For those starting chemo in June
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Well Hello again girls, First let me say please take some vicodan PeepJB and plenty of them if you want to get to sleep. Do you think you could reconize this guy with clothes on? Did he have skinny bull legs and teeter from side to side when he walked? Been there and saw that. In my business I see it all the time. I am telling you it will give you bad dreams. Its not a pretty site and you will need heavy duty meds. It has probably given you brain damage and now you never want to get old.I still can't believe you were peeping on an inocent little old man trying with all his strength to make his way to his cubicle. I bet you'll keep your eyes in your own cubicle from now on huh? Just joking. You can't tell me anything.(And apparently we can't take you anywhere.)Janie I must have one of those faces people just like to talk to me and older people just tell me their problems. This being a population of I don't know 11000 last I knew and that was a few years ago. Might be less, don't know who would want to live here. Well not much crime and you know a lot of the people or their relatives.We did have the most cases of neuroblastoma in one town ever reported. I think it was 8. They think it was an old coal tar site owned by the utility co. It was on the national news. We lost all eight little boys. Ages 6 to 13. We knew a couple of them. Not too many wanted to move here for a while.There was maybe only 8 case in the nation and we had 8 in one small town.Anyhow Janie you get some sleep oh shoot, you will be up all night probably. Hope this ones not nasty. PeepJB, Do not open the curtain tomorrow. Just let him strut his stuff.Renee hope your o.k. Hugs, Mary
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Look at your bill. If it doesn't include a cover charge, you can expect more of the same.
Or, maybe he was just proving he could "bare it."
I get this way after ever chemo....plumb goofy. Bless his heart, so many people in Mayo have asked to see my boobs, I feel like I may as well not have on a top. Everybody knows what's under there. They even have pictures. It's ok. Whatever it takes.
I want chocolate! And there is not any in the house! May as well go to bed and stare at the ceiling for a while. Good night ladies. -
PeepJB before treatment, Peep after treatmemt Mary reading her post. Boy Janie PJB is going to kill us. I was scared to log on. Not too scared I could't add a little fuel to matters with pictures but scared a little.I had to get an x-ray. Having bad pain in hip and radiating down to my knee. I have had this pain before but not going to my knee and not this bad so called and Dr. gone all wk. and Nurse practioner could see me end of next week. First I refuse to pay Dr. charges for a nurse and My leg could fall off by then. I am in pain here. I talked to nurse who knows me and told her what I need and she ordered an X-ray for me and I ran right over and got it. My MD Is a woman so she is gone a lot but I like her.She is also an O.B.G.Y.N. so I don't have to run around and I don't have a man looking where he don't need to. I just think men have no idea what we go through or our pain. Besides I worked with the local O.B.G.Y.N. and nope, no way.Well I am home for an hour and back to work. Have a few things to do. Later,Hope PJB's rad. went well today.She may have been early again and caught a glimps of the moon. Hope she had the "bare" necessities today.Well hopefully they were not running "behind" again. Oh, I gotta go, Mary
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Man, Mary, between those catchy little pictures and the plays on words, I'd say you're really in your element today! No saggy cheeks at the treatment today. Just my saggy chins. My boss took me down today and (she also works at the paper) she didn't even have time to get through reading one story before I was in and out of treatment. She's hilarious and it was a fun ride down and back. When I go with my husband, we just listen to this obscure music he likes.
Just called about flu shots, which my onc told me to get. My workplace was going to have them, but now they've canceled it. So I called onc nurse and she said I probably didn't need to get one since I'm generally feeling well. They don't have any anyway if I did need one. She was told she couldn't schedule anyone for a shot, and I guess that includes folks still going through chemo who might need it most. I guess I"m amazed that the powers that be, whoever they are, let this problem sneak up on them.
Mary, so what did the Xray find? Did you get any more idea on the pain and how to relieve it? I think SOMEONE should be able to figure out something for you quickly. Sheesh. And I'm with you on the woman docs. I hate having to go to a male gyno. Refused for years to go to one until I pretty much had no choice. I was so glad my surgeon was a woman.
Janie, Renee, how are things today?
Oh, my white fuzz is beginning to turn darker. I'm relieved. -
Hey Hey Paula, Sounds like you didn't have time to do much today -- maybe not even the "bare" essentials.
I have a female physician and a female OBGYN. I always get a female for anything I can. I also believe that men do not understand the female body and many times chalk it up to the wrong thing. Males delivered my 3 kids. The first one was horrible. I should have reported him to AMA or somebody. The other two were good. I like the male docs at the cancer center as well as the females. I like my female general physician. She had just had a premature baby herself, when my mammogram came back. She was only working two hours a day and she called me herself on my cell phone and told me to go get a second mammogram and an ultrasound that she had set up. She listens to me and my opinions about what's going on with my body. I feel very comfortable chatting with her.
Anybody have any vision problems on Taxol? I read a post somewhere on this site where a lady did. I just had my contacts prescription changed a month ago. I am already having problems with my eyesight. It must be the chemo. -
Hi Girls, Well it will probably be tomorrow before I hear. I think its my back or my hip joint. I came home from work early and took tylenol and went to sleep and feel better but haven't walked much. I just feel weak but maybe my counts are a little low again. Janie, I had trouble with my eyes on A/c and it got better about the last Taxol and my sight is back to normal. I had excellent vision far away but it was blurry until my 7th, Taxol and it started clearing up and is fine now.I haven't been able to see up close for years but I have my reading specs.Gosh I was planning to fix cabbage rolls but thats just not happening so I have to get something. I am still not tasting like normal. My mouth is kinda dry yet.Janie I liked the cover charge line, that was good.Well better go get some food. Hugs,Mary
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Mary, I hope your hip/back gets better soon. I know how painful that is. I haven't had to have as much pain meds this time. I had one percoset last week and have made do on Tylenol the rest of the time. I hope my eyesight does return soon. I am using a magifying glass on smaller print. Cabbage rolls....you have the best ideas.
My hair seems to be taking off and growing faster. Still just fuzz, but definitely coming in -- mostly black! I doubt it will stay that color. I don't care if it's purple as long as it comes back... preferably thicker.
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Janie, how old are you and are you having problems reading up close? I lost my up close vision in my early 40's. I picked up the phone book and couldn't see a thing. I lost it all at once. I used a magnifing glass for some time then lost all dignity and bought cheep reading glasses. My daughter called from Az. tonight and I asked her soon to be husband, (I call him my son-in-law cause they have been together for 5 years.)( hes an ortho. surg.) what was wrong and he said my syatic nerve from disc problems. Yea got that. He said motrin and rest so I will. I am at work tonight but wont be on my feet I will be sleeping. Well have to watch E.R. later, Hugs, Mary
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Just checking in to say pain is soo much better. The aspirin in motrin really cleared up the inflamation. I will continue the motrin for a couple days to make sure I get rid of it good. My Dr. office hasn't called yet but they have an outside rad. Dr. so it takes a day or two to get them read. Well at work so gotta go Hugs and how ya doing today PJB? Sounds like you had a great time yeaterday.Mary
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Mary. Glad to hear you are feeling better. I cannot take Motrin or Advil etc. anymore. I had gastro problems in December before the BC dx in March. My gastro guy told me Advil put his kids through college. I was taking Advil daily and he claims that is what caused my problems. He put me on Prevacid "until I meet St. Peter." Now I can only take Tylenol over the counter.
I am 58 and I got the dreaded "40" disease way back when. I wore glasses for reading etc. for years and now wear contacts. I just got my prescription changed a month ago and saw fine for a while. Now it's like I need to have it increased again already. That is why I think it is the chemo.
We are on Fall Break (Fri-Mon) so I am working in my private practice today. No rest for the weary. I am flying home tomorrow and will finally tell my parents about my cancer. They are going to skin me for keeping it from them this long. My boys are going to drive in and be there for support. -
Janie, you still haven't told your parents? They ARE gonna be upset. Hope it goes well. At least you'll be able to tell them you're mostly done with the worst part of the treatment. What kind of private practice do you have?
Mary, glad to hear the pain is lessened. That'll certainly make a trip easier.
One week down, five and a half to go. My mother-in-law went with me this morning. The machine was down so they gave us a voucher for the cafeteria and so I had two breakfasts today! Other than that, not much to it. Nathan's 7 today. He got one gift this morning, gets another tonight and one tomorrow. Then his party's Sunday. I've just got the one child, so I've got to really do it up. I'm really late getting to work since this morning's stuff took so long. It'll be a fast and furious afternoon.
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Janie, I have problems with Ibuprofin also It upsets my stomach and it can get bad. I have to eat when I take it and I only take it for 4 days at a time or I suffer with the my stomach for a week. I had an ulcer once and I have a hard time with aspirin products. I too usually only take tylenol but I knew I need aspirin to get rid of the inflamation or I would be going to get a steroid shot and boy I don't want anymore of those. I know all the steriod I have had has done a number on my bones. My Taxol pain seeems better today but it does some days and comes back with a vengence others. I just can't wait to feel normal again. I sure hope its not a year like some say. I usually heal fast but this stuff has done a number on me.Oh Well, I feel better than 3 weeks ago so thats something.I have developed itching here and there so hope that goes away. It kinda scares me cause theres no rash and liver problems can cause that. So can dry skin but its not where my skin is dry its random. Maybe its the left over Taxol. I came home for a while and got my cabbage rolls in to cook slowly for tonight. Made some extra for my kids and I will have to deliver them this afternoon. Gee, the things we do for our kids. By the time they all get home from work it will too late to drive here so I will be a nice mom. Gee the puter desk is dusty. I think someone in this house needs to do some house work and I will get my husband on it when he gets up. Well hope you had another good day PJB, Getting tired yet? Hope you had a good ride with another co-worker. Thats just really nice of them and your boss.Well later girls, Mary
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Paula,
My parents are elderly but always worried beyond what would be considered the norm, even when they were younger. My Mom once sat in front of the TV the whole time we were in, watching the weather channel for days worrying that it would snow on the day we drove home. This worrying become even more intensified when my only sibling, a brother, was killed in a car wreck many years ago. I was honestly afraid this would take my Mom on out in her already fragile condition. I wanted to be able to go in with the worst part of my treatment already over and let them see that I am ok and reassure them that I will be ok. Of course, Sat and Sun are my worst days on Taxol. So they will see me at my worst.
I have a private practice in psychology. I'm a shrink. My main job with benefits etc., is within the school system as an administrator and psychologist, but I do some private stuff too. I went back to school late in life and hope to finally be able to retire from the schools some day. That is why I am building my own practice.
Mary, my Friday pain has started right on schedule, just like clockwork. My hands are swollen. Not good when I will be flying tomorrow.
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Janie, How interesting to be a psychologist. And cool to go back to school to get there. I hope your trip goes well.
Mary, I get the itches, too. It's really bad when it's under an arm or on a breast. Then I immediately jump to conclusions even tho I just had a scan that shows things to be OK. It'll just be weird places randomly during the day. I guess it's dry skin all over or something. My skin on my feet also is still really dry, which was another one of my Taxol "treats." Enjoy those cabbage rolls. Sound great. I was thinking of making some the other day (never have) but it seemed like it'd be pretty hard. -
Janie, My mom would shoot me if I hadn't told her. I was afraid to tell her because her boos- who is my age- has been fighting BC for years now. I haven't seen mom and dad since this all started, so we are going to visit them in Arkansas in November after chemo before rads.
But after reading your posts, I understand why you haven't told them yet... Maybe with the guys there, she won't be as mad at you.
Mary, I have been able to walk okay. Not as far or as long, sometimes the walk to my mailbox- 1 mile round trip- is too much. This round of Taxotere has been way easier than the first round. My eyes water alot, but no pain this time.
Housework??? what's that? you mean everyone doesn't have little dust bunnies floating in the corners of the room?
I pamper myself quite abit. I take it easy and have not worked much since I need to schedule shows weeks ahead of time. It has been nice to get up when I want, nap when I want,etc. but missing the extra $$$ is hard. I will make up for it when this is over.
PJB- Love your 'peep show' story. My skin is so dry too. I took a bath, slathered on oil, and 30 minutes later, you couldn't tell I had put on any oil. I've never used so much lotion in my life. The good thing, all those bottles with just a bit left in them are getting used up!
My old work out friend stopped by today with some beautiful fall flowers. We chatted for hours. It was good to catch up with her.
Make it a good one ladies.
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Hi all,
My legs and feet and hands are swelling today. I will sleep in the stretchy socks to see if they go down.
Yep, PJ, being a psychologist is interesting. I have also seen things that are pretty bad. The reward comes in helping get people out of some of these situations.
Mary, How are you tonight?
Renee, I couldn't walk a mile right now if my life depended on it.
Warm fuzzies all around.
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Hi girls, Janie good luck with your mom. I can see your point and she probably couldn't have helped you while you were going through treatment so keeping her from worring was a wise choice, you just have to make her realize that.Sure hope she don't ground you.I am sure my itching is chemo residue or dry skin or both. Thanks girls I know I am not the only one with it so its not anything bad. Renee you must live in the mountains or country. The only way I would walk a mile to get my mail is if there was a big fat check in the box. I have to walk up and down two flights of steps at work and I have a two story house and my bathroom is upstairs and believe me I almost crawled up those babies when I was getting treatment. You must be in good shape Renee. I do have an elevator at work but I don't use it. Trying to stay in shape. PJB, When is Nathans party this week end? what kind is it? He will have fun and hope its great.Good Luck Janie and hang in there this wk. end Renee, My Tax pain would start on Fri. afternoon and go until Mon.Hang in there. My daughter sent me some fudge from Van Otis and its sooo good. I wish she would stop sending me stuff darnit especially sweets. I have eaten 4 pieces already and I got it today mmmmm. I have to go in to work a couple hours tomorrow, crap.Hugs, Mary
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HI guys. A week of rads behind me and I'm feeling great. (I'm sure I'll eat those words in a few weeks, but...) Had soccer (Nathan's team won), school carnival and steak out today. Big bowling party's tomorrow, with 12 kids coming. Oy, what did I get myself into? It's amazing to be living a normal life again (well, if you don't count the two hours every weekday driving or getting tx). I'm so grateful these days for just about everything.
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Oh boy, PJB you will be raggeged tomorrow night. The kids will have a ball. I bet Nathan is excited. Glad they won their game today. We had two back to back. The youngest played at 9:30 and the oldest at 10:30. We got done and gone. Usually they are an hour or two apart so we are wasting time waiting for the next one to start.I have 3 grandkids tonight. We went fishing for a while today. I haven't done that for years.There is a Chili fest uptown and there are rides (a few) and craft booths so we are going there tomorrow for a while.One of my brothers gets into Chili cook offs but didn't this time. He travels around here close and gets in them, he enjoys it. Well so glad you are doing so well so far.Some people say the fatigue isn't bad. Hopefully we will be some of those people.My siatic nerve pain is better and my muscle pain from the Taxol is better. If I am on my feet a lot I hurt but its better I think. I just keep lumbering along.My legs still feel like they could just give out on me sometimes but not a lot. My youngest grandson told me my (new) wig looked kinda funny as he put it. My hair was straight and this is the messed up curly kinda look so it looks like a lot more hair than I had. Out of the mouth of babes. I asked if my cap looked better and he said no the wig looked o.k. it just didn't look like me. My crown was the thickest part of my head and it took the longest to fall out and I am still bald on the crown. I have plenty of hair(fuzz) and its even getting dark in places but I am bald on the crown...What the hay? I am so ax backwards. Well better go and I am with you; I feel great feeling almost normal even with the left over muscle pain. Hugs, Mary
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Hi all. I am back from the hills of TN. Everything went well. I got a little nauseous on a couple of the planes even with my meds, but nothing awful. Of course the pain etc. is still hanging, but all in all, everything is fine.
Hugs to all.
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Janie, Glad to hear the trip went well. Hope things continue to go well for all of you.
So I"m trying to figure out if I'm just weird, in denial or what. There's a Relay for Life thing on Saturday. A woman at work who also has had bc asked me to be in it. I'm not on a team, just going. Several people at work have bought luminaria in my name. The thing is, I don't want to go. I don't want to be around a bunch of people talking about cancer. I mean, it's one thing when I come here and talk to you guys. It's another thing, to me, to go out and be among a bunch of other people who have/had it and then walk (actually, that part's no big deal except i can't walk real far) and then talk more about it. The thought makes me uncomfortable. What do you guys think I should do? I value your input. -
PJB, Someone told me that only statistic that matters is yours. In that same vein, the only feelings about your BC and what you do about it should be yours. IF you really do not want to do this, then it is not productive. There are other ways to support the cause without putting yourself through something that compounds an already difficult journey. Several people have run or walked etc. for me and I appreciate it so much, but I did not attend any of the functions. Some of the folks from work wanted me to go to a BC Lunch and Learn wiht two survivors speaking. I went not thinking that much about it. I ended up wishing I hadn't for various reasons. We have enough on our plates without adding things that make us uncomfortable. Don't let it guilt trip you for one second either. It is great to have support, but you SHOULD, and you owe it to yourself to stay in a positive mode.
Hugs and Love whatever you decide.
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mmmm, fudge sounds so good, but chocolate still doesn't taste good. I have some M&M's ready for when I can taste! My goal is for my Christmas cookies, fudge, and chocolate covered cherries to taste normal. Can you tell I usually have a sweet tooth. Hey, maybe that will change and it won't ever taste good... think of all the weight I wouldn't gain by cutting out sweets!
Janie, I'm glad your trip went well... It's a good thing we have those little nausea pills to help us out.
PJB, How was the party?
I walked in the local cancer walk, but didn't go until it was dark. It was not as crowded and I didnt' want to talk with others while I was there. I felt it was my time to reflect. They had music playing and the songs were very touching. I found it calming. Tom and I went a few laps and then left.
We went on a bike ride- It's not a weight bearing exercise so it's easier than walking. We find the 'downhill 'route, go that direction. I take a book with me and wait for Tom to go back and get the car and pick me up. He gets a longer ride and I can just sit and rest.
I'm also trying to learn how to crochet again. My grandma taught me years ago so I brought that with me on the ride and practiced that while I waited.
On Sunday, we were on our way to go to a state park to look at all the fall colors on the trees. Tom was going to hike, I was going to read or crochet. BUT, the car decided to overheat so we had to change our plans. We ended up stopping at this really old tavern we'd driven past at least 100 times. The owner just had her 100th birthday on Friday. Volunteer bartenders come in every day to help her out and watch out for her. I truly enjoyed my talk with her. She had a few real customers come in. Then a couple came in driving a vintage convertible mercedes! The owner had spent his younger years at that tavern and came back to say hi to her. I guess she was on the local news. She had so many customers because of the news, she ran out of most of her drinks.
Yes, we live in the country. I love seeing the wildlife in my yard, but the driveway is long and the mailbox is at the bottom of the hill.
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Renee,
It sounds like you live in a wonderful rustic place....a place most of us would like to go for a vacation. I haven't been to WI, but have heard good things about it. It was strange that it is still quite warm in TN for this time of year. I was expecting the autumn leaves, but everything was still green!
Speaking of M&M's, I have a zillion emails telling me about the pink and white ones....the ones that send a good chunk of the profit to BC research. I cannot find any. Have any of you see any on the selves? -
Hi Girls, I found the pink and white m&m's at Farm and Fleet. I don't shop there but stopped after Dr. apt. at Rad. in Decature and saw them so bought a couple bags. I couldn't eat them until about a wk. ago because chocolate didn't taste good until a wk. ago and I am eating it like crazy now. I didn't eat a lot of chocolate before or sweets. I ate them at night and sparingly as I am not a snacker or I can't eat my meals. I do however enjoy a midnight sweet treat but I am eating a lot now. I actually eat a whole sandwhich and I never did that before, only a half. I must be starved or just excited I can taste somewhat now. Its not all back some things I can't taste real good but most things I can. I even drank water yesterday, first time since A/C and I didn't get sick.Gee life is grand. Your part of the country sounds wonderful Renee, I have never been there but have thought about it. Its someplace we can drive for a wk. end and we think about those kinds of things and some we do and some we think about. My husband hasn't had a weekend off for some time. He has to use vacation days to get a Sat. and Sun. off.He only gets Sun. night off. My daughter in Az. bought make up and got her and I a charm bracelet that helps B.C. reserch. Shes sent mine but haven't got it yet. I have eaten soo much fudge I could bust. I should move my mail box down the street so I can walk this fudge off. They had the cancer walk and all that here first wk. of June. I didn't go because I was in treaatment and didn't feel I was a surviver yet so didn't feel comfortable going. I will go next year and do what ever I need to do to help but this year its all too new to me and I need some time to put it all into perspective and let some of the shock and awe sorta speak settle down and get confortable with it all. Being a small town I thought some of my friends would ask why I wasn't there but no one did so maybe they understand. I know next year they will expect me so I will have to go. Hope Nathans party was a blast. Later, Mary
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Hi guys. Nathan's party was a lot of fun. It's so fun to watch those little kids bowl. But boy was I wiped out by yesterday afternoon when the party was over. Too tired to go to the fair. Just as well. Today I went into work for about 2 hours after rads and then came home and slept. Those hot flashes are making it hard to get a good night's sleep. I'm so scatterbrained without sleep. Yesterday I had to make about 3 rounds of the grocery store because I kept skipping stuff on my list. And I stll forgot three things. And then today I was tooliing down the road to treatment with my old boss and realized I'd forgotten to put on my wig. Woops. No wonder I was cold.
Sister in law came over today with a 3 day old kitten she found in the grass outside the art center where she works. Sooooo cute. Of course, Nathan wants US to have it. I don't think our other cat would like it much.
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That reminds me. I've heard the fatique is bad on rads. How are you guys holding up? Are you going to be able to keep up a daily work schedule or is it too much? I am debating on whether to continue at Mayo with the rads or have it locally. The way you talked about it being an art, I am almost afraid to have it here. It will be during the holidays and I will be off close to 3 weeks anyway counting Thanksgiving and Christmas. I am thinking about just taking off and doing it in JAX and doing whatever work I can do there.
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Janie, I haven't really had that problem. I did come home yesterday and take a nap, but that's primarily because I've been sleeping poorly because of the hot flashes. All last week and up through Sunday I didn't get fatigue because of rads. But not sleeping much caught up with me yesterday morning. After a little shuteye (and a pretty decent sleep last night) I felt fine.
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HiGirls, I just typed in and had it all done and it was suddenly gone. My Rad. and Onc. said the rads. build up on you and the last couple wks. I would be tired a lot. I have to get a mam. done and see my serg. on Fri. for a 6 month check. Its not 6 months yet but I will be doing rads. so he wants to do mam. and see me early as late. Gotta go, later, Mary
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Good luck with that mammo on Friday, Mary. I don't have one, I think, until early next year. Maybe the rads make it harder to read so they want to do it now?
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