OT -- allergies to cat hair and other things

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althea
althea Member Posts: 1,595

If a person is allergic to cat hair, wouldn't that same person also be allergic to dust?  

I'm asking because I busted buns last month to get my house the cleanest it's been for a very long time, and I'm sort of a neatnik on my worst days.  I vacuumed this house from top to bottom.  I also have a long haired cat. 

I was taken aback by my sister-in-law who was here visiting.  My cat is very shy when people are around, and she made a very brief appearance while we were eating dinner last night.  After dinner my sister-in-law claimed she had to step outside for some fresh air because her allergies to cats were kicking in.  She didn't touch the cat, the cat didn't touch her.   Then she coughed a couple of times in the living room and basically said she had to leave because of her allergies. 

Family visits are very infrequent.  I went to visit this same sil and my brother last year.  It was the first time I've visited them on their turf in almost 20 years, which is the amount of time they've lived in their current house.  I was very uncomfortable in their house because quite frankly, it's filthy.  They have dust that takes years to accomplish.  They have mice in their kitchen.  There were mouse traps in every corner of the kitchen, and in the living room where I slept on their hideabed.  Mold covered their bathroom ceiling.  I'll admit that I can be over the top when I get in the mood for cleanliness, but I also have extended periods of being a slouch, so I really don't think I'm easily offended when it comes to housekeeping.  Their house, however, offended my sensibilities!  

I want to hear from people with allergies because I'd like to be persuaded that my sil really was suffering from allergies.  The way I feel right now is not that.  I cannot fathom that anyone who is that sensitive to cat hair could possibly live in a house filled with dust, mold, and mice.  Reality check please!  I'm sort of fuming over a number of things she did last weekend, and I'm feeling like she was passive aggressively trying to spend as little time around me as possible.  Please weigh in with cat hair allergies experience.  If there's a chance the sil was being genuine about her discomfort, I need y'all to convince me.  

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  • Emelee26
    Emelee26 Member Posts: 569
    edited November 2007

    I am extremely extremely allergic to dust..but not cats..my friend is extremely allergic to cats but nothing else...she is actually the ONLY person I have ever met that is truly allergic to cats - everyone else just says they are but I've never seen them have any reaction.  It's funny because we just moved and my cat allergic friend had no problem which is pretty weird so maybe it was dust too?

    BTW, my cat allergic friend does not even have to have the cats in the same room and she starts sneezing and sniffling..and they are short haired and do not shed much...how was your SIL reaction? Coughing doesn't typically signify allergies without the other more common symptoms like itchy, sneezy, runny nose, watery eyes - basically it would be very clear if it was an allergy attack..hopefully she's right and not just passive aggressive :)

    Love Marisa

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  • JoanofArdmore
    JoanofArdmore Member Posts: 1,012
    edited November 2007

    Hi Althea,

    I can throw some light on this.People have allergies to different things.All allergies do not kick in because a person is allergic to one, or two things.

    You could be allergic to grass but not to tree pollen.You could be allergic to peanuts but not to tree nuts.

    You could be allergic to cats but not to dust.

    I'm allergic to cats, and so I believe your SIL.Because I know that cat allergy doesnt affect me dramatically, like a ton of bricks.Especially in a clean house.(If the house is dirty and full of cat hair, all bets are off.THEN the sneezing& itching start right away!)

    I have cat-sat for various friends.The clean guy vaccuums daily.I can stay and play with his cats for a bit.When I sneeze, it's bye-bye time.

    The less good housekeeper..I start sneezing right away.Her cat gets food, water, a swipe at the litterbox, goodby.

    Your house was very clean, so free of cat hair.There are ALWAYS residual allergens, though.Cat allergy is actually being allergic to cat saliva.Since they spit on themselves (groom) constantly, their fur is covered w/saliva, which dries and turns into dander--tiny particles which drop off all over.No getting away from it!

    And myself (and your SIL, it looks like,) after being in the cleanest home, I will sneeze a little.I take care NEVER to rub my eyes or there IS trouble.But just gently sneezing, or a cough --these are products of my throat and nasal passages starting to get swollen, my eyes and ears starting to itch.Yep, time to go.Before the real sneezing, eye-tearig, coughing tongue-itching start.After this stage, BTW, I get my lungs starting to get congested, which will go into asthma if I dont leave.I know because my kids and I went to a friend's mountain house.After 2 days, I was ready for ER!

    Please dont take insult.I do not think your SIL was being mean!

  • Jaybird627
    Jaybird627 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited November 2007

    Althea, I'm extremely allergic to cats (asthma) but can handle dust. Sure I sneeze with dust (occasionally) but cats (even if they're not around and I 'only' sit where they've been) can send me to the hospital. I'm not sure what your sil's allergies are but believe me I make sure I'm no where near a cat if I'm no where near a hospital! BTW, I'm not allergic to dogs. I once had a friend who wasn't allergic to cats but was to dogs. Go figure. I'd say your sil is making excuses but then I don't know her but would give her the benefit of the doubt based on my experiences.

  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited November 2007

    Hi, Althea.  I'm allergic to some cats...although not all.  Even though I'm asthmatic, dust doesn't always bother me...depends.  Obviously, not...or I'd be dead after the last year of doing nothing in my house.

    Also, it's not the hair people are allergic to, and besides the saliva, it's also the dander, which is flakes of the skin.  You could vacuum 50 times before she came over and it might still bother your sister-in-law.  It takes about 6 months of a cat-free house and constant cleaning to get rid of the dander.  I learned this after ending up in the emergency room due to being allergic to a dog that had visited a spotless house one time 4 weeks PRIOR to my visit.  This is what they told me in the emergency room.  It doesn't help to put the animal in another room, etc.

    Same is true with smoking.  If someone has smoked in a home, I'll get asthma, even if there isn't active smoking going on.  Same principle.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited November 2007

    Thank you everyone for chiming in on this.  I am still undecided whether the sil really has allergies to cats.  All I know is she was the last to arrive at my house and the first to leave. 

    In addition, she chose not to include herself and her daughter on the Saturday excursion to the beach.  The window of time available for it was a bit tight, and the reasons she cited were needing time to return to my Mom's house to get swimsuits and not wanting to feel rushed.  She opted to visit the beach the next day with my niece and didn't invite anyone else to go with them.  On the morning of their last day here, I was in the car with my Mom, the sil and the niece.  My Mom is hard of hearing and the niece has an exceptionally meek voice.  The configuration started out with my Mom driving, sil in front, niece in back.  As I take over the driving duty and Mom is heading for the back seat, sil leaps out of the front and insists that my Mom sit in front.  By this time I'm thinking, my gosh, this woman can't even stand to sit in the front seat with me for a 15 minute ride.  Or, did she not want my Mom to sit in the back seat with her only granddaughter?  

    I feel like I'm in a persona non grata club.  I have witnessed this behavior between her and other family members.  For 20+ years I have believed that she and I got along fine with each other.  Boy am I ever slow at figuring things out!  It's sort of like a chinese water torture.  At what point does it change from being a steady drip of water on the forehead to being torture?  There probably isn't a tangible threshhold.  It's only possible to assess with some considerable hindsight and the realization that the stream has been steady for a long time. 

    I compare how she behaves towards the family members who get the 'minimal toleration, if that' treatment.  I now realize she treats me the same way.  I am grieving the loss of the relationship that I thought I had with her.  By the time I work all the way through this, I doubt I will feel any sort of loss in the future if she leaves the planet, or if she and my brother were to get divorced.  I feel sad that she's so frosty to me.  I haven't done anything to deserve it.  While my effort in the relationship with her isn't voluminous, I can at least think of many examples.  When I try to think of examples of effort she has put forward into a relationship with me, I can think of two things.  Two pieces of effort in 20+ years, and I'm not even sure those two examples would hold up to much scrutiny.  So, at long last, I can take a hint.  If frosty is how she wants things, I can be at peace with that.  If there's one thing I learned from surviving cancer and its treatments, it's knowing the importance of keeping toxic people at arm's length.  Guess this thread took a big detour from allergies to cathair!

  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited November 2007

    It sounds like she doesn't deserve the effort you've put into it and so be it.  Some people are just difficult.  It does sound like she's hurt you and that's not right.  What is your relationship like with your brother?

    Her house sounds horrendous.  It actually made me feel good about mine.  If you cool things from your end, there's no reason to have to go back there.  So that's a positive.

    I know it's not good having ill feelings in families, but it sounds like you've done everything you can to avoid it.  Try not to let her upset you any more than she already has.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited November 2007

    Thank you patrice.  I've always been of the mind that family is worth effort, even if you find them difficult or unlikeable.  In fact, the nephew who was here for the birthday falls into that category.  It's hard for me to admit I have a nephew I find difficult to like, but that's how it is. 

    And it's because of this nephew that I finally had my moment of clarity.  I was noticing how frosty my sil is toward the nephew last year during a visit.  On Saturday, my nephew and I opened the door when sil and niece arrived.  The niece walked into the house and didn't even say hello, look at or acknowledge her cousin.  I don't have kids, so I don't know what typical behavior is.  She's 12, almost 13, and very quiet and shy.  I'll give the niece the benefit of a doubt.  My jaw was near to the floor.  My nephew said something like, well hello to you too.  

    My sil came in next, and I'm not sure she said hello to the nephew either.  I was still reeling from the niece totally dissing her cousin.  That moment became the catalyst for me to see things clearly for the first time.  I saw how my sil treats people in the 'persona non grata club'.  That part has been going on for years.  It wasn't until this last weekend that I realized I was in the club too.  I just didn't know it any sooner.  

    My relationship with my brother is pretty good.  Especially during treatments, he was a big source of encouragement and support for me.  When I visited them last year, I have to admit that the relationship suffered as a result.  My other brother got divorced, but I am still continuing my relationship with his exwife.  There was friction between those families for years.  When the divorce happened, my sil frosted out her ex-sil with no time wasted, and my brother was on board with it.  Because the frostiness had come into the open, I was beginning to take more notice.   My brother isn't frosty to me, but he has been toward my brother as a result of a tiff from 4 years ago.

    I remember as I was visiting last year, I was observing a phone cord which started in the kitchen.  The cord stretched up one doorway, across the wall by the stove, and through the doorway to the dining room.   That cord literally had a half inch of dusty, fuzzy grime hanging from it!  My first impression as I saw it was, it would take YEARS to accumulate that much dust!  Since it's above the stove, perhaps it took less time.  But BECAUSE it's above the stove, I just can't fathom how someone can stand to cook underneath that kind of grime.  It's way beyond clutter.  Their house is filthy.  In my book, there's a difference.  Just clutter is bad for our health.  Filth is even worse.  Ok, I feel better now.  I'm done ranting now. 

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  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited November 2007

    I'm allergic to cats. A closed up house with a cat in it will get my eyes to watering. But I'm also allergic to dust. But the dust has to be flying around in the hair. Dust that's undisturbed doesn't bother me.

    With the weather cooling off I'm on the lookout for mice. Someplace under our house they get in and in prior years I've had an encounter. I stuffed anyplace I saw up and haven't seen any more, but this time of year I tend to start scanning the floorboards for those little moving brown things.

    That said, if I see one I go all out to find where they got in and get rid of them! 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2007

    Some people can have severe allergies.  Lots of people get allergic reactions to peanuts, if they have been in the same room.  So the cat allergy could be realistic.

    But on the other hand sounds like SIL is being a little mean too.  BTW - the house sounded disgusting.

    Nicki

  • myrenewal
    myrenewal Member Posts: 203
    edited November 2007

    Hi - my daughter cannot even touch our cat when she comes over to visit - she immediately begins to sneeze and get congested (and unfortunately the cat loves her and wants to be around her).  Nothing else really seems to bother her, allergy-wise.

  • djd
    djd Member Posts: 866
    edited November 2007

    I grew up with zero allergies (except penicillin) and then started developing allergies in my mid-20's.

    I am allergic to ONE cat - my guy Simon - and I have to wash everything he sleeps on weekly and give him baths every few weeks to keep my allergies under control.

    I also am VERY allergic to perfumes and strong scents now.  I never was before, but now if someone walks into the room wearing perfume, I get an instant headache and my throat starts closing up.  I have to leave the room immediately.

    It's very hard to understand if you haven't had that sensation before -- my mom still argues with me when I refuse to step into a candle store, because she has no idea what it does to me.

    I'd cut your SIL some slack.

    jmo

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