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  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    Just back from my first Taxol - gee, only 11 more to go!

    No reactions at all.  I was a little dopey from the Benedryl, but not enough to sleep (ME sleep.... what a concept.... I don't sleep!).

    So we'll see what the next few days bring.  Had to see the onc. I don't like (don't think he likes me much either, so it's a mutual thing).  He doesn't like when I ask questions, and I ask a LOT of questions.  That's his problem.  I figure my insurance company and I are paying a lot of money for his services, I can ask all the darn questions I want!  At least I don't have another office visit until 10/18, and maybe I'll get lucky and see the lady onc..... HER I LOVE!

    But anyway, he did give me a Rx for a sleeping pill called Restoril.  Says it'll work just as well or better than Ambien or Lunesta.... it's just not "sexy".    I'm a little afraid of becoming addicted to them, so I'm going to be very careful how often I actually take one.

    Nice thing that happened today.  I'm a quilter and have an internet quilting group that I'm involved with.   A group of the girls decided that they would make me quilt blocks and mail them to me as a show of support during my treatments.  Lots of them are from the US, but there are also some from Australia, England, Ireland and Brazil.  I put them all together and one of the girls machine quilted it.  It came home yesterday and went with me to chemo today..... like having a hug from all my quilty friends!  I'm not able to figure out how to post a picture out here..... if someone else knows, I'd share a picture.  It's really pretty.... pink and red hearts.

    Hoping everyone's having a good day.

    Abbi

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    Glad to hear the Taxol wasn't so bad Abbi, that's great news!  Very cool about the quilt too.  I've always thought about trying quilting, is it hard to pick up?

    Abbey, my little boys are 3 & 1.  My 1 year old Ben is the one who was sick.  They sure keep me on my toes!

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    Abbi....so glad that your Taxol went well today. Please share with us the next few days how you are doing compared to the A/C.  I'll keep you in my prayers.  That's really neat about your quilt...what a nice thing to be able to take to chemo with you.  Bummer about the onc you had to see today.  Mine is a guy...but I like him alright.  I see one of the other ones there also...he has an accent, but other than that he seems ok too.  I find all oncs to be kind of "awkward".  Anybody else agree?  Now, my breast surgeon...absolutely LOVE her.  Thank goodness tomorrow is Friday.  I'm exhausted!

  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    Well, day 2 after my Taxol and I feel like nothing's happened at all.  No nausea, though I am taking the compazine. 

    Slept really well last night w/o taking a sleeping pill.  I figured I had enough drugs floating around my body, I was going to see how I did w/o it.  Woke a couple times, but went right back to sleep.  Got up with the alarm at 5:30, got the kids off to school and crawled back in from about 7:15 to 8:30.  I'm still a little tired, but I think it's a combination of lack of sleep over the last couple weeks and life in general.

    Kinda waiting to see if I'll get the aches I've heard others report over the next couple days, but so far this is a MUCH EASIER drug than the A/C.  11 more weeks of this will be not too bad.

    Abbi

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    Abbi...so glad to hear that!  Have a great weekend everybody!  I'm going to Frankenmuth, MI with my family for their Oktoberfest.  I won't be able to drink much beer...but that's ok.  I'm just glad that I feel well enough to go this weekend :)

  • jbw3843
    jbw3843 Member Posts: 46
    edited September 2007

    Just go done with AC #4 yesterday. I am now taking Emend. The nausea was so bad with the previous AC treatments. I'm hoping this will make the last one the easiest one! The next couple of days will be telling.

    Those who have started Taxol are giving me hope that my 12 treatments will be nowhere near as bad as the AC. I too have to take 5 Decadron the night before and the morning of. This also causes me concern.

    It's funny. I thought I'd be feeling so elated that I was done with AC, but like everyone else recently, I'm just so tired of the whole thing. Tired being the operative word. I get home from school and I just collapse. My red blood count was very low so I had to get an injection of aranesp. The onc said it should give me more energy and that the low count has been a reason I've been so tired.

    I did have something good happen. I went to the American Cancer Society and there is a lady who volunteers once a month helping women with their wigs. She owns her own wig shop and specializes in chemo patients. I got a free wig and she styled it beautifully. She cut out pieces of the actual wig and stitched it back together until it fit my head like a glove. I have a small head so most wigs are too big on me. She made bangs to attach into a scarf if I wanted. She was amazing. Just fearless with those scissors. I had pictures with me precancer hair days and she styled it with wig mousse and it was such a cute wig when she was done.

    Stay strong everyone.

    Jane 

    Abbey I used to be a swimmer and I always worked out after school. I get discouraged when I think of my muscle tone fading, but I know I will get back in shape when this is all over. I do what I can, but weights are out of the question. They pull on my port and really bother it. It's located right under my bra strap and even my bra bothers it, so I have to wear a certain bra that has straps way over to the side. You're doing amazing keeping up with rigors of being a PE teacher. I know I walk around the classroom more than the typical classroom teacher, but no running for me these days.

  • Marie853
    Marie853 Member Posts: 45
    edited September 2007

    It's been awhile since I've written here. My AC#3 and #4 wore me out, but not too bad. I'm trying to keep up with work, but it's not fun. Had to have a liver biopsy in the middle of #3 and #4. Still don't have the results. Ugh! They say "no news is good news"...well, I hope. My onc is kinda laid back. I'm just too scared to call them.-

    Well, it's on to Taxotere every 3 weeks with Herceptin. Is anyone on or starting that combo? Does anyone know how different Taxol is from Taxotere?

    I feel like everyone else...just tired of the whole thing...especially not having much hair! And, what I have, is really wierd...the stands are dark, then light then dark. You can tell when I had the AC tx's. Weird! I think i should shave that off. I hear some people start to grow back their hair with  Taxol/Taxotere. But, I bet it's that weird growth. I just want to be normal! Do you think we will ever be normal again??? Whatever that is.....

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    Will we ever be normal again?  Yes, we will be normal again, just not under our old definition of normal.  I don't think you can ever go back to that after being through something as hard as this.  I too am so freaking tired of this chemo routine.  Whoever said it was a marathon was right! 

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    Jane...you were a swimmer?  So was I...swam in college at Eastern Michigan University.  I'm also worried about losing my former level of fitness/muscle tone.  I know that I will build it all back up once I'm done with chemo...but it's very hard for me to not be able to do it NOW.  I hear ya about coming home from school and being dead tired.  I've been going to my parents' house for dinner some nights, and by the time we eat...I'm ready for bed.  No kidding, I've been going to bed at like 8:00...and it still feels like I don't get enough sleep when the alarm goes off at 5:15.

    Ladies, we will all feel like a human being again once we are done with treatments.  I will be half way come next Thursday (my last treatment of Taxotere).  I can't wait for December 20th...when I can say that I'm DONE!!

  • gshoemate
    gshoemate Member Posts: 190
    edited September 2007

    Good Saturday to everyone.  Wow, what a week.  My mom and sister-in-law have been visiting from Michigan so I have been trying to keep them entertained. 

    I go for taxol #3 on Monday then only 1 more to go.  There really is an end to chemo.....I can see it!!!!  Then I get to be nervous about radiation.  I'm sure it's going to be much easier then chemo but the thought of getting the "tattoos" terrifies me.  Not like I'm deformed enought now I get to have blue dots on me.  I haven't had to much trouble with taxol.  I have been having pain in my node removal area.  So much that yesterday I couldn't wear a bra, I had to wear my cami from when I had my mastectomy.  My other breast has been giving me some problems as well.  I don't know if it's PMS (even though my perid hasn't shown up for 2 months) but my breast has been painful.  I keep feeling for lumps but nothing there.  And the pain moves, one day it will be one place and the next day the pain is somewhere else.  At times the pain even radiates down towards my ribs.  I know I have to say something to my onco. but I am terrifed.  It will mean more tests and more waiting for results....will this ever end.

    I took my mom out on a casino boat the other day and we had a great time.  Everyone was really nice but I did have this older gentleman that would not stop staring at me.  We were all standing waiting for the boat to doc in this hallway and he was literally staring.  Then he moved closer and kept staring then look away, staring and look away.  Finally I said something to my sister-in-law and she must of gave him a dirty look because he didn't look at me again.  I can't wait for my hair to grow back.  I think it started to a little and then I noticed the other day it was falling out again. 

    I hope everyone is doing well.  Abbi, glad to hear taxol went well.  AC is evil but I can handle the side effects of taxol.

    Have a great weekend everyone!!!!

    Ginger

  • mominpa14
    mominpa14 Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2007

    Hi girls,

    It's been a long time since I've posted.  I got my first Taxol on Tuesday (1 of 4 dose-dense).  SEs kicked in on Thursday...made my whole body sore, like they said.  It is starting to get better today.  I also just found out, I am NOT getting radiation (there was much discussion about that).

    I started a new job a couple of weeks ago.  Just a little part-time job (7 hrs/wk), but perfect for right now with 2 little ones to care for and chemo.  And I can do half of it from home.

    I, too, am SO sick of chemo, feeling like crap, and baldness!  I am really going to celebrate when this is all done...just in time for Thanksgiving.

    Thinking of all of you,

    Karen

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2007

    Hi everyone:

    I have finished my TC and will be having my mast and reconstruction this Wednesday (Sept 26). I am really scared. It seems like this will never be over. My lump appeared in May, I had my excisional biopsy, then chemo. 

    Three weeks after my surgery, I will be back on chemo...again. My Onc wanted me to have TAC next time but as it appears the TC didn't work, he may change it to some other cocktail. 

    I had only 3 tx of TC but wondering how long most of you are on TAC, 6 treatments? 

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    Hi Jean...I have 8 treatments...4 Taxotere, 4 AC

  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    (((Jean))).  I'd be scared, too.  Hang in there... it'll all be over before you know it.

    Day 3 after Taxol #1 of 12... no nasty SEs other than I messed myself up with my Lexapro.  It makes me sleepy for a couple hours when I take it in the morning so I decided to try taking a night.  I've been awake since 12:30 a.m.!!!  So today, I'm a zombie.  Fatigue is getting me... I think it has nothing to do with the Taxol and everything to do with me being stupid and messing with my dosing schedule.

    Seeing a therapist tomorrow for the first time.  I feel silly, but I really am having anxiety and depression issues, so it's time for some professional help.

    This journey is just too darn long and hard.....

    Abbi

  • jbw3843
    jbw3843 Member Posts: 46
    edited September 2007

    Day 4 after AC #4. Not much of an appetitie. I think the Emend made Day 3 better, but I don't think there is a magic bullet here. I think I'm going to feel nauseated no matter what I take. I did feel less of it though. At least my stomach wasn't turning everytime I moved. I could find a comfortable position. I think I see some new hair growth also. Light fuzz. Whoopee!

    Abbi, don't feel silly about therapy. It hopefully will make your journey easier. Good luck.

    Abbey, both my children were college swimmers. I know your competitive spririt will help you through with this. Even though my competitive swimming days are well behind me, I still draw from those experiences. Hang in there girl! 

  • figsgirls
    figsgirls Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2007

    DH and I were just moving stuff out of the closets in preparation for the rug guy coming tomorrow to install carpet in our bedroom. We found the gray wigs my MIL gave me back when I found out I was going to need chemo. They were hers from her chemo for lung cancer. But she is in her 70's and I am 42! (OK I'll be 43 in a couple of weeks). No grey wigs for me! DH and I had a giggle. I know she had good intentions though.

  • gshoemate
    gshoemate Member Posts: 190
    edited September 2007

    Hello everyone, hope you all had a good start to your week.

    Had taxol #3 today.  It's hard to believe that 14 days from now chemo will be done.....kind of scary to.  So ladies...there is a light at the end of the tunnel for us that started chemo in July.

    The good news is that I broke down and told the onco. nurse about the pain that I was having on the mastectomy side and my other lonely breast.  She felt both sides and felt no lumps....what a relief.  She said between the taxol, neulesta and the fact that my hormones have no idea what is going on with the loss of period and chemo induced menopause that she didn't see anything to be concerned about.  I still have a bit of anxiety over the whole thing but feel much better.  I guess the panic of feeling pain will no longer go away.

    Abbi, don't feel silly about going to a therapist.  We all deal with this in our own way.  At times I have felt like I need to see one and it is nothing to feel silly about.  I think your amazing to realize that you can't do this on you own and that your reaching out for help.

    Well, I think the steroids are finally wearing off and I may be able to fall asleep.  Just in time to wake the kids up at 6:00 to catch the bus.Frown

  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    Seeing the therapist yesterday was very helpful.  He gave me some good insights into what I'm doing that's causing so much anxiety.  For me, a control freak, the lack of control is a big issue.  And I try to "plan ahead".  I'm worried about all kinds of things that are in the future and that I can't control.  The trick is to stop myself when I'm doing that and remind myself to deal with TODAY and what I can control NOW.   I actually felt better yesterday than I have in a while, so it was a helpful thing.

    So, that being said, why the heck can't I sleep?  DH and I were watching TV last night and I could hardly keep my eyes open.  So I go to bed at 10:00 and lie awake.  Finally, about 1:30 I took a Xanax figuring it would sedate me a bit and maybe I'd sleep.  So I slept from maybe about 2:00 until about 5:00.  Trying to live on 3 hours sleep ain't gonna do it for me?

    My treatment day is on Thursday (1 down, 11 to go), so I don't think I can blame the steroids.... they'd be out of my system by now, right?  Maybe it's the Lexapro.  I've only been on it about 10 days and one of the side effects listed is insomnia. 

    Whatever, I'll be taking a sleeping pill tonight.  I worry about becoming dependent on them, but I need some sleep.  The days are long enough right now, I don't need long nights and feeling like a zombie all day.

    ..... what a mess this all is!

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    I've been having sleeping issues the past week or so as well.  I'm SO tired but I can't fall asleep.  When I do fall asleep I wake up again & start over.  I've got sleeping pills but I'm afraid to take them because of my kids - what if they wake up in the night & need me?  Hubby sleeps right through it when they cry.  I think I might just have to take one anyway tonight, I really need a good night sleep.

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    I also have had sleeping issues that seem to coinside with my treatments.  For a couple days after treatment I feel so tired...but then sometimes can't fall asleep or stay asleep.  Now that I'm teaching during treatments though, I will say that sleeping is usually not a problem for me...I'm so exhausted that I sleep pretty well.  I go for my last treatment of Taxotere on Thursday...then I will officially be half-way done with chemo.  However, now I have to wait to see how much worse/different I feel when I start A/C in October...that makes me a little nervous.  I did decide to take the Friday after treatment off completely from teaching though, starting with this treatment.  It was really hard to teach the next day...I really didn't think that I was going to make it last time.

    Abbi...glad to hear that the therapist helped!  Hope everybody is able to get some sleep. 

  • liven42day
    liven42day Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2007

    Hi Girls,

    Well I had my 1st Taxol yesterday, no allergic reaction......WooHoo! I was scared to death because I am allergic to many things. The nurse gave me my premeds and sat with me for a half hour and then sped it up with no reaction. I had taken 20 mg decadron at 10pm, then 20mg at 4 am, then the premeds.

    Abbi I agree (sleep in the chair) yeah right...........lol

    I slept about 3-4 hours last nite and I took Lunesta, oh well tonite is another night. I have not taken the compazine but have'nt had any nuasea yet.

     Today my fingertips started burning and hurting, so my daughter took me to Vitamin World and I bought some B-6 and L-Glutamine powder. It worked within 1 hour, neuropathy pain is gone. I had asked chemo nurse yesterday about it and she said I could take B-6, she never heard about the L-Glutamine.

    I am hoping and praying the bone and muscle pain is not to bad, they said that should start tomorrow, I usually get it in my lower back from Neulasta the day after my shot.

    Everyone take care, let me know if you are having the bone pain or neuropathy se's, how long it lasts etc.

    Take Care, Prayers Charlene

  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    Charlene - Are you doing the 4 Taxol or the 12?  I'm doing the 12 and I can honestly say that I've had no neuropathy, nausea or bone/muscle pain.  My only side effect is the darn insomnia.... and I'm not sure where that's coming from.

    Took my Restoil at 10:00, was out by 10:30 and up a little before 5:00.  6 1/2 hours.... guess I can't complain about that.  I'm still tired, but I think the fatigue of treatments doesn't get cured by sleep anyway.  At least for that 6 1/2 hours I'm able to "escape" from cancer.  That in itself is a blessing.  There's nothing worse than lying awake in the middle of the night for me. 

    Taxol #2/12 tomorrow....counting them down!

  • liven42day
    liven42day Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2007

    Hi Abbi,

    I am doing 4 dd Taxol. I slept for 6 hours last night (10pm-4am), I think the decadron has worn off. Wake up but fall right back to sleep. From 4am -6am I tried sleeping on the couch in the wreck room but not much sleep. yes I am tired of counting ceiling tiles in the middle of the night.

    I have had no nausea, and haven't taken anything for it, hopefully I won't get any like A/C. 

    Do you get the Neulasta shot weekly after taxol?

    I have alot of back and shoulder pain for 2 days after Neulasta.

    Take Care, prayers, Charlene

  • figsgirls
    figsgirls Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2007

    Hi everyone. Well, I had Taxol #3 on Monday and am feeling great still today. After my first Taxol, my eyes were really watery, but that seems to have gone away. I haven't had any neuropathy. Last week my red count was low so I got a shot (don't remember what it was), and a few days later my lower back was a little achy. But that has been it! Oh and of course the fatigue and the sleep disruption. Who could forget that???

    When I saw the NP last week for a check, she emphasized the importance of "restorative sleep", and encouraged me to try a sleeping pill, but I just can't stand the thought of adding more chemicals! She suggested over the counter Tylenol PM or Benedryl as alternatives.

    Charlene, at my chemo place they said they don't give the Neulasta with Taxol. They said it isn't necessary and there are other things they can give. I did have it the day after each A/C and it always gave me pain in the bones of my face! It's interesting how each onc. does things a little differently. I'm still amazed at those of you who take the Decadron prior to each tx.

    Ginger - GLAD to hear that what you've been feeling is nothing to worry about. What a relief for you!! And Abbi, hooray for therapy! We gotta do what we gotta do to get through this, right?

    So is anybody gaining weight? I'm up 10 pounds since my surgery in June. Probably 6 pounds since I started chemo. I hate it! The running is getting harder and harder to keep up, so I'm trying to be sure to get out and walk every day. We'll see how Pilates goes tonight. The first night we didn't do much more than learn how to breathe Pilates style, which made me dizzy.

    Donna

  • Gagal
    Gagal Member Posts: 42
    edited September 2007

    Charlene,

    I'm doing the DD Taxol, last one on Oct 8, yea!  I've been lucky no bone pain, (I only took neulasta shot after first Taxol since my counts looked good Dr. stopped it for rest, and I think that is why I've felt so good).  I do have some tingling in fingertips hope it's not permanent maybe I'll give the vitamins a shot.  Continued good luck with the Taxol.

    Pat

  • TINAMAE
    TINAMAE Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2007

    Abbey, I noticed you are triple neg like me has your Dr said anything about it as far as being a bad thing, my Dr says its just a biology thing and it really doesnt mean anything not to worry, anyone been told anything.

    Thanks Tina

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    Hi Tina...my surgeon didn't ever say anything about it being a bad thing to me.  There are so many "unknowns" with breast cancer...it's crazy.  Drs really don't know what causes it at all.  Abbi...saw on your profile that you did the genetic testing and you were negative.  All of my drs have given me the whole "benefits of genetic testing" talk since I have a family history and me being so young.  I just am not sold on it...what's the point in knowing?  That's my take on it.  I know that you are at greater risk for developing it if you have the mutated gene...but obviously I'm already at risk since I have it!  What kills me is that some people test positive for the gene...yet never get breast cancer.  Chemo #4 tomorrow...half way done!

  • gshoemate
    gshoemate Member Posts: 190
    edited September 2007

    Hello all.  Well neulasta is kicking my butt again...I think it's worse then the chemo.  And I got less then half a dose.  But thank goodness I won't need to have it for my last treatment so no more neulasta for me!!!

    Abbi, so glad you went to thearpy.  I may be joining you if I can't get out of my funk that i'm in.

    Tina - when my FISH results came back showing that my HER2 was negative and I mentioned the words "triple negative", my onco. was not happy.  He explained that it isn't a bad thing and that triple negatives respond better to chemo.  All I can do is put my trust in him.

    Donna - I'm jealous that you have the energy to run and do pilates:)  I so need to get back to the gym....it took me 3 years of hard work to get my muscle's toned and it took 3 months to lose it.  Maybe i'll attempt some yoga this weekend.

    Everyone else....hang in there.  We can do this, we have come this far...we're closer to the end of chemo then we are the beginning.  Lets all be proud!!!!

    Ginger

  • TINAMAE
    TINAMAE Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2007

    Thanks girls,I feel better  I will be having my surgery in about 3 weeks , I am so glad to be done with the ac next is taxol after surgery.

  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    Abbey -

    Regarding the genetic testing.  It's very easy... just a little blood test but expensive ($3500 of which I had to pay $440).  If you DO have the gene mutation, your chances of recurrance go up substantially and some gals choose the option of a bi-lateral. 

    The kicker for me was that the same gene mutation also shows up as ovarian cancer.  If I had the gene, I would be having a hysterectomy.  No history of ovarian in my family, but they all had gyn problems and hystos before they were 40.  I'm 44 and done having babies, so losing my ovaries doesn't bother me.

      

    You're very young and still need those ovaries! 

    In my case, I'm SURE there's a genetic connection.... science just hasn't found our connection yet.  But maternal grandmother, mother and me.... all in our mid-40s..... that can't just be co-incidence.

    Just some thoughts for you to ponder.

    Getting ready to take my Decadron in 4 hours (along with a sleeping pill)!... Taxol #2 tomorrow (10 more to go.....)

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