What to expect after DCIS dxd

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  • Helenhsm
    Helenhsm Member Posts: 177
    edited July 2007
    Wow Mary, that is amazing!!

    Kathy, thank you for your note. Whew it is true so much of this is a mind game. It seems like a lot of people weren't at the hospital for long. And what is all this about a drain? They have me coming at 9:30, surgery not til 3:00, that doesn't seem to effecient.
  • lisanash
    lisanash Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2007
    would you mind sharing what your doctors have recommended for follow up care? Are you able to get MRI's?
    thanks,
    lisa
  • louishenry
    louishenry Member Posts: 417
    edited August 2007

    Hi MN Susan. My DCIS sounds similar to yours. Small, removed by bipsy, healthy tissue in lump. sample. No rads, or tamox. I'm worried I'm not doing enough. Did you take tamox.?

  • MNSusan
    MNSusan Member Posts: 305
    edited August 2007

    Yes, I'm taking Tamoxifen. I had some problems with it - wacky blood levels - so I was off for about 4 months. I'm back on now with no problems and minimal side effects.

  • joe1234
    joe1234 Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2007

    I was also dx with dcis nuclear grade 1 in right breast and adh in right breast. After talking to breast surgeon, oncologist and radialogist, oncologist they told me I could go without radiation. The decision was a little confusing because the radialogist first said that I probably should have it. He kept apologizing because he said I seem to fall into that borderline category,where they feel radiation is not necessary because the dcis is so small. My surgeon was pleased with the second surgery path. report ,I had to create a clear margin.She would not recommend radiation at this point because once you have radiation to the breast you can't have it again. I was told by oncologist that I should take tamoxifen, but the decision was mine. I am very nervous about side effects if my risk are so small,so I have the perscription but haven't filled it yet. Like you I am wondering if going without the radiation was the right thing. I am being closely monitored by my surgeon, so I am just praying all goes well in the future.

  • Motherbeartosix
    Motherbeartosix Member Posts: 101
    edited August 2007
    Joe, have youlooked aa the VNPI (Van Nuys Prognostic Index). Maybe that will help you.

    http://poptop.hypermart.net/brcavnpi.html

    Jo
  • alwaysfighting12
    alwaysfighting12 Member Posts: 8
    edited August 2007
    Hi
    I was diagnosed in Feb. of this year and ended up with a mastecomy on 4-16. I had DCIS throughout my breast. What I am really concerned about is I never saw an oncoligist, should I have seen one? I had reconstruction right after surgery. No radiation or chemo. I considered myself fortunate. I also lost 2 lymp nodes. Any info. concerning this will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
  • geebung
    geebung Member Posts: 1,851
    edited August 2007
    Hi hopeful,

    It is standard practice for DCIS patients who have mastectomies rather than lumpectomy with follow up radiation tx to not see an oncologist because there is no cancer left to treat.

    I too was dx in Feb this year with DCIS - had lumpectomy, dirty margins, er+& pr+, grades 2&3, stage 0 and it was extensive so had mastectomy on April 18 with SNB - 2 nodes which were negative. Microinvasion was suspected from the lumpectomy but the path report after the mastectomy stated "no microinvasion dectected". I asked for a second pathologist to look at the slides who agreed with first pathologist. There was no need for radiation or chemo. My surgeon assured me that I was virtually 100% cured, Tamoxifen wasn't mentioned (to my relief!) and no suggestion that I needed to see an oncologist. I am perimenopausal so was told there were currently no drug trial suitable for me. That was fine by me. I also consider myself extremely fortunate, even though it was sad to lose my breast.

    I may be going off on a bit of a tangent here but here goes: You have been on this DCIS journey and no doubt been told that you are fortunate to be cured and to just keep an eye on your remaining breast (assuming you had a unilat mastectomy). My Breast Centre has a team composed of surgeons, breast nurses and pathologists who, in fortnightly meetings, discuss all current patients so I guess this is where the onco determines if a woman needs these extra treatments or not so an oncologist has probably had some input into your case, even though you haven't had a face to face session with him/her.

    I personally, wish there was an oncologist who I could visit, (once would probably be enough) who would just answer all the questions that have arisen since my surgery. This board has been extremely helpful in giving me information and directing me to websites etc but it would be nice to sit down with a specialist, who had strong people-relating skills and bombard him/her with my questions and anxieties about my what has happened to me. I think that would help to inform, clarify, reassure and bring a degree of closure for those of us who feel left a bit high and dry. Some of us feel as though we are in a no man's land where we aren't quite cancerous enough to need this attention, yet at the same time, we have gone through surgery, often radiation and othertimes, mastectomy, with or without reconstruction - which are all radical enough treatments as far as I am concerned.

    Breast nurses fulfill this need to a degree but once again, in my case, I felt like I was taking up her precious time asking for information and reassurance when there were women suffering from more severe cancer than I was.

    Perhaps we need an 'oncopsychologist' who would fulfill this need!

    Hope this has helped. Come back and ask more questions if you feel the need. I have received SO much support and information here.
  • Greenjeans
    Greenjeans Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2007
    I'm waiting to have my second lumpectomy for DCIS,didn't get clear margind on the first one Dr. said I need to heal more from the first one (Aug 3rd). I see him on the 30th. But I still have a hard sore knot at the base of my aerola which is where they cut. Could this be a hematoma ? What can be done for this? He told me to do hot compresses two weeks ago on my last visit. While It has shrinked from the outer edged inward, It's taking forever. Due to my work schedule I can only do it in the evenings when I get home or some early mornings. Is ice any better?? I want to get this second surgery over with! Any info would be appreciated.
    Jeanne
  • CCnNC
    CCnNC Member Posts: 8
    edited August 2007
    Jeanne, I also had a hard knot around the incision site. Warm compresses do help. I was told not to use ice. It just takes a time (words we all grow to hate)to heal but it does. Have you tried a heating pad on a LOW setting that you could use during a lunch break at work? Assuming, of course, there is a place you could do this.

    I had the second surgery within a week of the first. It was good to get it over with but harder on the body---not enough recovery time from the first one. I then a third one several weeks later. It took three tries to clear those stubborn margins!

    I also suggest you watch the spot carefully for heat. If it becomes hot or red (especially if you are running a fever) you need to contact your physician immediately because it might be a sign of infection. I developed an infection 10 days after the second surgery. We caught it early and took care of it quickly so I was fine.

    I share your frustration about wanting it all over. My DR called DCIS a surgeon's nightmare because it can't be seen making clearing margins very difficult. Treatment took longer than I anticipated but I'm doing great now and in my last week of radiation. Pretty soon you will be there too.

    I wish you much success with surgery #2

    Ceice
  • alwaysfighting12
    alwaysfighting12 Member Posts: 8
    edited August 2007
    Geebung
    Thank you so much for what you said! It really is the truth.

    I have a cousin who is suffering with cervical cancer 3rd. time and has gone through tons of chemo & rad., I felt like such a whiner. I was feeling fortunate, lucky, blessed upon that I didn't have to have the chemo or rad. I also felt guilty for being the lucky one.

    After reading what you wrote I realize I don't have to feel guilty, I lost my breast. I lost the sensation of having a breast. I am entitled to my feelings. I talked with my plastic surg. today about my margins and he said it was 1 (to the good) and that the questions I have are legitimate. I should not feel embarassed about asking or needing reasurance.

    Today I feel is a GOOD day, between you & my Dr. I feel sane and more relaxed. I am going through all the feelings you wrote about. Thank you. God Bless you!
  • Greenjeans
    Greenjeans Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2007
    Thanks for the encourging words. I'll try a heating pad at lunchtime.
    Jeanne
  • arizona47
    arizona47 Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2007

    Hi Helen- I live in Surprise, Arizona. I had DCIS of left breast. Had Biopsy an May; Lumpectomy in June. It was stage 0-low grade;margins clear..yeah!!!Had Multi-Plane brachy therapy. Its high dose radiation; done 2xday for 5 days - total of 10 treatments. Its done from inside out vs out side in;the traditional way of 6.5 weeks/33 treatments. Ask your doctor about this; or even ask about Mammosite. I truly believe its the better way to go than the longer haul. Good luck to you!!!

  • JoannaLangenhoven
    JoannaLangenhoven Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2013

    Hallo, in 2007 you posted.... I have the same diagnosis... just wondering.... I want to stop taking tamoxifen (used it for 8 months)... did your cancer came back?

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