Gary Null, and juicing

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2007

    Margie, your post almost made me cry.  You keep up that juicing and KEEP UP THE FAITH!  And losing 13 lbs since August!  That's impressive.

    BTW, I'm from San Antonio.  But haven't lived there for about 40 years.  I'm ashamed to tell you what my dh just brought me....a taco salad from Taco Bell. Sealed  My love of Mexican food comes from my past...San Antonio.  When we go there to visit I always want their barbecue  and Mexican food.  We have ground up pork here for barbecue. 

    Let us know what you find out after going to the Wellness Center.

    Shirley

  • juliebb
    juliebb Member Posts: 140
    edited October 2007

    I bought the Green Star from Fern's Nutrition online. The owner of Fern's says it's the best that he carries, and he carries a lot of brands. Cherie Calbom has a book on juicing and she highly recommends this juicer. She also recommends Tropical Traditions Organic Virgin Coconut Oil.> It is supposed to be wonderful on popcorn. I use it on toast. Haven't been too creative.



    Trying to find organic popcorn.

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited October 2007

    Hi Julie,

    Thanks for mentioning Fern's site.  I like how the juicers were laid out.  Yes, Tropical Traditions is the same Organic Coconut Oil that Dr. Mercola recommends through his site.

    Organic popcorn in the bottle is hard to find. Paul Newman and Orville Redinbacher make it in the microwave packages but I have only found one that makes it in the jar.

    It's Heartland.  Here is the site http://www.heartlandpopcorn.com/cart/home.php

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited October 2007

    Thanks Margie for the reply.  I'm so stuck on my same recipe that I rarely look at other veggies.  Such as, how would asparagus taste juiced?  I tried a turnip, I'm not too sure about that one.  I found an apple works to cover up some wild and crazy choices I've made.

    I don't think the time and effort we are making is in vain.  I've seen too many changes for the good since I've started this.  I do believe eating the right foods are healing for a lot of problems.  I'm not strict about this, I still eat some of the wrong foods, but not as often.  If your nutritionist has a gem I'd love to hear it. 

  • ferretmom
    ferretmom Member Posts: 103
    edited October 2007

    I have a VitaMix. While it does not *extract* juice, it does a wonderful job of making a whole food type juice.

    There is now a smaller container for the machine for smaller amounts.

    I also make whole grain muffins with the dry container.

    I find it much easier to use than a extracter type machine, and just a blender type container to wash.

  • juliebb
    juliebb Member Posts: 140
    edited October 2007

    Thanks Susie for the popcorn site!





    Sincerely,



    Julie

  • JoanofArdmore
    JoanofArdmore Member Posts: 1,012
    edited October 2007

    Margie, God bless you, and may the shoppin & choppin do the trick!I think they will!

    Rosemary, I cant resist you.The large opening is definately for me.I was heading to Bed Bath to look at the Jack LaLane.But then Margie gave the discount juicer website.THANKS, MARGIE!

    Havent gone yet.I'm really wrapped up right now, with my new dog, and my new hours and lifestyle.I was totally exhausted, at first, just from adding 4 new walks to my life and getting up 2 hours earlier.By now I utterly enjoy them.Especially the first-thing-in-the-"morning" one.No kidding!So if I can strengthen to this, imagine how I'd be if I juiced!A dynamo!

    I love the thought of minimal prep, and as Rosemary and Althea say, juicing being really no big deal.Ordeal.

    Just want to reiterate somerthing I learned reading Gary Null:

    Machines that liquify whole vegs or fruits, and make solid juice (are nice) defeat the purpose of juicing.Because the pulp, when it leaves your body, takes all the antioxidents and enzymes WITH it.

    Might as well toss carrots in the blender & hit "liquify".

    When I read this is when I saw the point of juicing and began thinking of getting into it.

    Rosemary--I've bought my first pomegranites of the season, 2 for $5.Would Jack LaLane make juice out of them?(If so, would it be bitter?)I SO dont have time to peel poms now.(but I WILL make time.Time for the black fingernails.)Loving the thought of juicing poms, though.

    Thanking you again, and be sure I will report when I have got something!

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited October 2007

    Hi Joan,

    I don't know if Jack would juice poms.  I haven't seen them yet.  They're getting juiced somehow.  If we could juice them, then we know we wouldn't store the juice in plastic bottles, so that has to be better.

    Just think, in between the dog walking you, you can be all juiced up for the next trip and empowered.

    I didn't understand that quote from Null about the antioxidants leaving with the pulp?  HuH?  Nothing solid leaves our body under 12 hours or more, then we give it another supply to work on.  So I don't get it?

  • Jaybird627
    Jaybird627 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited October 2007

    FYI on the popcorn: Whole Foods does carry organic popcorn. Look for the W.F. brand in the bulk section and the name brand (if that store carries it) in the chip/etc. section. If an item is available to W.F. but they don't stock it it can usually be special ordered, just ask.

    As for juicers, I have a Juiceman Jr. (I think - it was a gift) and it juices everything even pineapple rinds. It does create a lot of pulp mush but I was impressed with it when I did use it (it's currently not in use as I'm not big on juice).

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited October 2007

    Yep Jaybird---I had the full size juiceman and it was mega pulp. 

    Is it unpoped popcorn that WF is carrying?  If so I'll make my 2 week pilgrimage. LOL 

    Joan,--If the other juicers are like mine--I doubt they'd handle pomagranites---If you want to juice an orange you have to remove the

    orange part of the skin.  I used to try to leave as much white pith as possible but I really don't know if I got the nutrient value.

    Rosemary, Great Idea about juicing cauliflower and broccoli.  I juiced the

    others but for some reason I never considered those.  Don't know why

    because if I remember right juicing cabbage was supposed to be good for the stomach.

    Checked out the Blood Orange EVOO online.  Pricey with shipping.  Hoping WF will carry it.

    You guys are sooo making me drag that thing out again. 

  • 2up
    2up Member Posts: 1,358
    edited October 2007

    joanie ............ cut the pomegranite in half, turn the cut side down in the palm of your hand then whack the hell out of the backside with a really heavy spoon ...........  the seeds will all fall out and you'll feel great after beating the hell out of it lol!

    ............... that's all the advice i could ever hope to give .............. as a'll know i'm a hopeless redmeat and potatoes girl, but i always read these threads with interest and admiration for you all. 

  • janette2007
    janette2007 Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2007

    I am very happy with my Omega 8005 from Discount Juicers (same model as the 8003, just different color).  I had a $50 centrifugal juicer before that but the Omega extracts more juice.  The centrifugal juicer in particular did not extract juice well from greens, which are so important to health.

    The Omega is much easier to clean - takes just a couple of minutes - whereas the centrifugal juicer was a big chore to clean.

    Today I juiced a large bowl full of collard greens.  I don't think I could have eaten that many greens in one day, but I can easily drink the juice from these greens.  I have also juiced other greens; celery; some cucumber; and  broccoli.  I avoid juicing carrots, beets, apples, etc. because without the fiber, I think they give too much of a sugar hit.  

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited January 2008

    I'm resurecting this thread because I just got a Jack LaLane juicer at Costco this week. And now I'm having a blast making juice!

    I found out that a little bit of ginger goes a long way--I added too much to my carrot juice yesterday, and man was it spicy!

    I think juicing is going to be a great way for me to add in kale and broccoli to my diet. They have such amazing anti-tumor properties, and I just can't eat that much. But I can drink them!

    Rosemary, you mention adding olive oil to help with the veggie absorption. Do you add that into the juicer, or into the glass once the juice is made? My juicer won't do liquids.

    The recipe book that came with the LaLane has some good ideas for putting the pulp into muffins or soups. But, I'll most likely put it in the compost.

    I'm looking forward to trying broccoli--the kale tasted so fresh!

    happy juicing,

    Anne

  • thomcat
    thomcat Member Posts: 356
    edited February 2008

    Hi Anne:

    Glad to see this thread going again!  I have started drinking smoothies in the a.m. and am mixing green vegetables in with them.  I usually use romaine and spinach but have not yet tried kale.  There's a book called "Green for Life" by Victoria Boutenko that details the benefits and has a couple of pages of recipes. 

    A dear friend of mine who was dx eight months after me has recently gotten the same juicer as yours and uses the following recipe for "green lemonade".  Sorry I can't remember the exact proportions but if you play with it you can tweak it.

    2 small apples

    1 inch peeled ginger

    1/2 - 1 whole lemon

    4-5 leaves romaine lettuce

    I adjust the lemon because I don't have a juicer.  I'm mixing in a Vitamix which I recently purchased for my birthday and I love it!!!!

    Please share any interesting recipes you may come across.

    Cathy

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited February 2008

    I have to laugh.  Because of this thread I got my Juiceman out again

    and bought a refrigerator full of veggies for juicing.

    So, I used it ---thought this is terrific--Why didn't I do this long ago?

    Then came time to clean it---OMG-

    I have brachial plexapathy and RSD---makes my arm and hand pretty useless.

    No matter what I did I could not twist the thing off the base---

    I was so crazed I literally almost pushed the damn

    machine onto the floor with my remaining descent arm in total frustration.

    Nothing but smoothies for me from here on out---And if I ever win the

    lottery perhaps a Vita-mix Wink

  • RobinWendy
    RobinWendy Member Posts: 1,983
    edited February 2008

    I go to a complementary/alternative doctor and he has me on a high fiber, low refined carb diet (complex carbs such as whole grains, most fruits and veggies are good).  He is totally against juicing because it removes all the fiber that helps regulate the release of glucose and then corresponding insulin into the bloodstream.  The hypothesis is that by taking away the fiber from the fruits and veggies, you leave the glucose free to boost your blood sugar too quickly.  Then, insulin has to be released in equally quick measure to bring down the blood sugar.  Insulin is a growth hormone which of course, our bodies need.  But, for people with cancer, too much growth hormone circulating in our bodies can cause the growth of tumors.  I am not trying to tell anyone what to do, but in my opinion juicing is a costly and time-consuming activity that may hurt more than it helps.  Just wanted to offer a different perspective.

    Robin

  • lisametoo
    lisametoo Member Posts: 187
    edited February 2008

    Dear Robin,

    I'm really surprised your alt. Dr. is against juicing.  Virtually every alternative treatment includes it in some form.  It is impossible to get all the nutrients and enzymes necessary for health improvement unless you incorporate juice.  You would be eating fruits and veggies all day long to get the %'s needed to initiate a theraputic response.  You can always eat a little fiber along with the juice to get the proper response in the gut if the insulin/glucose issue is of a concern.  Have you not seen Jack Lalane?  The man is an icon of health and has been juicing for years.  Would hate to see you miss out on the benefits.  Ask your Doc if eating a bit of the fiber along with the juice would limit the insulin response, and if so, does he believe then, that juicing is of benefit.  Just another opinionTongue out

  • thomcat
    thomcat Member Posts: 356
    edited February 2008

    If anyone is concerned about juicing, you should definitely try the Vitamix.  It is a commercial grade blender and you get all the pulp from the fruit and veges in your drinks, soups, or whatever you make.  It was a heck of an investment (I got mine at Costco at one of Vitamix's roadshows at a better price than getting it from Vitamix) but I have found that it is a breeze to use and is it's own dishwasher.....a dream to clean up.  It sits on my counter and I use it several times a week to almost everyday.

    Cathy

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited February 2008

    I don't juice to the exclusion of eating fruits and veggies. I know the improtance of dietary fiber in controlling insulin levels. I think juicing is a good way to get in a few extra anti-oxidants that I may not otherwise eat.

    And, if I'm going to have a sugar jolt, it's better to have it from my juicer than a candy bar!

    saluki, you cracked me up with the image of you struggling with your machine!! One thing I like about the LaLane is its ease of its disassembly and cleaning!

    Anne

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited February 2008

    Cathy,

    I am drinking your "green lemonade" as I type, and boy is it good!!! I used kale instead of romaine. I'm hooked!! I'm even envisioning the summer on my deck with a splash of vodka in the juice...wait, that doesn't help the health aspect of the juice. Maybe some club soda instead!

    Anne

    Anne

  • thomcat
    thomcat Member Posts: 356
    edited February 2008

    Anne:

    Glad to hear you like it.  Try out some of the recipes I referenced above by Victoria Boutenko. 

    Maybe I'll try the "lemonade" with a splash of vodka, too!!!  Sounds great!  heehee

    Cathy

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited February 2008

    Cathy,

    I'll definitely look for Boutenko's recipes. I picked up "Ultimate Juicing" by Rodnitzky at the bookstore today, and giggled when i can across a chapter devoted to juicing and cocktails!!

    My hubby liked the lemonade, too. It was such a pretty shade of green!

    Anne

  • KiminJax
    KiminJax Member Posts: 531
    edited February 2008

    Hi Everyone!  I'm new to this thread.  I have a Vitamix and love it.  No fuss no muss.  It was expensive but worth it.  Super easy clean up.  Kim

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited February 2008

    Anne,

    Yes, one tbls of evoo to your glass that your drinking from, just pour some on top of the juice.  Vitamin K needs fats to get absorbed in our bones.  Plus we need the Evoo for a lot of reasons, so your killing 2 birds with one juice.  Cinnamon supposedly offsets the sugar high.   I like to eat the pulp, it's organic and washed and tasty.

    If you like a little spice to your juice, besides the ginger, radishes add that.  I use both, radishes and ginger, what a jolt to the brain, and sinuses just love that spicey stuff.

  • sandilee
    sandilee Member Posts: 1,843
    edited February 2008

    For my birthday next week, I ordered myself a Breville juicer. Smile

    I can hardly wait to try some of the things you all have mentioned here!

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited February 2008

    I got some radishes yesterday and am looking forward to trying them. I like to munch on the pulp, too, and plan on adding it to some muffins or bread one day when I get ambitious.

    Thanks for the EVOO info, Rosemary. I'll start adding it in.

    Anne

  • bbmom
    bbmom Member Posts: 391
    edited February 2008

    Cathy,

    I just bought a Vitamix last weekend. I love it. Anyone try spinach in place of the romaine in the green lemonade?

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited February 2008

    Thanks to this thread my juicer is on my countertop at all times now.  My problem has been finding a store that sells big bags of carrots.  So I can't say I've been juicing everyday, but I've definitely been drinking fresh squeezed juice anywhere from 2-5 times a week since December.  I like a combination of carrot and celery.  Last night I added some spinach and I liked that combination also.  

    My discouraging news is my fatigue continues to be relentless.   I go to the lab on Monday for more bloodwork and to the internist Thursday.  Hoping for some relief real soon.  So tired of being tired.  

  • bbmom
    bbmom Member Posts: 391
    edited February 2008

    Cathy and Kim,

    Off the juicing topic, but I made the whole wheat banana bread that was in the Vitamix recipe book. Instead of the butter I put a half of an apple. It was good.

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited February 2008

    Alaina,

    Any kind of dark green leafy will be wonderful in the green lemonade. I make mine with kale.

    Anne

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