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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2007

    Today was THE single worst day I've had since dx. I had a big ol' snot fest - crying, cursing, screaming - all of it. All because someone asked for a ride to karate.



    Seems simple, but the ride request was AFTER another friend asked to borrow quite a large amount of $ (which I lent), AND I couldn't find my account information to transfer money online, AND I found out my uncle is upset with me because I won't spend $138 per ticket (multiply that by four for the full effect) to take him and my family to see Fantasia in "The Color Purple" this month (yeah, I know they're on strike) AND no one else in the family is available to go pick up my grandmother from the nursing home for Thanksgiving - which means I'll be traveling solo on the busiest travel day of the year (something I absolutely DREAD). It was just too much to deal with in the course of one day. The poor cat hid under the bed as I'm sure she thought I'd lost my mind. Glad no one else was home to witness it...



    I did feel better after I screamed and cried, though. Ever have one of those days?

  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited November 2007

    I'm sorry you're having such a stressful day. A nap usually helps me, but that doesn't sound like it will fit into your schedule. Can you get to bed early tonight and/or take some ME time?

  • caaclark
    caaclark Member Posts: 936
    edited November 2007
    It's the time of year for emotional meltdowns.  Family stress, holiday stress, too many things to do in too little time, not enought sleep,  etc.  I plan to drink more wine at around 5:00 each night.  I think that will help.Smile  Oh, and a nap is definitely a good idea if you can fit it in.
  • mke
    mke Member Posts: 584
    edited November 2007

    Oh dear, you had me chuckling with snot fest, and then giggling with the account information and finally laughing out loud with the family expectations.

    Dr. MKE's prescription - take the phone off the hook, pour a glass of wine, put on some comfy jammies and read some trashy book in bed.  Tomorrow is another day.

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited November 2007

    Felicia,


    Yes, I can relate!

    My family is in a snit, because I am not traveling up to see them during the Holidays.  I just moved from Maryland to North Carolina last year, and last year I didn't go back up to visit, because I had just moved here, and my MIL also moved here, and we were alone.  So, fast forward to NOW, a year later, and after my bc dx in March,  I have only seen 3 of my sisters for a few days... they actually came down to stay with me and help me, after my bi-lateral mast!  But, that is another story!  So, now they are all mad at me, since I have finished my treatments, and just had my reconst. surgery Nov. 7th, and have just now started taking Tamoxifen...  well, it's been a HELL of a year, and I just can't do it...  so I am staying home and not travelling back for the Holidays. 

    Maybe a nap WOULD be a nice idea! 

    Harley

  • 2up
    2up Member Posts: 1,358
    edited November 2007

    oh felicia!

    i can surely relate ........... i just had it out with my mom over christmas plans, my brother over my nephew's b'day on thursday, and my employer over a scheduling issue ........... it seems that NOBODY has a flipping clue that WE are tired and overwhelmed and overcome at times!

    like i have posted many, many times .......... "i have hair now, so 'it's' over as far as everyone else is concerned" .......... never to be spoken of again, never to be factored in to 'their' plans, never to (in my mothers words) screw up another holiday for 'everybody'.

    i am so exhausted trying to keep up their expectations that i cry myself to sleep most nights ............... "snotfest" says it all!  

    i'm not sure how much longer i can keep appearances up just to please, appease, and mollycoddle these people ........... avoiding being chastised and belittled by my "loved ones" has become truly physically and emtionally exhausting, to the point of screening phone calls, skipping sunday dinners, avoiding my nephews travel hockey games and sleeping a ridiculous amount of my life away in order to avoid yelling and/or crying it away!

    i am finding my "post treatment" life extremely difficult and trying ......... NOBODY and i mean NOBODY gets it ........... my dad actually told me today that "you've put your mother through enough with your illness, you'd think you could have taken christmas day off for HER, since cancer ruined your mother's last 2 holidays ........ and you KNOW how much christmas means to your mother"!!!!!!

    ................ ummm?  helloooo?  ........... and they wonder why i keep to myself?????????

    the point to my rant being ............ i feel your pain felicia, and i cry the same tears ............. i get it (as do we all here) ............. but no amount of napping seems to cure their "head in the sand" attitudes lol!

    i'm sorry you had a crappy day ............. i hope tomorrow is better.   

  • lexi4
    lexi4 Member Posts: 1,074
    edited November 2007

    Hey Felicia,

    Man, what a day! It sounds as if you are being pulled in many directions! Don't let anyone make you feel guilty when you say no to something. It can be really tough to not give in, but you have to do what is best for you. Your mental health is as important as your physical health. You have lots of healing physically and mentally still.

    I wish I could give you and your sniffly nose a big hug! Tomorrow will be a better day!

    Hugs,
    lexi

  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited November 2007

    Are you kidding? a good snot feast feels sooooo good.

    We all have them once in a while. Good for the soul.

    Bad days make the good days so much better!

    Janis

  • sahalie
    sahalie Member Posts: 2,147
    edited December 2007

    Great suggestions from everyone.

    I feel some days just like you experienced today and I wonder why doesn't anyone get that we stay fatigued and emotional after treatment is done not just during.

    Right now my legs both feel like they have 500 lbs weights strapped to them and I have no clue why. 

    I decided the other day that this Thanksgiving (yep it's here in my home) that it's Simple all the way.  Basic dishes to eat and a small turkey, just enough for each to have a serving.  No before dinner food either.  And they can bring the wine. 

    I went to Whole Foods and bought the basics plus the pumpkin pie. 

    Felicia, I hope you just stand your ground.  Delegate others to do as much as possible.  Good luck with the rest of the week.

  • Brendatrue
    Brendatrue Member Posts: 1,830
    edited November 2007

    Sometimes I get so tense and wound up that I wish I could cry buckets! And I usually feel calmer and more relaxed when I cry; then I can think more clearly, or, if I am tired of thinking, rest more soundly.

    I can relate to many of the comments above, like wondering when or if others are ever going to understand that the 'cancer journey' does not end when aggressive treatment ends, or that I will not return to the 'old normal me' that can manage as much as I once did.  I also have learned from my experiences with cancer that my life is as precious as others' lives, that I have the duty to myself to set limits on others' expectations of me, and that I have the duty to myself to set limits on MY expectations of me.

    I hope you all find some peace and comfort over the holiday.

    Brenda

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited November 2007

    Yep Felicia ... I'm right there with you!!!  I actually stopped working today at 4:00 p.m. (I work from home and usually work 7 days and any hours), and laid down on the couch with Dr. Phil and my 3 dogs. 30 minutes later, with drool running down my chin, the phone rang, and I was so startled, I had no idea what had happened.  WTH ... grabbed a cup of coffee and went back to work.  But, that 30 minute zone-out was great!

    I just decided to "check out" today from my stress.  It always seems that we bc gals are the "tough" ones in our families, and the glue that holds the gang together.  It's a good thing we can come here when we need somebody to hold us up. 

    love to you Felicia,

    Brenda in VA

  • snowyday
    snowyday Member Posts: 1,478
    edited November 2007

    Hi Felicia:  I had the same thing on Sunday just broke down sobbing crying, snotting, and my cats hid under the bed. I really wonder what they think some days.  Mine was preceded by losing yet another thing this time my bank card.  I know it's not a real problem but just having to go to the bank AGAIN for another card and just the chemo brain and forgetting things.  I felt better after my meltdown and I'm so glad no one was around for it.  It's always the little things that get me finally, it's the build up of things. I really hope you feel better now though.  Thanksgiving as well, thats a big one.  The whole holiday season coming up I can't even think of it. And I really hate that everyone thinks the last treatment is over and I'm miraculously going to be myself again, my legs feel really heavy as well and I really notice it after walking a flight of steps.  My sister is having a surprise birthday party for me this weekend and my son and his fiance are coming down 1300 miles and I still feel so tired and I look awful and I can't even keep makeup on because my eyes tear up and then the nose starts running its' nuts.  I'm so happy I found this site, I thank god for each and every one of the women on it and I am so grateful for it.  Happy Thanksgiving every one enjoy your turkey and take it as easy on yourselves as possible.  Gee I'm turning into a real ebabbler I'm usually so private.

  • moogie
    moogie Member Posts: 499
    edited November 2007

    Sounds like a lot of people are asking way too much of you!!!! Maybe the snot fest is saying: ENOUGH ALREADY FOLKS!!! WORK IT OUT AMONGST YOURSELVES!!!!

    Take care of yourself and your grandma...and let the rest sort out their own issues..........I used to do a lot at the holidays, and was the lone sibling dealing with my mother for years while the other 2 floated thru without a care in the world. Then I moved away. Far away. Now the other 2 have to actually do some of the stuff I was doing for years...and are none too happy about it. Sometimes by being too accomodating, we prevent other people from learning to step up to the plate!!! Take care, Have a nice slice of pie....and remember YOU DESERVE IT!!!

    Moogie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2007

    Thanks everyone!



    I do feel better, but I'm also coming to a realization: people will treat us as badly as we let them. By being the "go-to gal" for so long, I've conditioned everyone to expect me to do it all. I just have to learn the heck to say NO - and mean it - without the guilt.



    I didn't take the friend to karate tonight (glad I didn't as her daughter had an issue in class and whined about it ad nauseum; I would have been TRAPPED in my own car with that crap had they ridden with me). I think the thing that sent me over the edge was the reason she wanted the ride: she was tired because she'd had a long week (umm....it's TUESDAY) and didn't feel like driving. HELLO! I'm freaking tired, too! I don't get how folks, well, don't get that...



    Too late for wine, but looking forward to tomorrow being another day. Love you guys - and happy Turkey Day :o)

  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited November 2007

    Hey there Felicia!

    We are ALL entitled to those days.

    And we are also entitled to tell our relatives that there is a vacancy in the go-to-gal department because you quit!

    I hope tomorrow is better!

    Love

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited November 2007

    I had my surgery Oct 4, 5 years ago.  Two weeks later I was taking over for my husband's office mgr. because she had a heart attack.

    I was supposed to learn all the billing, appts, filing, letters, you name it.

    I did my best but was exhausted.  Then the holidays. Daughter (can you believe it)asked that I delay chemo so as not to bring down her vacation over Christmas.  WTF!

    DH simply forgot I had bc.  He was off in his little world worring about the office and billing.  Screw that , I finally had a meltdown and said he'd have to hire someone.  I'd ans the phone and make appts. and that was IT.

    No one, and I mean no one either helped with Christmas dinner or even mentioned my dx thru the holidays.  I was the only one at our family prayer to thank god that I was doing well and did't have to take chemo.

    That sort of thing will never happen again! 

    I really got mad and told them off about 4 months later and felt so much better for it. (of course the wine helped)

    Supermom is no more, I got rid of her that Christmas.  If it gets done it will be done by all.  Or not at all.

    We're going away together this year, so no one has to cook or put away all the decorations.

    Yipppeeeee!

  • sahalie
    sahalie Member Posts: 2,147
    edited December 2007

    Good for you Dottie.  I wish you a wonderful time this season being somewhere where you can relax.

    It sure is mind boggling how clueless people and even family can be as we go thru a life and death situation.

  • Cate2
    Cate2 Member Posts: 20
    edited November 2007

    Hello all. 

    Felicia, you sure did hit a cord with everybody.  We've all hit that meltdown point and can relate.  I know if I hear one more time that "I'm getting to be more like my old self" and can I just handle this, this and this, I may just explode--Yes, yes, ok fine old self sure--now tell me where my car keys are, what I did with my notes on the important project for today's meeting, or why I came into this room to begin with Smile.  They have no concept of what you have to deal with.  You know it's funny how many of us define ourselves the go-to-people, the problem solvers etc.   Now I find that I have to simply walk away from some things (and sometimes find a private place to go scream etc.).  Like Iodine said it has to be done by all or not at all-great line.  I am so glad that we have each other to share these thoughts and experiences with so that we can rest assured that we are not alone and not losing our minds.  Felicia, hope today is a better day-do we need to tell the cat that it is ok to come out?

    Take Care Everyone

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2007

    Wine....I need more wine!

  • omyoga
    omyoga Member Posts: 12
    edited November 2007

    Perhaps it is the stress and responsibility of being the go-to gals that has caused the cancer ?

    omyoga

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited November 2007

    Hi Omyoga ... Pretty sure stress didn't cause my cancer.  That would imply that I had some control over whether or not I got this disease and that I somehow caused it because I couldn't control my stress.  And if that were true, then I could cure it too! 

    Nope, I'm just a strong woman, full of commonsense (which my family values), who gets stressed with all of lifes ups and downs, exacerbated by only being 4 months out of treatment. 

    I did not appreciate cancer until I got it.  I don't think anybody really does.  Not even those closest to us.  My experience has been that the dance was going along just fine the way it was for everyone at the party until I got sick.  Nobody had to think about the party ending or that we might have to learn a new dance.

    Those closest to me took their cue on how to react from me.  When I was strong, which was most of the time, they were strong, when I said I was scared, they could admit their fears. I wish I would have asked for more help, cried more openly, dropped the tough girl facade, and shared my feelings more openly.  

    And maybe a little yoga mighta helped too.  Smile

    Love,

    Brenda in VA  

  • debkc
    debkc Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2007

    I am so happy that I found this thread....I feel we are all so tired of the mask we wear to our loved ones, friends, and co-workers that sometimes the only thing you can do is have a snot fest meltdown.  I myself have had several in the last two weeks.  The only one in my circle that seems to realize how serious I am is my dear partner.  I work retail and have found a "friend" or so I thought in my assistant manager.  Over the last two weeks life has gone downhill and fast.  First, my partner in the hospital with what was originally thought of as heart problems....but now they are leaning more towards lupus.  Then we come home one night, and our house is broken into....everything trashed or stolen (fur kids all ok and accounted for)....then, after working 65-70 hour weeks my onc asks me to cut back and my manager has a freakout, so against my onc's wishes, don't cut back....now I have shingles and no one can understand why my onc has taken me off work for the next week....duh!!!! my assistant says we all have stuff that happens to us and we just have to put it in our past (I really don't think any of us can put cancer in a little neatly wrapped package in our past...it just doesn't seem to me to be something that gets thrown back like other things like my divorce, my parents dying, etc, that I have found a way to put back).  I have 20 year old employees that come in crying that they were just in an arguement with their boyfriend and they don't think they can work.  I have another employee that is 19 and has something wrong every second of everyday and can't afford to go to the doctor....but can afford not to come to work when scheduled.  One of my rules is that you always need to be out-running me....I don't complain at all about the pain I'm in, but since I don't talk about it, I must not be in any pain......whatever! 

    that felt really good to get out.   I'm not going to allow myself to feel guilty about taking care of me...none of us should.....we didn't make it this far to let the stresses of work and others expectations kill us.  Bring on the wine, the jammies, some great movies and party hardy!!!!  Here's to my first black friday off in 15 years!   (Yes, i even worked the black friday during chemo.)  This Thanksgiving is all about me....and my family that I've built within my house,  my partner and our pets.

    Many blessings to you all this holiday!  Debkc

  • my3girls
    my3girls Member Posts: 3,766
    edited November 2007

    Go Deb!!! I loved what you said!! I think you hit soft spots with all of us...how we can all  relate!!

    Enjoy your ALL ABOUT ME Thanksgiving!! You go girl!!

    Blessings to all!

    xoxox

    Lisa

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2007

    Felicia aka Go to Gal,

    I think most of know how you feel, no matter what has transpired between us, I wish you a better day tomorrow and stay safe in the traffic. It's quite hard to shoulder a ton of responsibility especially when other people count on you to bear their load.  Each of us has enough on our plate as it is. Peace GTG.

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited November 2007

    After I got over being angry at my family for not "caring" enough about me, I figured something out:

    I kept up the mask of everything's ok, I was screaming for help and caring, but since I'd never learned to say it outloud, no one heard me. 

    I promised my daughter and son that I would NEVER do that again.  They now know everything going on with our health.  My dh had 2 different cancers last year.  He's doing ok now, but the kids knew every step of the way what was actually happening.  Even when I was have a rough time with dh when he was in the hosp. and being an ass, my daughter knew it all.  It was great to have someone to vent to, and she understood --- because I was honest about needing help and she gave it.

    Please, drop the masks and ask for what you need, Outloud.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited November 2007

    Snotfests are good for the soul.  Better to let it out than bottle it up.  Keeping it under wraps is like trying to keep a beach ball submerged under water.  There's better ways to spend our precious little energy. 

    <>debkc, shingles can be very serious.  Take good care of yourself. I had a case also, but they passed quickly.  Hope yours do too.  Happy Thanksgiving everyone.   

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2007

    Ok - last night (Thanksgiving eve) - after dealing with the holiday traffic/grandma for five hours and battling a sinus headache, I walk in the door to find H2B happily preparing stuff for tomorrow (he cooks everything on Thanksgiving and Christmas, which is totally cool with me). I hurt my hamstring on Monday at the gym (trying to hurry up and finish so I could get to work) and innocently asked him if he could massage it for me before we went to bed. He got really quite then barely said "sure."



    Later he told me he was upset that I didn't seem to realize he'd been on his feet in the kitchen for the last six hours. Mind you, massaging a hamstring - which he does for his athletes every day as he is a track coach - takes about three minutes. He cooks maybe five times a year, which means the other 360 days I handle dinner (cook it or decide where we'll eat) AND every breakfast and lunch we eat here! I remember dragging laundry baskets to the washing machine the day I got home from my mastectomies because nobody had thought to do laundry while I was in the hospital and he was almost out of underwear. How come all that gets forgotten the second he has to work hard around the house?!? GRRRRR!!!!



    This is the other part of what keeps me feeling like I'm a half-step away from a nervous breakdown: I give and give until I'm blue in the face and the second I do finally ask for help, I get treated like it's too much of a freaking hassle! WTH?!?!



    More wine, please!

  • omyoga
    omyoga Member Posts: 12
    edited November 2007

    Dear BinVA

    No, no, no !  We are not responsible for our cancer !!!  Some people have long-term stress in their lives through no fault of their own - special needs children, bad teenagers, asshole husbands, job insecurity.  Some of us cope just fine, some get ulcers, some get depressed, some get high blood pressure, and over a long period of time some get cancer.  We certainly have no control over our DNA or how our body responds to stress.

    One book was so specific about stress and breast cancer that it claimed left breast cancer was due to stress with our children and right breast cancer was due to stress with our husbands.

    One thing I have noticed is that women with breast cancer are superwomen and that is one reason why they are superstressed.  It is in our natures to be organizers, achievers and we take on too much.

    I am at work so may be abrupt at times - today is a snow day and it is very slow.

    omyoga

  • Bliz
    Bliz Member Posts: 507
    edited November 2007

    Something I am learning through this is we have to put ourselves first.  Many of us were the "go-to" and the "handler of all situations". 

    The last thing my surgeon said to me before the lupectomny was that I had to think of myself first now.  That has helped.  Also to simplify as another poster has mentioned. 

    I am guessing that many of us had that internal cop that kept telling us what we should do in life instead of what was best for us and our health.  Time to retire the cop.

    For insurance purposes I did not tell people.  That has been a mixed blessing.  I enjoyed the peace in many ways but of course did not get the understanding that might have helped. 

    When family or friends or co-workers are obsessing about something really stupid, I want to scream, "I have cancer, damn-it".  "Back off!"

    I am finding a way to just be protective and tell them to go somewhere else with the drama and demands.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited November 2007

    Felicia, I hear your pain.  Back when I was married, kitchen duty was a huge area for conflict.  My ex would fix a meal every few months and somehow that puffed up to doing his fair share of the kitchen responsibility.  Hello!  Last time I looked, people not only eat every day, we eat multiple times daily! 

    It makes me think of that scene from Alice in Wonderland, the one where the cake made her grow, and the drink made her shrink (or was it the other way around?).  Anyway, I felt like he would point to the few meals he made and eat the cake to puff it way out of proportion.  When it came to my role, everything I did seemed subject to the drink, which made it all shrink.  Methinks the women's movement from the 60s has a lot of unfinished business to complete.   

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