continued Tissue expander pain!!
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Sheila...that's so true about the medicine caps! There has been a couople of times that I just wanted to get a hammer and bash the thing open.....but, I couldn't lift the hammer! (just kiddin')
Anyway, I chickened out today girls. I called and canceled. I have hyst surgery next week. I'll wait. Maybe like you said Sheila, by then, my muscles will have had a chance to get used to it and it won't hurt so bad.
Wren, thanks for the compliment. I'm glad I made you smile!!
There are a couple of threads on here where we talked about the bi-mast surgery and recovering. I had mine 3/22/07. If you need info, PM me or find those threads. You'll see all kinds of different stories!
It's wild how we can all react the same or completely different.
I can tell you though that the vast majority had very little "real" complaints about that surgery. You would think it would be absolutely awful but, it really wasn't. I'm finding these freaking expanders worse!
What's that stupid movie most of our husbands, so's or whatever love???? Holy Grail or something...where the guy says "It's a mere flesh wound" after his arms get cut off. My ex-husband laughed his #*s off at that part...well, that's what I thought of about a week after my surgery and people were asking how I was doing. lol.....
How's everybody else doing? I hope Jean is o.k.
Hope you ladies have a great day!
: ) Traci
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Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Great movie!! Glad you put off your fill for now. Take care of yourself.
Katie
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Hi Traci,
I'm with Katie...putting off the fills for a couple of weeks won't hurt (and about the movie; one of the funniest scenes ever!). About the hysterectomy...I've never had pain during sex since the surgery (unless you count now with the booblet). I do have a very light blonde beard and mustache going on though (I refused the hormone treatment; had the surgery 12/26/01). I bought one of those small trimmers and shave about once a week. I don't like the way my makeup goes on the baby fine hair. Oh the price we pay for beauty!!! The worst part of the surgery was after because they pumped me full of gas (why I'm not sure but was told it's common). By the time I got home the next day I looked 9 months pregnant and stayed that way for about a week. Of course trapped gas has to come out of the plumbing at some point and boy was that interesting! I felt like one of my sons ripping one out every 5 minutes! (Kinda like the fart scene in "Blazing Saddles). It's definitely nice though with NO MORE PERIODS!!!!! Yall have a good night.
Margaret
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I 've read through this thread a few times and have finally decided to post
I had a right mastectomy on July 6, I am 5'6" and weigh about 110 lbs, normal bra size of 32 large A.
I started getting fills about 4 weeks after mast. at 120cc a week, except for the 4 weeks my PS decide to go on vacation(brat
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I got my last fill this past Tuesday and am now at 810cc.........And I must say......this thing is positivly trying to kill me! I swear it feels like it is either going to strangle me or rip out of my chest like that thing did out of that women's stomach in the movie Alien.
I have had to pad the other side so much people who haven't seen me in a while think I had surgery on the other side
I just wanted to vent about this darn thing and am so happy you ladies have started this thread....makes us all feel much less alone in this.
I also second whoever said they'd be happy when this year was over. I so can not wait.
Also I would like to know, how large anyone with a unilateral was expanded.... because I still can't believe my PS has filled me this large.
Thanks Ladies
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Memee,
I cannot believe you are expanded that large either! I'm 5'7" & weigh 155 & my PS won't expand me past 420 even though I've asked for more! How can you be a 32A on one side & filled to 810 on the other? Isn't there a huge size difference?
Janine
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Hey Memee,
Welcome to the club! I was a "D" at the time of the mast (lL side only). The PS did a lift and reduction on the right to a full "C". The expander is now at 640 (I need to get to 800). The reason mine's going that high is because he said he needs to make sure he has enough skin to cover the implant and create a nipple. If you believe you're getting too large, you should express your concerns to them. I also look very lopsided but I don't stuff the other side because then I'd have to wear a bra! Take care.
Margaret
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Thanks for the welcome Ladies
Yes, I am very uneven, this is why I stuff my bra
LoL
I asked in the begining how big I was going to be expanded and was told I had a 1000cc expander but that they would not have to fill it to near that much. He did tell me in the begining that he had to make enough skin to cover the implant with no pressure on the incision and to create a nipple, but I don't think that I really needed this much.
Several people have told me that it is possible that it is to cause droop to match the natural breast and several have said it is possible that he will place an implant in "good boob" to help even them up.
All I know for sure is this thing is HUGE
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This is my first post to this exchange...thanks to everyone for being so candid! Had bilat. mastectomy Aug. 29. That was no big deal to me...very little pain. What I hated was the drains...usual time to keep in is 7 - 10 days...mine refused to get down to minimal drainage of 20 cc's...but my ps took pity on me yesterday and said four weeks is long enough...now am being very calm and careful to avoid fluid build-up. But, what I thought was drain tubing in my breasts, and would all come out when the drains were removed, turned out to be the expanders! Ugh...I thought I would have relief...
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I too am experiencing expanders outside the breast area...sitting on my ribcage (on both sides) and worse, up near my armpit area...how big are those expanders? Am wondering if the expanders might pull up and away from those areas as they are filled...to eventually be more in the normal breast area...am I hoping for too much? 100 cc's were put in expanders at surgery...have my first fill since then on Oct. 11...hoping for some relief! There is NO way I can sleep on my sides with these expanders so am still having trouble sleeping through the night...
Thanks for anyone's suggestions...
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My advice for sleep, is a recliner. That was the only way I could sleep for about 8 weeks or so. I am now happily back in my own bed.
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Thanks, Memee! I had a hard time sleeping in the recliner once before, but it might be time to try it again!
It's just so irritating...I had no idea there was all this discomfort...guess that's a good thing...I've had a pretty good attitude throughout but these expanders are alterning my mood negatively. Am glad for everyone's advice on meds to help with the pain!
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Good thread. I hope it keeps going, because I'm scared.
Mast less than two weeks ago, with expander -- sometimes I think "It's not that bad", and sometimes I think "I want this out IMMEDIATELY." I want to feel like me, and looking a certain way seems less important now.
It feels like the bottom of the expander is pressing on my rib, and it just Never Goes Away. I am dreading my future appointments. My first "addition" will be in a couple of weeks.
I am discouraged. This is more uncomfortable than I thought it would be.
Everyone hang in there!
Reader
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Hi Reader,
I think I responded to your other thread
I've seen a few of your posts and it seems we're going through about the same things, I'm just a few steps ahead(I had a unilateral mast. with expander. I am fully expanded just waiting for exchange). So if you have any questions about how things have been for me, I will be happy to answer any.
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Happy Saturday Ladies,
Mine are pressing on my ribs too. My PS told me that this process could permanetly change the shape of my ribs!!!! That the constant pressure from the expanders on my ribs could permanetly change them!!!
I'm with you Reader. I want them out! I honestly don't think I can handle another fill. And, I'm only at 550 cc's. I get 50 at a time. The first 400 cc's didn't really bother me. Now.....it SUCKS! I'm a week and 2 days since my last fill. I thought I would be able to make it through the day without taking a pain pill but no....I couldn't take it and popped one.
I'm taking Oxycodone. I cut the pill in half though cuz a whole one made me puke.
Then today, I read in the paper....some guy robbed a Walgreens and a CVS with a GUN.............to steal not money......but Oxycodone. Great.....first cancer and now, I'm going to become a drug addict. Lovely.
Y'all have a good day!
GO COWBOYS!!
Traci
ps Double mast for me on 3/21.
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Hi everybody.
Hey Traci and Memee, I hope you guys are having a good day.
I have an expander on one side, and I'm thinking that I might opt for reduction and lift on the other, in order to cut this process short.
My biggest fear is that this uncomfortable feeling won't go away. I don't want to go through with the implant if it's going to feel like this (like the bottom edge is pushing on my rib, and like it's uncomfortable to take a deep breath). I'm kind of slender on top, and I guess my ribs are just not up for this. I got 250ccs at the mast, and I'm supposed to end up with 500 to match my natural breast, but as I mentioned, I may go for a reduction instead. I find it hard to believe that an implant twice as big as the expander is going to feel better!
The thing that helps me most is to exercise. I take long walks -- I can't wait until they it's okay to hike or bike. I guess I like the endorphins! And I was pretty active before all of this happened, so I guess when I exercise I feel more like myself.
I would love to hear from people either way -- did your switch to implants make thing better, or did the implant swap just feel the same (pressure, weird feelings when you breathe, etc.)?
Thanks!
Reader
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Hi Ladies,
I had R mast on 11/3/06 with expander inserted same time. I was miserable with it the whole time (it was very tight even before fills and quite painful) but suffered through. I had a prophylactic mast on L on 9/4/07 with expander and exchange on R to permanent. Sorry to say the permanent is not much better than expander other than PS took out some scar tissue and the port. It is more under my arm than in front so I look flat. I am so disappointed! Plus it is smaller than we discussed (I was DD before and wanted a full C, went to buy a bra and I am barely a B!) and when I told him he said "Well, we can put in another one", like this is routine. I don't want more surgery, plus hubby just lost his job and insurance
. I don't know what to do. The new expander is not too bad, in fact it feels better than permanent even after only 3 1/2 weeks. I thought God doesn't give up more than we can handle. HUMMM???
Stage 3 w/Lymph nodes...4 AC, 4 Taxotere, 6 weeks rads and two mastectomies plus surgery for port insertion. Getting weekly infusions of Herception for 36 treatments. I am tired!!
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Dear EGAL,
I will be praying that things turn around for you immediately. You sure do have a lot to deal with on top of being a breast cancer patient. I had my drains taken out last Thursday and have been feverish ever since...as high as 100.8...but usually 99. something! Plus, the expanders have made my whole area tender and sore...not only that, but the expanders look like they're centered near my arm instead of the booby area...after your comments, I am going to ask him if this is how my implants will be placed...if so, he can take the whole thing out and I'll just go flat! I don't even know my treatment options yet...will find out tomorrow a.m. My cancer was considered non-aggressive, but I did have 3 - 4 tumors between both breasts...praying I won't have to do aggressive treatment for months and months...anxious to get on with implants, of course!
Everyone here will be in my prayers because I know how uncomfortable we all are!
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Hey Egal,
That SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm going to print your post and take it to my PS the next time I see him. He better not mess me up after all of this.
I was talking to Margaret....I think....about my expanders being under my arm pits (practically) he better not make my implants be there.
I'm having a hot flash.
Traci
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I had almost unbearable pain when I had my expanders. I had waited 4 years after bilateral mastectomies. The first fill was OK as long as I was laying down. But my ps gave me a muscle relaxer and vicadon and I was OK. I took a muscle relaxer every time at least an hour before my fill and it worked wonders! I was getting 100-150 cc every time. Soon it quit hurting and was only tight. I will get nips during Nov. So far, so good. I love my new boobies!
I also had saline because of my age (58) and if and when I need to get new ones it would be an easier surgery. Girls, hang in there, you will make it! Oh, I had been a 46 DDD and now I am a 40 C! I ended up with 700 cc in each one. I am pretty broad chested, to say the least. But I love how I look. I also like the new wireless IPEX bra from Victoria's Secret. It is sooooo comfortable!!!
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Hey Everyone,
It looks like we're all in various stages of getting the fill ups but all still having imilar pain with the expanders. These things suck!!! Had the mast July 12 and started the fills in August. The first one was tolerable but the rest of them are awful. Going again Friday and I'm to the point where I may just ask them to do 50cc's a week until I get to the 800 they need (at 640 now). I'm not having the swap until a week before Christmas. From what others have posted, it appears the relief from the expanders is immediate.
Reader, I had a reduction and lift at the time of the mast. That part wasn't so bad but like Donna, I had my personal testicles (pet name for the drains) for almost a month on the mast side. The only pain I had on that side was due to swelling and I was pretty uncomfortable for about 2-3 weeks. It's nothing like the pain from the expander!
Traci, Just wanted to let you know you're in my thoughts for the upcoming hysterectomy. Welcome to the no more period club!
Yall have a good night!
Margaret
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Thanks Margaret.
One of the girls told me tonight to eat only non-solid foods cuz my bowels were really going to be messed up. Great....well, it's not like I'm not use to it after chemo.
My freaking expanders were "spasming" all day today. GAWD.....in a way, I can't wait to have the hysterectomy so I can forget about the expander pain!!
BrendaBlack, I'm glad you're happy with the end result. That's what everybody....well, except for Egal.....I hope she's posts again. Anyway, I can't wait until I'm one of the girls saying that.
I'll see y'all maybe tomorrow, if not, after surgery.
Hugs and kisses!!!!!!!!!!
Traci
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Hey Traci:
Just wanted you to know you'll be in my thoughts and prayers this week. Get good pain meds and just rest. Let us know how you're doing when you're up to writing an email. We'll all be thinking about you.....hang in there.
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Hey Ladies,
Well, what a crappy morning I have had.
My little sisters PET scan lit up something on her vertabrae's. She had BC 9 yrs ago for those of you who didn't know. I've been crying all morning.
But wait....it gets better....I was switching my insurance from group to individual..why is a long story...anyway, the hosp called to verify my ins for surgery tomorrow and Aenta told them it had been canceled effective 10/1.
It boggles my mind that my incompetent agent, may have made me un-insured and .... un-insurable!!
Needless to say....surgery canceled. My agent said I should receive paperwork within 7-10 days.
I'm so scared about my little sister. She's being all brave in emails to me because she's at work but I know....as soon as she gets in her car, she is going to lose it. She lives in Atlanta......
Anyway, I sure hope all y'alls days are going better than mine!!
: ) Traci
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Dear Traci:
I'm so very sorry for what you're going through. I don't even know what to say..... I hope that you have a strong, loving support system close by, because you certainly need that right now. Even though none of us know each other personally, we are here for you whenever you need to vent. I just wish that could make everything ok. Somehow this insurance business has to work itself out. That was not your error!
We'll be keeping your sister in our thoughts and prayers now as well. Please keep us informed on what's happening, Traci. Somehow this is going to get worked out. It has to.
Take care,
Katie xo
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Good Morning Ladies,
Traci...I think all of us need to pray for a mild coma and wait until January 1st to get here! YIKES!!!! I'd be wearing an orange jumpsuit about the insurance debacle (orange jumpsuits are the color the prisoners wear in New Orleans). I'd be on that SOB so fast they wouldn't know what hit them! I hope all turns out well for your sister. As is she didn't have enough issues with the former bc diagnosis. Keep us posted on how things are going.
I think the larger the expander gets the worse the spasms get. I was shoping the other day with my oldest son (he's turning 28 in a couple of weeks) and had to stop in my tracks...couldn't move or breathe. I just yelled out in the store "My titty's twitching!". Needless to say I got some strange looks. We laughed the rest of the trip. Gotta find humor anywhere you can! Have a good one!
Margaret
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Tracy, I am so sorry to hear about your sister, I pray that all goes well with her.
I am with Margaret about your insurance agent. I would go 'postal' on him if he screwed up my insurance.
Mamhop, don't give up on reconstruction. Not everyone has problems with the expanders. I have had only mild discomfort with mine and am ready for the exchange surgery Nov 4.
Sheila
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Thanks for the nice words Ladies.
I feel so much better today. I just woke up! One vodka lemonade, two glasses of wine and one ativan knocked me out last night! I don't even remember waking up to a hot flash!
I don't know what I'll do if I am permanetly uninsured. I won't even think about that right now. I'll wait for the paperwork I'm suppose to get in 7-10 days (yea, right) and take it from there. I've thought about calling the insurance company directly but I'm afraid of what they might say......I might change my mind on that. Ironically, my sister Debbi works for the Hartford..different division of course but maybe she can find some insight for me. I'll ask her when she calls later to see how my hysterectomy went!! Ha! I think if it weren't for the double dose of xanax I took after I found out about Debbi's scan, I may have gone postal on my agent. But, I was amazingly calm with him. So.....unlike me. I'll let you guys know what happens.
Sheila, I'm so jealous about the ease you had with expanders. I am two weeks from my last fill and although I am in no where near the pain I was...it's still uncomfortable. I need to call him know that my hyst has been canceled and get another fill but I don't wanna....
Anyway, Hope y'all have a good day!
Hugs, Traci
ps M....she's right....there are more women on here that didn't have pain than there are that did. And, there are alot of women that didn't have re-construction. You should start a new thread with that title and they will come on and tell you their experiences. Maybe that will help you decide! I wish you well girl either way.
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i had tissue expanders put in 5 weeks ago, had my first saline injection today and i'm struggling with major back pain again (just on the radiated side). does anyone know, will that ever go away? will it be any better with the actual implants? how do you make the back pain go away? i just want to cry!
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Sorry Roonie,
I ...literally.....feel your pain.
I take 1/2 Oxycodone and that does help.
My ps BETTER re-fill my prescription cuz I have one pill left. And, I'm about to take 1/2 of that.
I think I'm gonna call him tomorrow and see if I can handle another fill...since my hyst was canceled.
I'll let you guys know.
Good luck Roonie.
Traci
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Hi Ladies,
I was wondering how many of you have had an exchange where the expander was radiated? I am going in on Friday to have my lb expander replaced (finished rads back in May) and a proph mast on my right breast with immediate silicone implant. I've read that sometimes with the radiated skin, the exchange doesn't go so well. Any comments? I've read through through this thread, and it's not something I've seen talked about. Thanks!
Bobbie
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