Thank all that is good and right in the world!
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For this section of threads, and the threads about lobular cancer.
I am thrilled to see/read you all!
I first came to this site in Sept. '03.
I had been diagnosed with lobular breast cancer in my left breast. I was 58. I had a pea sized nodule in my right, which was to be 'checked in 6 mo.'. Well.. that's how I came to be having a mastectomy.. I had been told to come back in 6 mo.. it grew so much that I could not get by with a lumpectomy.
There was little information about not doing reconstruction. I started posts, and had very little response from women that decided agains it.
There were no threads on lobular cancer, of any sort. There was little information to be found at that point. What I did find out was that it was more likely to appear in the other breast than ductal.
That was enough for me. Besides the fact that I had fairly large breasts, and felt I would be .. as my husband said.. always listing to the right, I knew that I did not want to go through all this again, in 6 months.
I knew I did not want reconstruction. I don't wear make up or dress up much as far as that goes. I'm a pretty down to earth person. I'm retired and live out in the country.
My husband is a family practice doctor, so I had other doctors and surgeons to to pick their brains.
My husband agreed with me. It was sort of a screwy deal, cause our insurance/my husbands employer was changing in Jan.. 3 months into my journey. Not feeling like I had a lot of time to figure out my options, I went with the recommended breast cancer surgeon. He was more about reconstruction than he was about getting me cancer free. He damn near refused to remove both breasts, even with my husband, a doctor, sitting right there saying he agreed with me! He went out, came back to the room saying he did not think that my insurance would pay for the other to be removed. We still stood our ground. He said I'm giving you more time to think about it.. think about bla bla bla.. as if I had not already thought about all those things and many more.
He came back after about 15 min. We said, nothing has changed. He said he had talked to his older partner, who said.. "I let women do what they want, it's their body". So, reluctantly, he did it. I came to dislike him. It was tough, and anyone that gets thru that, and comes out to reclaim their lives deserves a trophy!
Then, again, the lumps come, 3 on the scar line, and 5 lymph glands with cancer were wrapped in scar tissue, right under where the sentinel node test was done. I think that was wrong. I feel that the cancer was indeed there, when he did the surgery... but, I'm not a suer. pun intended...
It was so much harder than the surgery.. I am a red head.. a ginger. I burned horribly.
So, another surgery, by my friend and local general surgeon. He was glad that the "dog ears" of skin were left "in case I changed my mind about reconstruction". I'm stretched pretty tight now.
This is the end of week 3 of 6 & 1/2.
It took 7 3x7 telfa pads to cover it at the height of the burn. I couldn't believe they would continue.. but they did.. and on cancer # 2, I felt that I had to do what the docs said. I also couldn't believe that it seemed that it was very unusual and only one of the nurses really knew how to dress it.. and there was such office politics that she seldom was allowed to do it... even when I requested her.
But, I survived.. I thrive.. I now have 4 grandkids, and usually keep 2 of them at a time, on the weekend.
I've finally recouped a large portion of my energy level. Tho a lot of things I took for granted just don't work well any more.. bringing in firewood, groceries.. carting grandkids around, hoeing, pulling weeds are things that cause me pain.I take a lot of photos, and have applied for a tax id, in order to sell some photos online.
I posted my version of home made prosthesis on that thread.. cabbage patch titties.. not official.. that's just what they look like.
I surely waited too long to come back here. I don't know what has taken me so long to reconnect.
I am thankful for all of you being here.
Riverwoman
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Wow...Riverwoman...you are a brave, beautiful warrior woman! I am proud to call you a sister. Thank you for sharing!!
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Deb C
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You are AWESOME!! Fight on sister!
I too am a lob girl, but didn't have to fight for my bilat. My BS recommended it from the get go for a 4mm tumor. I don't know if I could've fought the fight as well as you did, stuck to my guns and got the bilat. You make me proud!!
lini
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Riverwoman,
What a powerful and inspiring story!!! It brought tears to my eyes!
Thanks for sharing!!!
Hugs, Susan
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Thank you, ladies. I feel sure that your own stories would also be powerful and inspiring.
I've been gone from here for a while. At the time I was visiting, I did not feel that there were any women on here that were having similar experiences.
I'm sorry I went away. I could have kept at it, til someone in our .. bras.. would see and join in.
I'm so glad that this conversation is going on. I don't personally know anyone that has forgone reconstruction, so it is very empowering to find women that feel as I do about it. Or at least some that acknowlegde that recon is not for everyone.
As I catch up on reading, I hope I come across your stories.
hugs and love,
Patt
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Hi Patt,
Welcome to the group. If you get a chance go to www.breastfree.org. One of the women here created it and several of us have contributed to it.
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Thank you!
Yes, I did, my first day back here... I've already written to her to thank her for setting up this site.
I can't stress enough how wonderful it is to communicate with like minded women!
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Yes, I agree. When I came to the conclusion that I would not reconstruct several people in my life were surprised at that. You know the drill..."What do you mean you aren't going to reconstruct?" I think people on the outside think that reconstruction is a simple procedure. Anyway, when I found bc.org and was able to connect with other women like me, well, it was just nice. I like being able to come here and feel confident that people "get me". I still don't get the big thing about breasts. I mean, yeah they are nice to have but really not having them has not been a huge traumatic experience for me.
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Thanks for sharing, Riverwoman!
I also had a tiny bitsy ILC on one side, but really knew I needed the whole darn bilat bonanza. I had two surgeons tell me no, but with my list of reasons why I wanted a bilat in hand, I found a dr who agreed.
I did do the expander/implant recon, have had trouble with it for over two years, and am trying to get up the nerve to throw off these great balls of water! Seriously, I'm wondering if the implants will hide returning tumors. My onc is kind of vague about how I'm supposed to find signs of cancer. Mammograms won't work, and he said x-rays would just expose me to more radiation?#@!
Your brave and gutsy! I admire that!
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I had recon twice and twice it failed. The last time I landed in the hospital for five days with a staph infection. My breast surgeon said we could try again in six months, six months went by and then two years have gone by and I still have not done it! I probably won't. For the short time that I had the implants, I found them to be very uncomfortable. And after hearing all the ins and outs of the other types of recon I decided it just wasn't for me.
If I was younger maybe, but at this stage of the game (59) I think I am just fine as I am.
This is a really good thread!
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Love your avatar, Paulette!
I'm a recovering Texan myself.. Austin. We are talking about spending Christmas there this year.
SLH, I'm sure you are brave and gutsy, too.. hopefully, prayerfully, you will never have to test yourself!!
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Dear Riverwoman,
Thank you for sharing your story and for posting the picture of radiation burns. When I was diagnosed with DCIS in left breast and the MRI showed some similar spots but smaller in the right one, I chose a bilat. I was 59, and I had found the whole diagnosis experience so terrible, that I really didn't want to go through it again, if at all possible to avoid it. (I'd had questionable mammos for over 20 years, and many ultrasounds, and a biopsy before.) Also, though my surgeon wanted to do lump & rads, I persisted, partly because I was terrified of rads, mostly due to my very fair skin and because my best friend was beginning rads and had told me about the dangers to heart and lungs, and so on. The surgeon really didn't want to do the bilat, but he did agree to do it. He proved, however, to be a real jerk, telling me that he didn't remove axillary lymph nodes (path report showed 12 on L and 9 on R!), that he hadn't caused the terrible nerve pain I had for months, and objecting to my having Physical Therapy, even after I came back for follow-up visits with much improvement. In fact, I fired him the last time, after he told me, "Frankly, my patients don't need physical therapy!" I'm not a suer either, but I detest that man! Anyhow, after seeing your picture of rads burns, I am even more thankful that I had the bilat. My only regret in the whole process has been that I didn't look for another surgeon after he was so obnoxious about doing it in the first place.
My friend suggested that I come here, but I didn't have the energy until almost 11 months after my surgery. When I got here, I found, as you have, some amazing support, and I am grateful for your post. There don't seem to be many of us who don't wear prostheses a lot. I got a pair, but I never felt very good in them, and I found that I had to keep adjusting to the way I looked when I took them off. I am still trying to invent my own little prostheses (the fitter insisted that I needed to get the same size I had been before surgery, which was bigger than I wanted to be). I am concave, more on the left than right, so I'd just like to sort of fill that in and make a very small mound, if I can find a way to do it... and that's just for when I dress up! Around the house I'm perfectly content. And I'd rather go with nothing everywhere than have the discomfort of a bra and those heavy prostheses! I've been going "natural" for most of the last 18 months.
I guess I get wound up when I talk about this. I'd love to see the prosthesis you made. Could you post a picture and/or instructions? I've tried crocheting and am now ready to try sewing.
Dawn
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Over the years my mammograms showed lots of calcifications and I had had numerous biopsies in both breasts; so this year with DCIS in my left breast, I had a bilat. Luckily my bs and my primary dr both agreed it was the right decision and my insurance did pay for it. All the agony throughout the diagnosis and the tests, two lumpectomies that didnt' get clear margins, waiting for results, I did not want to go through that again. Although the bs really pressed me to have reconstruction, I didn't want to go through more surgeries, pain, and have the chance of it failing or perhaps get an auto-immune disease. Just not worth all the risks.
I'm happy with my decision. I take my protheses off the minute I get home and go bra-less all evening. I do wear it to work and whenever I go out. I never thought bras were very comfortable, and protheses are no different. My surgical area is still slightly tender so that doesn't help. I've ordered a "leisure" mastectomy bra, and hope it will be more comfortable. Also I saw that Playtex has an 18-hour mastectomy bra, which I'm anxious to try.
It's not a perfect world, but I try to focus on the fact that I have a very low chance of recurrence, I'm healthy now and movin' on.
Really appreciate this website. So great to have others to share with and hear other stories.
Jan
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Welcome. and here... http://www.nextag.com/playtex-mastectomy-bra/search-html
You might check out these, too.. I just got some, tho I don't often wear them.. I can't stand the heavy silicone ones.. http://www.tlcdirect.org/subcategory/mastectomyfoamandlatexbreastforms.html
This is a great resource, also.. http://www.breastfree.org/
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