Anyone give in to maybe some not so healthy habits

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AnnieBird55
AnnieBird55 Member Posts: 122
I have read many posts about many of us hear with no family history of cancer, have lead healthy lifestyles (no-smoking, no drinking, lean diets with lots of fruits and veggies, exercise, etc). Yet, cancer has found us.

I am not focusing on the "why me" aspect of this. What I find myself often thinking is "what the heck. BC found me regeardless of my clean living." So I rationalize (with guilt) and think I am going for it. I am going to enjoy some of those not so healthy pleasures of life: ice cream (B&J!), chocolate (what a feel good delight!), donuts, spend a few days a week working on that summer tan (dermatologist would have a coronary), and Guiness Stout!

Then when I am diving into these indulgences, others (family) might comment "You should know better! Stay out of the sun! " Yes, I should know better. But, I feel it may not matter really. The sun feels so good on achy joints, and the "tocins" I get from these pleasureable but maybe not so healthy habits seem worth it to me.

I know I am rationalizing. I just wonder if any of you all do the same.

Annie
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  • lam
    lam Member Posts: 202
    edited August 2007
    Hi Annie,

    I also love the sun - living in California it's usually out there! I know that all my docs would say stay out of it but that's not what our lifestyle here is about. I was one of those who thought I was doing all the right stuff prior to my BC dx - non-smoking/drinking, vegetarian, exercised etc and I still got C. My attitude has relaxed a lot now in terms of being so rigid about the things that bring a bit of fun into my life...

    Hugs,
  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited August 2007

    That would be me. Unfortunately I enjoy my wine and vodka tonics more!

  • EachDay
    EachDay Member Posts: 400
    edited August 2007
    Yeah, that would be me too. I do the sunscreen but I still like to spend some time in the sun reading...not as much as I would have before, but I still like the sun. And I still like my red wine and my other beverages from time to time. I'm just trying to use moderation. Like everyone else here I did the healthy lifestyle too...and breast cancer came anyway. Some habits are hard to break and maybe we do some justifying and rationalizing, but I also agree that we have hopefully learned not to be so hard on ourselves and not be as rigid as we were before. I'm working at keeping "guilt" out of the equation.

    As for family and friends saying we "shouldn't", I just put that down to their worry for us. I haven't heard that from anyone and maybe they think it, but just as I never tell my friends who smoke they shouldn't or it's bad for them, I think they respect my choices and decisions as well.

    SC
  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited August 2007
    Add me to the list. I definitely drink more wine now; I'm just careful to take my folic acid pill every morning. And since reading that only an extremely low fat diet helps lower the risk of BC (and knowing that I'll never be able to sustain such a diet), I now an less careful at avoiding certain foods with high fat content, particularly cheese, which I love. I still try to maintain an overall healthy diet, but like you, I figure that since BC found me anyway, why take extra precautions to avoid BC? I also figure that I since I don't know what the future holds, I might as well enjoy myself now!

    Cheers!
  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited August 2007
    Everything in moderation. But, I don't I don't pass on curves or double yellow lines. I don't speed (too much), or drive drunk. I look both ways when crossing, stop on yellow lights.

    Everything else is Wide open!
  • mccarroll
    mccarroll Member Posts: 360
    edited August 2007
    Add me to this group. I had a healthy, active lifestyle before cancer. I did yoga, aerobics, drove the jetski every week, in other words, at 50 years old, I was playing and having a blast. I was also on a constant diet and thought about everything I ate but I worked at staying a size 4.

    Now, one year post cancer (and 2 weeks out of thyroid cancer) I say sc*** it! I was so careful and look at the good it did me. Now, I'm not so concerned about what I eat ... if I want it and it tastes good, IT'S MINE!!! Add wine and fruity martinis to my list of pleasures. I'm a solid size 6, gave up and bought new jeans a few months ago and am going my merry way!!

    Thanks for this thread. I am so glad not the be the only guilty one. Karen
  • Sierra
    Sierra Member Posts: 1,638
    edited August 2007
    Absolutely, go for it
    I say
    the Time is NoW

    Dr. Bernie Siegel says
    Eat your chocolate cake

    Last nite: I had a
    double chocolate ice cream
    on a stick.. Haggen Daas I believe
    yes fattening... but I dont do it
    every day

    also, had some blue cheese this week
    another of my indulgences

    Very allergic to sun

    Enjoy each minute.... )
  • sflow
    sflow Member Posts: 297
    edited August 2007

    No sun, smoking or liquor for me, but I eat what I want within moderation. I try to keep to beef only once or twice a week. Only live once.

  • wallan
    wallan Member Posts: 1,275
    edited August 2007
    Well, I always think... wouldn't it be a waste if I denied myself that wonderful piece of chocolate cake, left the restaurant and got hit by a bus crossing the street!
    I would be so mad at myself for not eating my cake!!!

    So I do indulge. I keep it in moderation because I don't want to balloon out like a giant and then get sick from something else. But I do indulge. I want a joyous life afterall.

    Wendy A
  • Valsul
    Valsul Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2007
    Count me in. I remember my mother's saying "A little of what you fancy does you food." Well, it certainly makes me feel good.

    And then again I don't overindulge as I used to; my thoughts are that I can have what I want if I want it, so the pressure to eat that chocolate cake is not there. And sometimes I do indulge.

    Don't sunbathe - too fair and burn, so I do love to sit outside on a sunny day in the shade, by my little pond and read.
  • Valsul
    Valsul Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2007

    AAArghh! The dreaded typo - does you good!

  • Toronto
    Toronto Member Posts: 118
    edited August 2007
    Actually I enjoyed that typo, I think that might have been a Freudian typo.

    Now me, I wasn't saintly before BC, I guess I did everything wrong - postponed childbearing, ate red meat and greatly enjoyed it, smoked, drank, and did a few other things.

    After BC, well I still smoked for a while after the first round but gave it up, still eat meat but less of it, still drink but insist on better stuff, still hate exercise but walk more to avoid using the car (I'm ecological).

    Maybe I caused my BC, but I doubt it. And for sure I didn't have to deal with the "why mes". There is something to be said for NOT having lived a blameless life.
  • junie
    junie Member Posts: 1,216
    edited August 2007
    no "why me" or "what if I had or hadn't done something different".........stuff happens in our lives.

    I've never wondered what I did or didn't do that caused me to have bc--no family history.....luck of the draw...bad things happen to good people????

    I have done all the requisite things--surgery, chemo, radiation, follow-up visits out the wazoo, Tamoxifen--just finished the 5 years of that crap!

    I still love a good grilled steak; I drink what and as much as I want (BUT, I DON'T DRIVE, or ever cross the double line!!) and I still smoke--but working on that one! And, I love my sun--I do try to stay out of the hottest times of the day, but there is just nothing like sitting in the warm sunshine, sipping on a cold beer, and having a smoke!

    I'm gonna be the classic slider into home plate with a beer in one hand, a cigarette in the other, yelling--"Wow, what a ride"!!!!

    big hugggssssss to all!!!!
  • biondi
    biondi Member Posts: 223
    edited August 2007
    Quote:

    no "why me" or "what if I had or hadn't done something different".........stuff happens in our lives.

    I've never wondered what I did or didn't do that caused me to have bc--no family history.....luck of the draw...bad things happen to good people????

    I have done all the requisite things--surgery, chemo, radiation, follow-up visits out the wazoo, Tamoxifen--just finished the 5 years of that crap!

    I still love a good grilled steak; I drink what and as much as I want (BUT, I DON'T DRIVE, or ever cross the double line!!) and I still smoke--but working on that one! And, I love my sun--I do try to stay out of the hottest times of the day, but there is just nothing like sitting in the warm sunshine, sipping on a cold beer, and having a smoke!

    I'm gonna be the classic slider into home plate with a beer in one hand, a cigarette in the other, yelling--"Wow, what a ride"!!!!

    big hugggssssss to all!!!!




    HI JUNIE! GREETINGS FROM LAS VEGAS! HEY GIRL, I'M WITH YOU.
    NEXT TIME U VISIT, I AM GOING TO MEET UP WITH YOU ALL. SORRY I MISSED U LAST YEAR..

    WHEN I LIVED IN SOUTH AMERICA, TRAVELING ETC, GYPSY GIRL,
    I WENT TO THE BEACH, AT 11, FROLICKED IN THE SUN FROM 11 TILL 4PM EVERY DAY, WENT TO WORK,(4HRS IN THE EVENING, ONE SHOW ONLY) WENT TO EAT AND DRINK AFTER, PARTIED, WHEN TO BED AT 5AM. GOT UP ABOUT 1PM NEXT DAY, AND STARTED ALL OVER AGAIN. LOVED LIFE, LOTS OF BEAUTIFUL SO.AMERICAN MEN, NEVER THOUGHT OF HEALTH ISSUES, SORE MUSCLES FROM REHEARSALS, BUT THAT WENT AWAY, HEALTHY AND HAPPY. SO GLAD I LIVED LIKE THAT FOR MANY YEARS, TWO STEAKS A DAY AND LOTS OF VINO..
    LIVED LIKE THERE WAS NO TOMORROW, DON'T REGRET A THING.

    WHEN I GOT B/C AT 63, I DON'T BELEIVE FOR A MOMENT IT WAS CAUSED BY MY LIFE STYLE OR WHAT I ATE OR DRANK.
    I WORKED IN A LAB,(PHOTOGRAPHY) AROUND SOME VERY HOT CHEMICALS FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND TOOK HRT, (PREMPRO, POISON) FOR 6 YEARS, IF ANYTHING, THESE THINGS WERE PROBABLY BEEN A FACTOR IN GETTING B/C.
    I TRY TO LIVE MY LIFE ONE DAY AT A TIME, WITHOUT FEAR, AND STILL AM FIESTY AND DO WHAT I WANT TO DO.

    I SAY GO FOR IT! (I AM TRYING TO QUIT THE CIGS THOUGH) LOL
  • cheryl58
    cheryl58 Member Posts: 182
    edited August 2007
    Well, I am with Junie on this one. Did a lot of the "bad" things before breast cancer and do more of them now. The sun helps me make vitamin D, the cigarettes help to take the stress out of my life and the alcohol makes me laugh. I have resigned myself to possibly having a shorter life than I always thought I would, and I am just making sure I enjoy what I have left....
  • lindaDK
    lindaDK Member Posts: 99
    edited August 2007
    I've never had a weight problem always been a sz 4-6, so I ate whatever I wanted before BC. After being diagnosed I was petrified of everything I ate or drank for a couple of months, thinking something I did caused my cancer.

    Now I have eased up on myself some, I do try to limit the red meat and sugar and eat more fruits than I did before, but I no longer obsess about it like I did for several months. I now follow the 'everything in moderation'.

    And I admit a good looking juicy steak still turns my head!!

    Linda
  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited August 2007

    I'm right there with you Annie. I want some fun and enjoyment in my life-- I don't want to feel like I'm in a metaphoric healthy lifetstyle prison.

  • Sierra
    Sierra Member Posts: 1,638
    edited August 2007

    Post deleted by Sierra

  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited August 2007
    Quote:

    I'm a solid size 6, gave up and bought new jeans a few months ago and am going my merry way!!






    The fact that anyone my age is STILL a size 6 is cause for a major depression. I'm gonna ignore the being overweight linked to increased recurrence studies and have some of that comfort food, AKA banana cream pie, I've been eyeing since my husband brought it home.
    YUM!
  • Lynn12
    Lynn12 Member Posts: 1,008
    edited August 2007

    Count me in..I enjoy a good steak and some wine to drink with it. I don't smoke but do endulge on social drinking on the weekends. That's what I did before bc and that's what I'm doing now. It's my life and I like it. However, I am trying to exercise more and eat better. I take vitamins daily which I never did.

  • biondi
    biondi Member Posts: 223
    edited August 2007
    FOR GSG..

    PLEAS EAT THE BANANA CREAM PIE ! AND HAVE AN EXTRA PIECE FOR ME!
  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited August 2007
    if you were closer, biondi, i'd invite you over right now and we'd finish it off together.

    i started taking daily calcium only AFTER i discovered there's such a thing as viactiv (heavenly little DELICIOUS, chewy chocolate squares of calcium, Vit K and D). I've never been so excited to learn of something in my life. image arimidex schwimidex. guaranteed, if calcium had only been available in those big honker pills, my bones would be brittle as glass.
  • mccarroll
    mccarroll Member Posts: 360
    edited August 2007
    OH MAN!!! Now I want some banana cream pie! Thanks GSG.

    Karen
  • biondi
    biondi Member Posts: 223
    edited August 2007
    GSG, THANKS FOR THE INVITE! NOW HERE IS A RECIPE FOR A QUICK,EASY AND GOOD FOR YOU BANANA DESERT. I WOULD TOP IT WITH NUTS AND A DRIZZLE OF DARK CHOCOLATE SAUCE..

    Cocoa-Banana Frozen Dessert

    Description
    The flavors in this simple dessert remind us of beach fare – frozen bananas on a stick coated with chocolate. This is a healthier version that you can whip up in no time. It contains no added sugar or dairy and is very versatile. Improvise by adding different flavors. Make this a few hours before you plan to serve - it's best when just frozen. Any leftovers will keep for a couple of weeks in the freezer.


    Ingredients
    4 very ripe bananas
    2 tablespoons pure unsweetened cocoa powder
    1 teaspoon pure vanilla extract
    2 tablespoons real maple syrup

    Instructions
    1. Peel the bananas and place in a blender or food processor along with the cocoa powder.

    2. Add the vanilla extract and the maple syrup.

    3. Blend till very smooth. Pour into individual custard cups or small bowls and freeze until just frozen.

    Serves 6

    Nutrients Per Serving
    Calories: 118.1
    Protein: 1.4 grams
    Fat: 0.7 grams
    Saturated Fat: 0.3 grams
    Monounsat Fat: 0.1 grams
    Polyunsat Fat: 0.1 grams
    Carbohydrate: 30.0 grams
    Fiber: 3.0 grams
    Cholesterol: 0.0 mg
    Vitamin A: 82.2 IU
    Vitamin E: 0.3 mg/IU
    Vitamin C: 9.2mg
    Calcium: 13.7 mg
    Magnesium: 39.4 mg


    7
  • Emelee26
    Emelee26 Member Posts: 569
    edited August 2007

    ooh..I'm going to make this tonight!

  • junie
    junie Member Posts: 1,216
    edited August 2007
    bionde--sending you a PM! Some of us ARE coming back to Las Vegas in November---hey, if anyone is interested, there is a post on the get-together thread. Dates are Nov 8 - 11, give or take a day or so......PM me if interested!

    Big hugggsss!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2007
    Yum, I'm going to try the recipe too! My grandkids will be coming in a couple of weeks and this would be a healthy treat.

    I have an unhealthy banana recipe.
    Shirley
  • Sierra
    Sierra Member Posts: 1,638
    edited August 2007
    Annie:

    Meant to post this yesterday:

    READ THIS VERY SLOWLY... IT'S PRETTY PROFOUND.


    Too many people put off something that brings them joy just because
    they haven't thought about it, don't have it on their schedule,
    didn't know it was coming, or are too rigid to depart from their
    routine.

    I got to thinking one day about all those people on the Titanic who
    passed up dessert at dinner that fateful night in an effort to cut
    back. From then on, I've tried to be a little more flexible.

    How many women out there will eat at home because their husband didn't
    suggest going out to dinner until after something had been
    thawed? Does the word "refrigeration" mean nothing to you?

    How often have your kids dropped in to talk and sat in silence while
    you watched 'Jeopardy' on television?

    I cannot count the times I called my sister and said, "How about
    going to lunch in a half hour?" She would gas up and stammer, "I can't.
    I have clothes on the line. My hair is dirty. I wish I had known
    yesterday, I had a late breakfast, It looks like rain." And my personal
    favorite: "It's Monday." She died a few years ago. We never did have lunch
    together.

    Because we cram so much into their lives, we tend to schedule our
    headaches.. We live on a sparse diet of promises we make to ourselves
    when all the conditions are perfect!

    We'll go back and visit the grandparents when we get Steve
    toilet-trained. We'll entertain when we replace the living-room carpet. We'll go on a second honeymoon when we get two more kids out of college.

    Life has a way of accelerating as we get older. The days get shorter,
    and the list of promises to ourselves gets longer. One morning, we awaken,
    and all we have to show for our lives is a litany of "I'm going to,"
    "I plan on," and "Someday, when things are settled down a bit."

    When anyone calls my 'seize the moment' friend, she is open to
    adventure and available for trips. She keeps an open mind on new ideas. Her
    enthusiasm for life is contagious. You talk with her for five minutes, and
    you're ready to trade your bad feet for a pair of Roller blades and
    skip an elevator for a bungee cord.

    My lips have not touched ice cream in 10 years. I love ice cream. It's
    just that I might as well apply it directly to my stomach with a
    spatula and eliminate the digestive process. The other day, I stopped the car and bought a triple-decker. If my car had hit an iceberg on the way home, I
    would have died happy.

    Now..go on and have a nice day. Do something you WANT to......not
    something on your SHOULD DO list. If you were going to die soon and had
    only one phone call you could make, who would you call and what would you
    say? And why are you waiting?

    Make sure you read this to the end; you will understand why I sent
    this to you.

    Have you ever watched kids playing on a merry go round or listened to
    the rain lapping on the ground? Ever followed a butterfly's erratic flight
    or gazed at the sun into the fading night? Do you run through each day on the fly? When you ask "How are you?" Do you hear the reply?

    When the day is done, do you lie in your bed with the next hundred
    chores running through your head? Ever told your child, "We'll do it
    tomorrow. "And in your haste, not see his sorrow? Ever lost touch? Let a good friendship die? Just call to say "Hi"?

    When you worry and hurry through your day, it is like an unopened
    gift....Thrown away.... Life is not a race. Take it slower. Hear the
    music before the song is over.

    "Life may not be the party we hoped for... but while we are here, we
    might as well dance!"


    (sent to me by a pal)


    )
  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited August 2007

    I have a seize the moment friend and love to be around her! I sent her a copy of this, and sent it to all my other friends as well. Thanks

  • GlennaG
    GlennaG Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2007

    I'll drink to that!

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