Did anyone NOT have a bi-lateral?

conniehar
conniehar Member Posts: 954

Hi fellow ILC gals!

I have been contemplating a prophylactic mastectomy on my right breast for some time.  I was dx'd in March with a huge (10cm) ILC tumor and had a mastectomy on my left breast.  I asked my surgeon about a bi-lat at that time and he was against it as he wanted to get me into chemo asap and didn't want any possible infection in the good breast to delay that. I was fine with that as I really wasn't ready emotionally for a bi-lat at that time. 

So, I have been really thinking about this for the last several months and was convinced that I should do this.  I mentioned it to my surgeon back in June and he said he would do it any time I was ready.  Yesterday, I finally asked my onc for his opinion.  He didn't say he was overly against it, but he made me feel like it really wouldn't give me much of an advantage.  He said there was a 5% increase in risk over ductal and that this was reduced in half by me taking Tamoxifen.  He made me feel like it would be a drastic decision and mentioned that this was standard practice in the "old days" but he doesn't feel it's really justified now.  I told him that everyone I run into with ILC seems to be getting bi-lats and that I don't want to go through this again and want to do everything I can to prevent recurrence.  He didn't say much to that.  He is a very kind man, heavily cites statistics, and I don't think he would give me any problem should I decide to go that route, but it got me thinking again.

So, just wanted to check in with you gals as it seems like everyone on this board has had one.  Anyone not?  Why did you decide against it?  Thanks!!!

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  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited October 2007

    Hi, Connie. I'm in the minority in that I just had a lumpectomy. After the surgery, when it was found I also have extensive pleomorphic LCIS in the bad boob, both the surgeon and the onc recommended bilateral prophylactic mast. After much pondering, I decided I wasn't mentally prepared for the bilats/reconstruction, but that I could live with close monitering. If I could be 100% guaranteed to not have a local recurrence with the bilats, I'd be more moved to do it. But since that's not the case and my gut tells me to not do the sugery at this time, I stuck with the lumpectomy.

    Ironically, after I agonized over the decision for weeks, the surgeon and the onc went to tumor board, where everyone did an about-face on their recommendations, decided distant recurrence was more of a concern than local recurrence for me, and that my boobs should stay put. Sheesh.

    At any rate, all of this being said, if I'd had a mastectomy instead of a lumpectomy, I believe I would have decided to have the other side off prophylactically, if for no other reasons than not to be lopsided and to make reconstruction more symetrical.

    I think if you are emotionally ready for the bilat, you should follow your gut. Everything I've read has said that the women who want it done are much happier with the outcome than the women who are advised to do it by their docs, but who are really sort of on the fence about the whole thing. 

  • jpsgirl96
    jpsgirl96 Member Posts: 240
    edited October 2007

    My profile is a bit different - I had bi-lateral breast cancer, DCIS with a micro invasion of IDC in the left breast, and ILC in the right, with 6 of 16 positive nodes on the right.  I was able to have lumpectomies both sides, followed by chemo and extensive radiation and now Femara after 6 months of Tamoxifen (chemo sent me into instant and permanent menopause; I was 49 going on 50 at dx).  I have had several sets of first and second opinions, and all (breast surgeon, oncologists, radiation oncologists) supported this approach, some offering the opinion unsolicited by me.  Still, I must second the other posters - you have to do what feels right to you.  I have mammograms every 6 months, so live with that (so far) short lived anxiety, and MRI once a year (since that is what found the ILC).  Thinking good thoughts for you.  Leigh 

  • conniehar
    conniehar Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2007

    Thanks, girls.  I do feel in my gut that it is the right thing to do, but I have some time so I will talk to him again later on.   The single mastectomy was not as emotionally hard as I thought it would be and my reconstruction looks fabulous!  Only I hate the lopsidedness so another reason for the bi-lat.

    Thanks again!

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited October 2007

    I did not have a bilateral.  None of my doctors ever suggested a bilateral.  And even if they had, I doubt I would've opted for it.  I know some people get dx'd and feel like they can't get their surgery fast enough.  Not so for me.  I was terrified of surgery, didn't like the idea of losing a body part, and I certainly wasn't going to lop off anything that hadn't done anything wrong yet. 

    In addition, I was learning all I could about this awful disease, and I was aware of the increased risk of developing lymphedema.  I felt like it was bad enough to have one side compromised.  I didn't want both sides compromised unless it was absolutely necessary. 

    I had immediate diep reconstruction.  I don't know that there's a difference in volume so much, but there's definitely a difference in the sag factor.  I don't care that my original boob is saggier than my reconstructed side. My dx anniversary will be 3 years in december.  So far so good. 

    If your instincts are telling you to get the other breast removed, I think our instincts are very reliable.  It's just hard to distinguish, sometimes, between fear, wishful thinking, and instincts.   

  • Jani_
    Jani_ Member Posts: 90
    edited October 2007

    Hi Connie,

    I was dx in Feb '07 with ILC in my L breast and because I am 31 years old, my bs said mastectomy is the only way to go. She never mentioned anything about bi-lat.

    I saw her again a few weeks ago, and I told her I'm thinking about letting the good boob go as well. She was horrified, and said because I do not have the gene, my chances of developing BC in the good boob was not more than that of any other woman. (To which I replied that I've gone through this once, and am not that keen to go through it again...) 

    She did, however, say that acquiring symmatry was easier with a bi-lat. She told me to have a good think about it, and if I still feel the same way by next year, she'll do it.

    Decisions, decisions. Do we ever get a break?

    Janine 

  • Sandra1957
    Sandra1957 Member Posts: 1,701
    edited October 2007

    I also think that you must go with your gut instincts.  The few times that I haven't have always come back to "bite me". 

    I went with my gut and had a prophy. right last February with my invasive left.  My right came back with areas ADH and an area LCIS which were never suspected.  I felt like I nipped that ticking time bomb just in time. 

    Good luck to you,

    lini

  • Ihopeg
    Ihopeg Member Posts: 399
    edited October 2007

    Hi.

    I had a mastectomy on my rt breast. The surgeon said that there were 3 lumps and when I got the path. report, it said lobular and 19+ nodes. The surgeon was shocked. I wish that I knew about the lobular because I would have wanted a bilateral. Now after all the treatment is done, I think I want the left one off too. I wish the surgeon would have awakened me because I would have given my permission.

  • conniehar
    conniehar Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2007

    Thank you all for your stories.  Janine, my onc also mentioned going for the genetic testing claiming that would put me at a higher risk and then he may think it would be a good idea.  I highly doubt I have the gene as I am the youngest of 4 girls, no history with my mom, her sister has 7 girls with no history.....

    Lots more thinking to do.  Thanks again!!

  • anita15
    anita15 Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2007

    hi, I had a 9cm lobular, single mastectomy. I am 58 but still want some feeling in my breast, so I did not have a double - I'm just thinking about reconstruction now...i've only been out of chemo for 4 months....but do you have mri's done every 6 months....I know they won't prevent the cancer, but they will show lobular so it won't be as large as the last...did you have any node involvement...I did not....a

  • conniehar
    conniehar Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2007

    Hi Anita -

    I'm just 6 months out from dx and still in chemo, so I haven't had any MRI's yet.  I did have one initially as my tumor did not show up on mamm or US.  Also, I had one node that had micro mets in it and the other 11 nodes were negative.

    Thanks for your thoughts - I have the same feeling about "feelings" in my breast.

  • lesley_donna
    lesley_donna Member Posts: 24
    edited October 2007

    Hi Connie

    I was dxd in July 2004 with ductal cancer in my right breast, had lump rads chemo etc, in Jan 2007 I was dxd with lobular cancer in my left breast, i opted for a bi-lateral mastectomy. Turns out i had a 8cm tumor in left and two 4cm tumors in the right.  Good decision for me i think, but every one is different.  Ive read that lobular cancer is more likely to recur in the other breast.

    Good luck with it all

  • chinadoll
    chinadoll Member Posts: 2
    edited October 2007

    Hi Connie, I'm getting a mas left breast next Monday.  My doctor so no reason for me to get a bi-lateral.  My lump is 5 cm.  (they think) I don't qualify for reconstruction because of the size of the tumor.  I will have to do it later.

  • MusicTeacher
    MusicTeacher Member Posts: 13
    edited October 2007

    Hi Ladies and thanks for your input here.  For me, it was a tiny 2 mm invasive lobular carcinoma.  Lumpectomy - but the invasive part was removed ironically during the biopsy.  I'm so lucky.  A friend of mine did a bilateral with immediate reconstruction and had her ovaries removed at the same time.  Yikes!  She says she has no regrets.

    I feel kinda silly asking this, but what are 'mets'?  Are those the calcifications that show up with ILC?  Thanks

  • PeggyDixon
    PeggyDixon Member Posts: 125
    edited October 2007

    Hi - I had a mastectomy of my ILC breast when first diagnosed in January 2006. Since the large tumor was missed by mammogram and ultrasound just a few months before diagnosis, I was afraid to not have a second mastectomy. However, my onc wanted me to wait a year after finishing chemo and rads, and I just had the prophylactic mastectomy in August. I am very happy I did this - I am more comfortable physically and mentally. However, I agree with everyone else that you have to go with your own gut feeling really  since this is such a personal decision. As long as you get any change in your breast checked and have regular MRIs if possible...Good luck with the decision.

    Musicteacher, I am curious as to how you found such a little (2mm) carcinoma given that ILC is so hard to detect? Good for you!!

    Mets is short for metastases, or spread of cancer to distant organs/bones. "Distant" as opposed to "local" in the area of your primary.

    Hugs to all you beautiful ILC warriors out there!Cool

    Peggy xoxo

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