, even if it may be obsolete in a few years, lol (as is the case with all electronics, sadly).
I say do the footwork (visit lots of stores) and get what works best for your fingers)
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Ok Felicia, you really got me going here.
I have always promised myself that my next computer will be a mac.
I do need something that can do graphics and fun things.
Can you have a mac laptop and a pc desktop and be able to interchange the work???
THANK you for helping me with this!
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WOOHOO for the Canon Pixma! I have an older version of their all in one and bought another for my son last Christmas. I really like Canon inkjets; I still like the HP for a solid, low cost b & W laser.
I don't know about Macs, but my understanding is they include some kind of software that allows you to use Windows programs if necessary.
That being said, I'll give you my 2 cents (more like a dollar and a half!!!!!!) regarding desktop/laptop choices.
HP bought out Compaq a couple of years ago. By far, the absolute worst computer I have ever owned was a Compaq. They used to be great, but in the early 2000's, things really went downhill. Their business machines were still acceptable for a while, but then they went south. I fear that in buying out Compaq, HP has gone waaaaay downhill. I do know at one time they were charging outrageous amounts for tech support. If you buy one of their systems, trust me: YOU WILL NEED TECH SUPPORT
I have had a Gateway server, Gateway desktop, and Gateway laptop. I haven't had any real hardware issues with them except for stuff that any company would have (power supplies needing to be replaced after x number of years, for example). I was absolutely floored by their tech support. My dad gave me a "dead" Gateway laptop that I managed to resurrect. I was able to access their online LIVE tech support and used instant messaging in real time to get answers to some questions I had. The laptop was a model from 2001, but Gateway still carried parts I needed for it through MUNDOCORP. That is something that is hard to find in an older system.
I have built a number of desktop systems and have found that Intel processors are, for the most part, much more reliable than AMD processors. That is something I would look for in a laptop as well.
I was given an ACER laptop this past summer as a 40th birthday present. It was in the $500 range and came loaded with Windows Vista (I'm not "in love" with Vista). It has built in wi-fi, built in blue tooth for wireless connectivity to printers and cell phones, and its dvd burner plays all formats of dvd's--including "blue ray" discs. I am very impressed with it. The one thing I hate about most every system out there is they come with antivirus pre-installed. I prefer to use AVG free antivirus from GRISOFT and it's such a pain in the rear to remove all traces of the preinstalled antivirus when its trial period is expired.
I have heard that Sony has problems with their laptops, Toshiba is so-so. I really would have to say the Acer is doing what I need it to for now (lots of graphics creation and word processing) and is a good choice for the money. I have not needed their tech support, so cannot comment on that.
Oh, I have also heard of some tech support nightmares from Dell. That was a year or so ago, though. Maybe they've gotten their act back together.
So, if you find that a mac is out of reach (I imagine the cost might be justified though! LOL), you have my take on the others. OH, whatever you do, never ever ever ever even look sideways at an E-machine. (heard they were going out of business some time ago but I still see them here and there) and don't trust the Home Shopping Network as far as computers go.
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Yes, Virginia - There IS a Santa Claus :-)
No problem with using a Mac at home and a PC at work (I do it all the time with my side gig. Thank the Lord for USB ports!), but you can actually also do both on one machine. To do that, Mac would probably be your best option, as I think the only way a PC could do it would be through Vista, and I know that the bugs with that program are flying fast and furious. The Mac program that allows you to run both platforms on one machine is called "Boot Camp" and comes standard with the new Mac operating system called Leopard - Mac OS 10.5
I have a friend who just bought a new G5 and installed Windows XP on it. I joked with him that it was the perfect way to ruin a good machine, lol, but he says it is purring like a kitten...
Here is Apple's site with info on Leopard and how to choose the right Mac for your needs: http://www.apple.com/getamac/whichmac.html. If you can get to the Apple store in NYC or the one at the Pallisades Mall in Rockland County, take one for a test spin - but DON'T buy there! I have a friend who is a Mac techie/authorized Mac dealer who could get it for a bit cheaper than Apple advertises. He loves new Mac folks :-) -
I don't use a Mac but I believe if you get an iMac with boot camp as Felicia says above, you can also buy VMware Fusion for about $70 to allow you to run both the Mac side & the Windows side at the same time.
Not sure if this changed, but boot camp used to require a re-boot to get from Mac to Windows and Windows to Mac. Fusion lets you run Windows as a virtual machine from the boot camp partition.
Here's the website for Fusion & they give a lot more information:
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With the new OS (Leopard), there's no need to reboot to switch from one to the other. But I've heard Fusion is pretty cool...
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You guys are wonderful!
I have to test drive one.
I will make a list from all the things here about what I should have on it.
Please forgive this VERY NAIVE question-
how do you connect to the internet if it is not plugged in? Or do you run a wire to the modem? If that is the case, then I don't want to get it because I want something I can use anywhere.
I better see if I can get to a mac store instead of a store like best buy!
Thank you all so much!!
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G, no such thing as a naive question when it comes to technology and computers, lol...
Your Internet connection will be wireless. No modem, no cables, no nothing except being plugged into the wall socket (unless you run on battery power). Pretty cool, right?
At my house and office, we have a cable modem. The cable is then run through a little box called a wireless router that distributes the signal all over the house - sort of like radio waves. The computer picks up that feed when you log into your browser. The signal is strong so I can log on in my dining room although the signal is coming from a room in the back of the house...
So, as long as you've got a signal, you can get online - including in an airport, hotel or an Internet cafe. Some places charge a fee to use their signal (some airports do that), but it usually isn't too hard to find a signal if you are out and about - which means you'll always be connected to your bc.org sisters :-)
And btw, places like Best Buy, Office Max and Staples steer you towards Windows platforms because that's what they sell. Just like you wouldn't find a Dell in the Apple store...
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