June 2007 Chemo

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  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited May 2007
    Sandra, bless your heart, there is so much emotional baggage with this bc, isn't there? I had a bilateral
    mastectomy in April and although I am older than you I am
    still having a hard time dealing w/being flat but I don't regret my decision. I didn't want to do anymore surgeries, too many lately! But I'm like you and feel like people are looking, oh I'm sure some do, well I know they do, can't help theirselves I guess, you know the ones who know you've had a mastectomy! But most are too busy w/their own lives and problems and we feel self conscious
    but w/time we will adjust or possibly you will be having reconstruction? I am going to get fitted as soon as I finish w/my aspirations, still have too much swelling.
    The hair loss can be really hard for us, some handle it better than others but hopefully you'll find something that you are comfortable with like scarves or hats/turbans.
    My 38yr old daughter recently lost hers and she wore a bucket type hat for awhile, kept the hair on the sides as long as she could and now wears a wig and switches to a sleep cap at night. She was worried about losing her eyelashes so bought a couple pairs of fake ones and kept them in her drawer so she'd have them handy.
    I was hoping to stay busy too this week-end, to divert my attentions but it is raining buckets here and is supposed to continue so no getting outside.
    I'm going to sign up for the look good feel better program which is July 16th I believe.
    I did attend one of these in 03 and it was really neat.
    They give you some great tips and suggestions, I was particularly interested at that time on how to draw on eyebrows, I was the worst! But they also give you a huge container w/loads of great make-up and items for facial care.
    Hope you are doing ok,
    Hugs
  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited May 2007
    Diana, my very best wishes that your surgery Wednesday goes well and you heal quickly. Let us know how you are doing.
    I too will be starting 4 cycles of Taxotere.

    Hugs
  • b445
    b445 Member Posts: 1,325
    edited May 2007
    While I was doing CMF I lost about 60% of my hair. This time they say i'll lose it all! If I can come through this being healthy then losing my hair is a small price to pay. Yes it will be hard. I won't kid my self there. My daughter got me involved in The Red Hat Socitiy so I've been wearing hats like I have never done before. My husband works at a salon and the owner is going to work with me on the wigs.
    The Look Good Feel Good is a great opotuntity that you should all look into it free and so weel worth it.

    There is a group in the Moving Beoynd Time to Circle The Wagon thread that makes afgans. We crochet or knit 7 x 9 squares and send them to two gals they put boarder around them and make them into afgans! We have done 19 afgans in just a few months. They are hugs and weel wishes from all over the world when put together. If you are looking for something you can do to keep your mind busy that's an easy project. I can personally speak for how wonderful it feels to be on both ends of this project. I had been making squares and sending them along with my Mom and Sister and then one day shortly after the new DX I came home to a beautiful afgan and feel the love and hugs everytime I see it and cuddle up in it!

    I guess I didn't tell you all I strted this journey as a satege1c grade3c triple negative

    Stay postitive think good thoughts oh and besides drinking lots of water you may want to try some pineapple juice or prune juice to help with the constipation you will face. try to stay a head of it you'll feel better

    Got to run and take care of my Mother in law.

    hugs & Prayers
  • TerryNY
    TerryNY Member Posts: 603
    edited May 2007
    Hi, ladies,
    Just checking in really quick as I still have company this week.
    My son's wedding was so lovely but I'm glad it's over, I was exhausted all day yesterday! I had my port placed on Monday and I wasn't very happy with the dr's insistance on getting it done NOW. Oh, well, what's done is done.
    I'm happy-sad to see our June group growing, I hope we're able to help each other on our chemo journey.
    Sandra, I've taken to popping xanax on my 'bad' days with worry. It does help to take the edge off and I'm glad I asked for it...I'm not a pill-popper either but as my onc dr stated, 'we don't expect you to be Wonder Woman'.
    Good luck, I know it's hard.
    As for me, he (the onc dr) did not put me on coumadin for my port and I've been worried sick about it. I just decided this morning to buy some adult 81 mg aspirin and take one every other day and just tell him I'm doing this for my peace of mind.
    Does anyone have advice on this?
    I'm sorry I don't have the time to participate fully yet, will be going out of town Tuesday-Friday and my company leaves next Sunday.
    I start chemo that Monday, bad timing for me as I'll be down from my sisters leaving the day before. I WILl get through this though!!
    Chery, thanks so much for initiating the get-to-know-us list! When I have more time I'll reread this thread and get caught up...till then, my thoughts are with everyone who's starting treatment this week.
  • litig8or
    litig8or Member Posts: 54
    edited May 2007
    I didn't get on Coumadin when I got my port. I have never heard of that. If anyone knows why, let me in on the scoop. But for me, I suppose the reason would be that since I'm on Avistan (clinical trial), which makes healing much more difficult; I shouldn't be on blood thinners. It's interesting how were all in the same boat, but going in slightly different directions!


    As for taking Aspirin, I was told not to take anything that could reduce fever. My onc gave me a Rx for a pain reliever that wouldn't reduce fever at the same time. If you get an infection, fever is likely the first symptom...you don't want to mask that. Talk to your doc Terry before starting a new med.

    My hair started falling out last night (day 12 after 1st dose) and it is really coming out today. I'll go get it cut very short tomorrow and take my 20 month old to supervise so I don't scare him by coming home with really shirt hair. (It's shoulder length right now). This week will really freak me out....I love my hair. It's one of my best features.

    I hope everyone had a good weekend!
  • Terrilee2
    Terrilee2 Member Posts: 13
    edited May 2007
    Hi ladies,

    In regards to the coumadin, my doc explained to me that there is a chance of fiberous tissue growth appearing around the internal port that could cause clogging from the end of the port to the artery. Very Low dose Coumadin aleviates the possibility of that happening. Perhaps you could ask your infusion specialist if she can give you some conclusive data on that. My prayers and good thoughts to all of you starting this week. YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

    Peace,

    Terri
  • allgone
    allgone Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2007
    Hi,

    I would like to join the June group, if you all will have me. I am 37yrs old with a 5 yr old son and a great husdand of 15 years. I was diagnosed mid march with IDC, had a partial masectomy mid April on the left side and then a partial masectomy on the right in mid May as they found 2 suspicious areas. (right side was negative nothing to worry about) I start Chemo June 7. 3 cycles of Adrucil, Cytoxan, and pharmorubicin (would that be ACP ??)and then 3 cycles of Taxotere. The mass was 4.5cm, stage 2, grade 3/3, IDC, no node involvement, evidence of vascular invasion, er-, pr in 3% of cells, and the her is still pending. Radiation will follow chemo and then tomoxifin (I guess the onc is worried about a false negative with the er-) I just want to get the show on the road. I guess I will be at home with you all wishing the summer away (since that means the treatments will be over)I received so much info at my chemo education appointment this morning...it should take me all night to digest it all.
    Keep smiling
  • kath11
    kath11 Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2007
    Hi Everyone,

    I hope you all are having a great long weekend. My oncologist just called me this morning telling me my blood tests showed that my liver levels were elevated so he wants to do a PET scan before chemo. It's got me very worried. Has anyone else been told this? I know so many painkillers and the chemo affect the liver. I wonder if it will change my treatment. I'm worried about mets. So many things to worry about!

    xoxo
    Kathleen
  • GracieM2007
    GracieM2007 Member Posts: 1,564
    edited May 2007
    I take a baby aspirin daily. I was told a few years ago by my rhuematologist that I have a marker in my blood that shows the tendency for blood clots, although to my knowledge I've never had one. So I take a baby aspirin anyway. I wonder if my onc will let me continue taking them, or if he will change me over to coumadin? I think I have a bleeding ulcer in my stomach too....I've had them before and I have all the symptoms. I don't knowk what they would do about that and chemo?

    Gracie
  • SusieSwan
    SusieSwan Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2007
    Welcome to all our new June 2007 chemo cruisers...

    Kathleen, don't gett too worked up about the liver levels just yet. I know that's easier said than done but there's many other things that do increase those levels (like exercise). I've not had a PET scan but my girlfriend has and said it was no problem and better to have all the info up front. I agree, there is so many things to worry about. With each test we have to do from here on out, it will be this way.

    I'll share this story from earlier this week...I had the usual chest x-ray and blood work done Monday afternoon..Tuesday night I got home and there's a message on my machine that says "Susan, this is Dr. Alikhan and I need you to page me regarding your chest x-ray. I will call you back as soon as you page me". I literally slid down the wall, started shaking, trying to find my husband as I was sure he was telling me I had spots on my lungs. When he called me back, he just wanted to let me know it was okay. I told him he about gave me heart failure...geez, it's rare I think for docs to have you page them so they can set your mind at ease regarding tests.

    Allgone - I start chemo 2 days before you so I'll be sure and post my experience.

    Hope everyone had a great Memorial Day weekend.

    Talk to you this week,
    Susan

    I'm getting my port on Wednesday and doctor didn't say anything about coumadin either. My Mom did have some clotting disorders with a surgery in the past so maybe I should mention this.
  • DebbieK
    DebbieK Member Posts: 116
    edited May 2007
    Wow, I was gone over the long weekend, and there were so many posts to read! We live in Vancouver, WA and took our motorhome and went with our friends over to Bend, OR for the weekend. Weather was great, and it was so nice to get away and try to forget all this bc stuff. It is amazing how often it came up in conversation, however.

    Tomorrow I go in for my port. The surgeon who did my mastectomy is putting it in so I have to go into day surgery for it. I will be glad to have it done. I start chemo next Monday, the 4th. For some reason, I am not feeling really anxious about it; I just want to get it underway. I really hope I can work throughout.

    Kathleen, my liver test showed elevated enzymes, and they had to do a ultrasound. I was also freaked out about that but last week when I saw the dr. he said it checked out normal. They also did a bone scan that was normal. I think they are extra cautious to be sure that in case there is something else they know it before starting the treatment. I'll be thinking about you.

    I really appreciate all the posts and support in this group.

    Debbie
  • jenninerena
    jenninerena Member Posts: 12
    edited May 2007
    Susie-I start May 31st. I went out and bought me a portable DVD player so I will have something to do while I take my treatments. I hope all of us do well with our treatments. I will have 6 rounds, 3 FEC a combination of Fluorouracil, Epirubicin & Cytoxam. 3 Taxotere. I will be back to post and see how everyone else is doing.
    Jennine
  • lastminuteD
    lastminuteD Member Posts: 333
    edited May 2007
    Terri - today is four days right? How are you feeling?

    Dawn
  • allgone
    allgone Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2007
    Susieswan,
    Thanks, I would love to know what to expect. It is one thing to listen to a nurse tell you things. it is another when someone has experienced it and tells you how things really are.
    Keep smiling
  • honeygirl
    honeygirl Member Posts: 1,718
    edited May 2007

    Good Morning Everyone. I would like to join in the June cruise if I may. I'm Melody I had rt. breast mast. Mar.29th. with immed. reconstruction with diep. IDC,gr.2 er,pr+ her- , 2cm. They concidered me boarderline and tumor board and 2 oncs suggested chemo. I haven't got my oncotype test back yet , but have decided to have chemo. I was suppose to start today , but they "forgot" to schedule me for a muga scan! So if they can get that done today and get results , it will be today or maybe tomorrow.I am having a hard time coping with the fact that I will lose my hair. It was long and I had it cut. Was told it was the best thing to do so its not so devestating when it starts to fall out. Well , looking forward to sharing with everyone. Hugs and prayers Mel

  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited May 2007
    Litig8or I dread the hair loss thing too. I have been thru this before and it will come back, I know this but it's hard on most of us. Have you purchased a wig or some scarves, hats/turbans? They have so many new selections since my last go around.

    Kathleen yes I have been told my liver levels were elevated but my Onc had told me we would wait for the blood tests results at the next 3 month check-up and they were fine. I understand that alot of things can cause this but I'm glad your Onc is sending you for the PET to be on the safe side. Let us know how your test went.
    About a month ago I had had a CT scan done and my surgeon had called to say I had 3 tumors all over 1cm and needed to do a biopsy. I went in for the biopsy and they turned me everyway but on my head and couldn't find them. Yea for me but where did they go? So I worry about that. I'll have another CT scan and PET in a couple of months to make sure things are ok, we need that peace of mind.

    Susan, oh my gosh, heart failure is right! I'm so glad your test was ok though!!

    Neither dx have I been offered coumadin.
  • SusieSwan
    SusieSwan Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2007
    1) Cy/b445 - Washington - 5/25 Start - Abraxane/Avaisten
    2) Sandra/idohair - Canada - 5/28 Start, 3 FEC, T
    3) Pam/galnok - Oklahoma - 5/31 Start 4 T
    4) Dawn/lastminuted - June Start - 4 AC, 4 T
    5) Terry/TerryNY - New York - 6/4 Start - 4 AC, 4 T
    6) Cheryl/southerncheryl - North Miss 6/7 Start - 4 AC, 4 T
    7) Terri/5Kids 5/24 Start - 4 AC, 4 T
    8) Susan/SusieSwan - Illinois - June Start - 4 AC
    9) Jennine/jenninerena - NC - Start 5/31 3 FEC, T
    10) Bonnie/burquie - NY - June Start - 4 AC, 4 T
    11) Debbie/DebbieK - Wash - - 4 AC, 4 T
    12) Debbie/bomber410 - Boston - June start
    13) Hillary/NarberthMom
    14) Kathy/litig8or - AR - 5/15 Started - A/C
    15) Kathleen/Kath11 - CA - Start 6/4 - 4 AC, 4 T
    16) Gracie/GracieM -
    17) Diana/KiddleGirl - 4 T
    18) Linda/Charlie451 - TX - Start 6/8 - TC
    19) Ann/Ann425 - Start 6/1 - 4 TC
    20) Patt/Thayer - CO - 4 AC/ 4T
    21) allgone - Start 6/7 3 ACP, T

    Please let us know if we missed anyone or have incorrect information.
  • allgone
    allgone Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2007
    Wow!!
    21 of us to date are starting chemo in June alone, and to just think we are a small percentage of this population that has actually register and are posting. It is truly amazing how many people are dx with BC everyday. When you see a list like ours it sort of puts alot into perspective!! Thank God we will ALL be O.K.
    Anyway, on a lighter note.. It is my Wedding Anniversary tomorrow. We are going for a nice dinner (last one prior to Chemo starting) I will enjoy every last bite!! I think I have found a couple of goods things about loosing your hair...summers here, we should be a little cooler, and no shaving of the legs and underarms ALL summer, we just need to put on the shorts and tank tops and off we go!!
    Keep Smiling
  • Terrilee2
    Terrilee2 Member Posts: 13
    edited May 2007
    Good Morning ladies,
    Well, I made it through the weekend, and have to tell you that as uncomfortable as I was, it was do-able. Chemo on Thursday afternoon, slight nausea Thursday evening, and the steroids do not lend to a good nights rest. Take a sleeping aid, you will appreciate it. Friday, I felt really pretty good. Took my dog for a three mile run, and then went in for my Neulasta shot in the afternoon. Friday night sleep still was difficult. Saturday Morning, and I didn't feel the best, had a hard time managing food, and slept the day away. Saturday night I slept well. Sunday morning came, and again, I was feeling pretty darned good. I spent the day puttering around the house, and got a good nights rest. Yesterday was yet another pretty good day, and I am guessing that I am over the worst of it for this treatment. I feels like really severe morning sickness for those of you how have had children. If you eat a little every couple of hours, it helps alot. Also... water water water... even if it tastes icky. I am back at work today, and thinking of you all. Welcome to all of our new sisters. We will get through this... we will!

    Peace,
    Terri.
  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited May 2007
    Terri, Thanks for the update. You are like a big sister who experiences it all first and then teaches the younger ones about it.

    I get my port tomorrow and my first round of AC on Thursday. I have a business dinner Thursday night and all day meetings with business partners on Friday. Then driving 6 hours to visit my dad in upstate NY Friday night. We'll see how it goes. Have to remember to drink, drink, drink water.

    Terri, do you notice the port when you run? They told me to wait 5 days before running after the port is inserted. Did you wait?

    Thanks for sharing your experience.

    Debbie C.
  • idohair
    idohair Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2007
    i just had my treatment yesterday and im not feeling too bad
    some nausea last night, and im having a hard time with food today, sort of like morning sickness for sure im tired
    i had to get poked 2 times for the iv, it was brutal but once we got started it wasnt too bad
    im hoping i feel better in a few days though...............
  • SusieSwan
    SusieSwan Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2007
    Terri, that is such good news that you are doing okay...well, I'd say fantastic if you could do a 3 mile run, holy cow, that is great news. I'm hoping to keep up my daily 3 mile WALKS with my dogs.

    Debbie C., I hope all goes just as good for you, sounds like you have a very busy schedule. Be sure and plan lots of stops on your drive for potty breaks with all the fluids you'll be drinking!

    Sandra, that's the only reason I'll be happy I have this port is to avoid the finding a good vein.

    For those of you doing DD therapy, are most of you taking Neulasta the day after or is anyone taking the daily growth factor shots that are given in your stomach (that they tell me I can learn to give myself?

    Susan
  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited May 2007
    Susan, I know that I'm expecting Neulasta the day after my treatment. I did talk to another lady who went through treatment last summer. She had to do the daily shots. She said it was pretty easy. When my father had knee replacement surgery, he had to do shots to his stomach. I stayed with him for a week and gave him the shots. He was also able to do them for himself. When I gave him the shot, he didn't seem to have discomfort. I'm assuming, like with insulin shots, the needles are pretty fine. Good luck!

    Debbie C.
  • carrie59
    carrie59 Member Posts: 6
    edited May 2007

    Thanks for the update from the ones that have started their treatments. So if this is like morning sickness then I can handle that. Was very sick with my first child but got through it. That gives me some hope. Picked up all my meds (anti- nausea and steriods to prevent allergic reaction)from the pharmacy today so I am ready to start on Friday. I wish everyone has an easy time of it and we will get through this together.

  • pstanislaus
    pstanislaus Member Posts: 15
    edited May 2007
    Hi Ladies,
    I'm joining your group on behalf of my Mom, She is 66 years old, She was diagnosed with IBC and started her first treatment last week. She is going to have 4 treatments of AC biweekly and 4 treatments of T to follow, She is also getting a shot of Neulasta the day after her treatment. She did OK the first day after chemo she didn't have any Nausea but the day after Neulasta she felt awful, she was in so much pain that she had to take pain meds continuously. She is getting better now but still feels week.

    We have our 1st onc visit after chemo next week, and then she goes in for round 2. Have any of you had experience with the body pain after Neulasta? Any advise to help her get thought it? Reading all of your comments is very helpful, just to know that there are others going through the same stuff that you are.

    Thanks Patricia
  • DebbieK
    DebbieK Member Posts: 116
    edited May 2007
    Well, I just got home from getting my port put in. I talked to my surgeon about the coumidan (sp?) question. She does not recommend it for me but said I could take a baby aspirin each day and should be taking one a day anyway for good health.

    I also am glad to hear the chemo nausea related to morning sickness; makes it sound a little less fearsome.

    Take care, Debbie
  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited May 2007
    Since I didn't have morning sickness for my son, does that mean I'm off the hook for that morning sickness feeling with the chemo??? :-)

    Patricia, regarding Neulasta, I did read about it in another forum. I'd have to search back. It seems folks had a mix of reactions. If I find the thread, I'll try to post a link here.

    Debbie
  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited May 2007
    Here is the thread I found earlier on Neulasta. Be sure to page up to the top to see the start of the thread.

    http://community.breastcancer.org/ubbthr...true#Post618851

    Debbie
  • prairieink
    prairieink Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2007
    Dear NarberthMom, It's good to hear from someone who's completed chemo w/o too much trouble(and who also did not use a port). Thanx!
    Dear Thread Sisters: I am new to this discussion group- so extremely happy to have found it! Am joining the June Chemo Cruise; I will begin dose dense 4x AC on May 30, then follow with Taxol 4x. I too am nervous & low-grade depressed about starting (for instance, putting off doing chores to prepare!), so it's helpful to hear others say the same.
    I had partial, rather than full, mastectomy even tho my BC is recurrence (after 10 years disease-free). Not sure that was the most prudent surgery choice, but will reassess later after chemo. Am scheduled to do AI drug,Aromasin, later.
    Thanx to all for the great tips on prevention & management of side-effects!
    Regards to all,
    Cathy
  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited May 2007
    I didn't place a vote because I figure it's up to each person as to whether it's okay to use the port or not. I'm choosing to go with the port. I know needles are not for me. My veins also agree and hide when a needle comes towards my arm.

    I have a friend who went through rounds of chemo for her non-Hodgkins Lymphoma without a port and she had no complaints.

    Debbie

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