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  • LisaSDCA
    LisaSDCA Member Posts: 2,230
    edited May 2007
    Nancy, I am praying that your doctor has good answers for you and that the lit-up node turns out to have only been scar tissue - and that's what you felt last night. Be sure to let us know! Also will be interested to hear what he says about your hand swelling.
    Sybil - glad your birding trip went off so well. We need to keep doing the things that are meaningful in our lives, even in the middle of treatment.
    Terri (playwriter) - I think there are a variety of nail responses - when taking the taxanes, especially. All ten of my nails broke down really short about the time of my second infusion - and continue to break and split to stay that short. If I look closely, I can see three faint, white, evenly-spaced horizontal lines on about half my nails. Maybe from the hit the cells in the nailbed take from each infusion?
    Jacque - I'm glad your sore throat responded so quickly to the antibiotics - once the onc. gave 'em to you! Have I mentioned I love your new avatar?
    Marsha - hope your mouth sore disappears so you can enjoy the last two days of your 'good week'. Meet you at the bar tomorrow!
    Patti - I get sinus irritation from Cytoxan each round - and I have never been one to have allergies, etc. But for about 4 days after each infusion I sneeze like a wild woman. And the runny nose in the mornings seems to persist continually.
    Max - whew! Glad you son's appendectomy is over. What a day that must have been for you! Is he getting back to normal now? Thanks for the info about Kaiser and Johns Hopkins. Here, I go for treatment at the main San Diego Kaiser hospital center, but I believe that such esoteric needs as hyberbaric oxygen chambers for wound healing are still referred out - to UCSD. I'll have to see if I can use that in my attempts to go "out" for my DIEP.

    I saw my onc. for my pre-tx#4 visit. The first time I didn't gain weight! I even lost a pound. Now if the other 8 would disappear, I'd be jazzed! Anyway - we talked about the timing for my ongoing treatment - He feels I need to wait at least six weeks after chemo before my surgery. He re-affirmed that I won't be having rads, so at least I won't have those six weeks to wait on top of it. I did have Grade 3 tumors, but he says since I had clear nodes and am having a bilat. mastectomy that rads are in no way indicated. I'm relieved because I don't really want to be irradiated if I can avoid it, and it should make my reconstruction a little easier if I have strong skin in the area. I also asked if he does a MUGA scan after treatment is finished and he said no, not unless a patient is having symptoms.

    Going in shortly for my port flush and pre-chemo labs. Better go put some emla cream on so it can get working.

    All the best to my March Chemosabe Sisters. We are going to make it!
    Lisa
  • Cynthia1962
    Cynthia1962 Member Posts: 1,424
    edited May 2007
    Concerning nails, a few of the women on the youngsurvival.org board were told by their chemo nurses to use tea tree oil on their nails to protect them during taxol/taxotere tx. Use a q-tip dipped in it to swab each nail once a day. I'm going to give it a try since I always have tt oil in the house anyway.

    Cynthia
  • GrammyNancy
    GrammyNancy Member Posts: 666
    edited May 2007
    Jacque, MissShapen, Playwriter, Keenie and LisaSDCA, thank you for your prayers and I think they worked. The PET scan showed NOTHING and the onc felt pretty sure that it is scar tissue but suggested that I see my surgeon for my peace of mind. I called the surgeon's office, of course he's out of town, they wanted to schedule me for June 11...I begged and they put in for the May 24 at the end of the day. My onc is a no nonsense kind of guy so I really feel comfortable that it is scar tissue. As far as the swelling goes it is lymph fluid...elevate arm as much as possible, do the massage up the arm (it is minor swelling only to the wrist)and if it gets any worse they will send me to PT.

    4th tx over (2/3's done) feeling okay. I will catch up on post tomorrow. Hope everyone is feeling well or feeling better. Hugs to those visiting the bar tomorrow.

    I don't know what I would do without you wonderful ladies.
    Nancy
  • rosebud1962
    rosebud1962 Member Posts: 196
    edited May 2007

    Nancy..I just read what you went through..oh my..I am so glad it wasn't anything else! I do know that feeling but mine turned out differently..16 out of 30 nodes but hey..water under the bridge and on to the next. WBC great today so I am on for next Tuesday round #4 but this time it's Taxotere. Hugs all around..rosebud

  • dmknanny
    dmknanny Member Posts: 60
    edited May 2007
    Nancy
    So glad you got good results concerning the PET. Mine had some false positives too pre-surgery - one of the down sides of that test.
    Just had TX #5 (1st of 4 Taxol) today -sorry I forgot to sign up for a bar reservation - LONG day and I am very tired. Spoke to a high school classmate who was in for taxol & herceptin today - she could not get taxol today because she's having such neuralgia in her hands and feet. She mentioned that she thinks her fingernails are getting ready to fall off. I know my hands and feet have gotten really dry from the AC, and will probably suffer with the Taxol.
    Wanted to share this with all my cruise sisters...will share details of DH's b-day party when I am feelin up to writing more - prayers are with you all
    Words to live by NOW

    IF I HAD MY LIFE TO LIVE OVER - by Erma Bombeck
    (written after she found out she was dying from cancer).

    I would have gone to bed when I was sick instead of pretending the earth would go into a holding pattern if I weren't there for the day.
    I would have burned the pink candle sculpted like a rose before it melted in storage.
    I would have talked less and listened more.
    I would have invited friends over to dinner even if the carpet was stained, or the sofa faded.
    I would have eaten the popcorn in the 'good' living room and worried much less about the dirt when someone wanted to light a fire in the fireplace.
    I would have taken the time to listen to my grandfather ramble about his youth.
    I would have shared more of the responsibility carried by my husband.
    I would never have insisted the car windows be rolled up on a summer day because my hair had just been teased and sprayed.
    I would have sat on the lawn with my new clothes and not worried about grass stains.
    I would have cried and laughed less while watching television and more while watching life.
    I would never have bought anything just because it was practical, wouldn't show soil, or was guaranteed to last a lifetime.
    Instead of wishing away nine months of pregnancy, I'd have cherished every moment and realized that the wonderment growing inside me was the only chance in life to assist God in a miracle.
    When my kids kissed me impetuously, I would never have said, "Later. Now go get washed up for dinner."
    There would have been more "I love you's." More "I'm sorry's."
    But mostly, given another shot at life, I would seize every minute...look at it and really see it live it and never give it back.
    Stop sweating the small stuff.
    Don't worry about who doesn't like you, who has more, or who's doing what.
    Instead, let's cherish the relationships we have with those who do love us.
    Let's think about what we are doing each day to promote ourselves mentally, physically, emotionally.
  • taurie
    taurie Member Posts: 84
    edited May 2007
    Nanny, thanks for posting that, it made me cry, guess it hit home.

    Nancy, OMG what a scare, sorry you went through it and hopefully your onc is right and everything is ok.

    Terri, Hope they dont fall out, my has been breaking terribly. Feet are peeling bad too.

    Put me down for the bar next wed 23rd for #3.

    Talked to the oncology nurse today, she chewed me out for now coming in when I had the big D. She said we are so suseptable to stuff right now anything can be life threatening. If the big D happens and imodium does not do anything, after 24 hours, to definately come in. Said the hemroids and bleeding could have been a big thing too. I said I thought it was normal didnt want to whine, she said OMG if you heard some of the patients, your far from whining. She also said she has heard the complaints from quite a few of the weepy, then switching to the biting the head off your family stage. She is going to talk to the dr about something for that and for going to sleep at night, I told her Ativan keeps me sleeping but does not put me there. This time they scheduled my next appointment for day 7 after chemo since I told her i get bad about day 4 and better around day 9, this way they see whats happening in the middle. Her words were, Hon, I know this is a major rollercoaster ride, and you just want to get off. I said off? I wanna leave the park and go home.
    Prayers to everyone
    Dawn
  • marshabel
    marshabel Member Posts: 142
    edited May 2007
    Nancy - great news! I'm glad that you are able to put that questionable node out of your mind so that you can concentrate on finishing your treatment. 2/3's down - you're almost there!

    Dmknanny - loved the words from Erma Bombeck.....That's exactly how I feel, and want to start living that way NOW.

    Terri - I hope you are able to hang on to those nails. I have also heard something about the benefits of tea tree oil, so it's probably worth a try.

    I'm scheduled for chemo tomorrow, but my mouth ulcer has really gotten nasty, so I wonder if they will delay treatment because of it. Has that happened to anyone? I called the onc's office today, talked to a new nurse who said she would talk to the doctor, but then she never called back. I HATE THAT!!! My appt tomorrow isn't until 1:00, so maybe she will call in the morning.

    Angel and Lisa - see you at the bar tomorrow

    Marshabel
  • Keenie
    Keenie Member Posts: 258
    edited May 2007
    Hi Nancy,
    I love it when we get those prayers answered so quickly! What a blessing to know the Lord is over all.

    I am feeling so badly for all you ladies with nail issues. I can't imagine your poor, sore hands and feet.

    Christine
  • Cynthia1962
    Cynthia1962 Member Posts: 1,424
    edited May 2007
    Nancy - so relieved that you got good results. How wonderful. I'm so happy for you.

    Dawn - I'm like you, I don't tell my onc everything I'm experiencing, either. I hope they're able to help you with some of your more awful se's.

    My husband and I attended a talk tonight for cancer patients on nutrition and exercise sponsored by a local hospital. I learned that the reason I'm getting bonier but not losing weight is probably because I'm not eating enough calories and my body is using the protein I eat for fuel, instead of maintaining muscle mass with it. I'm just not interested in eating. I have no appetite and what I do eat tastes flat. Plus, my gums are sore so I'm only eating soft foods. I'm even having trouble drinking plain water without gagging.

    Sorry to hear about the awful se's some of you are having. I only have one more AC to go, but i can't think about it without crying. I sure hope I handle the Taxotere better.

    Warm wishes and positive thoughts to all my fellow cruisers having cocktails this week.

    Cynthia
  • playwriter
    playwriter Member Posts: 316
    edited May 2007
    cynthia -- the only thing to drink for me that taste ok is gatorade rain -- u may want to try it. water tasts yuk to me too. i tried a crunch wrap supreme today at taco bell, and it tasted flat. surely not the fault of taco bell, since they are haute cuisine...:)
    i liked the erma bombeck thing -- so true, a nice reminder to focus on what's important.
    love and blessings to u all.
  • GrammyNancy
    GrammyNancy Member Posts: 666
    edited May 2007
    Good Morning Ladies,

    Once again thank you for all your prayers and thoughts for my bump in the road. Although I'm feeling pretty confident that it is just scar tissue, I'm really looking forward to my sugeon visit next week.

    dmknanny, Hope you are feeling better, take care of yourself. Looking forward to details of your party. Thanks so much for sharing Erma's poem...oh so true!

    Rosebud...Yippee on the WBC.

    Taurie...Sounds like you have a wonderful onc nurse (no leaving the park).

    Marshabel...so sorry to hear about that nasty mouth sore...have you tried the Magic Mouthwash? I'd call the onc office this morning again if you haven't heard anything.

    Cynthia...maybe if you try to eat a bunch of small meals that will help. You can add a slice of lemon to your water or cut lemonade, grape juice or gatorade half and half with water. This seems to help me. As far as the Taxotere treatment, you might want to check out the Feb thread as I see many of the cruisers there are on that treatment and they all seem to be having a easier time with the T that the AC.

    Prayers to Angel, Lisa and Marshabel for your bar trip today.

    Nancy
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2007
    Hello Fellow Cruisers,

    My son has gone back to California, so I have to get used to him being gone again. It was great having him here, but would have been better with the rest of the fam IE the BABY! *sigh* I need a chubby little baby hug and a few giggles. Oh well, it was good having 'our' little family back together. I raised the kids by myself from the time they were very small, so we're close. It was a nice Mother's Day present.

    Nancy, I'm glad things are looking up for you, but I totally understand being anxious for the BS to add an extra seal of approval.

    I have heard that weird things happen to your fingernails and toenails from Taxol. I have to get some of that tea tree oil to rub on mine (thanks Cynthia) since I start on Taxol tomorrow. Of course, the hand and foot thing is much more common on Taxol, too. I had that one episode of that and I'm hoping to ward it off with the Glutamine. BTW, I get mine at Walmart for $9.99.

    Lisa, let's hear it for losing a pound! I need to lose weight, but haven't lost very much yet. I'm glad you don't have to get rads.... I would love to skip that part, but I will do all they told me. Good luck with the DIEP. I am still going round and round trying to get a PET scan covered that I got in March. Next time they send me for one, I think I'm going to refuse to get it. This has turned into about 18 phone calls already. LOL

    Diana, loved the Erma Bombeck quote.... She was such a wonderful writer. I always enjoyed her. It's nice to be reminded of the things we need to be paying attention to, as well.

    Dawn, I'm glad the nurses are encouraging you to let them know what is happening more. I know the onc nurses here always call back and try to jump right on any bad SE happening after txments. So definitely keep them apprised!

    Terri, we love the gaterade rain, too! So light! It just has a mild flavor. Sometimes I love water and can't stand to drink anything that has any flavor at all in it. Other times I can't drink water and drink only flavored things. Go figure.

    Jann, You're not a wimp! I bet every single one of us here gets weepy and cries sometimes! I hope you're feeling better.

    Jacque, I hope you're feeling better and your throat and sinuses are not ganging up on you again.

    Max, how are things going with you?

    My thoughts are with all those at the bar. Save me a seat, I'll be there first thing in the morning. I have to take the stupid Decadron the night before (tonight) and the morning of this time. NOT looking forward to that at all!

    Sybil, How are you doing on taxol and Herceptin? Inquiring minds want to know!

    Love to all!!!

    Miss S
  • LisaSDCA
    LisaSDCA Member Posts: 2,230
    edited May 2007
    Just a quick flyby to say I am home from a nearly six hour treatment #4. Bless her heart, I had told my driver we could probably expect FOUR.
    I feel more hit by a truck than with the other infusions, and I've got marked tinnitus (ears are ringing) which I am ready to lose anytime now! Yeesh! And no, I wan't cranking my iPod at all! We watched Helen Mirrin's awesome performance in The Queen on DVD.
    Gotta go try to find something appetizing.
    Hugs all around!
    Lisa
  • maxgirl
    maxgirl Member Posts: 407
    edited May 2007
    My son finally got out of the hospital yesterday after going 24 hours without a fever. He'll have a 3-4 week recovery because the appendix was perforated (not ruptured) and had built up a lot of tissue around it. Nasty stuff!

    Lisa -- Thanks for the good thoughts for my son, and I hope your tinnitus clears up -- that can drive you crazy!

    Nancy -- I'm so sorry you've had to go through such a scary time. Wonderful that the PET scan looked good, but I know you'll breathe easier once you hear from the surgeon.

    Marshabel, Cynthia -- My fellow mouth sufferers! Since Taxol #1, my mouth has gone from mostly metallic tasting to suddenly tasting grossly salty. I've had a cold sore right at the crack of my mouth for about 3 weeks now, but it's finally down to a tiny size. Dare I say it? I think there's been some improvement overall. I can now eat crusts of bread without them scratching the top of my mouth and my throat. Though most things taste flat, some flavors come through now and then. I still have to avoid acidic foods -- nothing with tomato, no oranges, lemons or limes -- or my mouth fries. My tongue still burns from time to time.

    Diana -- Thanks for posting the Erma Bombeck piece. She was a wise and funny lady.

    MissS -- Glad you had a nice visit with your son even though he came sans kidlet.

    What I thought was neuropathy in my left hand seems to have been the hand-foot syndrome. I had skin peeling off my fingers for over a week. Yech! The bottoms of my feet are burning slightly again.

    Stupid Decadron! I woke up at 3 am to go to the bathroom and couldn't fall back to sleep.

    See you at the bar today along with Jill. I'll be the one nodding off.
  • Angelflight
    Angelflight Member Posts: 163
    edited May 2007
    Well I survived TAC #4 today. Only 2 left to go. I will be so darn happy when this is all over with! Thank God I don't have to do rads.

    Weird thing happened today though. I noticed when I came home all I do is smell like chemo. It's like my body is reaking from one of the drugs. I've been in the shower 3 times already and it's driving me nuts. I remember someone mentioning a while back that happened to them as well. Also can't sleep as usual, here it is 4:25am and I'm still wide awake as usual; but that's par for the course. I only average about 2 hours every 2-3 days. Yea I know I've been given everything mentioned here for that to no avail.

    My son and dil and the 5 grand kids were here for Mothers Day and we had a ball. I love seeing them all and just wish we could get together more often. It's the first time I've seen my son since my dx in late Dec. He didn't seem to take it too well. I could just get that vibe from him. I think he's more worried than I am. You know how they look at you with that look of "you're on your last leg".....lol It kind of made me wonder just how bad I did look.......hehe

    Some of you mentioned your skin peeling on your hands and feet. Don't forget to use your Cytaphil lotion after your bath each day. It will keep the skin on your hands and feet from breaking down and it will help if it's already started.

    Those with mouth sores or mouth problems, don't forget to brush your teeth each day with Biotene toothpaste and use Biotene mouthwash. If you have problems already it will help and try to pick up some of the Magic Mouthwash, although I havn't been able to find out who has it.

    I'll be busy around here starting tomorrow. Going to do some major cleaning when I get back from my Neulasta shot. My daughter will be arriving from Wyoming on Saturday and then the SIL'S will be here a few days after. I won't be online much from here until after the end of the month. Don't worry that I'm not around and I'm sick or anything. If I do have problems you gals will be the first I come to for help and support. Have a great Memorial Weekend coming up next week for all. Hope you get to eat lots of good food and enjoy your friends and families.

    Wishing everyone going to the bar good things with no se's and praying for those with sick families and for ourselves.

    Love,
    Angel
  • pmarsh34
    pmarsh34 Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2007
    Good Morning all. I can't do shout outs to everyone but I am praying for all of you and your different (and similar!) stuff going on.
    I went to the radiation oncologist for the first time yesterday. I went in wondering if I really needed or wanted rads. I really like him and he actually read my path report before he came in to see me! (Usually they come in, sit down, and read it for the first time while they are in the exam room with me!) He said that any one thing on my path report might not indicate rads but he also said when you look at the big picture, there was no question that I needed rads. I have the appt to get set up the middle of July (as soon as chemo is finished!). I am not looking forward to it but I am okay with it now.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2007
    Lisa, you seem to get zapped with the never-ending infusions! Glad you finally made it home. I plan to be cranking my iPod this morning!

    Max, is hand - mouth syndrome different from Neuropathy? I thought it was the same thing. My hands and feet only peel in the areas that were affected by the pain and swelling I had a week or two ago... like some delayed reaction.

    I slept pretty well after my first dosage of 5 decadron pills last night, however, I did wake up from 4am - 6am. Now I have to take 5 more before I go-go.

    Good to hear from you, Angel! Sounds like a happy mothers day for you. I know what you mean about your son feeling kinda weird about the whole thing... mine did, too.

    The magic mouthwash is actually an RX from your doctor. I would definitely request one if I was having so many mouth issue I couldn't eat. I am getting my first taxol in a few minutes, so I will find out shortly how it will effect me.

    Patti, Glad you had a nice visit with the rads onc and he was interested and answered your questions sufficiently. I need to call mine soon, so I don't end up with a big gap between chemo and rads.

    Love and good wishes to all!

    Miss S
  • GrammyNancy
    GrammyNancy Member Posts: 666
    edited May 2007
    Good Morning Ladies,

    Lisa, so sorry that you stepped in the path of that big ole truck and that your ears are ringing. Prayers that this all quickly passes.

    Maxgirl..good news that your son is out of the hospital..3 to 4 weeks recovery...yikes... Happy to hear your mouth is feeling better..prayers for continued improvement. sorry about your hands and feet...hope you can find some relief, I second Angel's suggestion to use lots of lotion.

    Angel..CONGRATULATIOS on 2/3's done!!! I've felt like I could smell the chemo since the beginning...don't have any ideas how to make the smell go away. Know you enjoyed your visit from your son and DIL and 5 grandkids...bet it was a little noisey around your house. Be sure you don't overdo getting ready for your visitors...remember they are coming to see you not your house and you want all your energy to enjoy them.

    Pmarsh...so happy that you like your rad onc...sorry you were hoping to skip this step but remember we need to do everything to fight this beast first time around.

    Prayers to all visiting the bar today...Maxgirl, Jillrush, MissShapen, Sybilvox.

    Nancy
  • jacqniel
    jacqniel Member Posts: 720
    edited May 2007
    Good morning! Hope this finds everyone enjoying the cruise and not experiencing too many SEs!

    Max, Have you heard about bagbalm and or udder cream? Other people on different threads have posted about using it with gloves and socks to help keep their symptoms at bay. You need the smelly kind, not the toned down version.
    Thinking of you today as you take your tx.

    Miss S - Good luck with your tx today!
    Neuropathy is when you have numbness, pain and tingling in your hands and feet. I think Hand and Foot syndrome is when your skin peels and can cause painful sores. One thing to watch for with that is infection. I have a friend that had this and had to go on antibiotics.

    Pmarsh - Hang in there, girl. The rads are a pain and inconvenience, but have the potential to keep that beasty at bay. You will do great!

    Angel - I notice the smell, too. The good news is, once you are all done with this the smell will go away and you won't have the constant reminder of what you had to go through.
    Also, the magic mouthwash is a prescription, so you need to get it from your onc.
    Enjoy your family this weekend!

    Nancy, so glad you got good news! Keep us informed about the biopsy!

    Jill and Sybil - hope all goes well with your tx today!

    To everyone else - consider yourself hugged!

    I am going to help in my old classroom (I went on long term disability in January because of complications with my cancer)this afternoon to help set up for my senior student's open house, which is tomorrow. My co-teacher asked me to volunteer some time as she will be out of the building and the substitute teachers wouldn't have a clue what to do to get ready. It will be fun seeing my students and coworkers as well as getting to pretend I still work there!

    My next tx is Monday. I was taken off my heart rhythm meds last week, so am curious how my heart will react to this next tx. Two times ago it went crazy and the last time I had no problems. I would appreciate prayers for it to behave again this time!

    Take care, Jacque
  • GrammyNancy
    GrammyNancy Member Posts: 666
    edited May 2007
    Jacque...know you will have fun seeing your students and coworkers. Sending lots of prayers your way your heart to behave.

    Nancy
  • 3boys4me
    3boys4me Member Posts: 319
    edited May 2007
    Hi Fellow Cruisers-
    This cruise needs to pull into port one of these day, I'm getting a little seasick!

    Loved the Erma Bombeck piece. Our family just started my mom with hospice - she's been in a decline since the beginning of the year (just about the time I received my diagnosis of BC) with Parkinson's. To say the least it's been a tough 5 months. Anyways, I was asking God what was up and I think he told me I needed to slow down. Pay more attention to myself, my family, my friends, and everyone else around me. I'm listening. I think my life will be different when all is said and done.

    Sorry to hear of everyone's SE's - it's the pits. I'm a week out from my last IV, but still on the oral. The doctor cut down the the dosage on both the Taxotere and the Xeloda this go round. I was down for the weekend which I think is caused by coming off the Decadron mixed with the Taxotere IV. But with the reduced Xeloda, I actually feel pretty good this week.

    Hugs to all,
    Lisa
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2007
    Oh my goodness.... Lisa, I totally beat your record today. My appointment was for 9:15 AM. I saw the onc for the usual 10 minutes or so, she informed me that the Taxol would take 3 hours to drip and the Herceptin would take 2 hours. Wow. Well, if that wasn't bad enough, it takes yet another hour to get the pre-chemo drugs. It was after 5 PM when I was walking out of the building! I was there 8 hours!

    It should go a little faster next time, because I got a double dose of Herceptin to get started. At least I only have 3 more treatments. It finally feels like I might actually get though this. Unfortunately (fortunately, actually) I have to do a year of Herceptin, so I won't really be finished for a long time.

    Since my port is on my mastectomy side, I have a feeling I won't be able to get reconstruction until after that is removed. I'm not sure.

    Jacque, thanks for the explanation on hand/foot vs Neuropathy. I seem to peel only in the places I have had Neuropathy issues (at least the onc said it was Neuropathy, but I think she is guessing). I have not had any sores on my hands or feet that were visible. My feet felt like they had sores or blisters on them, though. I'm going to keep up with the Glutamine and try to ward it off now!

    So glad you get to spend some time at work. That will be a real boost to you, I know! I need to drop by my compnay and say hi. Something always seems to stop me.

    Thinking of you all and praying for wonderful blessings,

    Miss S
  • taurie
    taurie Member Posts: 84
    edited May 2007
    Ok, remember that rollercoaster they put on the main deck? Guess I must love the ride cause I am back on it. Today while just sitting there my hand swelled up like a balloon, then the arm started, cant see my knuckles now at all, no wrinkles even where they are. Since its after hours I didnt know whether to go to the ER or call the onc. I called the onc, and it just happened to be mine on call. He told me to try to find someone with lasix, and take 40 mg and elevate my arm and he would set up a test for tomorrow. He wants to check to see if it is a blood clot but says he thinks its lymphedema. I couldnt find anyone with lasix so I went to the pharmacy and bought an over the counter water pill. Hope that will suffice.
    Also now he is giving me Temazepam to try to sleep.
    Hmmmm I think I am done with amusement rides after this, the excitement is too much, makes you nausious, and the price is ridicuous. LOL
    Dawn
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2007
    Dawn,
    I can't believe your onc told you to try to find someone with lasix instead of calling you in a script! What kind of doctoring is that?

    It does sound like either a blood clot or lymphedema. When my doc thought I had a blood clot, she told me to take aspirin overnight while I waited to be tested the next day. The only reason she was willing to wait a day was because she was pretty sure it wasn't a clot.

    I will definitely be praying for you. Do take it easy and keep it elevated.

    Miss S
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2007
    Hi Girls!

    Omigosh! The Erma Bombeck words are beautiful. I'm wondering if I could borrow them for another thread...?

    Also...WOW...what a fellowship here...that's what this place is all about for sure.

    Hugs
    Peggy
  • Cynthia1962
    Cynthia1962 Member Posts: 1,424
    edited May 2007
    Oh, Dawn, so sorry to hear you're back on the rollercoaster.

    Nanny - Thanks for the Erma Bombeck poem. She was an amazing woman. She had the same disease my mother has - polycystic kidney disease. Before my dx, I worried that I could have inherited it from my mom (50%) chance, but my scans for bc showed my kidneys looked good. I'm still amazed by that. I had a one in two chance of having PKD, and no family history or obvious risk factors of bc, and I get bc. How wacked is that? So much for statistics.

    My glutamine arrived today. Plan to start taking it soon. Is anyone taking B6? I also drank my first Boost Plus today. Interesting... But, it was 360 calories so yippee. I might actually get enough calories today. I get full so fast now. I'm guessing my stomach has shrunk a bit.

    Max - glad your son is out of the hospital and recovering.

    3boys4me - sorry about your mom. Life sure can be overwhelming at times.

    Angel - I experience the chemo smell for the first few days or so after tx. It wasn't until this last tx that I figured out that's what it was. I only smell it from the arm pit on the cancer side, so I just thought I needed to shower. Then, it finally dawned on me that the smell doesn't go away after a shower. lol

    I want to do more of a shout out but I'm fading fast. I do read everyones posts, though, and send you all positive and healing thoughts. Good luck to my fellow cruisers this week. I hope we all feel better soon.

    Cynthia
  • Cynthia1962
    Cynthia1962 Member Posts: 1,424
    edited May 2007
    Hi all,

    I woke up with bone pain today. I figured it wouldn't last so I didn't take anything, and not only did it last but it spread. lol So, I finally took a darvocet because it seems to work the best, but I'm wondering if it's normal to still have bone pain a week after the last neupogen shot? It feels just like that pain.

    Thanks for your help. I don't know what I'd do without you ladies.

    Cynthia
  • maxgirl
    maxgirl Member Posts: 407
    edited May 2007
    Thanks, everyone, for good thoughts for my son. He sounds even stronger today.

    I found a little bit of help for metallic tasting water -- about a quarter of a teaspoon of sugar takes the edge off.

    My face was flushed today from the Decadron -- it was nice to have some natural color for a change.

    After 2 Taxol tx, the peach fuzz on my head seems to be getting longer, but the remainder Down Under has disappeared.

    Marshabel: Did you ever get anything for that mouth sore? Magic Mouthwash really helped when I had one , inside of my mouth.

    Cynthia -- The bone pain could be just the build up over time. Are you on Taxol, because that causes bone pain, too?

    MissS: You were right. Saw the onc yesterday, and he said what I had before was typical neuropathy, but the peeling I have is not typical hand-foot syndrome. (They're two different conditions.) Like you, I got the peeling where I had the neuropathy. I do think the glutamine has been helping.

    On the hand-foot syndrome tips -- My onc nurse gave me a list of instructions. You're supposed to keep it moisturized but without massaging. The less contact the better. You're also supposed to avoid contact with heat and cold -- no long showers and baths. Short, tepid showers are best (ewwww!). And gloves are not a good idea, because they hold the heat in. (I was wearing a latex glove on my left hand to protect my fingers from the neuropathy pain while I was working.)

    Patti: It's nice to hear you got a good rad onc. I have to call for my appt, too. I'm really not looking forward to this -- more worries about lymphedema and effects on the heart.

    Angel: Glad you had a good Mother's Day with the family and hope the rest of your month goes smoothly.

    Jacque: Good thoughts for you and your heart rhythms -- I hope they stay nice and even.

    Hope you had a good time being back in the classroom.

    3boys: Sorry to hear about your mother's illness -- I know it takes a toll on the family anyway, and it's so hard to deal with on top of BC. Hugs and strengthening thoughts to you.

    Dawn: I ditto Miss S -- find someone with lasix -- what kind of medical care is that? Did you get someone to pay attention to your arm today?
  • taurie
    taurie Member Posts: 84
    edited May 2007
    Hi all,
    Actually the onc nurse sounds more caring than the doctor. I was told that since its only in my hand and arm, it isnt a blood clot but most likely lympidema. If it gets worse, or there is pain then to call immediatly but since I have my next tx on wed she will come in and check it out.
    Then went to the pharmacy and they tell me ok the zofran price is 1400 bucks, I almost fell over. But after arguing they called the company and the company said oh no we will cover it. Hmm shocker there.
    Anyone have trouble with the eye watering still or the nose running, onc nurse told me if benedryl or claritan didnt work the best thing for it to begin with is sudafed.
    Dawn
  • HollyHopes
    HollyHopes Member Posts: 497
    edited May 2007
    Hi Sisters....had tx# 6 yesterday ( #2 of dose desne Taxol). The tx'sa themselves are never so bad, but my now I know the downward spiral is coming. I swtiched from neulasta( SE ) too heavy for me to handle and am tolerating neupogen a bit better. had to add weekly Procit injection due to low RBC's. New drugs also with he Txol - dexamathasone and cimetidene. Worst part for me in knowing hte 10 days of pain and malaise that will follow the tx with 2 -3 days of feeling great and then starting all over. Hard not to get knocked down the depresssion that accompanies it all - though feel well loved and supported.

    Sucessfully drove the 500 miles to and from LA to PHX for son's high school graduation. Was a true challenge but my driving phobic 23 y/o daughter made it bearable and was a 'pill nzai' to help me stay on top of the meds. Awkward and a bit painful to spend so much time with former husband, new sife and my ex-inlaws, all of who were loving and o so accomdating in their huge mansion with their 5 cars,,,blah, blah...feeling sorry for little old me in my tiny condo in the San Fernando Valley of LA (not a garden spot), with my dear and wonderful long disatance boyfriend of 12 years, but not here day to day guy....

    Ah well...

    Keeping you all in my prayers and glad this chapter is drawing close to an end for most of us....on to radiation for some...

    Sorry to be so self-absorbed...will look for allyour news....

    Holly

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