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saluki
saluki Member Posts: 2,287
Well its time to take matters in our own hands. I think the
Bees and our pets have been our canary in the mine.
The suspicion being that it was not the melamine or the cyuranic acid or that combo but rather genetically modified wheat not labeled as such
Dr. Fox. In fact, he speculates that the Chinese wheat was genetically engineered or modified (GMO), and this is the source of the problem.

"It most probably was," he states, "since it was not imported for human consumption, and was possibly an experimental crop with anti-fungus blight and viral disease genetic insertions that could have gone haywire as a result of 'overexpression'. Melamine, the parent chemical for a potent insecticide cyromazine, could possibly have been manufactured within the wheat plants themselves as a genetically engineered pesticide." Alternatively, the culprit could be glyphosate, says Dr. Fox, an herbicide that is absorbed by crops that are genetically engineered so that they escape harm while the weeds in the field around them die.
The FDA does not regulate its presence in pet food or animal feed. Furthermore, as with human products, genetically engineered foods do not have to declare their "altered" status on North American labels.
Now add to this the fact that China supplies most of the vitamin and supplements to the industry

You would be hard pressed to find Vitamin C manufactured outside China.
They also produce a third of the folic acid.
Its time to know where our supplements originate? Not just what American company they are manufactured for. It is time to boycott
this stuff for our own safety.

Can we start a list of Vitamins and Supplements that are not sourced
in China? If there is something you are using that you are certain
does not originate in China; Can you post it here and where it is available for purchase?

As most of us are immunosuppressed already, we need to be vigilant.

Looking at my supplements the one I'm sure of is my CoQ10 gels. The best quality are produced in Japan. This Brand is Healthy Origins Co Q10 gels. It is NON- GMO and is Kaneka Q10 only
manufactured in Japan and Pasadena Texas. (the only Q10 raw material made in the USA)
It comes in 100mg and 300mg. I got mine from iherb.com





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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2007
    Susie...I couldn't link to the article you posted..? As for the origins of our supplements, how do we tell...can we assume that if its put out by a certain manufacturer, it comes from a specific country? Most of my stuff is Whole Foods, SolGar or Solaray, but the bottles just give the addresses of the companies.

    Marin
  • BlindedByScience
    BlindedByScience Member Posts: 314
    edited May 2007
    I asked Life Extension about their sources and the entire reply is below. It's still a bit vague, so if you're interested, you might send them a list and ask specifically about the products:

    Virtually none of our products and raw materials come from China, so their contamination issues have not been a problem for us so far. (Some herbs only grow in China.) We usually source from Europe and Japan or from domestic sources. Our quality control system has kept our products free from adulterants.



    Dave Tuttle
    Dept. of Correspondence
    Life Extension Scientific Information, Inc.
    1-800-226-2370 EXT #7514
  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited May 2007
    Ok, Here the article Marin-- I can't make it link:
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    China's additives on menu in U.S.
    It is the leading supplier of many ingredients in packaged food. Barring the imports is difficult.
    By Don Lee, Times Staff Writer
    May 18, 2007
    SHANGHAI — As the recall of tainted pet food mushroomed into an international scandal, two of the largest U.S. food manufacturers put out a blanket order to their American suppliers: No more ingredients from China.

    The directive from Mission Foods Corp. and Tyson Foods Inc., made quietly this month, underscored consumers' and manufacturers' fears about the safety of imported food ingredients after contaminated wheat products from China killed and sickened cats and dogs in the United States.

    The problem is, what Mission and Tyson want is next to impossible.

    In the last decade, China has become the world's leading supplier of many food flavorings, vitamins and preservatives. Like fingernail clippers, playing cards, Christmas ornaments and other items, some food additives are available in vast quantities only from China.

    China exported $2.5 billion of food ingredients to the United States and the rest of the world in 2006, an increase of 150% from just two years earlier, according to Chinese industry estimates. It is now the predominant maker of vanilla flavoring, citric acid and varieties of vitamin B such as thiamine, riboflavin and folic acid — nutrients commonly added to processed flour goods such as Mission tortillas and Tyson breaded chicken.

    "It would be somewhat difficult to move away from all the vitamins in China," said Monte White, president of Research Products Co., a large supplier of nutrients for flour mixes. He said his Salina, Kan.-based company was stepping up its testing of imported goods despite having had "very consistent results" from China in the last five years.

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    Little oversight in China

    China's overall food safety record is poor. Use of chemical fertilizers and toxic pesticides is heavy. Fraud and corruption often thwart what lax controls exist. In recent years, U.S. officials have issued alerts about Chinese honey tainted with a harmful antibiotic; Chinese candy containing sulfites that can cause fatal allergic reactions; and infant formula missing vital nutrients, which in China left a dozen babies dead in 2004.

    A small group of large manufacturers dominate the production of food ingredients in China, but hundreds if not thousands of small, virtually anonymous businesses — such as the two linked to the pet-food scandal — operate in an industry lacking tough standards and enforcement.

    "Some of them are driven by profits; you can see dollar signs in their eyes," said Jan Willem Roben, head of Vision Ingredients, a Shanghai-based trader of food additives.

    In the U.S., major food manufacturers often don't know where all their ingredients originate. Mission, a Texas-based unit of Mexican food giant Gruma, would not comment about that or its directive, but said it was working with its suppliers to ensure the products were safe. Arkansas-based Tyson, one of the nation's largest providers of beef and chicken, did not respond to interview requests.

    Many packaged foods contain dozens of items from around the world, acquired through complex networks of traders and brokers, before they get processed at manufacturing plants where companies have more direct oversight.

    "Until now, companies just didn't care about commodity additives," said Laszlo Somogyi, a retired senior consultant at SRI International, a nonprofit research institute in Menlo Park, Calif. "But that might be changing now. This was a warning," he said, referring to the pet-food debacle.

    Somogyi believes tainted food additives pose a relatively low risk to humans because such ingredients are used in tiny amounts in any given product. Still, it wasn't until the pet-food poisoning that people learned that melamine, an industrial chemical banned in foods in the U.S., had been widely added to animal feed in China to artificially boost its protein level.

    "The same thing could have happened in the human food chain," Somogyi said.

    Chinese-made ingredients are probably found in every aisle of American supermarkets. Consider that American favorite, the Hostess Twinkie. Of its 39 ingredients, at least half a dozen — such as vitamin B compounds, the preservative sorbic acid and red and yellow colorings — are most likely made in China, says Steve Ettlinger, author of the book, "Twinkie, Deconstructed."

    In an interview from New York, Ettlinger said he couldn't be sure where Interstate Bakeries Corp., the maker of Twinkies, obtained those ingredients. The Kansas City, Mo., company wouldn't help him with his research, he said, and food makers rarely list the origin of individual ingredients on packages. Nor do they necessarily want to know where it all comes from.

    "The more you know, the pickier you get and the more it costs," Ettlinger said.

    David Leavitt, Interstate Bakeries' vice president of snack marketing, said he wasn't aware of any Twinkie ingredients made in China. But in a brief e-mail statement, he indicated that Interstate was polling some of its smaller vendors to determine whether they obtained any products from China.

    "This process involves gathering and verifying information from hundreds of companies," Leavitt said.

    That process could eventually lead to a company such as Ningbo Wanglong Group, the world's largest maker of sorbic acid — a preservative made from natural gas that helps keep mold off baked goods and other products. The 14-year-old private company, located about 120 miles south of Shanghai, produces 1,000 tons of the white crystals every month. About one-third of that is exported to the U.S., said Li Ming, the company's office director.

    Less than a decade ago, such food additives were made mainly in Europe and the United States. But China's looser environmental regulations, cheaper energy costs and lower wages helped shift the industry to Asia. Ningbo Wanglong's average salary is less than $200 a month. Giant food chemical makers such as BASF of Germany and Dutch-based DSM have teamed up with Chinese partners and cut back at plants in the West.

    Ningbo Wanglong says it sells sorbic acid for about $1.30 a pound, including shipping charges to the U.S. The cost of the same product made in the United States: about $4.

    For food companies, switching to non-Chinese vendors would almost certainly increase their costs, though the move could give them a marketing advantage over rivals.

    Li welcomed visitors to tour his company's 80-acre campus, where he said 400 employees, many of them wearing white gloves and gray uniforms, work in 20 high-tech facilities.

    "We have an analysis room, a quality lab and other quality control departments," he said, adding that 70 workers have advanced degrees.

    But for every additive maker such as Ningbo Wanglong, scores of small operations compete in China, offering their cut-rate goods in food industry journals, at trade fairs and on the Internet. On the Chinese e-commerce site Alibaba.com, at least 43 businesses claimed to produce sorbic acid, a complicated compound that requires considerable investment and government certifications.

    For many other ingredients, though, people don't need much more than basic knowledge of chemistry and some simple equipment: a kettle, a scale and a dryer.

    "The problem is that many small companies don't register their products as food additives, thus avoiding supervision," said He Jiguo, director of the food nutrition and safety department at China Agricultural University in Beijing. Instead, he said, these companies classify their goods as nonfood items. Many food additives also have industrial applications; citric acid, for example, is used to clean boilers and etch concrete floors.

    He says Chinese government officials should boost enforcement and penalties. Currently, violators of food-safety rules are subject to fines of no more than a few thousand dollars and a temporary stop order.

    But He doesn't expect any swift changes. Of the 1,750 government-approved food additives, quality standards have been established for only about 250, according to a report last year by Major China, a food-industry consulting firm in Shanghai.

    "There is no clear food-classification system, no distinct definition for the range that the food includes, no related regulation about residues that additives leave on foods," the report said. "All these bring loopholes for additives manufacturing and usage, give illegal traders opportunities and affects customers' trust toward food additive safety."

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    U.S. inspection spotty

    Adding to U.S. consumers' concerns, inspection on the American end is spotty. The Food and Drug Administration has said it checks just 1% of all imported grocery items and food ingredients, excluding meat and poultry products. The agency didn't respond to interview requests for this article.

    U.S. food ingredient suppliers can only hope that the pet-food scare blows over. Some managers say they are getting 50 calls a day from customers and consumers. They are struggling to reassure them that the goods from China are safe, promising more tests and tighter monitoring of vendors. But they also say that American food manufacturers will have little choice but to back away from demands to go without any Chinese additives.

    "They're going to have to compromise," said a sales manager at a major food additive supplier who did not want to be identified by name. "At this point, it's simply impossible."

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    don.lee@latimes.com

    Cao Jun in the Times' Shanghai bureau contributed to this report.

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    (INFOBOX BELOW)

    From China to you

    China has become the world's leading supplier of food ingredients, including flavorings, vitamins and preservatives. A look at some of the most common food additives imported into the United States from China:

    Citric acid

    Gives foods a tart taste and enhances fruit flavors

    Used in: Soda, fruit-flavored beverages, candy, flavored syrups

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    Sorbic acid

    A preservative that inhibits the growth of mold and yeasts

    Used in: Cheese and other dairy products, baked goods, wine

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    Vanillin

    An ingredient, often made from wood pulp, in artificial vanilla

    Used in: Chocolates, candies, cookies

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    Xylitol

    A natural sweetener found in birch trees, strawberries, raspberries and plums

    Used in: Sugar-free gum, candy

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    Folic acid

    A B vitamin that helps prevent fetal spinal deformities

    Used in: Pasta, bread, cereal, flour, corn meal, rice

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    Sources: WISER, Census Bureau. Graphics reporting by Scott Wilson

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited May 2007
    BBS- I'm hoping we'll start seeing companies showing that China is not the origin.

    As time goes on I would expect they would realize the advertising and confidence value of being able to state that.

    I guess right now its a matter of scouring labels for additives and clues.
  • BlindedByScience
    BlindedByScience Member Posts: 314
    edited May 2007
    I just checked with NewChapter and they told me their Host Defense (mushroom supplement for immune stimulation) is made entirely from mushrooms grown in the US. They also offer organic supplements if anyone is interested:

    www.newchapter.com

    NewChapter is also known as NewMark. The NewMark brand is only available to doctors and licensed healthcare pros for resale but is the exact same stuff under the NewChapter label. If you have a bottle of each (as I do) you can compare the ingredients and claims. Plus, the rep told me the same thing . iHerb.com is one place that sells their stuff.
  • JoanofArdmore
    JoanofArdmore Member Posts: 1,012
    edited May 2007
    I take New Chapter's Zyflamend.I know they are very fine.Sadly I cant afford to use all their products- I take so MANY suppliments.
    And most of them are cheap-Doctor's Best, or Now.(I just bought Doctor's Best Cordiceps.It's MUCH cheaper than NC 's cordy.But I'm so sure it's made in China.)I'm hoping the TCM isnt poluted.All I can do.
    Susie, this is a great idea.Sorry I've nothing to add, but I'll be watching(for when my ship comes in.)
  • JoanofArdmore
    JoanofArdmore Member Posts: 1,012
    edited May 2007
    Yes I can add some things!
    Twinlab's Norwegian Cod Liver Oil.
    Spectrum Fish oil (from wild-caught small fish)(product of Norway or Iceland)
    French Paradox, Reservatrol and marc, made in France.
    Raw Energy Extreme, (bee royal jelly and pollen) Made in Utah!
    So these are some of my sups that ARENT Doctor's Best or NOW.(Which I actually havent inspected yet for Chineseness.I may be completely wrong!)
  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited May 2007
    Joan-
    What is raw energy extreme. What do you use it for? Does it work? Sounds very interesting. I used to use suck on raw honey come from the health food store many, many years ago,
    but I haven't a clue what I used it for.

    Oh by the way check the back of your toothpastes. I hear some of the Colgates are from China. They will say on the
    back of the tube.
  • JoanofArdmore
    JoanofArdmore Member Posts: 1,012
    edited May 2007
    "What is raw energy extreme. What do you use it for? Does it work? "

    It's an energy product, msade of bee's products.When I learned Panax Ginsing isnt quite the thing, I switched to new energy products--this, and Cordiceps mushrooms, which I used to support me through chemo, as suggested by Dr Weil.
    The new proticol is supporting me through this MOVE very well, so, yeah, it works!Plus when you open the bottle, the smell is AWESOME:Flowers and honey!
    Whole Foods.

    PS:Checked my Doctor's Best vitamin C---made in Indiana
    No wonder I'm still alive, with all I take.

    My dentist recommends Colgate-it has the most flouride.But lately I've been using Tom's of Maine.Thanks.Will check my stockpiled Colgate tube!
  • rrs
    rrs Member Posts: 614
    edited June 2007

    In reading the article in the New York Times about counterfit chemicals made in China - they are exported to other countries - like India where some of the supplements are made. I'm going to try to buy American or do without.

  • figsgirls
    figsgirls Member Posts: 253
    edited June 2007
    The supplements we buy at GNC all say "made in the USA".
    - Esther C
    -Glucosamine Chondroitin
    -Potassium Gluconate
    -Magnesium
  • Blundin2005
    Blundin2005 Member Posts: 1,167
    edited June 2007
    My doctor yesterday told me to stop taking suppliments....except glucosamine...but to watch the diet....loose weight....ride my bike in an upright position (disk problems) and swim in the lake and the sea.

    va bene!
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited June 2007

    That's a relief to know GNC is saying made in the USA. I was just reading Mercola yesterday and he said 90% of our vitamins come from China. That gave me a scare.

  • CaliforniaKate
    CaliforniaKate Member Posts: 258
    edited June 2007

    Hi, my GNC Glucosamine/Chondroitin doesn't say made in America,it says distributed by Pittsburg, Pa. Doesn't exactly mean that mine was made here, only distributed here. My vitamin D from GNC also says the same. Where did you see the made in America on your bottle. Kate

  • Calico
    Calico Member Posts: 1,108
    edited June 2007
    Mine say either manufactured by ... in FL or CA etc....except Oscal Calcium which is made by GlaxoSmithKline in Norway.......

    Interesting thread, I will follow,

    Thanks.

    God Bless
  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited June 2007
    Quote:

    The supplements we buy at GNC all say "made in the USA".
    - Esther C
    -Glucosamine Chondroitin
    -Potassium Gluconate
    -Magnesium



    Figsgirls ---if you get the GNC Ester C chewies they are no longer ester C ----They changed the formulaton they are just Vit C chewies now and they are awful----used to get them all the time----I literally had to throw the whole very large container away and boy was it filled with additives and mostly sucrose, corn syrup, was there palm kernel oil----does it get any worse?
  • Sierra
    Sierra Member Posts: 1,638
    edited June 2007


    I get the majority of my supplements
    from Dr. D'Adamo
    and will be checking this
    out in future



  • Not_Me
    Not_Me Member Posts: 180
    edited June 2007

    Great topic...I checked my bee pollen and honey and both are USA made. I don't know about my supplements...but will be checking ths out.

  • joanne_elizabeth
    joanne_elizabeth Member Posts: 499
    edited July 2007

    Keep repeating, globalization is good for Americans.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2007

    My doctor said I shouldn't be taking melatonin, he was very concerned because melatonin comes from China and said to be very leery of any supplements that are coming out of China.

  • CalGal
    CalGal Member Posts: 469
    edited July 2007
    I'm particularly concerned that "made in USA" does NOT mean that all of the ingredients used to make the supplement came from the USA! It looks like it's really difficult to find out where the food or supplement ingredients came from ...

    CalGal
  • joanne_elizabeth
    joanne_elizabeth Member Posts: 499
    edited July 2007

    This is awful. Wht is the matter with this country that they won't tell us what the heck we are ingesting? I guess they know big business might lose money cause who would buy foods/vitamins from China and India? Certainly not me.

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