I am starting chemo in July 07. Anyone else?

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  • rspayne
    rspayne Member Posts: 49
    edited September 2007

    Chemo for me tomorrow.  It will be number 4 of 6 (taxotere, Cytoxin, and Adrimyacin).  Tomorrow I will be 2/3 finished with my treatment.  Day one and two are usually ok, but day 3 and 4 are generally hellish.  I am taking decadron today and it gets me crazy and also a weird, bad taste in my mouth.  Guess I cannot complain, as this week was very good.  I got to all of my son's high school soccer matches and took pictures for the booster club to boot.  I took my youngest son clothes shopping and went with the family to the county fair, last night.

    Tomorrow it will be back to square one and time to face whatever side effects are thrown my way.  Only 2 more after tomorrow.  My patience is wearing thin.

    All of you who have or are shortly going to move on to taxol...way to go, I'm jealsous as I still have three more yucky treatments.  My best to you all,   Rose

  • liven42day
    liven42day Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2007

    Hi Ladies, Good Luck Everyone on their chemo this week! We will all get thru this, it is so nice to know we are not alone in our fight to beat the beast. Your in my thoughts and prayers.

     Take Care all Charlene

  • lori5
    lori5 Member Posts: 75
    edited September 2007

    good luck girls tomorrow i go for my third tx.  i hope they give it to me not sure because of my stay in hospital.  i just want to keep going and get through this.  i figure third time has to be a charm (isn't that they old saying) lol.  I'll try to check in but usually in bed for 7-8 days yuk.  hugs & prayers lori

  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    Thinking about all of you doing treatments today.  Hang tough!

    Rose - I'll have to take Decadron 10:00 pm/6:00 am on each day before my Taxol treatments.  I'm almost more afraid of the Decadron than the Taxol!  Onc has warned me that it's like a really strong cup of coffee.  Just great.  I have trouble sleeping anyway.

    My patience has worn very thin for all of this as well.  And I ain't done for 13 more weeks!  Luckily, my DH is a very supportive person.  He puts up with all my rants and tears.  I suppose I'm a real pain in the rear these days.  He's a saint!

    It may be my imagination, but I believe that the stubble on my head is getting longer.  No sign of any new growth, but the few hairs that didn't fall out seem to be coming alive.  The onc. says my hair will start coming back during the Taxol.  Of course, the same guy also told me that my periods would stop and they just keep on coming every month!

    I'm so glad we have this forum.  Sometimes I feel very alone and it's comforting to know that we are all here for each other.

    Have a good day, everyone! 

  • liven42day
    liven42day Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2007

    HI Ladies,

    Rose and Lori, Good Luck on your tx's today, I will be thinking of both of you as I get marinated also, last A/C, 4x Taxol to go. Lori I hope you are and keep feeling good. Rose I am glad you got to go to all of your son's games.

    Do you guys have anxiety about going to the tx room, like I do?  Guess we all know what our s/e's will be for a few days. Well take care all! Your in my thoughts and prayers!

    Take Care Charlene

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    I am still pretty new to this discussion board, but I wanted to say how awesome it is to come and read what everybody is going through each day. It helps me to get through things, so thanks ladies! I finally started feeling better today...I had a pretty yucky weekend after treatment on Thursday. I am starting to realize that the fatigue is cummulative. But as long as I am not nauseated or sick...I will not complain too much about the fatigue. Hope those who had treatment today did alright.

  • figsgirls
    figsgirls Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2007

    Hello everyone! I got my first Taxol today! 1 down, 11 to go! Yeesh. The end still seems a looooooooong way away.Frown It wasn't bad, though. They gave me Benedryl in the IV and they said it would make me sleep through the treatment, but it didn't. Which was actually good because my daughter drove me and decided to stay. She went out and got us lunch, then we alternated chatting with reading. It was really nice to have her company. Although she had to turn away when the nurse put the needle in my port, because she is hugely needle phobic. She arranged her college classes and her work schedule to have Mondays free to be my ride, because the chemo nurses said I HAVE to have a ride because of the Benedryl. Right now I feel perfectly fine, but a little sleepy. NOTHING like I felt after an A/C treatment: no fuzziness in the head, no headache, no yucky feeling in the stomach. So, although it is only day 1, the Taxol really does seem to be easier than A/C. Hooray! I'm going to try to get out and run tomorrow. OK who am I fooling - it will be a jog/walk.

    Abbi - my hair is growing back also. I asked the chemo nurse if it would continue to grow through the Taxol and she said no, it will fall out along with my brows and lashes. I was sad! I hope your onc is right and mine is wrong! But they did say it is OK to wear false eyelashes. I hope the Taxol goes well for you, too, so maybe it won't cut too much into all the stuff with your kids.

    I can't imagine what it would be like to do this if I had young kids (DD is 20 and my only child). You ladies with kids rock for keeping it together.

    Rose, Lori, Charlene - you all had tx today as well? I hope it wasn't too bad for any of you.

    Well, let's all keep on 'truckin!

    Donna

    P.S. Abbey - glad you got Emend. It's the greatest thing ever for nausea.

  • jbw3843
    jbw3843 Member Posts: 46
    edited September 2007

    Abbey, yes I always take Friday off after treatment on Thursday afternoon. My energy level is high for the first half of the day and I gradually poop out in the afternoon. I'm lucky that my teaching load is in the early part of the day while the afternoon is mostly plan period and team time. If you have the sick days, I'd recommend taking the Friday off and let yourself slightly recover over the weekend. Now that I'd have the 3 AC, I pretty much know what to expect.

    Good luck to all ladies in treatment this week.

    Jane 

  • gshoemate
    gshoemate Member Posts: 190
    edited September 2007

    Hi all, hope everyone is having a good week.  Well, taxol #2 down and 2 to go...woo hoo.  So far I feel good.  I take the decodran also 4 hours before chemo and also in my premeds but it hasn't affected my sleeping at all.  It's those darn night sweats that wake me up.  So far no side effects except eating like a horse which is a good thing.  I gained 2 pounds since my last treatment.  I go in for my neulesta shot this afternoon which will kick my butt.  I get terrible migrains and soreness from it.  But after today, only 2 more to go.

    I did ask my onco. a few things yesterday regarding how do we know if chemo is working.  His response was that as far as we know right now, i'm in remission.  After treatment they will track my progress with tumor markers.  I asked about removing my other breast and he said we wouldn't do that until we decided on getting genetic testing which I need to do some research on.  And he also said I could get my port removed 3 weeks after treatment!!!  woo hoo.  I would prefer to keep it just a bit longer in case of the unknow but he said it could cause issue if left in so it is safer to take out and we can easily (easy for him to say) put it back in if needed.  So, I have some things to think about yet. 

    Best of luck to everyone this week and I hope everyone getting treatments this week can do so with little side effects as possible.

     Ginger

  • figsgirls
    figsgirls Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2007

    Ginger and Abbi - You both mentioned taking Decadron before your Taxol tx. My onc. never mentioned that. hmmm... although today is day #2 of my first Taxol and I still feel perfect. I get Decadron and something else in the infusion.

    And Ginger, how was the Race for the Cure? I hope you enjoyed your trip.

    Donna

    Donna

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    So I was supposed to get chemo #3 yesterday, but after hanging around for 3 hours waiting for an answer they decided not to go ahead due to low white count.  It was a letdown, having even a few more days added to the length of this but I know it's for a good reason.  We're going to try again Thursday.  Has anyone else had a chemo delayed for this?  My count needed to be 1.5 & it was .9.  I hope it doesn't continue to be an issue with future treatments.

    Margie

  • liven42day
    liven42day Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2007

    Hi Margie, Are you getting the Neulasta shot after each of your chemo's? I am just wondering because I have been getting them after each tx and my wbc's are still dropping everytime. Nothing to worry about yet, I hope your wbc comes up quickly so you can get on with tx and get it over with.

    Hi Ginger and Donna, Congrats on feeling great after Taxol! I am chicken but with your help I know I can do it. 

    My Onc gave me a prescription yesterday for decadron before my 1 st Taxol 9/24. I have to take 5 pills (4mg each) at 10 pm then wake up at 4 AM and take 5 more pills day of Taxol, does anyone know of this? It seems like alot to me, then the nurse mentioned taking Zantac along with the last 5 decadron.

    Waiting to feel like being hit by a truck tonite or tomorrow........

    Take Care All, Charlene

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    No Charlene, I haven't been getting Neulasta.  My onc never mentioned it.  Maybe now that my wbc's were an issue?  I don't know.  I'm feeling so down today, I just pray they're where they need to be Thursday.

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    Margie...I can't believe your onc didn't give you a shot of Neulasta when you couldn't receive treatment.  That happened to me once...my wbc was .7, so I couldn't get my day 8 treatment of Gemzar.  I was lucky though, since it wasn't my main treatment, I didn't have to make it up. Since then, I give myself shots of Neupogen for 5 days following my day 1 treatment, and then I go for a shot of Neulasta after my day 8 treatment that lasts me until my next chemo cycle.  You NEED to ask about that ASAP! Stay strong honey...you are in my prayers!

    Charlene...I take decadron (2 pills in am and pm) for three days, starting the day before I get my Taxotere treatment.

    Hope everybody that had treatment is doing ok.

    P.S. I lifted weights for the first time today in about 2 months...it felt so good to be able to do it...even though I was pretty weak. I will be sore tomorrow, that's for sure!

  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    Charlene - I'll be doing basically the same thing with the Decadron 10pm and 6am are my times.  I've been warned by the onc. that it is similar to a strong cup of coffee, so I don't plan on getting much sleep on Wednesday nights (Thursdays will be my treatment days each week starting 9/20).  Onc. says if I don't have any bad reaction to the Taxol we can cut it down to 2 or 3 pills rather than the 5. 

    Fatigue is really getting to me.  Same thing happened last time after my A/C.  I was doing alright until about day 13 or 14 and "boom", it's like I've hit a wall.  Unfortunately, I'm still not sleeping well.  I can't remember the last time I didn't feel exhausted.

    Oh well, sometime this just HAS to end, right?  I've been forcing myself to take a little walk every morning as exercise.  I was never much of an exercise person, but I'm trying!

    Going out antiquing with my mother today.  That should pretty much wipe me out.  But at least it gets me out of the house and gives me something to do.  I'm too exhausted to do much, but the boredom of not doing anything is getting to me.  A real double-edged sword.... 

    Hope all you gals who got "marinated" the last couple of days are doing well.

    Good to hear that first weekly Taxol was ok for you, Donna.  One week to go before I start mine.  I'm just ready to get going and deal with it, KWIM?

    Have a great day, everyone

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    I had a scare last night.  I got a fever of over 38 & had to go to the er.  Fun stuff!  I was nervous because I knew my counts were low.  It turned out to not be bacterial, so that was a relief.  I came home and after a good night sleep feel fine.  On the plus side, when they checked my blood my wbc was 6.5 already.  I'm praying treatment goes ahead tomorrow as scheduled!

    Margie

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    Does anyone know how to enter a signature in this new format?

  • TINAMAE
    TINAMAE Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2007

    Well ladies I have one more ac and then my surgery and then  4 weeks after my surgery I will have to have 4 taxols anyone know if this is better than the ac, and since my hair seems to be trying to grow back will this affect it.

    Thanks Tina

  • figsgirls
    figsgirls Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2007

    Hi everyone. It seems that all of you who are on Taxol are taking Decadron before your tx day! I am not doing that, and my onco never mentioned such a thing. Interesting how they all do something a little different. But I get the Decadron in my IV, and it sure does affect my sleep (so I know what you mean, Abbi). Tuesday night I fell asleep fine, then woke up at 3am and couldn't get back to sleep. Finally at 6:30 I fell asleep for a while. Then I felt lousy all day Wednesday from lack of sleep. Fortunately, last night I slept all the way through. I feel like celebrating when that happens!

    Margie, I got a Neulasta shot the day after each of my A/C treatments and my white count was always good. I hated the shot, though. It always made me feel like crap for a couple of days. But at least I was able to stay on schedule, so I guess it was worth it. I hope you were able to get your treatment today.

    TinaMae, I am finding Taxol to be WAY easier than the A/C was!!!

    And Charlene - I see you are from East Stroudsburg. My husband and I ran the Pocono Mountain Marathon this past May! 3 days before my lumpectomy! Tobyhanna to Stroudsburg or East Stroudsburg I believe. Can't exactly remember - the chemobrain again... but I do remember we spent a long weekend and had a great time. It was beautiful there.

    Is anyone on Taxol having issues with a runny nose and watery eyes? Don't know if it's the Taxol or seasonal allergies but Claritin didn't seem to do a thing. But my worst problem right now seems to be that I am in a complete funk over the way I look. My eyebrows are thin, but when I use a powder or a brow pencil, I feel like I look like Groucho Marx! and I feel pasty and I'm sick of not having hair!!!!!!!!!! Then the chemo nurse said my eyelashes and the rest of my brows will fall out on the Taxol, which made me feel even worse! I am trying to be positive but it is hard sometimes.

    I am going to go to the nursery and get some stuff to start an herb garden. Gotta get out of the house, and planting stuff makes me feel better.

    Take care everyone.

    Donna

    P.S. I don't know how to do the signature, and another thing - whatever happened to the proofreading function??

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    No chemo today either, counts still sucked.  They scheduled me to try yet again Monday.  I'm getting so discouraged.  My 1 year old is sick and I can't take him to the doctor because of germs.  I'm not even supposed to go near him.  How can I do that?  He's a sick baby, he wants his mommy.  Did I mention how much I hate cancer? :(

  • lthigpen143
    lthigpen143 Member Posts: 45
    edited September 2007

    My 4th and LAST A/C is Wednesday the 19th but I am not feeling great and am worried that I am going to find out that my wbc is too low.  I REALLY want to get this over with.  I still have radiation and hormone therapy ahead of me once I finish chemo but I know that my path is a lot less difficult than many of you.

    So here is my struggle (please give me your opinion if you have one):

    I was planning to go to DC tomorrow to visit my college student daughter.  Visits with her feed my soul and I have been looking forward to it BUT I am feeling pretty worn out and the drive is 5 hours each way.  Do I risk getting more run down?  AURG!  I am so tired of having cancer get between me and my life!

    Also - I was rinsing my mouth with salt water every day at first but stopped a couple of weeks ago.  Now I have some strange and painful ulcers in my mouth (inside bottom lip)Yell

    I have been pretty positive through all of this up until now but I must say that I am getting tired of being a good sport about this. 

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    I'd say if you feel up to the 5 hr drive...and you know it's going to lift your spirits to see your daughter, you should go.  But, if you don't...you gotta listen to your body.  Family helps the spirit...that's for sure!  I don't know what I'd do without my mom, dad, and sisters who live close by :)

    Had my day 8 treatment of Gemzar today...and I think I'm going to do a little experiment tonight and tomorrow and see what happens if I don't take my anti-nausea pill.  It makes me feel so sleepy and out of it.  I'd never think of trying it with my big treatments on day 1...but this one is just one drug and it was small.  Plus they give me anti-nausea drugs through iv before the actual chemo...so I think I'll give it a try.

    About the signature...it's under your profile....one of the steps takes you to it. 

    Try not to get discouraged ladies...keep your chins up!  Cancer blows...but we're getting closer to the end everyday.

  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    Seems like we're all having our challenges this week.  I'm just so darn tired, but sleep like crap.  And the depression is getting to me.

    Finally decided Wed night (about 1:30 am) that I was ready to try a different anti-depressent.  I had tried Paxil back in May and it was a BAD experience.  So talked to onc and she prescribed me a small dose of Zoloft which she said is traditionally the most tolerable.  So last night I took a nice big breath and swollowed the sucker down.  Up at 3:00 a.m. with my head in the toilet.  Oh well.... I just can't take these things.  Took a compazine which is helping with the nausea, but I can barely keep my eyes open.

    Of course, I don't want to nap now because I'm afraid I won't sleep at night...... it's a never ending downward spiral.  No wonder I'm so depressed.

    I'm going to go close my eyes.... there's no stopping it at the moment!

    Cancer bites!

  • liven42day
    liven42day Member Posts: 76
    edited September 2007

    Hi ladies,

    It seems as alot of us are half way thru or close to half way and are depressed (me too). But just think girls WE ARE HALF WAY THRU! We have got to keep our chins up and beat the beast! I had a lady call me yesterday that I met in chemo, she is 5 weeks done and feels GREAT! Something for us all to look forward too. I know we are all going to do this and coming here to vent really helps. I know I cannot inspire everyone but I can try, right? 

    Everyone have a GREAT weekend!

    Take care Charlene

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    Excellent point Charlene, most of us are half way through!  I will be after I get my bleeping wbc back up & I can get this round over with.  I was telling my hubby last night I think I've been very positive about this whole ordeal and continue to be so, but it's impossible to stay that way 100% of the time.  To try to pretend I am wouldn't be true to my feelings.  When I'm feeling low I let myself feel that way, cry, scream, whatever I feel like.  If I held it in I would snap. 

    Remind yourselves how much you've gotten through already in this process.  It's amazing really what we have overcome already.  We are all strong women who will get past these bumps in the road.  Do whatever you feel up to, try to stay connected to real life.  That's what helps me the most when I'm down.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2007

    Has anyone had TC for pre-op chemo, then TAC after their mast?



    I had my last TC 2 weeks ago, and still feel terrible. My surgery will be Sept 26, little over a week. I think the chemo was a waste of valuable time as it appears my cance rmay have spread. I change Onc 3 weeks ago. He said I should have had surgery first then chemo. Then mentioned the additional tumors, that my former onc never told me about. (I had a PET/CT before starting chemo...but she would not explain the results. When I saw my BS, he aslo addressed the tumors under my arm. I think they both thought I knew.

  • mmcp
    mmcp Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2007

    Oh no Jean, I'm so sorry to hear you may have more tumors.  I'm having chemo first, this is really scary to hear.  Did they tell you why they decided to do chemo first?  I never got details from any of my scans, they just said they looked fine.  Now I'm worried.

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    Hey Jean...glad to hear that you changed your onc...I can't believe they didn't give you all of your info/options that you had.  I am doing Neoadjuvant chemo (chemo first to shrink my tumor), then having my lumpectomy & lymph node disection (they biopsied one very large lymph node and it came back positive), then I'll have radiation for 6 weeks.  I'm basically getting TAC right now with a couple of "experimental" chemo drugs added along with it for a clinical study that I decided to be a part of (B-40).  Have you asked your new onc about this?  Why you were not informed?  That's terrible.  Good luck with the surgery in 2 weeks.

  • LottaQuilts
    LottaQuilts Member Posts: 212
    edited September 2007

    (((Jean)))  Seems like you weren't getting the best information from your first onc.  It's very frustrating when they keep you out of the loop.  I probably drive my onc. crazy.  I'm always looking up information (too much sometimes - one of the reasons I'm making myself crazy) and asking questions. 

    My onc. called this afternoon with yet another antidepressent to try.  We're giving Lexapro a try.  Apparently, it has the mildest side effects.  It's also somewhat expensive, which is why she was reluctant to try it.   But hey.... like the Loreal ad says, I'm worth it right?

    I'll keep you all updated on the results.  Ever feel like a guinea pig?

  • brst26
    brst26 Member Posts: 155
    edited September 2007

    Margie...are you going to have a lumpectomy or mastectomy for surgery after your chemo is done?  How big was your tumor?  Do you have any known lymph nodes involved?

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