Anyone starting Chemo in August 07?

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  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007
    Ggma,

    Sorry to hear that you had so much trouble! I had my 1st tx of 4 with TC on Tuesday, and will probably be getting a port put in next week, because it was hard, and it took 2 nurses 3 or 4 sticks, to finally get the IV in! Not too bad, though, since that was the only thing I had trouble with... except that my dr. didn't understand my insurance, and he wanted to switch me from TC to AC, and I said NO WAY! I won, and finished the 1st tx without too much trouble.

    When are you going back for another try?? I hope everything goes smoothly next try. Keep us posted!

    Good luck!

    Hugs
    HARLEY
  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007

    4kidsmom,

    I'm thinking about you, and praying that all goes well with your tx!

    Let us know how it goes! I'm sending you lots of positive thoughts!!!...

    Hugs
    HARLEY
  • JellicleCat
    JellicleCat Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2007
    Hi Ladies,
    It's been a rough week, and wow has our group grown! Welcome everyone, we will get through this and laugh one day at the obstacles life tried to place in our path.

    The weekend with Mom wasn't what it was suppose to be. I didn't get to play on the beach, and I lost $$$ at the casino she picked in the middle of Oregon. My husband told me she would do something like this too, so I should have known. She means well - - but shoot, when do I get to take care of ME?

    This week has been a bowl of cherry pits. My dentist appt., was suppose to be awful - - but shoot, they pulled 4 teeth!! 4 of them!!! I was only suppose to have 2 pulled, and a few fillings. My mouth bled all night, and I had to go back for more stitches. I miss food so much right now. All I can have is pudding, yogurt & jell-o.

    1 week until chemo, and I think I'm winding myself up. May be it's time for some more Xanax. All of you are inspiring to me - - I'm coming to believe that getting ready for chemo is actually worse than chemo itself. I'm actually looking forward to the worse thing being throwing-up a few times and some discomfort in my joints...

    O.K. Pity Party over - - - My hair party is this weekend! Saturday I go for the manicure/pedicure and at 3:30, my family and a couple of friends will join me at the salon to party while my head gets 'buzzed' - - I'm thinking of carving flowers into the side... my friend suggested "PIMP" or a "lightning bolt"... I decided those were a bit much.

    I think of you all every day - - Take care of yourselves, and remember your strength :-)

    Enjoy whatever you want - We deserve it!
    Love, Michelle
    Let peace be your mind, love be your heart... and you too may shine like the sun...
  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007
    Michelle,

    Thanks! I hope you are feeling better soon... Tooth problems are the pits!

    When do you go again for your next tx?

    hugs
    HARLEY
  • 4kidsmom
    4kidsmom Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2007
    well it's nearly 24 hours since my first treatment and I feel as good as I did before it! No nausea, nothing. Am I being optimistic or will it hit me later? I've been flooding my body with fluids, sucking on peppermint candy and eating lite meals. I hope eveyone has a good first experience as i did yesterday. I really believe attitude is 90% (if not more) of how you feel, I went in yesterday believing i would NOT become sick nor will I. I will continue to believe that. I still continue to get all my strength from God, not once has He left my side since day 1 of diagnosis. Of course, He has always been there, but I never really leaned on Him as much as I do now.

    Hugs to all my sisters are there.
  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007

    Hi 4kidsmom,

    Glad to hear that your 1st tx went well! Mine went without much trouble also, as I had my 1st TC tx on Tuesday. I had some diarrhea, but after I finally took an Immodium yesterday evening, before dinner, it seems better. I'm having some dry eye se's, but I'm using Optive and Systane drops, and I had these issues before, but not so severe.

    Take care. I believe that God is by my side through all of this, you are right. HE has never left me, has ALWAYS been here with me! I nearly had to get AC, since Adriamycin is less expensive, and my onc. wanted to save money since he's not getting much from my insurance, but I stood up to him, and it was GOD who helped me, since I am not strong, but with GOD, all things are possible.

    Hugs
    HARLEY
  • mtlion322
    mtlion322 Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2007
    Okay, I just went to the onc today, they told me next week the 15th, I will have my education class and I will find out my drugs of choice and then on friday they will insert my port, and the day I defineitly was not looking forward to is 08-23-07 for 6 cycles! But all of this really is worth it, after talking to the doc, I went frm 1 cm to 2 plus cm and from slow growing to aggressive! There was a couple of positive things though:
    1)er/pr pos
    2)her/neu:neg
    3)the chemo will help w/my crohns and arthritis
    4)I get the wig of choice for my birthday the following week
    so I am ready for the wedding!
    5)no lymph node involvement
  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited August 2007

    hi, my name is jackie and i'm starting chemo on 8/15/07. i do not have a port. am i the only one? i will take all your tips and any advice. i'm so nervous. i'm 46 yrs old with 2/13+nodes, stage II rbc. my daughter is 20 and my son is 13. i pray for all of you with little children. mine are self-sufficient and i know this makes it easier. any advice?

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007
    jackie,

    I didn't have a port for my 1st ts of TC, either. I will see my surgeon on Tues., to see about scheduling a port because it was hard, it took 2 nurses 3 or 4 sticks to get it in. Others have had no trouble without a port, though. I am very thin, and the nurses keep trying to stick it in my bones!

    Drink LOTS of water!! Take a book, and some snacks and more water with you, and just sit and relax while the infusion goes... maybe even bring some headphones and music. I'll try that next time. I have an armband radio, so I'll see if that works... Oh also, bring some meds for any other side effects you may have... something for a headache, other nausea meds, etc... There is a thread with things to pack when packing a chemo bag and it's helpful.

    Good Luck! I'll be thinking about you!

    hugs
    HARLEY
  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007

    Cindy,

    You can do it!!

    I see my surgeon on Tues. to try to schedule my port, I had the 1st tx of TC without a port, and I know it will be easier with a port, so I guess I'll have to get another surgery...

    You can do it!! It isn't fun, but we are strong, and we can do it! God has been with me through it all, helping me to get through it...

    Take care. I'll be thinking of you... Just take one day at a time, and we'll get through this!

    hugs
    HARLEY
  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited August 2007
    Hi Everybody, (Welcome, Jackie!)
    Before I tell you of all the good stuff I learned (the hard way, duh) I want to confess that I am a Message Board Idiot. I'm not sure of the "right" way to do it, so I'm just going to post to the last post, even if I'm addressing everyone, not just that particular person. (Unless someone clears it up for me.)It was making my head hurt. (Wait. That was the Taxotere...nevermind.)

    WELL...I have been having trouble with my "seroma" ("m-m-m-my Seroma" - sung to the tune of "My Sherona") but, I digress. (A “Seroma” is the gathering of lymphatic fluid under the arm that occasionally occurs when the drainage tube is removed.) My tube had been in for 4.5 weeks and hovered around 40ml the whole time. Typically, after a week or two they get down to 25ml in a 24 hour period which means the fluid has found another place to go. After 4 weeks they take the tube out even if it hasn’t because the risk of infection outweighs …I forget. The risk of Lymphoma? Something like that. So a week after it was removed I went back in to have the excess fluid aspirated (painless) and they removed 115ml. They thought that was a lot. So within one week it had filled up again, and I was asking my onc if I could have someone aspirate it where I live so I didn’t have to drive 2 hours to my cancer center. She “strongly advised” me against it, and said to go see my surgeon (at the same center) because she wanted my labs done first to see how low my WBC was. Sure enough it was extremely low, and the nurse explained that there is a period 7 – 10 days after the infusion called the “nadir” where you are in “neutropenia” when your WBC are the lowest point. You have a severely compromised immune system, and at that point you must be very diligent to avoid any possible bacterial infections…no gardening, no paper cuts, (darn!) no standing water, avoid crowds, people with colds, pets (scratches, cat boxes). That type of thing. I was at day 8, and felt fine. By day 9 and 10 (today) I felt like a truck hit me, broke every bone in my body, and then rolled back over me while laughing. It feels just like the flu. Achy, headache…general malaise. (nice word, huh?)
    She had said to call immediately if I developed a fever of 100.5, or cold, shaking chills (even without fever.) I haven’t developed any of those thing (yet), but, wow. I felt bad enough without them!

    So, I really feel for you teachers…I never see anyone in my job, so I’m seldom exposed to any germs. Our shop manager (sweet kid, 24 yrs.) had a cold so he wore a painting mask all day! I didn’t even ask him to – he just was being considerate!)

    I don’t know if that’s for all chemo meds, or just mine (Taxotere/Cytoxan), but be careful out there, ladies!

    Just because I know you want to know...they aspirated 250ml that second time! I'm afloat in my own goo!
    Kaye
  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited August 2007

    harley and kaye: i guess i'll try it without the port because the onc didn't say anything. i'm packing my bag already. i'll keep you posted. thanx for your help and info, jackie

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited August 2007

    harley, i'm a spastic when it comes to message boards and so forth, where can i find the thread about the what to pack for a chemo bag?.......help, jackie

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited August 2007
    CHEMO GOODIE BAG (I just cut and pasted this from a thread I did up above.)
    o Most importantly: the Rx’s I would need that day (the Steroid, the Zofran (nausea) and Compazine (break-through nausea). No guarantee when you’d finally be out of there, so better to have it on hand. They can give you those things IV, but again, I liked having it close.
    o 3 or 4 liters of water (my onc and nurse said to drink 3-4 liters a day to pre-hydrate, and as follow up to flush the chemo out. My nurse said Gatorade wasn’t so good bc it was harder on your kidneys, but I’ve heard it recommended by others, so…ask them about your particular situation.
    o Advil/Aleve. Not that they won’t have any there, but I liked knowing I had it.
    o Something to DO! A dvd player and cute movie and/or a Book you’ve been wanting to read but didn’t have the time. A lot of people recommended “cheesy” novels or magazines (something light?) I wanted something I could lose myself in so time would pass quickly and it worked for me, (I brought both) but we’re all different. Crossword/Activity puzzles?
    o Peppermints/gum – something to suck on if you get a strange taste in your mouth.
    o A little comfy pillow. They have blankets.
    o Kleenex. Why did my nose run continuously for 3 hours?
    o Chocolate. No explanation needed. (and enough to share! There are chocolate-deprived people in there who need a little TLC!)
    o Some nuts and a snack for my husband…

    I put mine in an airline bag with wheels...so the water didn't break my arm.

    We're rootin' for you, Jackie!

    Kaye!
  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited August 2007
    Cindy, Do you kids still live at home?
    Kaye
  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited August 2007
    Cindy, by "you", I meant: "your". (The same creatures that ice-skated on my tongue, have bitten all my fingers off.)
    sorry.
    k.
  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited August 2007

    kaye, thank u so much. i'm getting a muga scan on monday and then i'll go shopping. i'm so happy i found you girls. it's great to have people who know what they're talking about!....has anyone had a muga scan? have a great day, jackie

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007

    jackie,

    Sorry, but I haven't been on the boards today, but I see that Kaye found the info. about the chemo bag.

    Sorry I wasn't much help.

    I haven't had a scan, maybe I should ask my onc about it? He isn't very nice, and he may say NO since he's trying to save himself some money...

    I guess I'll have another fight on my hands!

    Sorry, I forgot... is your first treatment today? Good Luck!

    hugs,
    HARLEY
  • mtlion322
    mtlion322 Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2007
    Jackie, sorry you had to join our grp, but welcome, you will never find such a wonderful support team! It is like we are all in the same room having a ladies day!
    Kaye, my 21yr old, that is getting married, i know I keep saying that, but I am so proud, and he is a nice guy! Well, this last month before the wedding she is staying with him! He had a house w/roommates and now he is trying to make a home for them, so my wonderful, beautiful,HEADSTRONG DAUGHTER is there directing the project!
    My wonderful comidian 25yr son will always stay with me, until God takes me home, cause he is special needs! He told me that if I have to go, he has his stepfather that he loves and wants him to stay and my 2brothers!

    Hey, I have the same question, can someone explain the threads process?

    Jackie, how did your muga go, I still have to have that test done, probably this week sometime? Is it like getting mugged? LOL sorry bad sense of humor!

    Harley, I know God won't let me down, like the pastor said when God promised life, he did not promise a bed of roses and he would not have blessed me with my son Kurt, or to finally lead me to my soulmate just a little over 4 yrs ago!

    So all is good, next week, it is doc, doc and hospital, whew I am just tired thinking about it!

    Thanks again for the tips on the chemo bag! I HAVE MY CHOCLATE!!!` Maybe it will be like when I used to get my remicade, and I wil just start reading and drift off to sleep! That was similar to a chemo drug (just weaker like the onc said), cause I noticed more hair coming out when I brushed it and I almost felt like I was starting menopause then!

    Well, thats all for know, I know I have talked everyones ears off!

    Stay strong, Laugh loud and Love hard(like no tomorrow)

    Your sister in chemo funk
    Cindy
  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited August 2007

    i'm starting chemo on wens. 8/15/07 and getting muga scan on 8/13/07...i'll let you know the results..i grew up in manhattan so i hope muga scan is not like getting mugged(that was really funny, cindy!!) i'm already feeling shaky inside and i haven't started anything yet!! i'm glad i found all of you. thanx for the response. have a good night, jackie

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007
    jackie,

    I haven't had a muga scan... should I be getting one? I am wondering if my onc is trying to save money again. I guess I'll have to ask him on Aug. 28th when I go for my 2nd treatment...

    Good Luck! I'll be thinking of you Wed. I have bloodwork!

    HARLEY
  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007

    Cindy,

    I know that God is here with us, helping us through this bc experience.

    Sorry to hear that your son has been given so many challenges!

    Good luck with your daughter's wedding! Glad that she's found a nice guy! My dh is a wonderful guy, and I know that God found him for me, I just wish he could be here with me... he's in the Navy, stationed in DC, so when we moved to NC, he had to stay behind. He comes down when he can, but it's so lonely here without him. I feel like I'm going through this alone, since he can't be here for the 1st or 2nd tx! But, he was here for a few days, and he just left this morning to go back to DC. I'm always very depressed when he leaves. But, he'll be back on Wed., because he requested special liberty, so he can go with me to some of these dr. appts., and we are hoping he can be here when they put my port in. I'm not sure they can do it on Thursday, but I'll ask. I think it will have something to do with my blood counts. They are usually down 7 - 10 days after treatment, so they may not be able to do the surgery then. That will mean that I'll have to have the surgery without him, and I just don't want to, even though it is a minor surgery.
    What is with this MUGA scan? My dr. hasn't mentioned any scans for my heart, and I think I better ask.

    Sorry for rambling, I was up early to see my dh off, and now feel kind of 'wired'.

    Life is so precious, we have to do all we can to beat this bc beast!!

    Good Luck!
    God Bless,
    HARLEY
  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited August 2007

    harley, try to stay strong and calm(i know that's easy for me to say, i haven't started chemo yet). a muga scan is a test for your heart, it's not mandatory for my age(46 yrs)but i am getting that adramycin and it can be toxic to your heart, i know you are not getting that maybe that's why u don't need the test. i'm sorry your dh(what does that stand for?) is not around to be there for you.that really sucks.we all want the one we love the most around.i think when i go thru things alone it makes me a stronger woman(that's after it's over with!!!LOL). i hope your blood is good on weds and you get your port asap.hang in there. you sound sad today and all your threads keep me going, so don't get down....thanx, jackie

  • Ggma
    Ggma Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2007

    It sure helps to read all these posts of everyone who has started their chemo and gotten along so well! I was supposed to start the 8th, but due to an infection in my port, it's been postphoned to the 15th. We'll try again this week! It's hard to get done when you can't even get this ride started!!!

  • Harley44
    Harley44 Member Posts: 5,446
    edited August 2007

    jackie,

    I am feeling better, thanks for your kind words! I guess I was kind of depressed, thinking about losing my hair soon. I just think that losing my breasts was one thing, I was always small, and I am having reconstruction, but the hair, too?? Why, oh why? These are the things that make me a woman!

    DH means Dear Husband... although sometimes, I have other names for him! lol

    I don't know why, but I thought everyone was getting Taxotere & Cytoxan. That makes sense now. I guess maybe I won't need the MUGA... I read that this TC can also be a bad combo for the heart, but will have to research further.
    I am 44...

    I'll be thinking of you on the 13th & the 15th! Hope your mugging (MUGA) goes well, and your 1st treatment is a breeze!

    Good Luck!
    HARLEY
  • kidsmom
    kidsmom Member Posts: 55
    edited August 2007
    I also am having Adriamycin and had a MUGA prior to starting. They gave me a injection, I waited about 30 minutes then laid on an extemely skinny bed and they took three different pictures of my heart. Each picture took about 10 minutes. It wasn't painful or uncomfortable, the equiptment is extremely close to your body and head so that wasn't great. I have had lots of people tell me to demand that another MUGA be done after chemo is completed to make sure no damage to the heart occurred or if it did I'll be away and can have it monitored.

    My next treatment is this Friday. I feel good the past couple days again much more energy and food sounds good.

    My mouth is developing a funky feeling though?? Anyone else have this? No sores, just a bumpy feeling and drinks don't seem to taste quite right. Its better than that metallic taste I had for 4 or 5 days after my first Tx.

    Good wishes to all,
    Kidsmom
  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited August 2007

    thanx for the info. i'm going tomm afternoon and now i know what to expect. i had no idea. feel better. good luck on friday.....jackie

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited August 2007
    harley, i feel the same way about my hair. i luv my hair and it's not fair we have to lose it!! i must say, i don't miss my breasts at all. they were big and bothersome!thanx for clearing up dh.that's so sweet.i'll be in touch soon....
    stay positive...jackie. when is your next treatment???
  • burquie
    burquie Member Posts: 129
    edited August 2007
    Hello ladies!
    I am from the June '07 group. I just wanted to let you all know that you will get through this. The anxiety before starting your treatment is absolutely normal; it does ease up once you have started. I am now halfway through my chemo treatments. I did 4 dd AC and I start 4 dd Taxol this week. And yes, I am anxious again about the Taxol, it will be a "wait and see" how this one goes week for me. I just wanted to offer some encouragement to you all..... everyone on this site is wonderful and will give you whatever advice you need; there are many that have battled this beast before us, and we too shall be victorious!

    Bonnie
  • kericostello
    kericostello Member Posts: 16
    edited August 2007
    Hi August 07 ladies! I will be joining you as well on August 15. We will get through this together!

    I will be doing 6 treatments of TAC (Taxotere, Adriamycin, Cytoxin) 3 weeks apart. I'll get Nuelasta the next day after my treatments.

    I am trying to prepare by drinking lots of water and taking my Pepcid like my chemo nurse suggested. (She said start taking it 2 days before and stop on 5th day).

    I'll start taking my Decadron tomorrow and then my Emend and Compazine the day of. I hope all this stuff really works for the side effects! I'm just doing what she tells me!

    I have my three wigs rip-roaring and ready to go. I need to pick up scarves today and a few hats. I have already been wearing my wigs around town to prepare myself so it is not as traumatic when I lose it all and feel like I have to wear the wig. Who knows, maybe I'll feel brave enough to rock it bald! I've seen so many women look beautiful and strong without covering up. We'll see!

    Lots of love and light to everyone!

    Keri :-)

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