single or double mastectomy?
I am still trying to decide on a single or double mastectomy and I think I am going to go nuts. I am swaying toward a single. My family says it's my choice which I know. My radiation oncologist and ob/gyn don't think it is necessary. Nothing showed in other breast. I really would like to only lose one breast. My radiation oncologist said that the percentage of spreading to other side was only .6%. Both he and my ob/gyn don't think it is necessary only if I want peice of mind. My surgeon said I might want to only for reconstruction ( equality in breasts) purposes. What I would like to know and forgot to ask the doctor is after lymph node removal can you never have IV ir blood pressure taken on that side. What would happen if you had cancer in both breasts and had lymph node removal in both sides, then what?
Also I read somewhere that they can only do tram flap (which is what I am having) one time and one time only. I could ask my plastic surgeon but I won't be seeing him for a week or so so I figured I would ask here. One more question -has anyone ever had mri show no lymph node involvement but yet had it? Thanks to all for insight. Sometimes I have to ask myself if this is all real. I feel like I am living a nightmare as I'm sure you all have felt too.
Kathleen
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Get a 2nd opinion. I chose double. My mom & sister had breast cancer so I didn't feel as though the cards were stacked in my favor. I don't want to risk going thru a mastectomy & recon again. Besides, once a breast is removed, you are never going to look the same. On the other hand, w/ the odds being in your favor, consider keeping your "good" breast for another reason - sexual stimulation. I had very sensitive nipples & miss them a lot.
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Kathleen,
It might be a good idea to get another professional opinion, if for nothing else than your peace of mind. Losing both breasts is a serious decision and the more information about such a choice can only be a good thing.
I am heading into my 5th year as an ILC survivor. I had a lumpectomy + rads and am doing fine. According to the most recent stats, ILC does not appear to spread to the remaining breast more frequently than IDC....this report seems to be a continually inaccurate piece of information, based on incomplete studies done years ago. I've had several MRI's of both breasts since my diagnosis and all test results are okay.
I had an SNB with 2 nodes removed and have always been hesitant about having blood draws and BP taken in my effected arm. If both breasts w/lymph are removed, I've heard of tests being done on the leg.... calf part, instead of the arms.
Best wishes....so many of us have experienced your fears and are here today, years later to share our experience.
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HI Bean, just thought I would say I am in the same boat. I have 2 ILC's in the left breast, one 4mm and one 9mm. I am driving myself nuts trying to decide whether to do the bilateral or just unilateral. The opinions in the chat rooms seem to be mixed, however there are a lot that end up being diagnosed in the other breast and wish they had done it all at once. The nipple sensitivity thing is big to me too- if they leave one at least I will have that. An interesting thing I heard from someone was that after she had both removed, "other parts" of her body became more sensitive and she actually enjoyed sex more. Not sure if this is a rare occcurance! I am meeting with a ps next week to discuss a DIEP flap- not sure if it is even an option for me but it sounds like the best procedure for me in theory. I think my doctors actually want me to be on hormone blockers even if I do choose to do the bilateral. I just had a biopsy in one node under my arm and it was negative. I think the MRI showed it was ok too. They said until they get in there during surgery and take a look at the nodes, they won't know for sure.
It is funny, last saturday I told my husband absolutely I was only doing the single mastectomy because I felt very strongly about keeping my one good breast. He said, "I agree, I think you are doing the right thing."Then last night I said, Honey, I have changed my mind, I am absolutely going to do the bilateral. He said, "I agree and I think you are doing the right thing." I go back and forth so much I think he has learned to agree with whatever I say!!!
Good luck with your decision, let me know what you decide.
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It is truly an agonizing decision. I am one of the "few" who got cancer in the other breast, 5+ years after IDC. This time it was ILC. Even though my MRI showed cancer in just the one breast (the IDC side had lumpectomy & rads 5 years ago) I couldn't face dealing with the possiblity of cancer returning to the IDC side (which it may never have done!) so I had bilaterals.
There is so much they can do with plastic surgery to make sure a unilateral reconstruction matches up well with the unaffected side. And, if you choose unilateral and later can't live with the thought of cancer returning to the other side, or you don't like the surgical results of a unilateral, there are always options at that time.
I don't know about other parts of my body taking over in the sensitivity department now that I feel nothing in my breasts. That sure would be nice, but I don't expect it to happen! I blame menopause and SSRIs for that!!
Hang in there. You'll figure out what to do.
Anne
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I agree that it is a difficult decision. I had what they told me non-traveling type of cancer. But, you never know. My Surgeon was only going to do a single on my left breast, but my friend was there who is a radiation therapist for and she asked him about the left side and what if I wanted to get a bilateral. He agreed to do the bilateral and said that it will reduce my chances of developing cancer on the other left side even more. I was all for it. I did not want to have to go through this again, or worry daily that I might have to go through it again. My plastic surgeon also agreed with the bilateral. It is better for reconstruction and because of the risk because of my age. I was 35 when I was diagnosed a year ago.
You will do what you feel comfortable with, and what is right for you.
Good luck in your decision. It will work out.
Heather
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Hi Jennifer,
We seem to be in the same boat. I was strongly feeling a single mast but I just have that fear. My radiation/ oncologist says more extensive surgery for possibly nothing but if it gives peace of mind then do it. I feel confident that I will beat this but there is just that fear of it returning. If it does though because of being closely monitored hopefully it would be early enough for just lumpectomy. I think I am going nuts.

Is your surgery scheduled. Mine is Dec. 13. Will be here before we know it...yikes!!!
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I think you have to follow your gut....
You do need to be aware that removing a breast does not "guarantee" that you won't get bc in it. Since they cannot get all the breast tissue, there is always a small chance of recurrence even with a mast.
I thought about removing both initially, but couldn't make that decision. I fretted about it for about 6 months after my mast, wondering if I should have done both....and then I just got past it...and I am glad I only did one.
I did have a TRAM and reduction of the other side for symmetry. The 'girls' match pretty darn good.

If this beast comes back, I figure I will either do a Lat Flap or an S-Gap or who knows what type of recon will be available.
I just couldn't remove a healthy breast knowing that better detection methods and cures are coming out all the time.
HOWEVER...that was me and my decision. YOU gotta do whatever 'feels' right to you. Just make your decision and whatever it is...that is the 'right' decision....Regardless of what happens or doesn't happen later.
Good luck to you all!
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Dear Bean.... ok here is my 2cents..... as they say hind sight is 20/20.. and we all have our own opinions... I am 3 yrs out of DX... I chose at the time to do a single, with reconstr. immediately.... well 3 surguries, 2 implants and more ...I have this to say... A: I would have had a bilateral....with out reconstruction.. not because I was afraid, but because I wanted symetry... Which I DO NOT have, I do not mind my prothstesis at all and go with out alot..but then I'm lopsided....
B: now with every twitch of my breast I panic... waiting for the other shoe to drop....
Reconstruction can be done at a later date.. .give youself time and weigh all your options... my DH still supports what ever I decide...
good luck MB
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since we are all giving our 2 cents, here is mine
.I opted for bilateral and no reconstruction.
I am a worrier and I do not like grey areas. I know, I know, life is one big grey area --which is why I try to paint it black or white when I can.
I am the first (that we know of) in my family to get BC so I had no track record for survival/recurrence. I did NOT want to have 6 month follow ups for life (6 mammo, 6 mri and MRI is the only thing that picked up my ILC). I also did not want radiation. With a mastectomy, I could avoid radiation, so in my case this was a no-brainer for me.
I was a 34D and I did not want to schlep around a prosthesis/form that would match THAT size!!
I also did not want reconstruction because I simply wanted to heal and get on with my life. Even though my flat chest reminds me daily that I had breast cancer, I think having implants would have been, for me, more attention grabbing and a greater reminder. If I had an implant to match the other breast, I shudder to think how much saline I'd be hauling around
.I was also lucky that I married a man who was not boob-crazy. He frankly told me that being flatter made me look younger and less "matronly" as he put it ...
I had VERY sensitive, sexual nipples and I hugely miss them. Do I regret my decision...nope. Someone posted that they think lower libido and all of that comes with age, tamoxifen, other treatments and I wonder if that is the case. If I had a chance to keep my boob(s), would they "work" like they did before? Maybe not. They say "sex is between the ears" and when I worry and dwell on having had cancer, nothing makes me want it....so being rid of a source of worry (at least as much as can be), may actually have been a better option for myself.
Best to you with your decisions.
I agree that you can always have reconstruction. You can always opt to have a second surgery. If you opt for unilateral and find you are doing well, great. If not, you can always schedule the other to be removed. For myself, I just wanted the whole ordeal DONE with.
p.s. when they removed the other breast, it was in fact, perfectly healthy, just as the MRI showed. I still do not regret having it removed.
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AnneW,
You and I are running a similar path. I too had left breast IDC eight years ago, only to get an ILC in the other breast like you, on 9/16/07. It is a Stage 1, yadda yadda, So I was going to go with the lumpectomy, chemo and Rads same as with the IDC the other side 8 years ago. That was until I had an Mri of both breasts. Can we say "3 Primarys"? Now the studies indicate the radiation I had to prevent the recurrence on the IDC side may have been responsible for the "new" 1.2 cm grade 1 IDC cancer again in that originally diagnosed breast.
Still, better a brand new primary than recurrence for sure.
So, your worry about facing the cancer returning in the IDC side, is not unfounded, (as you say may never have happened), but in my experience ...it did. Now I am facing the same decision you made a step ahead of me. If I go thru with bilateral, I am not thinking of reconstruction.
How are you doing since your surgery, and was the adjustment extremely tramatic?
Glad I read your entry...
Grandma Wolf Aka Dakota
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Kathleen,
I wish I had made the decision for double mastectomies when I was first diagnosed. I have a strong family history of bc, so it would have made sense. I was later (12 yrs) diagnosed a second time, needed another mastectomy, chemo, radiation, thought I was finished with it (took Arimidex, Aromasin) but mets were diagnosed (liver and bone) almost 3 yrs later. I'll always wonder if I could have prevented this by having bi-lateral mastectomies with the first dx. I did have lymph nodes removed from both sides and now have the worry about lymphedema, although I've never had it. I do use my arms for blood pressure readings and have blood drawn from my hand, was recently hospitalized, and they used both arms for BP and blood draws. Made me crazy with worry, but still no problem has developed.
I had no interest in reconstruction so can't help you there. I wish you luck with your decision. It's a tough one.
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Lymphedema can occur at any time--my mom's didn't happen until 6 years post lumpectomy/rads/axillary node dissection. I would be very cautious about the BPs and blood draws from your arms---they can do either of those things from your legs as well.
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I'm a little late here - I interviewed two surgeons and they both suggested that I do a bilat. Good thing too, as the pathology from the "good" side came back precancerous. I did expander recon and now have gel implants - not so sure if I had to do it over again if I would have done implants. I am only 4 months out since my last surgery on the implants, so need to give it more time. Wishing you an easy surgery and easy recovery - but first peace with making your decision. all the best to you on the 13th. Karen
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I chose to have a bilateral mast. because my 4cm ILC had not shown up on any mamos, including the one I had just minutes before the ultrasound that clearly showed the tumor. So I knew that if I kept the "good" breast, I would always worry about what might be there that wasn't showing on the tests. And I hated the thought of having MRIs every 6 months. Too stressful for me! Anyway, the good breast was clean, but I have no regrets. I had immediate reconstruction with expanders and my swap is scheduled for Jan. 31. I'm glad I went with immediate recon. because for me I think it made the loss of the breasts less traumatic. But that is just me and as all the ladies will say, it is so very personal a decision. However I will also say that even with reconstruction, it was still traumatic to see the sutures from one end of the breast to the other, and the nipples gone! I don't regret any of my decisions. It's good that you're taking the time to really think it through so you will hopefully be comfortable with whatever decision you make.
Now, about the loss of sensation. I haven't seen any action in several months due to the fact that chemo made me feel rather fatigued (and unattractive to boot) but when I did have sex post-mast. I did find that I was more sensitive in other areas
. Maybe it was in my head but who cares, if it works, right?And about the lymph nodes: my MRI did not show positive nodes, but they did find 1mm micrometastesis in the sentinel node at the surgery.
Good luck with your decision, surgery, etc.
Donna
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