Starting Chemo in May 07

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  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited August 2007
    Hey Everyone,

    I still have the stubble that I had when I shaved the first time which was about 3 months ago. The new hair is growing in right past all the stubble. Should I shave off the old stubble and start over on the new hair growth? I don't think the old stuff is going anywhere.

    Tonight I'm going out for those champagne cocktails! Enjoy your weekend!
  • Lorain
    Lorain Member Posts: 68
    edited August 2007
    Hi, everyone! I just had my last Taxol on Wed. of this past week, also! So nice to be done, but still dealing with the neuropathy and bone aches.

    Lizy - I had bilat mast in April. I hadn't seen the onc soon enough or else he would have had me do the A/C before surgery then Taxol, like you. But it was scheduled for 2 days later, so... I had skin-sparing masts with tissue expanders. Skin-sparing means they save as much skin as possible which makes your new breasts (with implants) seem more like yours! The tissue ex caused some pain, but I really think they are the way to go. Now I'm doing my expansions...one a week for about 6 weeks. The rad doc said you can wait up to 16 weeks after chemo before starting radiation, so I have plenty of time. I do plan on starting rads in mid-Oct through Nov. Usual treatment is 33, I think. Also, I had sentinel node biopsies...they took 2 neg. nodes on rt. and 7 neg. nodes on left. I never had any trouble moving my arm. I had almost full movement right from the beginning. The less nodes the better.

    We'll all be thinking of you next week...you'll do fine.

    Congrats to all of you who are now finished with chemo! My husband and I also shared a bottle of champagne! (Even though it didn't taste too good!) Looking forward to continuing our saga through rads and reconstruction!

    Lorain
  • Lorain
    Lorain Member Posts: 68
    edited August 2007
    Hi again! I forgot to say I will be taking Arimidex for 5 years.

    Lorain
  • chemo072
    chemo072 Member Posts: 682
    edited August 2007
    Quote:

    Amy
    My other one was the onc from Hell, I have seen her only 2 times since I started chemo 5 weeks ago. (Yes, that also means no blood test this cycles, not even WBC, as she felt checking WBC... not important... until I go for tx #3. Oh if I developed a fever then I should call her. She also refused to answer any questions, including why she changed my tx from 3 to 6, or why I am having severe chest pains...understand why I changed?




    Jean - I am SO GLAD you switched oncs, that sounds like a terrible experience - WTH???? Oh my, so sory you had to go through that.
  • VirginiaNJ
    VirginiaNJ Member Posts: 634
    edited August 2007
    Hey Liz...my sister shaved my head on Memorial Day...there was residual stubble that I never shaved... I think I might have about a 1/4 inch (at least that's what I'm hoping it is). I don't know if the stubble started to grow or if new hairs pushed it out... I wouldn't worry about it... Just let the new stuff come in...

    I did my treatment backwards, so I had my radiation already... PIA b/c you have to go every day, but DEFINITELY way way way easier than chemo. I had 28 treatments plus 5 boosts for a total of 33. Went M-F, but didn't get treated if there was a holiday... LOL They are so strict with you about not missing a day, but if a government holiday falls during radiation, it is apparently ok to miss a treatment.

    V
  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited August 2007
    Jean, I totally agree with Amya--I'm glad you had the wherewithal to change oncs in the middle of treatment. That's hideous! For such an important doctor, you REALLY want to feel like they're your advocate, you know? So good for you! Yes, I have a pump for anti-nausea meds after each chemo. See, my first 2 tx's I couldn't stop throwing up, even WITH Emend, IV anti-nausea, decadron, ativan and compazine, and had to go to the ER both times. So after for the 3rd tx we added the pump, I take Marinol (synthetic marijuana) IV fluids for the 3 days following chemo, and kept Emend. For as long as I'm on the Marinol I'm a complete zombie and feel HORRIFIC, but it keeps me from throwing up. My onc says I'm his worst case for nausea/vomiting in a very LOOOOOOONG time. What a distinction!! But I can't tell you how GLAD I am to have had my last tx!! WAHOO!!! Even if I still feel like crud and could do almost NOTHING today but lie in bed, I know it can only go up from here.

    Mandy, I'm not getting any taxanes (since I'm a violinist they didn't want to risk the neuropathy with me) but I still get plenty of Decadron! I know a lot of people like the energy it gives, but I find it annoying and feel sort of jittery on it. My onc even said I didn't have to take any orally this time, since I'm getting that in my pump also.

    Not too much else to report here. Time to get horizontal again--when I sit up for too long I get kind of lightheaded and nauseated again. Oh yeah, I noticed in my post about rads that I said my appt. with that dr. would be Tuesday. See, I WAS out of it!! It's not til Friday. Virginia, thanks for reassuring me that rads is easier than chemo!!

    Amy
  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited August 2007
    Hey Traci,

    I'm trying to find the very first episodes of Lost on ABC.com, but I'm not succeeding. Can you explain where they are? I hate starting things in the middle!

    Amy
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited August 2007
    I haven't cried much at all since the first few weeks after my diagnosis in April. Then all of a sudden, the last two nights, I cry over nothing and once I get started I just can't stop. I really didn't think I was nervous about the surgery, but there's something going on with my emotions that I don't seem to have control of. It may be denial, or it may be chemo-pause, but I think it's my subconscious trying to work things out. I know you all probably understand better than I do.

    OK. Rant is done. Time to go accomplish something positive before the day is over!
  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited August 2007
    (((((Liz)))))

    I'm feeling it, girl. The LAYERS of this whole experience just never end, do they? Now that chemo is done I'm starting to enter that "What if it comes back" thing that we hear so much about. Cried to DH today about how I want my kids to have their mom for a long time. I think you're VERY smart in your thoughts about the subconscious. It's just rough, sweetie, and it's OK to cry. I have hope that one day we'll be past this to the point where it's not a daily struggle of some sort. And that when that time comes we can take all the lessons we've learned and only carry THOSE around, instead of the fear and physical yuck (and an anti-nausea pump, LOL!!!--I get so tired of carrying that thing everywhere!)

    Hang in there,

    Amy
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2007
    Liz, I'll bet the surgery is more on your mind than you realize. I have a minor procedure on the 20th of September and it wasn't even on my radar during chemo - but now that that's done, I'm starting to think "holy cow - I have to be put out and cut into again..." and this is nothing in comparison to your procedure. I'm not saying that to make you worry about YOUR procedure - I really do believe all will be fine for you but I guess the point is - it's the next step and now it's time to start to deal with the emotions that the next step brings. Also, your body has been through hell and the hormones are probably playing a part too. Plus - this whole thing is so very scary and I find, somnetimes quite surreal. I can't believe that I am "tainted" now. I will always be a person who had cancer (hopefully heavy on the "had") and I am different from everyone else now - that sucks! When it really sinks in - it's a real mind****! Finally, you must be feeling some grief over your upcoming surgery. Whatever the reason, please know that I am sending you cyber hugs and understanding/empathy and wishes for a good evening and tomorrow being a better day.

    Take care,
    Mandy

    Hope everyone else is doing well too. Amy - when do you ge the pump removed? What a happy day that will be huh?
  • chemo072
    chemo072 Member Posts: 682
    edited August 2007
    Mandy - I'm the same way....thinking that with getting the port out I'm going to get cut YET AGAIN, and hoping to goodness that the endometrial hyperplasia biopsy (again, minor ouch) doesn't turn into the need for a D&C....major ouch. I think that the feeling is - I had a mastectomy, NO MORE CUTTING. But then there's plastic surgery etc..... So, have to come to terms with it.

    (((((((Liz))))))) - remember when I said I had to take Xanax in the days before my mast.? I was fundamentally freaked out. But, it's surgery to get rid of cancer, surgery to save your life. Life's more important. Big hugs, and let those feelings out....the only way through this is through it, there's no shortcuts or go-arounds....
  • PDXLeeAnne
    PDXLeeAnne Member Posts: 119
    edited August 2007
    (((((((Liz))))))))

    We've all had those days when the tears won't stop. This whole thing IS so hard, and just when you think you have a handle on one issue, something else comes up. Just let it out.

    It is so true. The only way out of this is through it.

    Hugs,
    LeeAnne
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2007
    LeeAnne and Amy - your very good advice reminded me of a poem a co-worker wrote in a get well card for me just after my first surgery...it's kinda hokey but I liked it anyways:

    "Can't go over it,
    Can't go under it,
    Have to go through it.

    You're a strong individual
    You can do it!"

    This was her mantra as she overcame alcoholism and said the silly little poem gave her strength to face each day.

    Hugs to all!
    Mandy
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited August 2007

    Thanks everyone. This really helps to talk about and hear all of your advice.

  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited August 2007
    You guys are all the BEST.

    Amy (at 3:54am on a steroid insomnia trip)
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited August 2007
    Amy, isn't it nice to have this group to visit at o'dark thirty when insomnia hits for whatever reason.

    (at 5:00 am after being woken by night sweats--for the second time tonight)
  • VirginiaNJ
    VirginiaNJ Member Posts: 634
    edited August 2007
    Liz, you ARE strong!! You sound like me in so many ways... You feel like you are ok and handling things, then the wheels fall off... Let it all out and let your loved ones hold you up... You know your sister's here will always be around for moral support.

    You having a HUGE deal of a surgery...but you will prevail! Like we all are doing...we'll kick this danged cancer's butt...

    Amy, I know what you mean about those what if it comes back thoughts. I finished my chemo 2 months ago and I hate myself for thinking about the "big C" every single day... Can't help it. I really feel a prisoner of it... Waited every day since I was 17 for it to come...and it did...and now I'll worry every day for it to come back! ARGH!!!!

    Best wishes and good karma to all!!!

    V
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2007
    hello everyone!
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    Glad to hear you're doing okay Liz - we are here for you!
    Amy - how are you doing (besides awake at crazy hours of the night!)
    LeeAnne - how are you doing?

    To everyone else - have a wonderful day!!!
    Mandy
  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited August 2007
    GIRLS!!! I'm so excited!! Guess what I did today?!! For me this was a HUGE step in just STARTING To feel normal again. Drumroll........I reopened my Ebay store!!!! If you want to see, you can visit it here (esp if you have kids to clothe and shod, LOL!):

    http://stores.ebay.com/Through-the-Wardrobe

    THanks for asking, about me, Mandy. I had the pump taken off today, if for no other reason than to rid myself of the steroids--UGH! I didn't sleep til 6 am this morning and I've had just about enough of that, thank you! Nausea hasn't been TOO bad--just a little this afternoon and Ativan took care of it. I'm pretty drained and tired still, but it will get better each day, I know. I have to remember NOT to OVERDO. I almost went out to a store today, just because I'm so sick of being in the house, but DH said to wait til tomorrow and I think he was right. I would have just set myself back, I think. I'll go tomorrow.

    Still feeling pretty emotional over here, but just trying to walk through it and trust God. I had a lovely bath today, and asked Him to walk with me through everything that is still ahead.

    All for now,

    Amy
  • PDXLeeAnne
    PDXLeeAnne Member Posts: 119
    edited August 2007
    I'm hanging in there, thanks for asking Mandy. Darvocet is doing a good job with my Taxol pain although I don't take it as often as I could. I've had houseguests since last Wednesday and they are all leaving tomorrow a.m. so it will be quiet. Hopefully I won't get too sad.

    Today was better than yesterday though, so we're on the mend, slowly but surely.

    LeeAnne
  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited August 2007
    Hang in there, LeeAnne! Are you sad to be without your guests, or glad for the stillness?

    One day at a time, each one better than the last, hopefully, right?

    Amy
  • PDXLeeAnne
    PDXLeeAnne Member Posts: 119
    edited August 2007
    It is quiet in my house today after everyone left but I'm okay. Gives me a chance to reflect and to hear God's voice. Which by the way said today "told you you'd get through chemo." An old friend is bringing Popeye's chicken and a biscuit over for dinner (yum!) and I have friends lined up to visit every day this week. This recovery is really going to take some time as I can barely be upright for longer than 5 minutes yet!

    My other big amusement: IMing with this potential date man I mentioned. Fills the time here in Couch World.

    And yes Amy and all, each day is a little better than the one before. Yeah!

    Liz, tomorrow is surgery day, right? I am thinking about you and sending you calming thoughts!

    LeeAnne
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited August 2007
    Thanks LeeAnne, I've got my eye on the xanax bottle but I want to stay up for a while so I can sleep in tomorrow. Surg not till 5pm can you believe that??? Tic toc.

    Have a great day everyone.
  • chemo072
    chemo072 Member Posts: 682
    edited August 2007
    best wishes Liz!!!

    LeeAnne, Amy, et al - everyone who's done with chemo - I'm now 19 days out, just had 7 "good" days in a row, totally overdid it even with naps, and thank goodness a close-but-long-lost friend showed up out of the blue and decided to stay and take care of me. She cooked dinner tonight, did all the dishes, so that I can go to work and drs appts (acupuncture, an appt to talk to the port surgeon) and make it through my days....

    So my long-winded point is, don't forget to ask for help after chemo!! here i was reclaiming my independence and crashing with the ongoing morphine w/d issues... So, not as strong as I thought by far. So just be forewarned.

    Love to you all,
    Amanda
  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited August 2007
    Liz, Thinking of you and praying for you today,

    Amy
  • PDXLeeAnne
    PDXLeeAnne Member Posts: 119
    edited August 2007
    Amanda, thanks for the warning. I can only imagine how easy it is going to be to push it too much when I'm feeling better. And then I'll be back to horizontal. No risk of it yet though. I'm planning on dwelling full time in couch world until Friday, for sure.

    Yeah for your friend showing up to care for you!

    And Liz, we'll all be waiting to hear from you. When are you scheduled to come home from the hospital? You're in my prayers!

    LeeAnne
  • VirginiaNJ
    VirginiaNJ Member Posts: 634
    edited August 2007
    Sending good karma your way, Liz!!! Best best best of luck... You are in my thoughts....

    LeeAnne, I've been "riding" my couch for quite some time... I don't think I can blame my listlessness on chemo anymore...now it's just plain laziness. I also don't think I can blame my forgetfulness on chemo-brain...but I do!! I also laughed about your post RE Jon BonJovi! He's a New Jersey boy, thank you very much! LOL One of our claims to fame...along with Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce (my fave). I went to High School with Mr. Soprano himself, James Gandolfini. (Although, he is 5 years older than me and was a senior when I was in the 7th grade, so I have absolutely no recolection of him!!)

    Is anyone else currently on herceptin?? Any side effects?

    I've been suffering from such horrible "mini" hot flashes. Onc says it's from the Tamoxifen...but I didn't have the flashes before I started my chemo (when I was taking the Tamoxifen). They are horrible...and I have a Tempur-Pedic bed which HOLDS HEAT like crazy. UGH!

    Anyhow, if anyone has any thoughts, they would be greatly appreciated...

    Best wishes to all...

    Virginia
  • Traci-----TripNeg
    Traci-----TripNeg Member Posts: 2,298
    edited August 2007
    Hey ladies,

    I haven't been on in a few days...I've actually been doing some stuff! I got out of the house! I guess I can't use chemo as an excuse anymore!! YEA!!

    I woke up this morning thinking about Liz. I'm sure she's feeling pretty crappy right now.

    Amy,
    I can't remember how I got to season 2 on the ABC website......damn chemo brain! There is another website called graboid.com where I hear you can watch old episodes but I never tried it.
    You can definetely get the older seasons at Blockbuster or Netflix. Sorry, I jumped onto the website and tried to find it but couldn't and I've got to leave to go help my niece paint her new apartment. I'll try again later.

    Virginia,
    I hear you on the hotflashes. I didn't have them before either and they SUCK!! I wake up sometimes 5 or 6 times a night with them. Some other girls on here were talking about "chillow pillow" but I never checked it out. I'm just suffering through with a huge fan on the floor. Good luck girl. I know it's awful.

    I thought I put a picture on here but, I guess it didn't work. I'll try again cuz it's cool being able to put a face with a name.

    Hope you are all having a great day!
    Hugs, Traci
  • PDXLeeAnne
    PDXLeeAnne Member Posts: 119
    edited August 2007
    This is how I have been managing my hot flashes:

    Chillow UNDER my pillow
    No pajamas (not like anyone would notice)
    Fan on if it is hot, otherwise air purifier on all the time
    Glass of water on the nightstand
    100% Cotton sheets max 300 threadcount or they are too sweaty

    When I wake up with the hot flash I throw ALL my covers off, go to the bathroom (stark nekkid, it lets the sweat evaporate!), come back to bed and drink some water, flip my pillow over so the cool side (which has been on the chillow) is up, and go back to bed! If I really don't want to get up I at least throw all the covers off and flip my pillow. It helps.

    I find it strange that hot flashes are only a night thing.

    Amy, how are you feeling today?
    Tracy, yeah for you getting out of the house!
    Virginia, yes I do love JBJ, cutest man EVER even if the band's songs have the dumbest lyrics ever.
    Amanda, how long is your friend staying?
    Mandy, how are you doing?

    Time for me to find my Arrested Development dvds so that I can laugh. It is gorgeous, hot and sunny here today and I will NOT let my shut in status make me depressed!!!

    LeeAnne
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited August 2007
    Last chance to check in with you girls. I'm getting ready to go to the hospital. Thanks for all the good thoughts! I'll be out tomorrow afternoon if all goes well. Friday if I need an extra day. I already have an appointment to go see PS on Friday to get the bandage taken off and replaced with a sports bra. I'll bet it'll be red and lacy. Maybe the Very Sexy Victoria's Secret model? Whatcha think?

    Have a great few days and feel better everyone. I'll be back asap.

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