Another bathing suit/swimming dilemma
I've got a couple of mastectomy suits, I've got swim forms, so I'm ready to hit the beach. But here's my question: I've been invited to a friend's beach house for the day. I usually show up with a towel and my bathing suit. But that was last year, before bilateral mastectomies. Now I'm wondering what to do with two sets of breast forms. If I wear my regular silicone ones down to the beach, do I need to bring the silicone swim forms in their special (bulky) molded containers? And then when I change into my suit, do my regular forms have to go into their regular molded containers or can they lie flat for a couple of hours? No way will I bring FOUR containers, but even two will be awfully bulky. Just wondering whether any of you have found a good solution for your forms at the beach or when traveling generally?
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I was told I could use either pair of my Amoena silicone forms for swimming, even though they're not specifically marketed as swim forms. Just a thought ...
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Hi Barbara,
Ok, too creepy. I just had this exact same dilemna today! Had to bring my girls to the pool and stay there for 1/2 hour. Then I had to leave for the dentist (while the girls stayed with a friend at the pool). Then, back to the pool after the dentist. I did not want to wear my bathing suit to the dentist so I changed into my clothes and regular prosth. before I left, then back to the bathing suit and swim ones upon my return.
To answer your question: I had a bag that I brought with my change of clothes. It is a bag that anyone would bring to the beach or to the pool. The bag has a small zipper compartment. When I took off my bathing suit I kept the swim form in the pockets and just folded the top and put it in the zipper part. I did the same thing when I changed back. Just left the reg. prosth. in the bra and put it in the zippered area of the bag.
Ok, and here is another thing. I hardly ever put my fake boob in the container. Usually I just leave it in the pocket of the bra that I will be wearing the next day. So, I don't think that not having them in the container would be a problem. -
Question about swim suits.
Is there a suit for those of us who want to get in the water but don't want to use "forms" in the swim suit? -
Not exactly answering your question but I don't use my prosthesis forms for swimming. I use the bath scruchies. They work wonderfully, you can safty pin them in if you want or need to, no need to worry about ruining them and they are so comfortable. If they are to big you can cut them down do size as long as you don't cut through the center. Not hassle packing and changing!
Hugs
Vickie -
Thanks Vickie. I don't know though. I am so scared to put on a suit with my chemo stomach. Makes me so mad.
We are going on a wonderful trip in the Fall so I have time to find a suit. I've been reading about Lands End on here. Does everyone recommend it? -
You know what...who cares about your chemo stomach...you fought the beast and won and you are beautiful. Where whatever suit you like with pride and joy. I have heard good things about Lands End suits but haven't bought one there myself.
hugs
Vickie -
I use the bath scrunchies too, in a Land's End suit. It has pros pockets, so I don't need to pin them, and I never take them out. They dry out quickly and don't cause the suit to stay wet, so there's no worry about rot or mold or whatever. Lightweight, too, so they don't drag the suit down.
I love my Land's End suit, which is two separate pieces. Since I have chest lymphedema I especially like that it comes up high under the arm and across the chest. In the water, lymphedema is not a problem (because of the slight extra pressure and movement of the water), but with the Land's End suit I can sit out poolside if I want to and there's enough gentle compression to keep the swelling in check. LOVE IT!
Cheryl, I agree with Vickie -- I really hope you'll find whatever you need to let yourself love every moment of your trip and leave the self-consciousness waaaaaay behind!
Binney -
Erica, my fitter suggested that I could leave my forms hanging in a bra at night, or nestle them into a "nest" of soft clothes. (A friend of mine keeps hers among the socks in her underwear drawer.) So for traveling I put them among my clothes, and you could certainly do that in a tote as well. Just make a little "shape" with whatever you have in there (towel, wrap, sweatshirt, etc.) and tuck the prosthesis into it so it's supported a bit (nipple down, like in the container.) What you don't want to do is lay them down for long on their flat side on a flat surface -- they sorta "sink" out of shape.
Hope that helps!
Binney -
Erica (do you go by Erica or Barbara?), I have the same advice as Binney and Carol. I like to travel light so I wore my regular forms and then put my swim form in the suit and stuck it in the middle of my other clothes. I never bring the big boxes with me though I do store the forms in them when I'm at home.
For a day trip, you might want to try wearing your swim forms all day. You could towel them off after getting out of the water and stuff a scrunchie into the hollow space. I haven't tried this myself but you could do a dry run at home before you leave.
Have fun at the beach! -
Hi, I have both an Amoena "regular form" and a "swim form"...I was told that I could wear the "regular" form to swim on an occasional basis (like travel), just be sure to rinse it/them well after use (especially if used in a pool or salt water). I also never use the what I call "snow globe" protective suit cases...my fitter said just be sure to store it "nipple down" and away from the cat (pet punctures are not covered by the warranty!..soo they sleep in the sock drawer that my cat can no longer open.
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Thanks, everyone, for all your advice. I knew I'd get help here!
Regarding bath scrunchies, I've read about them here, but just haven't seen anything in stores that wouldn't look lumpy in a suit. Is there a picture online of what you use?
Regarding the Land's End suits, although I already have an Anita and a Classique suit, I decided to try a Land's End one, too, which just arrived yesterday. It's great! It's a tankini. The front part of the tank top does come up rather high, but that means I won't have to worry about what's showing when I bend over. And my DH thought it looked really cute. I love my other two suits (which I use for pool swimming), but for my first day at the beach, I think this one will provide a bit more "protection." By the way, I actually ordered two different tankinis, both same size. One fit great, the other didn't and wasn't flattering, either. So I'll send that one back. Like everything else regarding post-mastectomy, I guess finding swimsuits involves a lot of trial and error. Also, I've heard that Sears now carries Land's End suits. I doubt they have mastectomy suits, but I guess we could try on the non-mastectomy versions and see if they fit properly.
As for swimming with my regular prosthesis, since I have an Airway that's silicone but with a microfiber back, I'm a little worried about doing that. It would probably be fine, but I don't want to take the chance with salt water. Susan, I have occasionally used my swim form in a regular bra, so using that for double-duty is a possibility.
Thanks for all your helpful comments about how to travel with forms. I tend to be an extra-careful type, so have been carefully putting the forms in their plastic nest every night. But I'll experiment with other alternatives like socks, towels, and other clothes.
Regarding my name, when I first joined the boards, after my 2003 diagnosis, I was shy about revealing my name, so chose Erica as my username. But I've long ago gotten over my shyness. My real name is Barbara. -
I go to the pool daily and have long ago given up the swim form. It was too heavy and usually migrated far south of the other boob (even in the mastectomy suits). The mastectomy suit took FOREVER to dry out, so I got annoyed.
I have evolved to a regular suit that I sewed one of the prosthesis covers into. I put a bath scrunchie into it and away I go. I replace the scrunchie every few months, doesn't seem to matter what kind I use, and no one has ever noticed anything..... -
I love the Lands End tankinis, and can't say enough good things about them! They provide the coverage I need - high neck and tummy coverage, with the convenience of a two piece (getting in and out of a one piece with a breast form in it was a trick). Even if the style you like doesn't come in a mast suit, just sew in a pocket. Also, if you order something and want to return it, return it to Sears, much easier than dealing with the post office or UPS. When you find a style you like, buy extra. I bought 4 suits over the years of a style I loved, and they discontinued the top. I would have panicked, except I knew that I would eventually find another top that would work. I found two Nautica tops that work, and then Lands End came out with more tops that I like, so "Life is good". Also, I have worn my swim form in a jockey bralette. Since the fit is snug, it keeps it in place. This way if I'm going to a pool, I don't have to bring multiple boobs with me. I have tried making a boob out of shower scrubbies, but wasn't too successful just yet. Two scrubbies were sacrificed in the making of a boob, but it wasn't realistic. I sometimes use the scrubbies to fill in the hollow space inside the form to avoid "boob farts" when lying on my stomach or when someone hugs me. We do get creative when we have to.
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Kimmie,
I can totally relate to the desire to just put it on and go--no fuss, no heavy breast forms. After reading all these posts, I experimented a little more and found that my Amoena leisure forms (style 126) fit perfectly in my new Land's End tankini. They're unweighted and inexpensive (at least compared to silicone!). Plus, being foam, they dry quickly. So I think I'm all set for my beach day. Now, if only the fog would burn off . . . -
OLB,
Where do you get the pockets that you sew into regular suits? I'm not a great sewer but think I could handle that if I had ready-made pockets to work with. I have a couple of pre-mastectomy suits that would still work for me if I could manage to sew pockets in them.
I agree about buying extra suits if you find one you like. I find I'm very insecure about having enough mastectomy stuff--I've bought more bras since my surgery than I probably did during the rest of my life (and I'm 58!). I found one I particularly like and now have four of them!
I think I'll take your advice and order a second suit of the new Land's End one I like. I already do that with shoes, as I have very hard-to-fit feet. Comes in very handy when they discontinue a style that's actually comfortable. -
Barbara, here's some sew-in pockets from TLC catalog on-line:
http://www.tlcdirect.org/products/product.aspx?sku=7576
And here's a site that someone pointed out earlier for good on-line instructions for making your own pocket patterns. I was scared to try it but finally did and found it really simple and a great fit (hope the link works!):
http://www.taunton.com/threads/pages/t00112.asp
So glad you've solved the beach problem. These things take so much determination and stick-to-itivity!
Binney -
Just an FYI regarding Lands End suits and Sears. You can return the suit to a Sears and get full credit. I am fortunate as I have a Sears store close to me.
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Barbara,
I usually make my own pockets out of a cheap slip I bought. I just cut it into pieces and sew them into the cups. Or, when I can't be bothered, I take my suits to the local bra store and they will sew pockets for $15 wich I think is a little high, but they do a much better job than I do. I have seen pockets on www.parkmastectomy.com and have thought of trying them. That has to be easier than making the pockets myself and would be cheaper than having someone else do the sewing. I just got the Amoena leisure form (126) and love it. It works with some of my suits that have thin straps that can't support the weight of my regular swim form. I also am very insecure about having enough mast stuff, and now that I know the amoena 126 works so well for me, I think I'll get another one. It never hurts to have a "backup boob"! I have so many "cookies" and "enhancers" in my quest to "build a boob" it's crazy. Now that I found the amoena 126 works for me, maybe I can get rid of all the excess. -
OLB,
I've posted a number of times on various threads about using the Amoena 126, but you're the first person I've read about here who also uses it. I got the idea from a woman I met before I had surgery. She'd had bilaterals and had tried silicone but didn't want the weight. She uses the 126's for everything. She said sometimes she just sews a pair into her bathing suit. She said the unweighted forms made her feel "free" and she was part of the reason I decided not to do recon. For me, like you, I've found that having a variety of options helps. Sometimes I like the softer feel of silicone. I also use the Still You forms, called Illusions. They are very light and soft, but only work in some of my bras.
I'm glad to hear the 126's work with unilateral mastectomy. I wasn't sure about the balance issue if you still have one breast.
Thanks for suggesting Park Mastectomy. I've actually ordered some things from that site (Janet, who runs it, is very nice), but never noticed the pockets.
I agree with you about simplifying. I have larger size silicone prostheses that I almost never wear, plus a few bras that don't fit right. Once I get over the need to have lots of "backup", I plan to donate them so someone can get use out of them. -
Barbara,
Have you worn your Amoena 126's in a hot tub? I would like to be able to when on vacation, but don't want to have "the incredible shrinking boob"! -
OLB,
I haven't done that, but I have washed them in the washing machine (front loader, so no agitator). No problem there. Maybe you could soak them in very hot water as an experiment and see how it goes.
I do have backup 126's, in case of disaster. I just got back from the gym, where I walked for an hour on the treadmill, wearing my size 4 126's in a Still You bra. I worked up quite a sweat everywhere else, but my chest was nice and cool. I still feel kind of sad in the locker room, when I see other women parading around naked, but I'm getting over it. Glad to be alive and exercising!
Have a great vacation! -
I have a question regarding the 126s...can you swim in them? I will just be at the pool with my son so not swimming every day but maybe a couple times a week.
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The woman who originally recommended the 126's to me is an avid swimmer and has been using hers to swim with for years. She said she usually buys regular bathing suits and either pins or sews the forms in. I haven't yet tried swimming with mine, but she says they're just fine. The Land's End suit I recently bought looks better with the 126's than with my silicone swim forms, so I hope to try swimming with them soon.
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After reading the success stories I have just ordered the Leisure foam form #126.
PLEASE tell me it isn't as hot as my Amoena silicone! We are having record high temperatures in BC and my bra (on the mastectomy side) is constantly wringing wet.
Also wondering if anyone uses covers on breast forms.
Barbara, No sweating on the treadmill !! I can't wait!
This thread has helped me so much. Thanks to all who have posted.
Sassi -
Sassi,
Definitely NOT hot, nothing like the silicone, just cool cotton backing on an unweighted foam form. Not as soft as silicone, of course, but I like the shape of them.
I gather you had a single mastectomy. I'm not sure how it will look with your regular breast. With bilaterals, they look quite natural and (of course) symmetrical. Which bra you use will probably make a big difference. BTW, I wear my 126's in unpocketed bras as well as pocketed ones.
I also like the other inexpensive solution I found, Still You Illusions -- http://www.parkmastectomy.com/Merchant2/...tegory_Code=SBF
They're under fifty dollars and come with an empty curved cup to use on the healthy breast so they'll match. They run a bit big.
I feel like I'm on a crusade, but I think there are solutions out there to make our lives more comfortable (even my silicone forms have a microfiber back, so I don't sweat in those, either; I've mentioned them ad nauseum on this site, so PM me if you want more info). -
Erica:
You are a wealth of information and I look forward to all of your posts! I am 2 months out from a bi-lateral and your information has been very helpful. I am curious about the Still You Illusions and sizing as I see we use the same size in the 126s. How big do the Illusions run? -
Thanks Mellen. I'm so glad my posts have been helpful to you. I find myself feeling quite passionate about sharing information with others in our situation. And I feel that I've learned so much from other women here.
When I first ordered the Illusions forms, shortly after my surgery last October, I ordered size B, as I'd been a 34B before surgery. They felt huge to me, though, so I decided to try size A. They feel right to me, about the same size (though different shape) as the size 4 126's. For me, the big trick with the Illusions (like with various other forms) has to find the right bra. I wear mine with a little Maidenform bralette. The Illusions provide just the slightest amount of weight, enough to keep the bralette in place. Unfortunately, Maidenform has discontinued the style. I can wear them in other bras, too, so I'm sure that with a little trial and error, you could find one that works. -
May I add to the encomiums, Barbara? I just got a pair of Amoena 126s in the mail today, and they are, so far, way more comfortable than the silicon thingies I've abandoned after a couple hours. Ever thought about becoming a prosthesis consultant? You're very good at it ...
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I think Barbara is already our own personal prosthesis consultant! :>)
My payment is a ton of appreciation and gratitude for her terrific suggestions. Nothing beats first hand experience, does it? Thanks Barbara!
Just wanted to pass on the result of my continuing search for Radiant Impressions forms. ( I have read so much about the man who invented them for his wife -- she was apparently so distressed about finding a breast form that he decided to invent the "perfect" one for her. The result was the custon made RI prosthesis which has since become a multi-million $ company.)
I contacted the Radiant Impressions Co. to get information on their NON-custom made forms and the lady I spoke to was extremely helpful. Since that call, a friend told me about seeing these RI forms on Ebay. She ordered one and is ecstatic with the quality and fit. She paid $50 and it normally retails at $265.
Am thinking I will have to take over another dresser drawer just to store all this "must have" stuff. lol
Am still wondering if anyone uses cover on their forms.
Will keep checking in for more helpful hints ~~
Take care,
Sassi -
Hi, Sassi,
I always wear the covers on my prostheses, but I live in the desert so the heat is excessive. It's just much cooler and more comfortable for me with the covers on. They're often wet by day's end, but the bra isn't so I've never felt like prostheses were especially hot. The Radiant Impressions and the stick-ons, on the other hand, have a reputation here for being miserable in our heat. The only down side of wearing the covers is that you have to spend a moment in the morning smoothing them so they lie flat in the bra. They're easily washable and dry quickly, wear well, protect the silicone, and the backing is soft. What's not to like?
Hope that helps some!
Binney
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