Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited June 2007
    good morning gals
    My computer crashed yesterday during a violent thunderstom - luckily a friend who is a computer whiz was able to come right over and took a look at it - it's toast. He took out the hard drive to see if he could retreive any info, I hope he can. Anyways he is coming over shortly to help us buy a new system possibly on line from Future Shop. Then DD's cell phone broke, so I had to call my cell phone guy to get a new one ordered for her. Then one of the files in my filing cabinet collapsed when I opened it - anything else that could possibly break and get me aggravated? I know these are not important in the grand scheme of things and the bigger picture of what I am going through, but between my never ending headache and now these annoyances, I did not have the greatest day. Had a bit of a meltdown, so I took a Percoset last evening and it helped...
    I'm on DH's laptop right now until I get the new computer, which will hopefully be up and running by early next week. My friend is going to load it all up with software adn my business software over the weekend.
    So I tried to go onto the chat room, but it says I don't have a "profile" - what is that? I signed on as Caya, but what's with the profile? I am tech challenged, can somebody tell me what to do?
    gotta go, my computer friend is here.
    hugs
    caya
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited June 2007
    I'm posting this before reading page 131, but Viddie and Nancy, hope you can join the next chat, it was so much fun I was giddy. DH kept asking why I was laughing. And Nancy and Melia, I've had low rbcs and wbcs this past week now. Which I didn't think was supposed to happen 5 weeks out from chemo but I guess is not uncommon. NOW they tell me! Anyone else have funky-looking thumbnails? It seemed to me that a few days with nail polish on them (first time since before dx) made them a LOT worse. Maybe they need air too, I don't know. I'm hoping I can make it without losing any, but Caya and Robertin, didn't you each lose one? Are they starting to grow back?
    --Skye
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited June 2007
    Quote:

    Oh I forgot to ask, does taxol make you retain fluid? I can hardly move, my rings are tight and I look like the michlin tire man! I got rolls and rolls around my middle.




    Nancy and Melia, whether it was the steroids or taxol I don't know but I definitely gained weight with them and I hadn't on AC. Nancy I'm with you on the Michelin Man look. I need to buy more of those summer tops that are gathered under the bust and look like maternity clothes. I'm going to try to take a walk today during the time the neighbor's vicious dog is usually closed in the house, but I'll carry a stick just in case. And maybe my pepper spray too. (As I said in the chat last night we hve a dog on our street that has bitten 2 people now, a woman and a man. Once it was just loose and the other time it snapped its chain!) The dog is wreaking havoc on my walking therapy. Note to self: must call sheriff today. - Skye
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited June 2007

    Caya I didn't have a profile either and I noticed most others didn't, but it did not prevent me from posting. I think it was something that needed to be entered with you log-in name, and once the name is in there they don't accept a second try with the same name. At least that was my experience. I started 15 minutes early because I was afraid I'd have complications and I was right, but it still worked eventually. Hope you can join us next time. - skye

  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited June 2007
    Nancy- sorry that you are feeling so tired. I am sure we will have another chat-it was great!

    Melia- the bolus is a flat, floppy rubber thing they lay over you before zapping you. As far as I can tell it redirects the radiation so that portions closer to the surface of the skin are irradiated. I read that the use of one of these things makes it more likely to have a skin reaction (yuck).

    Yeck Nancy-sounds like you are having a rough go all around. I am sure that it is just fluid, but call your onc if you are concerned, maybe they can give you a diuretic. If your rings are tight take them off!

    Geez Caya, between the headache from hell and your other woes you are having a bummer few days. I know how those little things can really add up….each individual thing that goes wrong is no big deal, but they interact synergistically and create a godawful mess! Hang in there, it will look better from the other side.

    Not doing too much today. Had my zap this morning, and now I am just wandering around my house not sure what to do with myself. Finished my book, but I do not really want to do anything strenuous (its hot) or intellectual (I am procrastinating). I DEFINITELY do not want to surf the web because then I either spend money I do not have, or look up information about BC that I should not really read because I will just frighten myself. Maybe I should clean the bathroom....or maybe not

    Have a good day everyone!
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited June 2007

    Just came back from my eyebrow wax. WARNING...it hurt like hell. I mean it always hurts but this was awful. Apparently my skin has not recovered from chemo and is still quite sensitive. I was bright red after. The lady felt bad so she gave me some make up samples to use until it subsided. So much for vanity.

  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited June 2007
    OMG, Amera, I didn't know that could happen or that our skin is now sensitive after chemo. Yikes. So much for "treating yourself" to an eyebrow wax, huh? God.

    Nancy, you are wiped from 12 taxols! It'll take about two weeks and you'll feel your energy returning. You really will. And yes, FOR SURE, the weekly steroids put weight on. I am down like 8 lbs. since I stopped Taxol. Thank God. 8 more to go. I'm not killing myself over it though.

    Skye, that is lame about the dog. I've been attacked by dogs several times... one time by a VICIOUS German shepherd. He would not get off me, sunk his teeth into my thigh. It was like having a monster on you. My brother, who is a plumber, was attacked by a German shepherd last week as he entered a house to do a job. The damn dog nearly took his hand off...which would have put him out of work for a while. I haaaaaaaaaaate mean dogs. I have zero use for vicious breeds too.
  • mer1957
    mer1957 Member Posts: 534
    edited June 2007
    I am still waiting for them to call me about my date for starting rads but that's okay -- I am not in any hurry at the moment. I'm having a couple of downer days. I think the surgery has hit me. I can't believe my chest is going to always feel like this - numb and tight. I hear it will get a little better but not go away. That is very depressing for me. The only time I don't feel it is when I am cycling. Must be the seratonin (sp?). I go see the surgeon on Mon so I'm hoping for some hope. I avoided the reconstruction because I didn't want more pain and yet this is not fun either.

    One good thing did happen. I received a gift certificate at work for being there 30 years and I can redeem it for hotels, restaurants, shops, airlines, etc. So I am having fun trying to think of how I want to spend it. I think I will go to Chicago for a weekend in the Fall, spend it on a hotel, and visit with my future DIL and my son when he is visiting. So that gives me something to look forward to after rads.

    I'm having a hard time explaining my feelings to DH. Do you think this is normal after surgery to feel this way?
  • Nancyab
    Nancyab Member Posts: 276
    edited June 2007
    Oh I can relate to Crazy dogs! There are so many in my neighborhood you walk down the street and it sounds like a kennel. Then of all things there is a doggy day care close by too, guess the owners saw a great potential here for $'s. My Dh has a dog whistle on his key chain that is how bad it is. We even bought one of those bark free contraptions that when they bark it emits a piercing sound that only the dog could hear, after a few times barking and getting that noise feedback they would learn that it hurt to bark and quit. Unfortunately the contraption quit too. Found the thing cannot withstand rain! HA we wondered what this plastic thingy was for!!! DUH.
    Well gals I am finished with Taxol!!!! I said good ridden to my chair, my iv pump and the 4 little bags that hung from it!! I spoke to the nurse about retaining as I am, but she wants me to hang in there until I can see my Onc. I told her I felt like a water balloon stretched to maximum! The hot flashes are making me sweat like crazy too, I never sweat, usually cool as a cucumber, cause of a hypo thyroid.
    Rebecca, I just tried and I can't get the rings off! I'll try some olive oil here in a bit. Holy cow!
    Tina, tell me more good news! More, more you say 2 weeks I'll be feeling better, OH I cannot wait!
    Well, guess the steroid is doing it's thing I'm just blabbing away! I'm done, I'm done, I'm done and I feel as if I climbed Mt. Everest!
  • Nancyab
    Nancyab Member Posts: 276
    edited June 2007

    Mary, I had a Bilateral in Dec and yes it is numb but I am getting used to it and don't really notice. I feel each day the nerves are regenerating a little bit more. If the numbness is here to stay then the mind seems to compensate and blocks it out. It will be ok I promise!

  • mer1957
    mer1957 Member Posts: 534
    edited June 2007
    Congrats Nancy on finishing Taxol. It is quite an accomplishment. I had 4 dose dense and about two weeks later I felt much less bloated, although I did not have as much trouble as you. Hang in there. I found that my hair started coming in about 5 weeks after Taxol. Now I am 7-1/2 weeks out and you can actually see it (well at least I can). It's a long long road but we're going to make it.

    I am trying to figure out what to wear. My bras hurt, my postsurgical camisole with puffy (thanks to Jan) even hurts at the end of the day. I feel like I want to ice it. Maybe I have some fluid although it is not too apparent.
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited June 2007
    Mary,

    Did they give you an exercise sheet for your post-surgical rehabilitation? You need to get going on those right away to avoid all that unpleasant tightness.

    If you don't have one I think I can dig up the sheet they gave me.

    Mizsissy
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited June 2007
    Hi All,
    Gosh I loved our chat last night. Makes me smile to think of it.

    Mary, You are not recovered yet from surgery. You have been through so much, with chemo and surgery, and going back to work. I returned to work two weeks after surgery, had four ac, 7 taxols, 5 to go, and am exhausted past anything I have ever felt. I had the surgery (left mast, axillary dissection) in Dec and still feel tight, though the feeling has returned in some of my upper arm and chest. My armpit is numb, and lots of the surgery area. A little of the upper arm, but not too much. I don't mind it. I do think I got the wrong size band for my bras, and am going to go back for more fittings as soon as I can muster the energy. Be kind to yourself, and understand that you have been thru an ordeal. I think we all assume we can do all this and our normal lives too, and maybe we need some time to crash now and then. Nancy, I cannot imagine how tired you must be after 12 taxols, but congrats on finishing!!!!

    Melia
  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited June 2007
    Skye,

    I was very lucky and did not lose any nails from the Taxotere. Some mild blackening of one fingernail, but otherwise okay. Weight gain from the steroids for sure, I am trying to lose it, not too successful.
    Amera thanks for the tip about the waxing. I wonder what the time frame is for our skin to be okay to do this.
    Nancy - congrats on finishing your Taxol. It's another step in the process.
    Mary - Mizsissy is right - you have to do your exercises. I was vigilant, did them twice a day for about 20 - 30 minutes and it really helped. On June 18 I will be 6 months out from surgery and I fell pretty good most of the time. Did you have a big lymph node dissection - I had 16 out, still numb there from that, which I am told will never totally go away. The tightness will get beter, try massagind pure Vitamin E cream or pure aloe vera gel on the scar twice a day, this should help loosen it up.
    Tina and other dog "lovers" ( I am kidding) - Years ago I was almost attacked by my boyfriend's St. Bernard - I swore the dog was jealous of me because when I was at his house, the dog didn't get all of my boyfriend's attention. His family laughed at me and said I was imagining it. Well after if lunged at me one day, I had to hop a fence to escape. Two weeks later it mauled a 7 year old neighbourhood boy and they had to put the dog down. Since then I have not been too crazy about dogs ( or cats either, actually).
    We ordered the new computer, it should arrive early next week. DD's new cell phone is being deliverd tomorrow too.
    DH is off to New York on business for about 6 days. We could use the break.
    Feeling better, minimal headache today, probably because of the humid weather.
    I hope I can get in on the chat room next time, it sounds like it was alot of fun.
    caya
  • mer1957
    mer1957 Member Posts: 534
    edited June 2007

    Caya, thanks for the idea about the cream on the scar. I will try that. I have been doing the exercises a couple of times a day and have good range of motion but the tightness and numbness is around the axillary disection mostly and the pain is in the front when you push down on the chest/scar area. I had 13 nodes out. I am used to doing an upper body workout with 10 to 12 pound weights and I don't know if I'll ever get back to that. I used to really enjoy that and I hate to give it up. The girls at the gym are waiting for me to come back. I might be able to do the exercise with no weights and work my way back. I am just very competitive and push myself a bit.

  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited June 2007
    What chat are you guys talking about? Are you talking about the chat in here?

    I have been chatting in here since I first found my lump.... in September 06. I got a lot of information when I was first diagnosed and made a new crew of friends in the chat room in this site.
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited June 2007
    Hi all,
    I had a fun visit with a good friend today. We went to the mall- only twice since November- and she helped me pick out some clip earrings loops and hoops to wear with my scarves. I never pierced my ears and I am not going to do it now. We had a very fun day. My cheeks are so red from the steroids, they look like I have been in the sun. One good thing about steroids!!! LOL
    Lynn,
    What a nice thoughtful gift for your dd to give you.
    Melia,
    What were your wbc? Mine were 3.1 this week and they still gave me taxol. I am quite energetic Friday til Sunday. I think it is the decradron that is still in my system. I start to crash on Monday and Tuesday.
    Nancy,
    Congratulations on finishing!!!
    I believe it is the decradron they give you with the taxol that makes you retain fluid. I also am very tired days after my txs. I think it is the cumulative effect, and since you are at the end, you should be the most tired. Luckily this will pass, and you will begin to regain your strength back real soon. I think Mel’s doctor gave her some diuretics. My doctor told me that I should make sure I drink plenty of water and also that if I put lemon in my water, that should act as a diuretic.
    Caya,
    Sorry you had such a yucky day. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.
    Mary,
    I just had a lumpectomy, so I cannot help you. I will have a bilateral mastectomy in August and then I will be the one asking you the questions.By that time you will be all healed and feeling much better.
    Mel,
    How are you? Is your surgery next week? Please keep us posted.
    Catch you all later,
    Viddie
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited June 2007
    My skin has done crazy things since starting chemo. It dried out very fast and I, for the first time, started using Clinique to clean and moisturize my face.

    Then the skin on my face really looked nice - the pores shrank, I had no blemishes. I was excited. If we could have a grace from the misery of chemo, that was a nice one.

    Now that chemo's done my face is trying to revert. It has some of the oil but not all and I'm so glad. I've always had very oily skin. The pores seem back to normal size, too big for me but what do you do?

    Cindy.....still waiting to figure out what my new normal is!
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited June 2007
    A college graduation for a niece, another for a friend's daughter, a b-day party for a 7 y/o great-niece and dinner with friends Sunday evening.

    I'm not going to try to go to the graduations. I'll show up at the parties. I'm so tired I think I need to conserve what energy I have. And it seems as if I'll need a lot of energy to eat cake! And then to just eat!



    Cindy
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited June 2007
    Mary...you should work with your surgeon & physical therapy to find out how to target that tightness problem you're having and W O R K I T O U T as Jackie would say!!!

    Robbin, we had a cyber party on Thursday nite at 8:30 PM. We just met at the chat room, Staying Connected (the one people don't use) and all got together. I think there were about 14 of us.

    Mizsissy
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited June 2007
    If I had the money and the time, I'd be traveling to festivals. I've begun my countdown to August when I go to Colorado. I love traveling and having a goal/destination/activity at the other end of the travel is great for me since I almost always travel alone. Plus the music just sends me into heaven.

    I've a list of festivals I'd like to attend: Kerrville, the Woody Guthrie festival, back to Winnipeg, actually Canada puts on some supreme festivals so I could go from east to west exploring Canada and listening to music.

    sigh

    In my dreams....travel, music, books, a companion or two or dozen

    Cindy
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited June 2007
    Good Morning,
    Viddie, my wbc were 2.3. He adds he neutrophils and the monos together, mulitiplies by the wbc, and his target is 1500. Once I was just under and he cut the taxol down by a bit, once I was waaaaay under and he delayed treatment a week (that was before I started taxol, so I had a four wk break after ac instead of 3). So every week it's a struggle, but the one time he delayed, I felt wonderful by the time I started again. I am sure it isn't optimum, but I can't control it and don't want to end up in the hospital, so I just worry on Tuesdays! I really want to finish on July 5; I am going away the 12th - 15th and don't want to delay it, but again, out of my control.

    Today we are going on a day trip to a local wolf preserve. I had planned to go but my dh was going to do a training run, and now that his ankle has hurt, he has decided to come along. I am happy to have his company. I am very used to doing things alone on Saturdays but this will be fun.

    Cindy, I didn't feel like we answered too much re your concerns a while back about finding a partner. What is your thinking on that now?

    Viddie, glad you are feeling ok. The shopping sounds like fun!

    Robbin, good luck on the sale today! I need to do that; the kids always point out what a disaster it will be when we move, we have so much junk. But lots of it is theirs!

    Have a good day all.

    Melia
  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited June 2007
    Hi,
    Cindy,
    Have fun at all your events this weekend.
    Melia,
    My oncologist told me that if I miss a week due to low WBC, he will not make up that week. I will just lose it. That is okay with me because my surgery is scheduled 4 weeks after last taxol and having taxol one week late would totally screw up the surgeons schedule and would delay my surgery until who knows when. That is not the reason she would not make up the taxol, it is just her policy that if you miss one, it is gone. If your onc has the same rule, then even if you had to miss a tx, you should be able to go on your trip.
    Have a good day,
    Viddie
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited June 2007
    I dreamed I had a full head of hair; I just grew it over night. I was standing in front of the mirror with my brush arranging it, changing it into different styles that looked a lot like the pictures in the wig catalog. Some were very flattering, some weren't. Then it dawned on me that this couldn't possibly be real hair and I was probably having a dream, so I called my husband to come and look at my head, to make sure the hair was real.

    I can't wait to have some real hair on my head, enough to wear!!! A ponytail!!! Curls?

    In the morning I woke up with my bare head on the pillow next to my husbands...he has such georgeous hair, long, full, healthy, some of it six inches. I realize it will take a year for me to grow that much hair!!!!

    Maybe I need a new wig!!!

    Mizsissy
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited June 2007
    Hey ladies,
    Mizsissy I dream almost every night that I have hair. I just ordered a new wig for summer, a short one. Ol' Red is too hot on my neck. And I know from observing the ladies at the chemo room that even if my hair gets to the one inch length by summer's end it may not look attractive enough for dress up.

    Caya I'm glad you have all your nails. I wonder then who it was who lost a thumbnail. Mine seem to be holding on so far so maybe they will make it. I started taking glutamine again.

    Nancy congrats on last Taxol!

    Cindy, that sounds like a great festival wish list. And I thought your skin looked lovely when we met. Certainly better than mine.

    Thanks to those of you who shared dog stories and sympathy. Being bitten in the leg, yikes! I think the shock would kill me.

    And I did get to meet Dr. Wingate Clapper yesterday although I was late cause I kept making wrong turns to get there. He calls himself "Win" and looks very British (long bangs,, preppy clothes) but isn't. I liked him very much, didn't feel rushed and he was anxious to answer all questions. He was also much more optimistic about my pronosis than my regular onc. He even said it was "favorable!" That was a great boost. I go for the testing and setup on Tuesday and then the simulation next Friday, and begin rads June 11. I'm so relieved to have things set at last.

    BTW, there was an article in this morning's paper about how cancer care should extent beyond surgery and chemo, see
    http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=613777
    Happy weekend, everyone - Skye
  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited June 2007
    I'm counting down to next Saturday when I am San Diego bound. Can't wait. Haven't been back to Cali in ten years! We have lots of fun stuff to do as part of the conference my husband is attending. We are also staying at the Laguna Cliffs Marriott for the weekend. Looks beautiful. It's near where I used to live.

    MizSissy, I sent a pic to your email address of me w/hair 2 mos. out post chemo. I don't know how hard or time consuming it is to upload those things...but I figured I'd send if you all want to see how much hair you might be able to expect.

    Heading to a really nice wedding in an hour. I'm not even worrying about getting ready because it's pretty easy sans hair. I am wearing the "hoop of hair" and a black straw hat that my DH and kids aren't wacky about..they say I look like a pirate. Oh well... I will need a glass of wine stat upon arrival so I'm not totally self conscious...
  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited June 2007
    Wingate Clipper? LOL, Skye. What a handle!

    Congrats Nancy!!! You did it!

    You too, MizSissy and Amera! Finito!
  • tlc60
    tlc60 Member Posts: 83
    edited June 2007
    Hi All:
    Just sat down to catch up and read what seemed like thousands of posts! That is a good thing because I needed the rest! This last week I have been feeling pretty puny, I'm 5 weeks out from my last Taxotere, and I have had every imaginable s/e possible! Why now?? That coupled with the radiation, WHEW! This last week was also VERY busy for me so I had to keep going. My son is graduating from 8th grade next week so he has all these band preformances, school functions, etc. Work was the busiest we've been in a very long time, so no down time there...I'm pooped!
    I agree, another chat would be great, I missed the last one, but would love to try it sometime 8-)
    Hope you all have a great weekend..
    tlc
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited June 2007
    TPPJ, when was your last chemo? Mine was March 5 and I only have half as much hair as you do, but I was losing hair a month after chemo (like Lynn, who also took taxotere).

    Thanx for the picture...someday I'll get brave enough to show mine to the world, maybe about six months from now??!!!

    One thing I do like about being bald is that if I get hot at night sleeping I can get up and wet my head!!!

    xxxooo Mizsissy
  • jonimb
    jonimb Member Posts: 900
    edited June 2007
    Hello all:

    Well it’s a beautiful day here, and instead of going to the mountains, my husband says we have to clean out the garage…oh well, I don’t mind, we’ll go for our drive tomorrow! It’s really warm here for Alberta, in the 80’s.

    Melia, I would love to go to that wolf preserve with you, sounds very interesting.

    Lynn, that Rad countdown that your daughter made, is a really great idea.

    Nancy, I think all the pre-chemo drugs is what gives us the swelling, and also keeps us awake.

    Caya, hope your headache is better, I don’t get them very often, but when I do I get some whoppers so I feel for you.

    Skye, I don’t have any fingernails that went black, but one big toe nail did. My fingernails have white lines going across them for each chemo, but I only have Chemo #5 & #6 left, as I’ve cut off the others.

    Rebecca, I get 2 Zaps each time with a bolus, and 2 zaps without. How many zaps are each of you guys getting every time?

    Amera, I had my mustache area waxed one time, and ended up with these little white bubbles all over the area, so never again. I currently don’t have enough eyebrows to wax.

    Mary, sometimes its hard to talk to anyone about how we feel. The only people that really understand are the ones that have gone thru it too.

    Viddie your spirit sounds a lot better this week

    Jan, I tried cheese with Thor, but then he just forgets about the ball, and drools for the cheese….that boy of mine, sure makes me laugh!!

    My hair is really starting to come in….REALLY SLOW…hahaha.

    Chat Rooms each Tuesday & Thursday “Staying connected forum” @ 8:30 ET, 7:30 Central, 6:30 MST, 5:30 Pacific. We’ll see how it goes!!

    Tina, I want to see how much hair you have...so post it for all of us.

    Bagged right now...been working out in my garden.

    Hugs to all....Joni

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