June 2007 Chemo

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  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited June 2007
    I found the quilt. It's in the online shop for the Susan Komen foundation. Lots of other neat gifts, as well.

    http://ww2.komen.org/marketplace/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=706-13793
  • TerryNY
    TerryNY Member Posts: 603
    edited June 2007
    Debbie C, love the quilt idea, what a group of warm, loving friends. I hope the sentiments see you through many more treatments. I looked at your site, what an inspiration you are!
    Dawn, glad to hear your temp was well, temp! Thanks for the nadir info, I had never heard of it. It sure would explain some of my symptoms on Sunday, whew!
    I can't see how you all have this bundle of energy, today is the first day I feel normal and it's exactly one week from the treatment. Granted, I haven't skipped doing anything but it's been difficult getting through some days.
    Allgone, excellent news on your R breast results!! Thanks for the well wishes for my son.
    Good luck with the chest infection.
    Kathy, I feel your tiredness and I don't have a toddler! I just keep reminding myself this is all TEMPORARY and a blip on the radar screen in the grand scheme of things, right? As for the constipation, I had to use col-rite (?) OTC and it helped. Also, try adding Fiber One cereal to salads, soups, regular morning cereal, etc. It adds extra fiber and crunch.
    Hope everyone is doing well today!
  • Terrilee2
    Terrilee2 Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2007
    Hi all,

    Like Kathy, I am 5 days into tx #2. Boy oh boy... I have the Neulasta flu!!! My whole body feels like a black and blue mark! Even my face. I have been taking Aleve, and I think it is starting to work finally. Senkote S seems to help with the constipation... Kathy I am with you there, I had to call my office and tell them I would be late today.. I just couldn't leave my house until .. well you know. Are any of you feeling guilty about spending so much time resting? This has been a real issue for me. So much to be done...and I am the one that usually does it. I am getting used to "cousin it" and kind of like the fact that I can get ready so much quicker in the am. Have a good night all.

    Peace,
    Terri
  • SouthernCheryl
    SouthernCheryl Member Posts: 10
    edited June 2007
    Hey Kathy, my oldest is named Christian too - but he's 14 now! I wished I had a desk job right now. I help manage a large grocery store, so I walk ALOT. On concrete floors. I'm not so sure how I'm gonna do with the chemo. My company is great though. They've already brought in a replacement for me, so I don't feel compelled to work when I can't, and they don't have to worry about no management coverage if I have to leave.

    Speaking of chemo, I have a new onc, and a new start date -- Monday the 18th. I originally scheduled it for 6/20, which I had forgotten is my 15th anniversary. Can you believe I forgot that? So I get to join the club for real next Monday.

    He is also doing a different tx than the previous onc. He likes TAC. There's a large study going on now comparing TAC with AC/T, but he just signed up the last person. I really don't care about being in a study, I just don't ever want cancer again!

    Welcome to the gang, Sharon. What a healthy diet you have! I'll bet you bounce back incredibly fast because of it.

    Honeygirl (Melody? Am I remembering that right?)--I got lots of compliments at work yesterday about my new haircut, a few folks even said it made me look years younger! (I turn 49 at the end of the month.) I was so surprised, I hate my hair short. But it's curly and thick, so it looks OK. I guess it's just that I get my sense of femininity from my hair.

    Kathy, I laughed so hard at your POOP comment! I know how you feel.

    To all my other 'sisters', howdy!, and I hope it's all going well for you.

    Cheryl
  • lastminuteD
    lastminuteD Member Posts: 333
    edited June 2007
    Terri & Kathy - hope you are feeling better each day! I know you are both a little ahead of me and I appreciate you sharing what's going on with you so I know what I'm in for!!

    Not sure if this is going to work but my plan is to do the treadmill monday through friday and work in my yard when it's cooler in the evenings and whatever other exercise I can get. Hoping to counteract all the calories and boost my immune system to fight the fatigue. Skip the housework!! I wish.

    Dawn
    12/05 IDC er+/pr+ her2+ stage 1
    3/07 IDC er-/pr- her2+ stage 2
  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited June 2007
    Wow it is good to see most everyone is doing pretty good w/their treatments.
    After my first taxotere I was still feeling pretty bad by day 8 and wondering why and then it hit w/a force. This was the middle of my nadir period and my white count was too low, I became very ill and my fever went up to 101 so went into the hospital for complicated neutropenia, received IV antibiotics and finally got back home yesterday afternoon. My count was 1 when I admitted and when I left it was 2.2 so not going up fast enough for me.
    I will see my Onc on Thursday, have them recheck my blood counts and have a feeling my chemo will be adjusted. I'm also going to ask about getting a Neulasta shot.
    Be sure and watch your temps gals. I knew better having been thru this before but like you know you can get overwhelmed by everything going on and it's easy to forget things.
    It is nice to be back home and I came on in the forum this morning to see how you all are doing.
    I'm starting to get hair falling out so it's only a matter of time but I'm ready.
    Hugs to you all,
  • joanne_elizabeth
    joanne_elizabeth Member Posts: 499
    edited June 2007
    I am supposed to start the 27th, I think I am going for TC instead of TAC. So the T hits you nine days in?

    Joanne from NJ
  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited June 2007
    Hi Joanne, well your nadir period is 7 to 10 days after your chemo treatment so that is when your blood count may be low and then it will start to climb back up so that is your lowest point.
    At that time you would be more susceptible to infections since your body can't fight them off as well.
    I just got unlucky and picked up an infection I couldn't fight. I don't like to be in crowds, around sick people or even going to the store during this time since you are at higher risk of infection. Use lots of antibacterial soap on your hands, I have become one of those that opens doors and pushes baskets w/my sleeves if it's chilly, just watch where you are during this time to protect yourself.
    Four years ago I went thru ACT and never had this happen so this was a first for me. I don't think it is all that common but do watch your temps.
  • joanne_elizabeth
    joanne_elizabeth Member Posts: 499
    edited June 2007
    oh so I guess you feel the worst between 7-10 days with T?
    I wonder when the C and the A get you though I am trying to drop the A.

    Thanks,
    Joanne
  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited June 2007
    Pam, I'm so sorry to hear what you went through. I'm glad you are back home and the white blood cell count is creeping up. How come they didn't give you the shot of neulasta in the first place? I'm praying you get stronger quickly.

    Debbie C.
  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited June 2007
    Thank you Debbie, my family is wanting to know why I wasn't offered neulasta too so believe me it is on the top of my list for my Onc questions.

    Joanne, I hope I didn't frighten you or anyone else in this group. What happened to me is abnormal, this isn't something that happens to everyone, you will be fine.

    You might not feel your worst during the 7 - 10 days, that is just your nadir period when your count will probably be at it's lowest, you may feel a little more tired or draggy but then it will start climbing back up. When you meet w/your Onc they will explain this to you.
    You might start making a list of questions for your Onc, that's always helpful to take along with you when You see him/her.
    Here is one link that explains your counts,
    http://www.chemocare.com/managing/low_blood_counts.asp
  • litig8or
    litig8or Member Posts: 54
    edited June 2007
    I just wanted to let everyone know that I appreciate the tips for my poopie problems--and I'm "back on track"!!! LOL! What can we do but just laugh sometimes, right?

    I was tired again today when I got to work, but I'm already feeling better. Since today is day 6 for, each day from here on out will get better physically for me. By day 10 or 11, I'll be feeling normal and have all my energy back--assuming things go like tx #1. So far, I haven't run any fever, though I have a constant runny nose it seems.

    And--Yes, I want a pat on the back---My hair is gone like a Nixon file and I've been wearing scarves for two weeks. Anyway--I have a wig that I was going to wear for court hearings. So??? Yep. I had a quick court hearing first thing this morning and I said, "F&*k it! I'm wearing a scarf!" And I did. I'm in Arkansas and it's hot by 9am here dammit! So, I'm glad I did that. (Now, if I had a jury trial, I'd wear a wig, but othrewise, I'm thinking not).
    Sorry if that's too brazen for some of you....but I'm stoked about my nerve to wear the scarf in court......

    Kathy
  • DebbieK
    DebbieK Member Posts: 116
    edited June 2007
    Kathy, you go girl!! I really admire your attitude and believe fervently that we need to keep our humor and our mental strength!

    Pam, so sorry to hear about your infection. Yesterday, day 8 for me, I was very tired. Had an appt. with my onc. My wh. cells were 3000 and neutrop. were 500 which he said was low. I also have thrush in my mouth; but otherwise no serious complaints.

    I am working this week and happy to be feeling more normal.

    Take care, Debbie
  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited June 2007
    Kathy a big pat on the back coming from Oklahoma. I know your heat, we're baking here too and it's rough thinking about wearing something on your head.

    Debbie are you doing anything about the thrush? Mouthwash or rinseing w/something? I'm glad you are feeling more normal, it should keep getting better for you.
  • SusieSwan
    SusieSwan Member Posts: 111
    edited June 2007
    Pam, I'm so sorry that happened to you but glad it didn't take too long in the hospital...I've read some posts where ladies were in the hospital more than out!

    Debbie, hope the thrush isn't too bad for you..is there something you take take to get rid of it?

    Kathy, not too brazen for me! We're roasting in IL this week. I can't imagine how it is down South! I'm sure once I get rolling, I'll be opting for my scarf over the wig on the hot days!

    Dawn, I'm trying as well to get lots of exercise in and hope to keep it up during chemo.

    Well, headed to Madison WI tonight so I can be there bright and early at 6:45 for my MRI tomorrow...I sure hope nothing suspicious shows up and I can proceed directly to chemo on Thursday. To have more surgery at this point would be just devestating.

    Hugs Ladies!
    Susan
  • lastminuteD
    lastminuteD Member Posts: 333
    edited June 2007
    Pam - I am so sorry to hear how ill you've been and so glad to hear that things are looking up.

    Kathy - I agree.... you go girl!!!

    Debbie - get something for the thrush, that stuff is nasty!! My youngest got that when he was born (he's going to be 17 this August!) and gave it to me when I nursed him!! OUCH!!

    Susan - good luck tomorrow with the MRI!

    Dawn
    12/05 IDC er+/pr+ her2+ stage 1
    3/07 IDC er-/pr- her2+ stage 2
  • GracieM2007
    GracieM2007 Member Posts: 1,564
    edited June 2007
    Hi girls. I'm starting to get nervous. My first AC is on the 18th, then I go back on teh 19th, for IV fluids and Neulasta shot. I'm going to ask if I can take Alleve or something before I get the Neulasta shot. Don't know whether or not to take some kind of stool softener the night before my first AC. I also have IBS (tmi, sorry), so I have no idea how it's going to affect me...but that's a worry.

    I'm glad to hear everyone is doing pretty good at this point. I hope I'm as fortunate.

    Gracie
    IDC, ER/PR+, Her2 -, Grade 3, Stage 2
  • DebbieK
    DebbieK Member Posts: 116
    edited June 2007
    Hi again. The onc. prescribed Fluconazole for the thrush which I just started taking today. It is a 5 day course of medicine. Hopefully it will do the trick.

    Gracie, it seemed to really help me to drink water all day the day before the date of my first treatment (approx. 4 - 16oz glasses). I also continued the day of and I did not need any additional i.v. fluids. Probably woudn't hurt the bowel issue either. Before I went in for the Neulasta shot I took two ibuprofen and took two more later in the day. Didn't have a lot of bone pain. I know all of our reactions can be pretty different on an individual basis but just thought I would share what seemed to work for me.

    I'll be thinking about you on the 18th. Susan, good luck tomorrow with your MRI!

    Take care, Debbie
  • TerryNY
    TerryNY Member Posts: 603
    edited June 2007
    Cheryl, good luck with the new onc and start date. I'm 9 days out and feel the best tonight. I think I might be experiencing some bone pain from the Neulasta but nothing that isn't being managaed with Tylenol. Actually, dare I say it?, I feel almost normal tonight! Keep us posted on how you're doing.
    Pam, wow, I'm sorry to hear of your hospital stay. Hope the onc gives you a Neulasta to prevent a recurrence.
    Kathy, I love your 'tude! I think if scarves are more comfortable in that Southern Heat, then by all means strut 'em out! :-)
    Susan, good luck with the MRI tomorrow.
    Debbie, I'm very glad the doc is treating you quickly for thrush. Hope the meds kick in soonest.
    GRacie, push the fluids the day before, day of and for a day or two after your treatments. It'll help to flush the drugs out of your system. My onc nurse said not to take any stool softner until or when I experienced problems...as it could cause the opposite problem. (I asked her the same question, I was going for prevention)
    I'll be getting my second AC tx on the 18th, Gracie, so I'll be thinking of you when I'm hooked up.
    Good night, ladies!
  • pnut2
    pnut2 Member Posts: 86
    edited June 2007
    this friday will be week 8 of a 12 week chemo treatment. i am taking abraxane and aloxi for neausea. love it!! only problems i had was sea sickness feelings. my fingernails turning blue, of course the wonderful "chemo brain". thank goodness no aches and pain.
  • Charlie451
    Charlie451 Member Posts: 69
    edited June 2007
    Wow, all the comments posted here really are informative. Debbie, I am trying to train myself to drink lots of fluids - iced tea being my favorite. First tx is Friday.
    Pam, I am relieved to know you are OK after your hospital episode. Were they giving you taxotere alone or in combination with something before the fever started?
    Kathy, I have a lovely new wig but in Texas in the summer you might as well be wearing a fur hat. I made some colorful cotton scarves that are reversible - two big triangles sewed together. They work great.
    Everyone is ahead of me starting treatment. My daughter is flying in Thursday to attend the 1st chemo with me. My husband has been a terrific support through the surgeries and everything.
    Hope all continues to go relatively well for all of you.
    Linda
  • burquie
    burquie Member Posts: 129
    edited June 2007
    Good morning all!!
    Sounds like everyone is just about up and running with their treatment. I had my port put in yesterday, not too much discomfort. Even though I didn't have general anesthesia, I was still sick to my stomach again. Seemed like general to me..... I don't remember a thing from the time he gave me the shot to "relax" me until I woke up in recovery. I also came out of surgery with either a bad case of allergies or I got a lovely cold! I've been sneezing and coughing and all that good stuff!!! Hospitals.. got to love 'em! If you not sick going in... you are coming out! On Monday I also had a visit with the plastic surgeon, she added 120cc's to my expander; that was no big deal thank goodness!
    So Tuesday the 19th, I'm off to the cancer center to get my first dose of AC.Trying to decide when to cut my hair real short or go ahead and shave it. I too have decided not to got the wig route. I told someone last night that if I'm going to fight this battle, I'm going to show my battle scars!
    Hope everyone has a good day!

    Bonnie
  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited June 2007
    Susan fingers crossed your mri goes well!

    Linda, my first treatment was 100% Taxotere. Good grief a wig in Texas. lol I love your scarf idea, how clever and that would save alot of money too.
    That's nice your daughter is flying in to go w/you to your first chemo, the support really helps,good to hear hubby has been terrific for you too.
    My hubby is my rock. I'm still not feeling very well, really looking forward to seeing my Onc tomorrow.
    I am really glad to hear most of you are doing so well, let's keep it up!

    hugs,
  • SusieSwan
    SusieSwan Member Posts: 111
    edited June 2007
    Bonnie,
    I agree on the general...After they gave me my shot to "relax" me, I don't remember a thing until he was flushing my port to make sure it worked. I was talking about my dogs so obviously I was coherent but don't remember anything before that, which is good! My step-daughter works in radiology and she said the "la-la land" drugs they give you just make you not remember because the patients that have this definitely feel things at the time!

    My MRI went good....except, I basically was on a "boogie board". First of all, I'm 5' 10" tall and looking at what I had to get on, I thought there is no way but it all worked out. It was a slanted upwards and two cut-outs for your breasts to hang into. The hardest part was my ribs rubbing against the table and I was told to not move my torso, even between pics or I'd have to go home and start again another day. I'm not clausterphobic but there were a few times I had to concentrate on my breathing because in this tube, there's not much air movement and my head was in a brace of sorts. I only felt a coolness with the contrast, no pain, but the last two scans were pretty "thumpy"...I felt like they were poking me in the ribs, made me jump!

    Crossing my fingers I'll get the all clear tomorrow a.m.

    Keep up the great job ladies...everyone is doing well!

    Hugs,
    Susan
  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited June 2007
    Susan, the MRI was a concern for me while in the machine. Even though I'm short, I too felt like I was hanging in the balance. I was afraid my arms would slip and it would be back to square one. I just mustered all my focus and breathing and kept my hands tightly clasped together. At least at my MRI, the gals told me as I was finishing up that I did a good job and they got what they needed. Whew! I'm competitive with myself so it was important for me to get it right the first time. Beyond that I would not call it a difficult experience. And I think that's what I'm hearing you say.

    Debbie C.
  • SusieSwan
    SusieSwan Member Posts: 111
    edited June 2007
    Well ladies, bad news, no June chemo for me. Onc just called and it appears there is another lesion, 6mm x 9mm x 6mm inferior to my original lumpectomy site. Possibly a lymp node, they really don't know. The calcs (whole reason for this MRI) did not show up but they still could be DCIS.

    anyway, he wants now to try a ultrasound guided biopsy and if they can't get it with that, they will do an MRI guided biopsy. The thought of more of these is just devastating as I thought my core biopsy was worse than the surgeries thus far!

    I'm leaning towards just having a mast at this point and forgetting about the biops. Maybe there's a slim chance this lesion is part of the orginal lump but I'm at the losing end of the odds every time here.

    Any thoughts or input would be so helpful and appreciated. I know it's a personal decision but it helps to have others insight and perspective.

    Everyone keep up the great progress in your treatments!

    Hugs,
    Susan
  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited June 2007
    Susan, you've got a lot to think about. Not the least of which is next steps regarding breast conservation. I know when I first learned about my breast cancer, my first thought was just remove the breast, begone! It is a consideration but not necessarily the best one when you step beyond your emotional reaction.

    Are you in a position to seek additional opinions? It does become your full time job but not sure if you've gathered up your medical records, pathology and radiology reports to get a second or third opinion.

    Also have you seen Dr. Susan Love's Breast Book. I found it to be a good resource to help me sort out my thinking each step of the way.

    I can only imagine what you are going through. Try to stay positive. It doesn't all have to be bad news. I know it looks that way right now.

    I am praying for you.

    Debbie C.
  • lastminuteD
    lastminuteD Member Posts: 333
    edited June 2007
    Oh Susan, that sucks!!

    I agree with you - I'd be leaning toward a mastectomy (that's what I had) - sounds easier than all the biopsies and then you may end up with one anyway. I think you should call your surgeon and discuss your thought and it wouldn't hurt to call any of your other doctors for their opinions too. I had a stereotactic biopsy and that for me was worse than any of the other surgeries (6 so far) I've had in the past 18 months. More swelling and pain, etc. If your surgeon doesn't think the mast is the next step, then discuss going straight to the MRI guided biopsy so at least it would be one test instead of possibly two. Is he talking about another lumpectomy depending on the results? Then you've got to question him about whether he will be taking so much that you'll have a noticeable size difference too. Make a list of questions and call them.

    I'm rambling - my brain gets carried away.......

    Sorry you won't be hanging out with this awesome June 07 crew but please check back in to let us know what's up!

    We have the same treatment plan - unless they change yours - so pm me if you want to talk about it when you get there!

    Dawn
  • DebbieK
    DebbieK Member Posts: 116
    edited June 2007
    Susan, after I had my lumpectomy when they said they did not get clear margins the surgeon told me she could go back in to try to get clear margins or do a mastectomy. I chose the mastectomy because I didn't want to chance any more additional surgeries if she still did not get clear margins. Also another try would leave my breast pretty deformed. It seemed logical to me at the time. Anyway, after I told her I wanted to go with the mastectomy, she said that that was what she would have chosen and agreed it was the right course of action. Up until that moment I couldn't have told which surgery she thought was best. I guess my feeling was she didn't want to sway me but wanted me to make the decision. I believe when you talk with you oncologist and tell him you are considering having the mastectomy he will share his opinion and recommendation with you. For me the loss of the breast has not been that difficult. I can always have reconstruction later if I want, and I don't mind it. I also had a plastic surgeon do a reduction on my left side at the same time the mastectomy was done. This was because I had fairly large breasts, and I was worried about finding enough "stuffing" to match the left side!

    You'll be in my prayers; I know it is hard with another surgery facing you.

    Hugs to everyone. Debbie
  • allgone
    allgone Member Posts: 16
    edited June 2007
    Susieswan...I'm so sorry!! When they found the 2 small suspicious areas on my right breast, one was 3mm and the second was 7mm. They said they would have to wait a couple of weeks for this new biopsy needle to come in. If they did the biopsy the areas are so small that they might take the whole area out and if it did turn out to be cancer they would have to do a radical masectomy. This needle they were waiting for in Toronto would do the biopsy and leave a small clip behind so if surgery did have to happen, the surgeon would know where to take more tissue from...(Did that make sense??) If it didn't just let me know and I will try to re-word or clarify. I just wanted to let you know this because if you don't opt for a masectomy, you want to make sure you get the result you want.
    Let me know what happens,
    Keep Smiling

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