Just Diagnosed
I'm new and need... well, everything.
I was just diagnosed with infiltrating ductal carcinoma, high grade today. My doctor thinks it's early - stage 1 or 2 - and that the prognosis is good. I have a bone scan, ct scan, and chest xray scheduled for 11/9, and a lumpectomy and sentinal node biopsy scheduled for 11/16.
I'm freaking out, alternating between panic and numbness. I'm 40, been married 3 1/2 years, and we just adopted a 5 year old little girl 8 months ago. I WANT TO LIVE and I'm scared I won't. I don't know what's coming or what to do. Do you have any advice?
Thanks,
Judy
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Hi Judy, First, take a deep breath!
Congrats on the good prognosis and it sounds that way to me as well.
Sorry you had to find us, but so glad you did. You will find we will be with you all the way thru this if you like. We have truly been there and done that. Heck, we even MADE the dang t-shirts!
Please know this is NOT your mother's or even your grandmother's breast cancer. I'm 5 years out from diagnosis and doing well, you are at the hardest part---the beginning, the out of control part.
You are going to LIVE, please re read that a few times. There are millions of us out there living after a breast cancer diagnosis. Honest.
We know that feeling of fear of leaving our family and kids, I remember it well, but please know , you will be ok.
Please come here often and let us help you thru this.
Hugs
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Thanks, Dotti. I'm glad I found this board. I have so many questions. What suggestions can you give to get through this? What can I expect from chemo and radiation? Will I be able to care for my daughter during chemo and rad?
I feel that I have this ALIEN growing in my breast, and I'm terrified that it's going to invade my whole body before the lumpectomy. My chest is tight and I can't sleep or think. Is this normal?
Hubby's being wonderful, but I can tell he's stressed out. What support is there for him? Are there videos or books that will help us tell my daughter?
-- Judy
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Hi Judy,
Dotti is right -- you are at the hardest part of your diagnosis. It is so difficult getting your mind around the fact that you have breast cancer. You will get through it -- I was determined not to let the breast cancer ruin my spirit -- for me, the answer was using my sense of humor to find funny things along the way. This has worked for me.
I'm 46 and have IDC, no lymh node involvement, and have had a mastectomy (and am in the middle of reconstruction) and am in the middle of chemo. My last chemo is tomorrow -- YIPPEE!
Breast cancer has taught me that I am a lot stronger than I ever thought I was. With each step, I think that I won't be able to get through it -- but I do and I find that the worry over things is worse than what actually is. I thought I'd be devastated at losing my breast -- I wasn't because my breast doesn't define me. I thought having no hair would be devastating -- it wasn't, either. Of course, I would rather still have my hair.
You will get through this -- this is a great place to find comfort. We've all been there! Also, take a moment to look up Caringbridge -- it is a free service where you can post your journey with cancer and others can log on to see how you are doing. That way, you don't have to answer the phone constantly.
Do you know what type of cancer you have?
You are in my thoughts.
Laurie
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Hi Judy,
I was just diagnosed on Sept. 5th and just had a double mastectomy on Halloween. I am blessed, as you are, with a great husband but like your husband he is stressed. I bought him a book called "Breast Cancer Husband" by Marc Silver. My husband is NOT a reader but he has been reading this book and says that it has helped him a lot.
You are going to live! It sounds like your doctors are on top of things. Make sure you take someone with you to your appointments. If you don't have someone to go with you bring a tape recorder to record the visit. I know this may sound silly, but trust me there will be some visits that you just don't hear everything. It is good to have a back up at those times. It also might be a good idea to get a notebook to keep everything in. Ask your doctor for copies of ALL your test results and keep them in there. Just remember to ask questions of your doctors and of us. Also remember there are NO dumb questions right now. If you have a question it deserves an answer.
If you need us we are here. I will keep you in my prayers. Keep us posted.
God Bless,
Jenny
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Judy,
This is the worst time. Once you get more information and a game plan you will feel much better.
I stumbled on your post and noticed we have a few things in common. I was also 40 when diagnosed (coming up on 2 years now), high grade, stage IIb or IIIa(I'm sort of between stages). Anyway, your age jumped out at me as well as the fact that you recently adopted your daughter. We have a 6 year old daughter who was adopted from China. When first diagnosed I remember thinking that she has already lost one mother and now she could lose me. I say that not because that is what will happen but because I remember the fear of that.
As for your other questions: The chemo and radiation were not nearly as bad as I thought they would be. Everyone reacts differently but I really felt ok more times than not. The anti-nausea drugs they have now work very well.
You really will get through this. Keep asking questions. This board is a very supportive place.
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Judy,
One more thing...yes, it is normal that your chest feels tight. It is stress. Immediatately following my diagnosis my stomach began hurting. I assumed that cancer had metastisized to my liver. I even went to my daughter's school and had the nurse feel my liver! As soon as I woke up after the lumpectomy the stomach pain was completely gone. I also had this incredible feeling of relief once surgery was over. Our bodies do amazing things when we are stressed. If you continue to feel anxiety don't be afraid to ask your doc for anti-anxiety meds. I did not do that but I wish I had thought to do it. It would have helped so much before surgery.
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Thank you all! You are so supportive - I feel better everytime I get an e-mail from this thread.
Jenny - I ordered the book you suggested, as well as some others.
Laurie - I have IDC, high grade, the doctor thinks it's stage 1 or 2, but of course can't be sure until the lumpectomy and sentinel node disection.
Carol - Thank you, THANK YOU for sharing. Our daughter is also adopted from China, and I'm having the same feelings - she's lost a birth mother, her nannies (whom she still remembers), and now I'm sick. She's only been home 8 months (came through the waiting child program, SN = repaired heart defect), and she already senses something is going on. We tried telling her last night in the hopes that we'd calm some of her fears, but I'm not sure she took it in. On top of the 'losing another mother' syndrome, she also has a huge fear of doctors (Chinese medicine will do that to you.) - so the mention that I'd have surgery was rather upsetting. Do you have any suggestions for telling her and easing her fears? How much care will I be able to give her through all of this?
This is going to sound strange, but what do we do about Thanksgiving? That's what I'm obsessing over right now. My hubby's whole family was planning on coming (11 total for dinner, most kids), but it was going to be a potluck affair at our house. I'll be one week after lumpectomy, do you think I'll be up for company? I know that sounds strange to ask when there's so much else to think about, but it's what I'm obsessing on this morning, I guess because it's something solid and concrete that I CAN decide now when all else is in flux.
I can't believe I'm even writing these words (IDC, stage 1 or 2, chemo) with any degree of familiarity. While I was waiting for the biopsy to come back, none of these words made sense and all sounded scary. It's amazing how quickly things change.
-- Judy
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Hi Judy - so sorry to hear of your dx.
I was diagnosed in March at the age of 39. It is truly devastating and all you think about are your children and how they don't deserve this! I have a 6 and 10 year old. It does get better, but I do still worry about them losing me.
I just finished chemo last week and will start radiation in 2 weeks. Not fun, but definitely not as bad as I imagined. I never got sick and never ended up in bed all day or anything. If I wasn't bald, I bet my kids would have forgotten that anything is wrong as for the most part I have been myself.
I had a mastectomy and was surprised at how quickly I recovered from the surgery. I took 3 weeks off of work, but was really ready to go back after 2 - I just had too many dr. appts! I don't know if a lumpectomy would be easier than that. Is there somewhere else you could have Thanksgiving? I think you will probably be ok to join in the festivities, but I wouldn't have had it at my house. Even with everyone pitching in on the food, I would still have been obsessing about cleaning, etc. If you are the type that wouldn't worry about that and would let everyone else take charge, then go for it, but only if you can concretely say you are not going to do anything. A week after surgery you should still be taking it easy and you will still tire easily.
Best of luck to you. Let us know how you are doing!
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Hi Judy, I was 33 with a 6 week old baby when I was diagnosed, that baby turns 18 next month and I am still happy and healthy. A book that I found helped me was "You can heal your life" written by Louise L Hay it is about positive affirmations, believing you can beat this disease, believe that once it is out of you and you have had the required treatments, be it what they are, the cancer will be gone and you might even find your life will be enriched by the experience, I know right now that seems hard to believe, but having had cancer and surviving gives one a different perspective on life. Also once you know the oncs game plan it is then you take control in beating this disease, you will be amazed at what strength you have. Just make sure if you're going to have to do chemo and rads that you have support for bubby as you get very tired, both physically and emotionally. But it is all doable, and you have a loving husband and daughter to be your reason to beat it. Hugs and prayers your way, let me know if you need extra support and I will give you my e_mail addy, also the chat room is a great place to talk with others.
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Hi to all of you,
I am just broken. My mum was diagnosed with BC, grade one, not sure about the stage, but the tumor is 2cm, ER/PR positive. She will go for mastectomy on 23, november. I am so scared, lost my sleep and can't find strenth and courage to face this. Mum is 52, exactly the same age her mother was diagnosed with BC 15 year ago. She survived for 7 years and my fear is that mum's cancer is just as bad. On top of this I believe that my time is coming as well, I am 34 and with this family history I feel that I will soon have to fight this dissease.
Please give me some encoragement and more info.
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tanya---breast cancer treatment has changed a great deal in the last 15 years, there are LOTS more options, so you mom's bc/prognosis is a whole different story than your grandmother's was. I also have family history (mggm had bc, mgm had colon ca, mom has had both bc and colon ca, I was dagnosed with LCIS 4 years ago). They say to look at the daughter 10 to 12 years before the age of the mother's bc, which would put you at age 40, the recommended age to begin screenings (my mom was 57, I was 46 when diagnosed), but I would encourage you to ask to begin screening mammos earlier due to your family's history. My gyn had me go for a baseline mammogram at age 34, then every 2 years after that until 38, then yearly since.
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Hi Judy..
Gosh, what an awful time you are going through right now. It sucks...in every way that it could. I HATE FREAKIN cancer.
I think it's normal that you are thinking ahead to Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is a big deal! And cancer gets in the way of everything. With that said...I think you will be fine to have dinner with your family. Just somewhere else. GREAT reason to go trash someone elses house. And think! No one will want you to help with the dishes!
(there HAS to be a bright side to everything, right?)
Please let us know how you are doing. Everyone here cares. And everyone understands.
Lisa
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thanks for your reply awb,
In fact I have alredy seen a breast surgeon, because of shooting pains in my breasts and it was all ok. It was a year to year and a half ago. Now my mum's diagnosis just makes me more scared. But at the moment she is the one with the bad results and needs my support. Although I am a nurse I am just confused and lost and when I try to summarise the situation there ara always questions without answer. Mum had a surgical excission of a lump just behinde her nipple and the pathology report said it was Invasive ductal carcinoma, grade one,max diameter ot the invasive tumor 20mm. In addition there is in situ carcinoma of low nuclear grade. The excission reaches the margins, so the consultant recommends mastectomy. I am not sure wether the stage can be determent at this point and if they already know if there are lymph nodes involved. She hasn't had a chest X-ray, liver or bone scan and we were not told if she will need chemo and radiotherapy.
If somebody can help me with the interpretation of all this facts please do it. I am realy desperate and obssesed with fear.
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I was diagnosed three yrs ago with stage one . I had a mas with tram recon and 4 rounds AC and am doing fine.
Gain all the knowledge you can because I fully believe knowledge is power!
This is a great place. It saved my sanity many times over....
Good luck with yoyr battle and I know you will win and do fine....
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Hi Judy,
Yes, my daughter (Emily-from Guixi) also had that fear of doctors at first. When we were in China and the doc went to touch her she hit him! As for telling her, when we told our children we were very matter of fact. We said that Mommy had something inside her that the doctor needed to take out. We told them it was called cancer and that after the operation the doctor would give me really strong medicine that we think will help it not come back. We did not even get into the losing hair conversation until chemo was about to start. We also told them that they might have more playdates than usual. It ended up that I really felt pretty good all through chemo. I was able to function pretty normally although not at the top of my game. I had treatment on Thurs. and my feeling bad days were on the weekend so my husband could take over if I needed him to. Mondays and Tuesdays were a little tough but since the girls were all in school I could rest so that when they got home I could interact with them.
As far as Thanksgiving...I would go somewhere else. For me the surgery was not horrible but I definitely would not have wanted to do Thanksgiving. It is just too much work and you will need some down time to recover. Just take advantage of as much help as you can.
Feel free to pm me if you want. Also, is language an issue for your daughter since she is older and has only been home for 8 months? If so, I would imagine that it may be difficult for her to understand it all.
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Dear Judy,
I will be thinking of you. I too was diagnosed at age 40. I have a 6 year old who we adopted from China --- Carol, I had the very same thought-- that my little one could not lose another mama. My little Claire was 3 at the time and I got a book from the cancer center where I go that was written by two little girls whose mom had cancer -- I can't remember the name of it but it was a nice one to read to them to explain about the hair loss and everything.
It's such a scary time for the whole family. There are just a lot of unwelcome changes. I was pretty much able to care for my children through it all -- I had to have sitters while I went to chemo but when I had Herceptin for a year every few weeks I started to just bring the kiddos along and the nurses doted on them.
I pray that you'll be surrounded by kind folks. People brought meals and would have helped with other stuff had I let them. In hindsight I should have let people help more than I did.
Blessings to all you wonderful ladies,
Wendy
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Hey my dear sisters. Please know that 90% of us will live long, long lives. Breast Cancer is not the death sentence it once was. Treatment is so much better than when I was diagnosed in 1998. I am 9 years of cancer free and I expect to be just fine.
This is not an easy journey, for some, it is very hard. But for some, it is quite easy. So really, there is no way to know. But the fact that treatment is light years ahead of where it was just a few years ago is wonderful news.
So stay with us, post often, any question or fear, and anger or despair, this is the place to rant and rave. If you do this at home, you scare everybody. So come here and we will all help you every step of the way.
There are thousands of us out here who are finished with treatment and have gone on with their lives. All the women I started with are long gone. So don't be upset, some of the threads make seem like everyone has troubles, they don't.
Someone is always here, so post as often as you can. You are in a huge sisterhood, and cherished and loved.
Gentle hugs, Shirlann
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Hi, new to this board and I am glad there is so much great information. I am awaiting the results of my biopsy and will know on Tuesday PM. The biggest thing is that I am currently scheduled for my first complete knee replacement on 26 Nov. My knees are in in constant pain and it took me 4 months to make the decision to schedule the surgery; now I may need to delay it depending on the outcome from the biopsy.
I know no one will have any answers, just venting I guess. Thanks for listening. Jill
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Hello medotmom, welcome to the boards no one wanted to ever have to look for.
I know this is a really rough time for you and just wanted you to know we want to hear from you any time you feel like it.
We'll keep our fingers crossed that your bx will be B9 and nothing further will be needed.
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Hello
I was recently diagnosed with IDC myself. I'm 45, have no immediate family history of it except for a great aunt who I barely remember and she passed away when i was about 7. I have a husband and a 6 year old daughter.
The first week I spent crying, just walking around in a daze. I don't think I slept more than an hour or 2 at a time at any point that week, or ate at all. This wasn't supposed to happen to ME. It is tough, I know. I made it through all the tests, and had my lumpectomy and the SNB on 11/7. The surgeon removed the tumor with clear margins, and of the 4 lymph nodes he removed, only 1 showed cancer. I never really have had pain from any of that to speak of, just soreness and numbness.
Now I'm in the waiting mode for chemo and radiation to start. I have the consultation appointments both on 11/26. I assume shortly after that, a port will be placed and I'll be on my way. I don't want it to "begin" but i DO...I want to get this over with and get on with my life!
I dreaded the time when I was going to have to tell my daughter of what was happening. I was so worried of her reaction, and also of what I thought would be my inability to get through the conversation without getting hysterical again. She knew early on something was up--3 doctors visits, 3 days in a row, and she asked about it. I told her at that time that the doctor has seen something inside my breast and they were going to go check it by doing surgery, and that was enough of an answer for her. After surgery, and after we had all results, the perfect time to sit and talk popped up one evening, and I sat down with her and told her in basic terms what was happening and what we could expect to see in me once chemo started. She took it well, there were a few heart-wrenching questions but the answers were what was important. I guess as things happen, it remains to be seen how well she understands, and how we will all get through it together!
There is a book out to help explain--it's called "In Mommy's Garden" ..written by Neyal J. Ammary, illustrated by Christopher Risch. It gives a very basic explanation, and leaves so much room for conversation starters. After I had talked to my daughter, I finally got this book out and we read it together, and there were many times that she would nod her head in understanding-the things we had talked about were also in the book. It may be very helpful for you.
As for support...this site is great. Alot of good information, and alot of ladies who have already and who are now going through what we are. Many hospitals have information on community breast cancer support groups, and American Cancer Society has "Reach for Recovery" volunteers, ladies who have survived their battle with breast cancer and are trained to be 1 on 1 support for you, if you want. I think they try to connect you with someone who had the same type and close in age. I have found all of this to be so helpful. And I'm amazed at how many times already, friends have told me "Oh I have a friend who had breast cancer and ....". A lady in my office approached me the other day and she's been through it. Twice. I didn't know!
This has gotten too long....I guess I'm just saying, we've been unfortunate enough to get this awful thing, but we WILL survive and we WILL be stronger after! And there is support everywhere!
Hugs to all
Carol_L
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Hi Jbasil: I sort of went into denial to function, I mean I knew I had breast cancer but really didn't let process the way I should have. I have two grown sons they are taking hard to this day. Thanksgiving is the perfect time to get your family to help you, have the pot luck and then accept help, everyone will want to help and nothing feels worse than when you offer help and it isn't accepted. So start getting drivers, you'll feel tired at times. Set up babysitting, playdates, just accept any help you can get. I'm so sorry you sound like a fantastic women (all the women on this site are better than wonderful) There are lots of stories on this site about chemo and radiation but everyone is different and the chemo and rads treats everyone different. But I find my curiousity can make me crazy so reading everything I could on treatments helped. And when I went for my chemo I was the class clown, it helped me get through, my sister Susan was there for me all the way and still is she was my rock. I don't know how she puts up with me some days as the Docetaxel makes me sort of grabby at times. Your Dr. sounds like he's right on top of things and that really good. I just finished my last chemo last friday so I hope its uphill now. Just rads to go and then we'll see. But stay on this site it will help you in so many ways. All the best and prayer going out your way, I have so many people I pray each night I fall asleep saying names, better than counting sheep though.
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I was just diagnosed on Monday and didnt leave the house for 2 days! I just went on Anti-Axiety drugs which seems to be helping.
I actually slept last night!
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Had to chime in because MY daughter is adopted from China-she turned eight the day I came home from my mastectomy and I remember thinking- will I ever see another of her birthdays? I was between stage 1 and 2, went through 8 chemos and bilateral reconstruction. My daughter will turn thirteen this March and I will be five years out!!!!!!! Unbelievable! I must say that I have complained and had lots of ups and downs and tears and fears but I have appreciated every one of those days since Mrch 4, 2003. And YOU will be looking back in five years with your daughter, too. I thought it would be a trauma for her but she ended up going to a couple of my chemos (she wanted to), enjoyed watching my blood tests! And I guess it wasn't as bad as I thought- last year in science for family history she said there was a history of "small cancer". So that's what she thought for my 2 cm triple negative big bad aggressive tumor!!! And I know she's adopted and it's not her biological history-but isn't the "small cancer" comment cute???
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Oh yes, Maywin, that was darling.
I am a Triple Neg too and 9 years out. When I was diagnosed, no one knew much and did not say a whole lot about it.
Down on the Triple Neg thread someone was saying after 2 to 3 years, we almost never metastasise. We are in a little more danger early on, but later, our rate plummets while the rest of the types just gradually decline. WHOPPEEE!!!
Sue, SUE!!!! Hopefully, she is asleep.
Hugs, Shirlann
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