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Thanks for the prayers, guys. I think I'll not find out results til Wed at earliest and probably not til Thursday.
Janie, thank God the power's back on. I feel so awful for everyone down in that part of the country. Good luck at chemo! -
We have arrived in JAX. The roads were fine. They built these long mounds along side I-10 after Frances closed the roads. They obviously worked. The interstate was open all the way this time.
I was born and raised in Northeast Tennessee so snow is no stranger to me either. Like Mary, I enjoy it for one or two holidays and then it becomes a pain. It never snows in South GA, just floods and spawns tornados.
We are getting ready to go to the dinner theatre. My 24 year old daughter wanted to see the Sinatra tribute. I'm sure I will enjoy it. I was surprised that she was really enthused over it. The people at this place almost always do a good job. I have to fast after 8:00 and no alcohol because of my early labs.
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Well PJB, I know its gonna be fine. Its so dumb they make people wait on those things. I mean in a case like this they could go ahead and read it but they take their sweet time.I got my shot today and left. It felt good to walk out of there on my own and not having my husband drag my sleeping butt out. I told him I bet hes glad I am off the steroids. I know I feel nicer already but the "change" I am sure my alter that a bit.I don't think it will be bad. My uterus has been gone since I was 23.Never missed that a bit.Lost all but 1/4 of 1 overy when I was 34 so I have done fine but always had my harmones with the little piece of ovary I had left. Now thats shutting down and I can't take any harmones but I think it will be fine.I am not a pill taker so I usually get by o.k. I don't understand why I can't take harmones if I am not a har.recepter tumor. Oh well frankly I don't think I would want to take them. I was on them over 2 years and I think they probably aren't good. I have osteopenia so I am gonna need something for my bones.Thats early osteoperosis. Its gonna get down to 38 Sun. night so you girls up north get your flannel jammies out. Janie it sounds like you are gonna have a great time. That ol blue eyes trib. sounds good. My daughters and I enjoy dinner shows.They usually have really good food. It will be a relaxing evening.I go back to 18 hours on wed. night. Thats gonna take some getting use to again.Later girls, Mary
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Janie, Sounds like a good time. Too bad about the having to skip the alcohol, etc. Hope all goes well down there.
Mary, I wonder why that is that they don't want you taking hormones if it's estrogen negative. My mom stopped taking her hormone stuff a couple years ago because she started getting worried that it might cause more problems than it resolved.
Sounds like you guys are in for a lovely cold snap up there. I'm kinda jealous, but I have to say I like to visit snow but I don't think I could ever live where it snowed again. That shoveling's for the birds. And you take care on those 18-hour shifts. That's gotta be rough with your body having been through what it's been through.
No one has put anything on my October rads board. Guess I jumped the gun. Well, I'll have something to post there in a couple days. The injection nurse I go to who does my blood tests from my port said she has a patient who's in law enforcement who had to go on leave after 3 weeks of rads because he got so tired. I figure maybe it's just because he's a man and isn't as tough as us women. -
PJB, I am like your mom I think it may be more harmful than good but I can't understand why it would hurt.Guess its the medical ambition in me I always have to know everything about something new.My kids always hated to ask me a question about medicine because I would explain it into the ground so they knew everything there was to know about a subject and God help them if I thought it required a diagram to explain.I will go and post since I have had my first apt. I think a lot depends on how much (Quantity) of radiation and the dept. they have to go. If its a cancer they can't remove like organ cancer I would think they would use stronger rays and there would be spill over to major organs and the cancer itself included could cause more fatigue We have a small area, and not a lot of dept and our tumor is gone so they don't have to shrink it so I would think we are getting a small amount. Now I will no doubt be bedfast the whole time.I don't know any of this for sure its my brain working over time but it sounds good huh? I will find out all there is to know eventually, thats what I do. Later girls, Sayinng some extra prayers for ya PJB, Mary
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PJB, I hope you find out something right away. The waiting is the worst. Sending good thoughts your way.
The tribute was really good. We had a good time.
Mary, I don't know if we are talking about the same thing but if we are: I am ER/PR negative. This means I have no hormone receptors so hormone therapy would do me no good because I have no receptors for the hormones to latch onto. On the stats sheet they gave me with my personal profile, it shows hormone therapy helping my survival rate zero percent.
I brought work with me. I have to have a report to Atlanta by Thursday. I guess I had better get my hind-end on it. I would prefer to go to bed. I sort of find it amusing to hear some people say they don't want to be treated as a victim. I find my demands are just as great as ever....once I'm at work...or even if I'm not. I have so many state and federal deadlines to meet and I'm the only one to meet them. It's not like I can hire a sub. Well, I have vented long enough. I may be typing during chemo at this rate. Have great day tomorrow ladies. -
It's a bright sunny 39 degrees this morning! Fortunately it will get to 68. It is good for sleeping since I don't wake up with hot flashes much anymore. Perfect day to go shopping- for my nieces bridal shower gift- after my accupunture appt.
PJB- Praying for good results on your tests. My son is in Galveston at school. He complains about the heat, but I would love it.
Janie- Keep up the good work meeting all those deadlines.
Mary- according to the Farmers Almanac we are in for tons of snow in January and February. I hope I get most of my daily rads appointments in before all that snow flies. We live in the country and they don't plow all that often because it drifts anyways.
Seems like most of the group is moving on or already in Rads. Mine won't start until the end of November... could be a long October/November.
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Renee, Brrrrr.... I guess my mom's probably not golfing in up there in Madison this morning, then. And I guess I can look forward to her probably visiting me down here sometime in Jan/Feb if the Almanac holds true...
While some of us do move on to rads pretty soon, we'll still be here for you. How many more to go for you, chemowise? You feelling OK?
Janie, man, I'm impressed you can keep up with all that stuff while doing chemo. Between you doing that and Mary working 18 hours at a time, I feel positively lucky.
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Janie, I wanted the harmones for hot flashes but mostly my bones, to prevent osteoperosis. As we go through the change and due to steroids our bones become thin and we get osteoperosis.I already have osteopenia which is the early stage of osteoperosis. We get a good amount of steroids with our chemo. Now the oncs. will say it doesn't hurt us but.... an Orthopedic doc. will say it does hurt our bones. Maybe they are taking no chances for us to develope a harmone receptive tumor. Oh well, I will take a bone building medication. Some of them are not pleasant but I will see about one. I was not harmone recep. either but that means our tumor was not feeding on the harmones to grow so putting us on harmone blockers would not make a difference in our cancer returning.Burrr, it was 39 degrees here this a.m. too. Well girls back to work. Mary
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Well, my last blood test (for awhile at least) came back OK. I'm told they don't do them much, if at all, during rads. I'll just have to remember to get my port flushed next month, I guess. Those of you with ports know when you'll get them out? I've got a LONG list of questions like that for my onc tomorrow. I'm sure he'll be thrilled with me again.
How's everyone feeling? I feel GREAT except for a little neuropathy. -
Renee, Thats me reading about the snow stuff. You hush girl. I think PJB and Janie should come visit us in Jan or Feb for a few weeks.You could use some help shoveling huh? PJB, glad your counts were o.k. I am a little achey I think from the arenesp or whatever the hattie it is I got yesterday. I just feel yecky.I am however getting some taste buds. I have to wait for the wk. end to get lobster because my husband works 6 nights a wk. and is up off and on all day so we never go anywhere through the wk. and we have to go to Springfield for labster. There aren't many restaurants here in Taylorville and what is here isn't anything to write home about. My poor legs have that fall out from under me feeeling,couple more days and I will be much better. Hopefully you hear something tomorrow PJB.You and Janie think about that snow visit. You probably miss the snow and the blistering frigid blowing wind?The kind that freezes your face and you can't get the smile off or talk until it thaws a little. Still a praying for ya, Mary
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Ha, Mary. I remember once when I went up to visit my mom when she lived in Rapid City, SD. (I'm a SD native) We land on the tarmac and the pilot told us it was a wind chill of 72 below. I really, really, really just wanted to stay on the plane and come back south. Instead, had to get out and walk across that tarmac. I mean, nowadays, if it only gets to 40-something, I"m freezing. Part of me wants to take Nathan up North so he can see real snow (altho we actually got a couple inches last year here), but most of me dreads that he'll actually want to stay out and play in it! Hope you get to feeling better. I had problems with that Aranesp when I had it, too. Just keep thinking about that delicious dinner this weekend. Paula
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Hmmmm! Lobster! Mary, enjoy every suculent drop of it! Top it off with a piece of key lime pie.
The temperatures are in the high 80's here. So hard to realize it is cold somewhere out there. Bottle up some of that snow and ship it this way to balance things out. It did spit a little snow in the community where I work about 3 years ago. It was 4:30 a.m. and people were calling waking everyone up to go see it before it disappeared!
I hope everybody is getting good news this week.
Got number 5 under my belt today. 7 Taxols to go. I had 5 separate appointments and everyone there was in such a good mood today. They are always nice but today they were in super good moods. I asked about lymph nodes because I have never quite understood that. I didn't know if the 19 they took was a mere sample, or if they took all they saw or what. The latter is true. He took all the ones he saw hoping he got all the bad guys. However, chemo will hopefully take care of any that were hiding. I actually did go to sleep today for the first time during the infusion. I woke up and had to make a quick beeline to the restroom. The beeper (finished) started going off while I was in there. I wonder if my Benadryl dosage got upped because of my slight reaction and swelling or if I were just particulary tired today. They have started doing the Decradron in a slow drip instead of pushing it. It works so much better. That reaction is not fun. That may be another reason I was able to sleep. That is what I'm "a fixin' " to do right now.
Oh, Mary, now I understand. I was barking up the wrong hormone tree. I took Prempro for several years and quit when all the news came out about it. There is some concern that it may cause cancer. I never really wanted to take it anyway but was talked into it several years ago. I don't think I will go that route again.
Good night ladies.
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Janie, Man, don't you hate those beeper things on the IV trees? You get a bunch of them in the same room and it's enough to drive one insane. Glad the infusion went well and I pray you don't have many pain, etc., troubles this round.
My scan was clean! The rad onc told me this morning. She said the nodule thing they saw is something that 90 percent of people have, just scarring, nothing to worry about. Whew. I was getting more worried as the days went by. Go to see regular onc this afternoon.
Hope you all are well. Mary, are you eating all the other things you missed during Taxol? -
PJB, great news, SOOOO glad your scan was clean.Lastnight I fixed fried Walleye, Coconut shrimp,mushrooms, green tomatoes,and french fries. I don't have all my taste buds back but saw onc. today and my mouth is raw, its a bit of allergic reaction.He said use my swish and spit crap for a couple days.I don't go back for 3 months.He gave me a big hug. I have worked with some of his pts. so I have known him for a few years.Hes a very personal and feeling Dr.I will however not miss my trips to his office at all.Well girls gotta go for now. Again PJB, So glad for you, did you get a pm or ps or message, (what ever its called)e-mail. Mary
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Mary, I did get your PM. And boy I wish I could have some of that walleye. I love it and of course we don't have that here. Take it easy.
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Great news Paula! Mary, Eat yourself silly.
I asked the onc yesterday about my bloated stomach. He said "You have a big ol belly because you're eating too much." Then he noticed I have not gained any weight, just a big belly. He said there is no way I will lose any weight the way they are pumping me full of steroids. He also said my hair would probably come back gray. He was just full of good news. -
Boy, Janie, is your doctor a silver-tongued devil or what? Do you have to continue having that many steroids?
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Janie, I asked my onc. about cutting down after the first Taxol knocked me out for hours and he did cut my benadryl and sreroid in half. My hair looks pure white right now. I had some grey but not bad just salted a bit.the fuzz is all white except for my Jay Leno patch of dark in the back.Who knows its hair and it can be dyed.Hey PJB, You come on up and I will fix ya some fish. We don't have walleye either I had to buy it. We have catfish, bass, crappie, perch and buffalo.I like walleye and salt water fish. I don't like fishy tasting fish.Theres too many farms and their deadly chemicals run off into our lakes and streams so I don't much like eating our fish. I do sometimes when my husband catches them but he goes but never catches much so I don't have to worry. They have walleye up north and someone we know lives up there and can cook us up some.You have a soccer game Sat? I do. Well I am at work and getting tired so I need to get some shut eye. Talk to you girls tomorrow. Oh I asked my oncy donky as I call him to myself, about the rads. and strength etc. He said the more I get the more tired I will get and by the 4th. wk. I will probably get tired pretty easy.Why didn't he tell me what I wanted to hear? o.k. more tired, I am tired of being tired you know? Oh well at least I wont throw up or hurt. Well I haven't stopped hurting so at least I wont throw up. Oh, crap I keep going, Janie My butt is bigger and I haven't put on weight! I had to suck it in to get my jeans on today. Well I asked Ol oncy donky about that and he said don't worry you need to put on a couple pounds. Ha!!! I can't go and buy all new clothes excuse me. Had I been able to process the reply by him I would of told him a thing or two. My chemo brain made me sit there and stare at him like I had no clue.I think the steroids did it. I have notice I haven't weighed in with my wig yet. I always have my do-rag and ball cap on so if I weigh more after a few days of food feasting I will assume my wig weighs 2 maybe 5 pounds? later girls, Mary
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Mary, let me tell you, these WIGS are heavy. I mean mine must weigh 5 pounds judging by the change on the scales. ...
So i asked MY onky donky (i love that) what the followup will be after rads. I asked about scans and testing those tumor markers I've read about. He said they pretty much don't do them. Here's the logic: the whatever registers the tumor markers goes up and down anyway, so if it goes up it might prompt them to do a bunch of potentially unnecesary scans/biopsies. as for regular scans (outside mammos) he says the following: we listen to the patients, don't rely on scans. we want to know everything that's going on from the patient. if something does come back somewhere (like bones, liver) it'll show up either as physical symptoms or in the cbc and other regular blood tests that they do. could it have been caught a month or two earlier on regular scans? he says. maybe, but the outcome won't be any different (that is, the chemo or whatever would still be the same) but that's a couple months you won't be consumed by the fear/treatment and you won't sweat having to get those bone/ct/whatever scans every 3 months. ... seemed a little weird to me (ok, and scary), but i guess when i think about it, i'm ok with it.
he also said if i stay in chemo/menopause for 2 years, i';ll switch from tamox to arimidex or something for the other 3.
i asked him, so we don't know if this stuff worked unless it doesn't come back? he said, just know you've done everything in your power to prevent that. if it comes back, we'll deal with it surgically or pharmaceutically.
also reminded me to get my flu shot and perhaps a pnuemonia shot. he also said he was proud of me because i pushed him to do dose dense chemo, when they had never really done it. he was hesitant because he thought i'd be sick the whole time. they've now started doing dose dense for some other patients.
sorry to prattle on so long. you guys have a good day. oh, and cheer on those red lizards (nathan's soccer team) in your head tomorrow. nathan says he can just feel himself out there getting lots of goals. (which he might, if he ever pays attention to where the ball/his team is) -
PJB, I will be sending mental goals to the Red Lizzards tomorrow. I love that name! My grandsons would too.I brought home a lizzard from Az. and it lived a year.Put it in a large pill bottle with air holes and had it in my pocket to get on plane. I was waiting to get searched and them find it and me be halled off to airport jail but thank God I didn't get chosen. My husband and I would go to Pet Smart and get things for him. We need a life! We called him Tempe cause thats where he was caught. He was a blue Whip Tail.My grandsons wanted him but my daughter is so anal about pets, she thinks they are too dirty and stinky. She was raised with pets don't know what happened to her.You got some good info. from your onky donky. I don't go back for 3 months. I was told the same thing I am basically on my own now.I think the dose dense is the only way to go. Get it over with quick.You know my onky isn't a bad looking donky.Just thinking out loud. Well gotta get back to work, GOOD LUCK NATHAN!!!! mary
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Renee, Janie, anyone else peeking in out there, how are things gonig? I'm hoping fewer posts means fewer pains....
Mary, I'm telling you those Red Lizards can use a little extra cheering. Nathan wore his soccer shirt all day today. And I guess he'll probably wear it all day tomorrow. I hope it doesn't just fall apart from being all smelly. You know, until Monday and rads, things seem pretty darn normal, altho I had an anxiety session today when I accidentally came across some statistics I wish I hadn't read. But I'm trying to forget I read them. -
PJB, you just pick yourself up.I have read sooo many stats. and I quit. I have read of women who had smaller tumors than me with no nodes and no her2 and they had cancer return in two months after treatment and some it was a year. I have read people who had a lot bigger tumors 5 cm. and lots of nodes pos. and her2 and they have been cancer free for 8 years or 10 years. Everyone is truley different and I think we have to just live because no one knows why it comes back on some and not others. The stats. are just numbers and they stop at 5 years so we can only look at them for a 5 year span. They don't take into account someone who died in a car accident or other illiness so there is a % that is counted as "gone" and they didn't go because of b.c. It may be 2% but add that 2% to 88% and it makes a little difference 90%. that looks better.I don't know how many sites I went to looking for her2 info. I found a lot of it but none was what I wanted to hear. I kept looking for something that would tell me I was going to live forever or at least until I wanted to go or maybe a site that said Mary you don't even have breast cancer its all a mistake. I realized I had no say in when or where or how. All I can do is live. Oh I still think about it a lot! but I stopped reading info because it can't tell me when I will die. It tells when others died and they may have heart trouble or diabetes or some other illiness that contributes to death as age isn't reported so there could be strokes who knows. We have as good a chance as anyone to live. Its kinda a like an airplane crash from 40000 ft. in the air. Two people sit side by side and one dies and one lives.We just don't know when we will die but no one knows. We do have the gift of knowing that we have to live like we mean it. It makes us a little more patient, a little nicer and a lot more appreciative of ourselves, others and the world around us.At least when the time comes we will have lived and enjoyed our worlds and not everyone can have that privilage. I think 10 years from now we will still be friends and talking about how we worried about the stats.Your are gonna be here when you become a grandma and you will be putting others fears to rest telling them how long its been since you were dxed. Thats us 10 years from now. Hugs, Mary
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PJB,I have the sun glasses as I will be 60 so I will probably have those big ol cateract sun glasses. Mary
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Mary, you made me cry with gratitude and then laugh my ass off. You have a special gift. Can I come live with you? Walleye and laughter, don't get much better than that.
You're right. Let's have a big old June chemo girls reunion in 10 years in, oh, Chicago. Better yet, let's have one in 5 years, 10 years and 15 years.... -
Hi girls,
PJB, I'm OK... a little stiff. My symptoms set in on Friday afternoons and the weekend is usually shot. No matter I have to drive 70 miles today.
I love the reunion idea. I have never been to Chicago and always wanted to go. -
You just come on up PJB, You might want to wait till spring now. Its in the 30's this a.m. and I have to head out to the soccer game in 15 mins. so I can make it to Springfield by 8:30.Its gonna be cold as heck out there this a.m. I had to go into work this a.m. and set up some meds. so I am running late naturaly.My daughter, boys and I are going out for breakfast and I may do a little x-mas shopping. Yea well if I get pooped from rads. I better do some early. I start in Oct. every year. I am nuts.I do a little off and on until its done. I better go get ready and YOU GO RED LIZZARDS. Hope Nathan gets a goal today. hugs, Mary
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Brrr.... It's a bit chilly this morning. It is great for sleeping- not many hot flashes!!!
Mary- you crack me up! I think a reunion in Chicago is a great idea. I love that city and it's an easy drive from here. It is beautiful downtown at Christmas.
PJB- sounds like things are going well for you too. I enjoy you keep us posted even though you've moved on.
I still have 2 taxotere left. Wish I would have found this board sooner to know about Dose Dense. Nothing I can do now, but anyone else I know that has to join this group will know about it.
Food is getting a bit tastier, but my tongue is sore and makes it hard to eat. This too shall pass. Lobster- makes my mouth water. Walleye sounds great, my son the great fisherman, keeps us in fish in summer and then whenever ice fishing starts, Ry is back from TX for break and we have 2 fishermen. The guys make a mean 'fish fry'
The youngest stopped home to do laundry and get a good meal yesterday. It is soooo quite around here with all 3 in college.
AHHh to hear those little voices fighting all day!
Have to clean my office today- no more excuses. I feel good- no more muscle or joint pain.
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Renee, Actually, it occurred to me that I'll be in Madison sometime in the summer (this bc crap canceled my usual trip up there this past summer). I"m usually up there about 10 days, and this trip we will spend a couple days in Chicago. That was the plan for the last non-trip anyway. Nathan's anxious to go to the Lego store... So maybe we can hook up. Mary, how far is Chicago from you?
Rads tomorrow. I'm a little nervous, but I guess that'll subside once I know what to expect every day. I was nervous as heck every time before each new kind of chemo drug, too.
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Good morning girls, PJB, I am 3 hours south so no big deal for me to get there.Did Nathan have a good game? We lost again. Our kids just were not into the game for some reason. I froze my butt off we had blankets over us. We had to turn the furnace on lastnight it frosted so it was pretty cold. I turned it down as its the good old half as#ed weather.Cold at night and warms up in daytime and thats a good thing.I hear Ya on the too quiet thing. Man, I have to chew my husband out once in a while because you are use to it after having kids all those years. You have to get after them every few minutes and then they leave home and this is something you have done for 26 years or more. Stop looking at your sister. Keep your hands to yourself. Don't stick your basketball socks in your sisters face. Clean your room or I'll throw everything in the trast.Someones got to get all the orders so hey its my husband.He likes I guess he is still here.You know I am so much more patient with the grandkids. Must come with age. Maybe I am so anxious to have a kid around again, a little laughter and fun.I know now kids grow up too fast and then they're gone so I am enjoying things now cause the grandkids too will grow up and be gone. I spent all day yesterday in Springfield. Two soccer games and eating(Olive Garden picked out by one of my grandsons)and a little shopping.I could hardly walk when I got home. Every muscle in my legs hurt. Nothing from the waist up ever hurts just the waist down.Well talk to ya all later, Hugs, Mary
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