Anyone starting Chemo in August 07?
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Everyone's hair issues cracked me up. Don't know why nose hair is so amusing, but it is. And as far as the pubic thing goes, I feel like I'm ten years old again myself. However, my DH is oddly intruiged. Too bad I constantly feel like hurling.
And, June, good heavens, woman. You could be the poster child for What Can Go Wrong on Chemo Will Go Wrong. I think we're going to have to start calling you Chemo Diva.
Seriously, though, I'm really glad you're well enough to go out to dinner with the fam. Enjoy the visit with your son! -
I can't thank you ladies enough for sharing your knowledge and experiences. I really don't know what happened with my 4th a/c but I feel something went wrong. The nurses have been wonderful about telling me what they were giving me and asking me if I needed anything...until this last time. I hardly ever saw Ms. Sourpuss and she never said what I was getting and wasn't around when I needed something to drink. My chemo was started an hour late and there seemed to be some confusion. I was also distracted because my father (from FL) was there.
Anyway when I see the onc on Wed., I'm going to know all the drugs I'll be getting and I will make sure the nurses tell me what they are giving me. If I need a drink, I'll unplug my IV and get it myself if I have Ms. Sourpuss again. Speaking of drugs did anyone see the report that Taxol may not be effective for her-? I need to do more research before Wed. Actually I have my dh on the case. I'm also taking 2 meds for my bp and I now know to ask the onc about that.
Tomorrow I'm attempting a 1 mile walk for breast cancer awareness with my Pomeranian. I pulled a team together at the last minute and raised $589. Wish me luck!
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I think that is just great that you are doing a 1 mile walk tomorrow... I wanted to do a walk this time around, but was VERY late getting started... I have been just concentrating on finishing chemo, which I did on OCT 9th, so I guess that is enough for me for this year.
Maybe next year....
There just didn't seem to be anything in my area... I missed out on it...I used to live in MARYLAND, and we used to go to O.C., Maryland for short little mini-vacations for long weekends!
Good Luck to you!
Harley
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Harley - My dh and I go to the Outer Banks for vacation every year. How far are you from Kitty Hawk?
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Tami, I'm so sorry you had so much trouble with tx #4. There's no way you should have been yarking.
I did see the report on Taxol/Her2-. It's so hard to know what to do with the new studies, b/c for each one that says one thing, there's another that says the opposite. It will be interesting to hear the oncs' takes on this one.
Good luck on your bc walk--that's impressive!
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I too have no nose hair (boy does my nose drip a lot now!) and I definitely look like a prebuscent teenager in other areas. Still hanging on to a few upper lashes and eyebrows though!
Taxol/Herceptin #2 went great yesterday. I did my usual conkout, but was done in under 3 hours, came home, had lunch, slept for two more hours, and then felt great the rest of the day. Of course, the steroid kept me awake until 1:30 AM (or maybe it was the four hours of sleeping I did during the day?). Anyway, still no pains this morning and looking forward to going to a friend's 40th birthday party this afternoon.
Tami, Hope your walk today goes well! I'm impressed that you could pull it together so fast and raise that much money in such a short time. You go girl! What a bummer you had such a bad AC experience on round 4. ( If you decide to do Taxol I hope it will be a lot easier for you.) My husband is my drug-checker for me and is always looking over their shoulder to make sure they are putting in the right stuff. They also have a second person who double-checks the drugs that the nurse has compiled before they give them to me. They say it out loud too and tell me what I'm getting so I know for sure. I'm really pleased thus far with the cancer center I'm going to. Every nurse I've had has been great, and I've worked with almost all of them so far. The scheduler is absolutely the sweetest person ever, and even my onc and her nurse give me hugs and encouragement. I feel almost guilty after hearing about all the sourpusses that so many of you have had to deal with.
Oh, and I found an amazing essential oil product (www.amoils.com in case anybody else has any issues) that seems to be healing up my fissure problem. Or at least I no longer go into a panic mode every time I need to go to the bathroom which is definitely a huge improvement!
DeAnn -
Hello all,
I am fairly new to the boards but have been visiting the site since I was diagnosed in July. I have been reading this thread most of the morning and have not only enjoyed the conversations but have also gotten alot of good information from your collective experiences.
I finished my 4th DD A/C a week ago and go onto weekly Taxol and Herceptin beginning next Friday. The fear of the unknown with the Taxol is what bothers me as well as any possible allergic reactions. Did anyone have allergic reactions to it?
Do you generally do better with the Taxol as opposed to the A/C? No nausea I hope??
I had to laugh about the various descriptions of se's from the A/C, now I can put words to my symptoms.... Cat litter mouth, that was right on.
Do you have the same weird taste with Taxol or food not tasting right issues with it?
I'm sure I will have more questions, just wanted to jump in and tell you all what a great help you have been. I will stay in touch, thank you!
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Hi Girls.....
Sorry I haven't been on in a while. I had my first Taxol tx on Wens. after 4 dd a/c. It knocked the crap out of me. I was on the drip for 5 hours...up the whole night (24 hours) on Wens. Thursday I drove myself for the neulasta shot and was okay, but on Friday I crashed. Every, and I mean E V E R Y bone in my body is killing me. I could barely walk. I don't know what's going on. My eyes are tearing, my nose is running, my body feels like it's boiling. My brain???? I could read this site but could not post until now. Sorry to sound like a baby, but this is the worst I've felt since starting...and I don't have half the symptoms you guys have. I'm still eating like a hungry man!!Why don't I ever lose my apetite?? Also, I wanted to ask, does anyone have any pain near their ovaries? It feels so weird all of a sudden. Please let me know if anyone has experienced this. It's like a pressure. And I have shortness of breath. I thought Taxol was supposed to be easier, but for me so far it's not. Also, I have hypertension also and take medication. I wonder if by bp is going low and making me feel drained. Interesting.
Anyway, sorry. Hope everyone is having a great weekend. Glad to hear that some of you are walking and running. It gives me something to look forward to!!! I'm trying to stay positive but right now all I can do is cry. What a pity party! Smack me!!
Take care, Jackie
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Hi, Tara--welcome! I'm sure the Taxol girls will be along in a little while to answer you questions. Glad you jumped in to say hi!
Jackie--I'm sorry you had such a rough time of things. I've heard Taxol referred to as the "steamroller of chemos", so since you feel like you got nailed by a truck, I guess that's about right.
I've had shortness of breath on the FAC--I think it's a function of one's body straining from the chemo. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Taxol does the same thing. Kaye has had really bad shortness of breath--was that while on Taxol, Kaye? . Don't know about the ovarian pain. If it persists, I'd get it checked out. Hopefully it's just some weird transient thing.
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Ok, ladies. I have been sitting here catching up on your posts and laughing out loud at some of the stuff and feeling for everyone at all the crappy bits.
May I just say... I had NO IDEA i didn't have nose hair until you ladies just said yours was gone. So, I laughed out loud, went to the bathroom and checked in the mirrow. Yup... GONE!! And my nose has been running for so long and I never noticed the hairs being gone! How funny is that?!?!? What a wealth of knowledge here on the boards! Hilarious.
I finished 4 rounds Taxotere, Carboplatin, and Herceptin and I found myself to be very short of breath. Even today, day 9 after last tx, I was feeling out of breath going up and down my stairs at home. I may be "plump", but I am not so out of shape that I ever had trouble with my own stairs prior to chemo (pregnancy aside, of course...).
And Jackie... you don't sound like a baby-- we all know you're a warrior! Pity parties are allowed since we're all invited!
It's hard. Believe me, I do more than my fair share of crying. Hang in there... we're allowed to be upset. On another board, someone told me that there's "no point trying to be a super-woman. No bonus points are given or even offered." I though that was a great way of looking at things-- we don't have to feel strong all the time. Love to all... i am so glad you're all here. Although... I wish it could be for different reasons, of course. Angie
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Hi all, Ive had 4 cycles of Taxol. The second hit me kind of hard but I think that was dehydration. Alot of the discomfort Ive felt has been due to constipation. If you've ever been severely backed up you know what Im saying. Other than that Ive done really well. Almost no nausea, some fatigue but not
like I feared. Its been alittle scary because I keep waiting for that "Im a cancer patient " feeling. I'm not complaining.
As for the pain in ovaries I cant say I've felt any but be sure to talk to your dc about it.
Ive gained 11 pounds and I hate that but dc says its from the steroids.
When Im feeling run down I get short of breath as well, I think it comes with the territory.
Hang in there - the support of this site will help.
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Hi Monkeygirl,
We live near the beaches of North Carolina... Sunset Beach is the closest, and Ocean Isle Beach, and Holden Beach... We are 3 miles from SOUTH CAROLINA! Probably kind of far from Outer Banks area. We are about 60 Miles From Wilmington...That is funny... we came down here to live, and you come here to vacation!
Harley
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Jackie-I'm sorry your having such a rough time with the taxol. I felt somewhat similar after my first treatment at day 5, but I think it was more the neulasta than the taxol. Who knows though.
Has anyone switched from neulasta to neupogen during chemo treatments? After explaining to my onc about the migraine I had after treatment 1, he said let's skip the neulasta this time. I was sooo happy he said that. Then on Friday when I got treatment 2 I told the nurse I wasn't going to get the shot. She was sooo worried for me and said if she was me she would get the shot. And went on about how if my wbc gets low I won't get my treatment in two weeks. I asked about neupogen because some of you said it was easier on you. She said that's the same as neulasta only its short acting so I would need 5 to 8 shots of it and it still may not bring my count up. I'm so confused with what to do now??? Any ideas. I really like my onc and want to go with what he said (because I hate that nasty neulasta) but am scared to get behind. November 9th has been on my calendar as my last treatment since I started and I really want this chemo to just be over.
Any ideas?
My taxol #2 is going well again. Yesterday I slept from 6 pm till2 then was awake the rest of the night. I felt like I was hyperactive today. My 3 year old and I were out running errands, then I did a bunch at home. Slept from 5 till 8 pm and I'm awake again. I definately have slept less with taxol, but I don't feel like I'm going to throw up so its a better trade off.
Hope everyone is well
Kidsmom
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I also wanted to mention that I am going to have a bilateral masectomy now. I originally had a lumpectomy with clean margins, and 2 nodes positive. My onc and I looked at some statistics for reoccurance again, and he agreed with my gut feeling that its better for my to get rid of the "girls". I'm only 34 and with chances of reoccurance greater for us with age and greater once you have bc, I'm kind of screwed. My gut originally told me to get rid of them, but both surgeons I met with said a lumpectomy had the same reocurance rate, and the recovery was so much shorter and with a 18 mths old and 3 1/2 year old and no family in town, and the confusion and fear when originally diagnosed I let them talk me out of what I wanted to do. I really feel that for me, my future will be less anxiety ridden if I trade in these for a new pair
. After nursing two kids, they look like they are tired anyway (ha ha).sorry for posting so much, I think its the steriods again.
welcome to the new people on the thread and hello again to the girls (kaye, june, nash, harley, etc,) whose posts I read religiously.
You are all so much support to me even though I don't post often, your always in my thoughts and prayers.
Kidsmom
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Boy, I feel like I'm making up tonight for not posting much before-
I wanted to mention about the taxol study. My onc and I talked about whether to keep me on taxol or switch to taxotere. His take on the study was that if your her2 negative, and estrogen +, taxol would NOT be effective. I'm a triple negative so he wanted me to stay on the taxol. Has anyone else had a discussion about the new taxol study with their onc?
thanks
kidsmom
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Kidsmom--I'm doing neupogen specifically b/c I was afraid of the neulasta headaches. My onc says the headaches hit premenoupausal women harder for some reason. My counts come up after 2-3 nuepogen shots, so I'd suggest you give it a try.
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Hi Tara - I haven't had a whit of nausea since I started Taxol/Herceptin. That's not to say it's a total walk in the park as it does tend to give you some muscle pains in places where you might be especially susceptible, but so far I find it a lot easier. I haven't had any icky mouth taste either and no allergic reaction. I do get a little tired the day or two after, but otherwise feel pretty good. Drink lots of water! They say weekly Taxol is easier on the body.
Jackie, I'm sorry you have had such a rough time with the Taxol. I haven't really gotten out of breath, but I sure did on the AC.
I can't get Nuelasta with the weekly protocol, but my onc says that I can get Nuepogen if my counts start to go down. She didn't say much about how it works compared to the Nuelasta, but I have heard that it isn't as hard on you. Good to know it works well for you, Nash. I'm a little nervous about flying without WBC support. I am running a miniscule fever of 99.5 tonight, so I'm going to keep an eye on that, but otherwise feeling mostly OK.
DeAnn
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Girls,
Thanx so much for all your support. It means so much to me!!!!!
All you ladies are my lifeline. I mean it.
Love and Hugs, Jackie
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OK, This may be a strange question but, Has anyone experienced vaginal yeast infections while in treatment?
Thanks for the help.
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Hi Girls,
Welcome Tara! I'm glad you joined us. The more the merrier! Too bad we're not discussing "The Emotional Effect of the 3 day Work Week on North American Dust Mites", but welcome anyway. We’ll try to help.
Tami - nice new avitar! How did the walk go? When you said you "pulled a team together" My chemo brain saw a Pomeranian Sled Dog Team! It took me a second to figure out how you could get that to work.... How are you feeling today after all that?
Angie - After Kimmie's post we must have run into the bathroom at the same time to check our nose hairs...I'd never given it a moments thought either! (It's not a place on my agenda to "check".) It was great to laugh like that!
Jackie, I'm wondering if what's happening to you isn't an allergic reaction to the Taxol...I'll not be taking it, but I'm wondering if you post it in the place near where we have Chemo se’s, someone else will be able to help.
And regarding shortness of breath, yes. I still have that. It's either not as bad as it was after tx#3, or I'm used to it, because I don't seem to be gasping so much. I don't know what it means, because dh read that it was a se DURING infusion, and that's not what is happening. It's almost as though my lungs are "thick"?...like my tongue-on-thrush?
And btw, Angie is right. The pity party is on me, my treat. Where else can we sit and cry if not with each other? How are you today?
Kimmie...Ahhhhh, the old constipation situation. Yes, it's something I really need to pay attention to. It seems worse the first week after TX. I think the meds they give us bind us up. I started taking Colace the day before the txs, and kept hitting it until it went away. It helped when I started drinking coffee again. Even though it still tasted like poison, I used 1 8oz cup medicinally. THEN Senekot. It did help, but I need to keep using it every so often. Being constipated seemed to affect all the other se's too. And re the vaginal YI, I have an appt. Monday with my gyn because I think I have one too, and I think it was related to my thrush - which is better, but not gone...It seems better, but I'm going to keep the appt anyway. Tami, wasn't it you who had a hard time with that? Someone else too, but I don’t remember. (sorry)
And I gained 10 pounds, too. My husband gained 8. Funny. He kept his girlish figure through my pregnancies, but this bc stuff has just thrown him for a loop.
I’ve hit and passed day 10 post final tx…and I gotta tell you, every day is more and more of a joy. Every day I feel more and more like a human. I still LOOK like a Cupie Doll (fat, bald, stupid) but I FEEL like a human. (Not a FEMALE, necessarily, but definitely human.) Nash, we’ve been laughing about the “oddly intrigued” comment for days. That will be our new mating call...”Honey, come check this out. You might be Oddly Intrigued.” Or “Hey honey, wanna be Oddly Intrigued?” (You are priceless!)
WHOPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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Kidsmom - I wanted to answer you directly, and without any humor. I personally don't think going without either Neulasta or Neupogen is a good idea...you'll have to make that decision yourself. But please discuss it thoroughly with your doctor. You have little children - what are you going to do if one of them comes down with something and you happen to catch it with nothing to protect you?
I was not informed of the seriousness of neutropenia by ANY MEASURE from my onc. I had casually asked if I would be getting Neulasta from info I had learned on these boards. My onc said "No, I want to see how you'll do without it." I ended up in the hospital with white blood counts of " POINT ONE." I'd had developed what felt like a cold the night before with a fever of 100.3. All the literature says to call if it's 100.5, so i didn't think i needed to call. I felt better the next morning, but at my dh's urging I called my cancer center who advised me to go to the local hosp to get my bloodwork done "to see what my counts were". Once the local hosp saw my numbers, they refused to let me go home. I was admitted and kept 4 days all the while everyone had masks and gloves to keep me from catching anything. I didn't, fortunately. But people have died who had higher numbers than I did. I got Neulasta from then on, but during Neutropenia (days 7 - 12) I still wear a mask if I leave the house.
Bone pain is miserable, but probably can be managed somehow.And I understand about migraines - we just have to weigh everything. New boobs are not going to be any fun if you're not here to enjoy them.
Please forgive me if I sound agressive, I don't want to, and I'm sorry I'm on this soap box, but I feel very strongly about this, knowing what I know now. Look up Neutropenia on this site alone. I know some women don't get the Neulasta, and do fine, but I wouldn't even think about it.
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Hi agian,
KatoMato - you are just to dag on funny. Cupie Doll Thats to much LOL..Keep it up I've never laughed so much.
Gaining weight AHHHH I didnt kjnow why I was soooo hungry until the Doc told me its the stroids. My face looks like a basket ball on my shoulders.
Any great advise on how to keep from getting bound up? I dont drink coffee but am open to foods that may help. They told me to take senacot but it really didnt help much. I eat bran cereal and drink 8-10 glasses of water. Ill admit my activity level is down but I do what I feel up to. It doesnt take much to knock me down. Two thumbs up to my sisters here who can work exercise and have chemo.WOW -
I'm so thankful for these boards. Who else could you talk to about all this crazy stuff??
Kimmie, yeast infections are common with weakened immune system. I got one after being neutropenic and on antibiotics, but it's sort of been a battle each time. I just use over the counter stuff, and it seems to work. It's basically the same thing that causes the thrush in your mouth.
As for Neulasta, I had to have it the last 2 times and haven't had a problem. I do take Claritin before during and after because I had heard from several sources that it helps prevent bone pain. I also take Tylenol a couple times a day just in case. So far, so good.
Kaye, have you gotten out and walked more? For some reason, it really helps start my day.
I have my final round of Taxotere and Cytoxan on the 29th. I won't be much fun for Halloween, but my kids will just have to deal with it. Every year I've hosted a Halloween parade and potluck, but I handed it off to a neighbor this year. Can't do everything!!
I hope everyone has a good week. Better go and get my stuff done before the Chargers game. Have a great day!
Eve
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Eve,
Hey, you are ALMOST finished!!! I'll be thinking of you and praying that all goes well on your last tx... Oct 29th!!!!
Harley
P.S. I have been walking and running when I feel up to it, but I am still just so very tired... I can't wait to get back to my normal self again!!!
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Hey, Eve--we've got the Charger game on right now. My 9 year old daughter is a Raiders fan (have no idea why--I think she likes their uniforms), so she and my DH have a $1 bet riding on the game. She's so excited. You'll notice I'm here in the other room, on the computer.

However, on another TV alert note--there is a show on this afternoon that combines two of the things I spend the majority of my time thinking about--cancer and figure skating. The organization putting in on is called "Frosted Pink", and its focus is on women's cancers in general. They're putting on a figure skating show that's also going to have live music. It's on at 3 pm in San Diego on ABC--don't know when it's airing other places. I bring this up not to make figure skating converts out of all of you, but because I actually was impressed with their website--it is very well done. It's www.frostedpink.org
Hope everyone is having a good weekend and feeling OK. Maybe even slightly intrigued.

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Kaye,
thank you for the warning about not getting the neulasta. You made me definately think that I should just get the neulasta shot.
What kind of claritin are you guys taking. I tried claritin -D the previous shot and didn't notice a difference. Is it just the regular claritin?
Hope you all had a good weekend,
Kidsmom
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DeAnn, How's the fever today?
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You need to take the CLARITAN, not CLARITAN D...

Harley
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Hello All,
The walk went well. It was a beautiful day! I've spent most of my life avoiding cameras but I actually did a TV interview for our local ABC station. I still can't believe I did it and that I was calm. Unfortunately I haven't seen it but some of my family have. After the walk I ran a few errands and then spent the rest of the day in bed. I was pooped but it was worth it.
Kaye, glad you like my new aviater. No one seemed impressed with my pic of me and Keith Urban. Where are all the country music fans?
Yes I had to run and check my nose hair. I still have some but it's less than before. I too have a constant runny nose. Yes on the yeast infection though I thought it was from 2 courses of antibiotics. No constipation here, just diarrhea. I've been taking Tylenol and benedryl before the nuelesta. I think it helps because one time I forgot and the bone pain seemed worse. As sick as I was this last time, the bone pain was the least it has been so far. Or maybe I was too sick to notice.
Harley, I‘ve wanted to move to NC since I was in high school (and we won't talk about how long ago that was).
Finally, Jackie thanks for hosting the pity party. I tend to have mine alone and it's much better when we share. I was feeling guilty when I didn't have a "positive attitude" until someone told me not to put so much pressure on myself. Also, I heard Beverly Kirkhart (author of MY Healing Companion, bc survivor, motivational speaker) and she said it's okay to be angry, sad, etc. - just don't stay there.
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Tami,Congratulations on the walk!! I will DEFININATELY DO ONE next year!
That is TOO funny! I lived in Maryland all my life, and wanted to live down south, too... never picked a definite place, though... just near the beach!! and someplace WARM!
My dh and I went on a 2 week cruise over Christmas & New Years for 1999 - 2000, for the "millenium". It was then that he also became a "beach bum". So, when he retired from the Navy, we bought a house here in NC, and moved here... only he was still active duty, stationed in DC for a year, while I was here... and then this bc dx happened... so it has been a rather stressful year. But, I am still glad that we are living here!!
Harley
Maybe you'll move down here and be my neighbor!! There are houses for SALE!!!
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