Starting Chemo in May 07
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Hi there,
I had 2 chemo FEC and for four 4days after I'm was so constipated I couldn't beleive I was like that because it never happened before I was never constipated in my life. That was tough ,the nurse told me to drink heated prune juice before going to bed and first thing in the morning that worked.
This time for my third one on 11june I'm taking senakot-s the same day and for 4days after the treatment to make sure that i'm will not be costipated.
Hope it's going to work for you, good luck.
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IDC, 3.2cm,er/pr+,stage1,grade2,19nodes-,her/2-,clean margins -
My first round I was constipated for 5 days! Dried apricots help, but now I take one Sennekot S and one regular Sennekot every night which seems to help a bit. I also try and eat a lot of fruit and veggies. It does seem that everyone gets either constipation or diarrhea.
My sister is visiting me from Amsterdam and she tried to shave off my remaining buzzcut hair this afternoon but I have SOOO much hair that we ran out of sharp razors way before she got done! It's sort of hilarious to have it half shaven and half buzzed. It forces me to cover it up, that's for sure. I'll be so glad when all the hair is done falling out 'cuz this halfway stuff is irritating.
But on a positive note, my neighbor brought me a lovely meatloaf and mashed potato dinner tonight! Yum!
Hugs,
LeeAnne -
Oh man. I really don't want to take another drug for this. Sorry to be whiny today, but I've never had so many drugs in my life-one for anxiety, two for nausea, one for wbc's, one for rbc's, one antibiotic. My pantry looks like a pharmacy and I never even hardly took aspirin before now. I think I'll try to up the prune juice, prunes, high fiber foods before I take anything else. But man that was painful.
Isn't it great to enjoy comfort foods? I would never eat meatloaf and mashed potatoes, or mac and cheese without feeling guilty, but now I enjoy it. Maybe that's why I'm having so much trouble going! -
Liz, I know what you mean about all the meds! It's ridiculous! I don't even know what all I have any more.
I'm having such a hard time coping right now. I know I need to take this whole thing one hour, one day, one treatment at a time, but it's so overwhelming. I'm just finishing day 5, and I feel miserable. I had the pump taken out today--my onc's nurse thought that would probably help with my fatigue level, to not have so many drugs dripping in, but I feel the same or worse. Still nauseated, still exhausted, huge headache. I'm so sorry to whine! On my first cycle I was able to teach violin lessons by this time, and turned a huge corner on day 6. Tonight there was NO WAY I could teach, and I can't imagine feeling well enough by tomorrow. How can I get through 4 more of these? -
Hi, everyone. I've been feeling great for awhile now. My only lasting symptom is diarrhea, but I am prone to that anyway. Too bad I have my second A/C treatment tomorrow.
I have a delicate question. Today my pubic hairs are falling out. I wonder if anyone knows how long before my head hair will follow. I'm really hoping that it will wait until Thursday. I hate to be sitting in the chemo chair with my hair falling out.
Pat -
Morning,
Amy, I am so sorry you are having such a tough time with this chemo! I have no advice to offer - just sympathy/empathy and I can at least send you positive thoughts and well wishes that that corner gets turned TODAY and that you're back teaching violin!
Pat, my hair on my head fell out before my pubes, but only by about a day. My experience was that once it started to come out, I had about 2 days left before I had to shave. I am still stubbly (everywhere) but expect that to come out too and end up Mr. Clean shiny!!
I know what you guys mean about meds! AFter my first tx, I accidentally took the steroid (decadron) at the end of the day (as per the instructions from a pharmacy person who interviewed me for a study) The nurse who gave me my second chemo told me I wasn't supposed to take the decadron - just the Zofran and that I'd actually exceeded my maximum decadron for that day (becasue they give you so much in the IV) So, she told me to only take the Zofran this time and take the decadron the next day. Okay fine, but my meds aren't brand name and what I thought was Zofran was actually Decadron so I did it again! How do seniors keep up with all their meds???? Now, I have written on the bottle the BRAND name and will try not to overdose again next time!!
I have a question regarding hair (or lack of) My scalp is so white! Everyone says I need to tan it - but A)I don't want to burn it - even with sunscreen, I imagine it would be quite sensitive andthat means being out in public bald...I simply don't have the courage/confidence to do that! So, maybe a self tanner? I'll probably end with a streaky orange head - perfect for that alien look I am trying to achieve LOL!
Have a great day everyone!
Mandy
P.S. I too, have lost some posts before (which sucks) so what I do now is before I post , I always highlight my post and copy it in case I lose it, then, I can just paste it into a new post if I have to without typing everything again! -
OK guys
This is gross but I have been so constipated since the chemo that I have hemorrhoids and boy do they hurt. I agree about taking more pills so I eat bran every morning. This really helps.
My hair is starting to really fall out today so I am going to get my wig. It finally came in. I will be joining shortly on the bald side. I hope my wig looks cute and natural.
Hope everyone is good out there
Kim -
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I'm having such a hard time coping right now. I know I need to take this whole thing one hour, one day, one treatment at a time, but it's so overwhelming. I'm just finishing day 5, and I feel miserable.
That is terrible Amy. I hope you get a turnaround today! It sounds like you're in close contact with your onc throughout this. Is there anything else they can do? -
Hi girls,
Thanks for the encouragement. I finally fell asleep last night after takikng almost every anti-nausea med I had--ativan, phenergan, zofran (left off compazine). I think the zofran gave me a headache, so I'm going to avoid that one next time. I think I woke up in the exact same position I fell asleep in! So far I'm still wiped out, but we'll see how today goes. Still constipated, too--that's not helping either, but I don't have enough appetite to eat bran right now. I'm hoping for that turnaround today. I don't know if I can make it to teach, but just to feel like walking around and going somewhere would be like heaven.
Pat, I was the same as Amya, my pubes started falling out about the same time as my head hair, so my guess is your head is coming soon--sorry, sweetie. My first clump pulled out on a Thursday, and by Sunday I was ready to have it OFF. WAY too sore and itchy and messy with all that hair falling out. But it took me a while to come to that--I didn't know until Sunday morning that I was ready to shave, and then I couldn't wait til Sunday night when my husband did it for me.
Amya, I'm wondering the same thing about the white head. Right now my head is ugly, I think, because of the partial stubble (my hair was REALLY dark) and super-white look, so I'm kind of looking forward to having the rest of the stubble come out, but it seems kind of slow. It also is so rough, kind of like when your dad needs a shave. Do you think it will come out more quickly again at about 2 weeks past this 2nd tx? About tanning it, could you spend a little private time in the back yard (or someplace else private) with sunscreen on, to see if you can color it up? Give me your solutions, and when I can lift my head off the pillow I'll be trying them out!
Amy -
hi everyone, I am having more of a problem with diarrhea than constipation but I do know of a couple of things that work well for constipation. (I deal with it for a living!) If you don't have an appetite to eat fiber/bran, try the metamucil crackers (not the powder stuff, that tastes horrible). Drink at least 64 ounces of water a day. Also, dried apricots really work and taste better than prunes! Good luck.
Leslie -
Hi again,
I called the onc's office--the nurse suggested trying to go out and do something, to see if it would actually make me feel better to move stuff through my system. So I took the kids to the playground at the mall. Felt like total crap the whole time, and couldn't wait to get home. I don't think it helped yet, but maybe later, and at least I tried. And I'm starting to have a better idea that I won't be able to teach violin today. Just can't make it happen. The nurse was sort of like, "Sorry this is just how it is!" Well, this SUCKS!! My husband is coming home at noon today, though--I'll be so glad to have him here.
Still looking to turn that corner,
Amy -
Okay, today I got my period!! I was totally expecting it to not come but here it is and only 4 days late! I am very regular so when I didn't get it 4 days ago I thought I wouldn't get it!
I am feeling a little panicky. My SE's have been totally manageable and now I get my period. My intellect tells me not to worry but my anxiety wonders if this chemo is working?? I'm sure my onc will tell me everything is fine and that not ALL women stop menstruating. Thank goodness I lost my hair or I'd be really freaking out right now!
Anyone else still getting their period?
Mandy -
Mandy, Don't panic. Side effects aren't a guarantee that it's working. I have had the same thoughts myself since my se's have been pretty mild relatively. I had my period when I got my first tx so we'll see next month I guess.
Hang in there Amy. I hope you feel better soon! -
Mandy, don't worry. Alot of people get their periods during chemo and it doesn't mean it doesn't work. Hang in there. this whole chemo thing just sucks. I haven't gotten too many side effects but I still don't feel like my usual self. I guess that is to be expected. I can't wait until this chemo is all done with. only 4 sessions left to go!
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Here's my little crisis du jour: today someone at work said I looked like Rhoda! I don't want to look like Rhoda, I want to look like ME! This is the first day I've worn a scarf, and I tied it hanging down in the back, and yes I have a crocheted sweater and platforms, and I suppose it IS a bit retro looking but it's sort of freaking me out a little bit. Of course in the grand scheme of things this is nothing, and I will get used to not having hair and wearing scarves and before we all know it chemo will be done and the hair will return but geez it feels a little depressing right this second. I have to somehow figure out how to cover my head in a professional manner every day for how many months?? Wigs are too itchy and hot for wearing all day, for me anyway. My boss made a comment, too, about how when it grows back a little it will look butch, which isn't helpful either. I mean, not that there's anything wrong with THAT but can't everyone just keep their mouths shut?
Thanks for letting me whine... my stomach hurts... bleah.
LeeAnne -
Hi LeeAnne, I'm going through the same thing. I really hate my wig even though i payed ALOT for it. I have to go to a work dinner tonight so I have to break out the wig for the first time in a week. I just HATE, HATE , HATE styling it. I am comfortable with the scarves, but it really gets a lot of looks and comments at work! Outside of work, noone even looks twice, so I don't know why my coworkers, all of whom know what's going on, feel so free to comment about it.
Hang in there, hopefully, as you continue to wear the scarves, people will become used to it and they soon will forget about it.
Leslie -
Hi Ladies,
I just wanted to give all of you a big cyber hug and some inspiration to keep you going through the tough "chemo days". This is only a temporary period of time on a rollercoast road which leads to a path with a great prize at the end --- a long healthy life.
I was diagnosed with IDC back in October 05 (almost two years ago) and had a lumpectomy to remove a 4 cm tumour. Chemo started in Dec 05 for 6 months - 4 a/c and 4 taxol. I also had 5 1/2 weeks of radiation and then was put on Armidex and Zoladex injections.
For those ladies suffering with constipation I found that taking 2 senekot "s" (stool softner) helped me tremendously. There was nothing worse than feeling like crap and then being backed up as well.
Drinking lots of water helps alot, if not water try crystal light or adding a lemon to the water to give it a bit of zing will also help to flush the chemo drugs out of your system.
For me a/c was the hardest of the chemo regimes. The steriods made me moody and I had steriod withdrawal each round of a/c but didnt have it with taxol for some reason.
The fatigue was also very accumulative. Be kind to yourself, solicit help with chores and kids and listen to your body.
I was also one that never took a pill in my life until diagnosed with b/c but the meds are important especially the anti nausea and steriods in controlling some of the side effects. The steriods bloated me including my legs and face but the bloat disappeared once I finished chemo.
Loosing my hair was the worst part emotionally through the whole chemo process as I had long curly ringlets. I am not vain in any way but hair defines your feminity and when you dont have any it sucks.
My hair and eyebrows grew back great and now I am complaining about my wild curls when a year ago I had nothing.
My period continued through much of my 6 months of chemo until the last month or so and then became very different and shorter in duration. As I am highly er/pr+ and was 41 at diagnosis, my oncologist put me on Armidex and I have 3 month injections of Zoladex to chemically shut my ovaries down.
I hope you ladies dont think I am intruding on your thread but I wanted to give you some hope and to let you know that life does return to back to "almost normal" but we are forever changed by this experience. My relationships with my friends, parents, family and especially my husband have only grown stronger through this experience.
Your bc sister
Michele -
Michele, you rock! Thanks for the encouragement. I think each group should have a big sister to give us encouragement from time to time. It's wonderful having each other to go through this but sometimes we can use some advice from someone whose been there. You can "drop in" on us anytime!!
LeeAnne, I know how you feel about people's comments! I truly know that people don't mean to be insensitive or plain rude but the truth is, sometimes they just are! Maybe you don't WANT to look like Rhoda! Maybe "Butch" isn't the look we're trying for. I sure as hell don't feel like looking like a pirate! I don't know how to not let those little stinging comments get to me. (I never knew how to do that before bc either!) I want to wear a t-shirt that says:
"I'm bald.
It's from chemo.
I plan to live a long healthy life.
Please keep all comments (other than "Wow, you look stunning!" to yourself.
Have a nice day."
Maybe I should design one! LOL
Have a great evening everyone. I wonder how Sunshine is doing - anyone heard from her?
Mandy -
Michele, Thank you SO MUCH. Amya is right, we needed you to be our big sister right now. I'm so low, and I just didn't anticipate feeling THIS bad. But you give us hope, and I need that right now.
Man, the comments from people are ridiculous, aren't they? When I got my pixie cut to minimize the mess and a "friend" saw me, the FIRST words out of her mouth were, "You look like a boy." (which I did NOT, by the way) and then, "Why did you cut it???" DUH!! I HAVE CANCER! Haven't we been OVER this??!! I responded by saying, "Because it's falling out and I don't want such a mess." To which she cheerily said, "Then you'll get to have fun with scarves and hats!!" Yay, yippee, do you want to borrow all my scarves and hats and have fun yourself?? OK, I'm not normally this bitter, girls! Just a low day, as you know. But I know you all can relate to these comments, right?
Amya, LOVE the T-shirt idea. I'll wear one if you make it! When we were trying to have a baby and struggling with infertility, I wanted a shirt that I could wear around all our friends with little babies that would say, "We're TRYING."
Thanks again, Michelle,
Amy -
Hi girls,,,,,,,
Michelle,,,,,welcome,,,,,,it will be nice to have someone on here thats been thru this before,,,,,,,we can look up to you for some answers too,,,,if thats ok with you, So check in with us on occassion ok?
Had my second TCH yesterday. Today I went in for my neulasta shot. This morning my hubby said,,,,,,,,,,,"hey hun,,,,,do you feel like taking a walk?" I said,,,,,,,,,U bet I do. I feel great today. So then after that we stopped and had lunch somewhere and then walked home. I think we walked about 2 miles,,,,,,it felt wonderful to be out and about like that. Then I went for my neulasta shot,,,,,,,so that usually kicks me in the butt for 3 days,,,,so we will see. But so far I feel fine. This is my first time doing the whole dose at once,,,,remember I was the weekly gal but stopped that since the great follicular fallout was happening anyways.
I did get a presc yesterday for ativan because when taking that decadron I dont sleep for days,,,,,but last night I took one and I slept like a baby It was niiiiiiiiiiiice. I am not a pill taker,,,,,,so will only take that on the days I am loaded up with decadron. But it was nice to get a good nights sleep.
Hope you all have a great week this week and we all keep our side effects down to a minimun.
Cindy -
Thanks Ladies!
I hoped I would lift your spirits.
Feel free to pm me, I am on the board pretty well every day still.LOL. It is wonderful to give back since so many great women helped me out when I was afraid and didnt know where to turn.
My email address if anyone has a question is michele.wenz@sympatico.ca.
Have a great night my sisters.
Michele -
ok girls,,,,one more question,,,,,,,how do i get my pic to show up here? I went to my home page and what looks like where u can put a pic in there,,,,,,i went to browse and clicked on it but it doesnt show up,,,,,,,,what am i doing wrong. Im not that computer savy so i need some master help here from one of your computer savy gals............help meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
lol
Cindy -
Hey Cindy, Go to the personal information page and look for the box that says upload your avatar. YOu can browse for the picture you want and upload it. It has to be pretty small so make sure it's compressed enough before you upload it. Let me know if you have any problems.
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Ugh, girls, the train of S/E is just too much!! No more constipation for me, now I'm having diarrhea. Probably worsened by all the things I was trying to do to fix the constipation, but now I've switched to Immodium (per my onc's office instructions). They say if I have more than 4 in 24 hours I'm supposed to call. I have a feeling I may be calling them tonight.
PLEASE let this be my worst cycle!!
Amy -
liz: Ok i tried that but the pic didnt come up at all. Do i check the box that says something about your avatar,,,,or just click browse and put in the pic u want there? See thats what I did,,,i just clicked browse and found the pic and hit upload but nothing happened. How do I know if its the right size,,,,,and if its not how do i change that? Sorry,,,,,,im kind of a dummy when it comes to this stuff. My kids usually walk me thru this stuff,,,,,sad huh? lol
Thanx,,,,,,,,Cindy -
omg Liz,,,,,,,,,,it worked ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im so happy. Doesnt take much to make me happy huh? But my face is so skinny there. I look like i belong on the post office wall, in the wanted section. O well,,,,,,,,,,I like to see peoples faces here,,,,,its nice to have a face with the writing I think.
Thanx for the help,,,,,,,,,,
Cindy -
Hi all
I tried to post last night but got disconnected from the internet just as I hit submit. I've had a great couple of days. Kinda makes me wonder if there were actually any drugs in those IV's they dripped into me. I feel crappy the first couple of days and then I'm fine, I have energy. The nuelasta shot doesnt bother me that much either. I am experience a thinning of my hair but its not falling out in large clumps, yet. Today it doesnt seem to be as bad as it was the last couple of days. I did buy a couple of scarves last night just in case.
I had constipation as well with my first treatment and since then I take two stool softeners at night just to make sure.
Over the weekend I had a terrible taste in my mouth and then Monday it was like my mouth was coated with something. I couldn't taste anything, it was almost like it was numb. I called the onc and was told it was probably Thrush and they gave me a script, I also told them about my sore scalp, it was almost like I had pimples and it itched really bad. Had a few pimples on my face as well so they gave me a script for that as well.
I'm not taking: Keflex (only the generic brand) and Fluconazole. Other than those two and an occasional tylanol PM I haven't had to take other drugs after the first couple of days.
I was on the depo prevera shot for ovarian cysts and my onc told me to stop that. I should have had a shot last month so I'm wondering if I will have a period or not.
I want a t-shirt as well for when my hair finally falls out. What a great idea.
Michele- thanks for the encouragement. I know we can all use it and it is very helpful.
Hope everyone feels better soon, sister hugs to all,
CindyKS
ps I always copy before posting cause I get the error as well. -
Hi all - Was just on break, had a wonderful time with my niece and nephew, they love me in my wig.
BTW, just wanted to clarify - my sign in name is "AmyaM" and some folks have been calling me Amy, which is fine, but Amya is short for Aunt Amanda. (I was so christened by my niece when she was just learning to talk...) So feel free to call me Amanda or Amya, but Amya's easier for here.
Just had a small heartbreaking conversation with my 8 yr old niece - she has finally figured out that yes, every woman on my side of the family has had breast cancer. But, on the upside, everyone's doing well! Except for me at the moment, but I will be well. But still, it was one of those cuddle-time conversations where you know the little cogs are turning,and you just wait for the kiddo to tell you what they're thinking, and that's what it was. Oh well, I think we ended on an up note. It was lovely to have family here.:)
Days 4-7 of chemo are the worse for me - headachy, icky feeling over all. To bed I go!
Hugs to all, good night, -
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omg Liz,,,,,,,,,,it worked ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im so happy.
Thanx for the help,,,,,,,,,,
Cindy
Good to see your face! -
Hi everyone
All of your posts are so very encouraging. I'm having a very down day. My hair was coming out in clumps in the shower so we are going to shave it tonight. My wig is very nice and my son and husband said I was sexy. LOL I guess the hair loss makes it sooooo real. It sucks. I am awfully tired too!!! Our big weekend is Friday to meet Stephen King in Toronto. I hope I don't ruin everyones time because I am so tired. Plus I have to wear my wig and I'm sure I will be self concious. I'm SCARED!!!!!
Ok so I'm doing the positive thing again. I am grateful that I have such a great husband. He told me that I would look great on the weekend with my new wig. He said that it looks natural and no one will ever know. Also, I am so proud of my son because he actually wrote a book. I think it's a miracle because his brain was so swollen from the Lupus. Also my daughter makes me laugh every day!!! That counts for a lot.
Anyone have some positives!!! I will be back on Saturday to check. Everyone have a nice weekend.
Kim
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